[Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-tls-rfc4347-bis-04.txt

2010-12-12 Thread Miguel A. Garcia

I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART)
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Please resolve these comments along with any other comments you may receive.

Document: draft-ietf-tls-rfc4347-bis-04.txt
Reviewer: Miguel Garcia miguel.a.gar...@ericsson.com
Review Date: 12-12-2010
IETF LC End Date: 14-12-2010
IESG Telechat date: (if known)

Summary: The document is ready for publication as a standards track RFC.

A well written and clear document. Congratulations to the authors. I have 
a question and a couple of nits.




Question:

- Section 4.1, previous last paragraph on page 8. The sentence requires 
implementations to compute the TCP maximum segment lifetime. If an 
implementation runs DTLS over UDP, how can it compute the TCP maximum 
segment lifetime, which is a parameter for a different protocol? I 
suspect DTLS implementations running over UDP (or even SCTP) will not 
have a clue of what is the TCP maximum segment lifetime.


The sentence I am referring to is:

 In
   order to ensure that any given sequence/epoch pair is unique,
   implementations MUST NOT allow the same epoch value to be reused
   within two times the TCP maximum segment lifetime.






Nits/editorial comments:

- Section 1, 4th paragraph. Missing dot separating sentences:

  This
   document introduces a new version of DTLS, DTLS 1.2, which is defined
   as a series of deltas to TLS 1.2 [TLS12] There is no DTLS 1.1.
 

- Section 3, bullet point 1, I don't understand what IV means in this 
sentence:


   [Note that prior to TLS 1.1, there was no explicit IV
  and so decryption would also fail.]

- Expand acronyms at first usage. This includes MSL, PMTU, MAC

- An informative reference to RC4 is needed in Section 4.1.2.2, 2nd 
paragraph.


- At least in my copy, there is a strange formatting in the first 
paragraph of Section 4.1.2.7, including many white spaces in every line.


- There is a repeated paragraph within the same section 4.2.4. I think 
this might be a mistake. The paragraph appears both under Figure 2 (on 
page 20) and then towards the end of page 22. This is the paragraph:


 Because DTLS clients send the first message
   (ClientHello), they start in the PREPARING state.  DTLS servers start
   in the WAITING state, but with empty buffers and no retransmit timer.



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Re: [Gen-art] Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-not-03

2010-12-12 Thread Roni Even
Hi,
I also reviewed this draft (looks like both of us got to do the Gen-ART
review).
I agree with Richards editorial comment.
Thanks
Roni Even

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 I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on
 Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at
 http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq.
 
 Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments
 you may receive.
 
 Document: draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-not-03
 Reviewer: Richard Barnes
 Review Date: 11 Dec 2010
 IETF LC End Date:
 IESG Telechat date: (if known)
 
 Summary: This document is ready for publication as a Standards Track
 RFC.
 
 Major issues:
 
 Minor issues:
 
 Nits/editorial comments:
 
 [Section3] This section seems like could benefit from a little more
 explanation and clarificatio.  For instance, you might explicitly
 deprecate the recommendations in Appendix E of the three TLS RFCs, with
 the exception of accepting SSLv2 CLIENT-HELLO messages.  (Might also be
 worthwhile to reinforce that even after accepting the SSLv2 CLIENT-
 HELLO, the server MUST NOT send any further SSLv2 messages.)
 
 
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[Gen-art] Fwd: [IESG-AGENDA-DIST] Summarized Agenda for the 2010-12-16 IESG Teleconference

2010-12-12 Thread Mary Barnes
HI folks,

I apologize that I have not yet had a chance to do the assignments for
thursday's telechat. I thought I could get to it over the weekend, but was
not able to obviously.  I will get the s/s updated and assignments  LCs out
by the end of the day tomorrow. But, until if folks could check and see the
docs that are on the telechat in case there are new versions.

Thanks,
Mary.

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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Summarized Agenda for the 2010-12-16 IESG Teleconference

This agenda was generated at 2010-12-09 15:07:44 PST
Up-to-date web version of this agenda can be found at:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/iesg/agenda/


1. Administrivia


1.1 Roll Call
1.2 Bash the Agenda
1.3 Approval of the Minutes of Past Telechats
1.4 List of Remaining Action Items from Last Telechat

   OUTSTANDING TASKS

Last updated: December 6, 2010

   o Jari Arkko to add guidance on multi-Area work to the wiki.

   o Michelle Cotton to provide draft of -bis document for RFC 4020
 Allocation procedures.

   o Tim Polk to update the IESG statement on choosing between
 Informational and Experimental status.

   o Alexey Melnikov to draft an IESG Statement on MIME Type
Registrations
 from other SDOs, to include a statement on the stability of
 references in Media Type Registrations.

   o Sean Turner to determine if it is safe to use the old and new
 protocol numbers in the same port [IANA #404374].

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items

 o draft-ietf-mpls-fastreroute-mib-15
   Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Traffic Engineering Management
   Information Base for Fast Reroute (Proposed Standard)
   Note: Loa Andersson (l...@pi.nu) is the document shepherd.
   Token: Adrian Farrel

 o draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-19
   HTTP State Management Mechanism (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Peter Saint-Andre

 o draft-ietf-sipcore-event-rate-control-05
   Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Event Notification Extension for
   Notification Rate Control (Proposed Standard)
   Note: Adam Roach (a...@nostrum.com) is the document shepherd.
   Token: Robert Sparks
   Was deferred by Cindy Morgan on 2010-12-02

 o draft-ietf-morg-list-specialuse-05
   IMAP LIST extension for special-use mailboxes (Proposed Standard)
   Note: Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi is the document shepherd.
   Token: Alexey Melnikov

 o draft-ietf-roll-trickle-06
   The Trickle Algorithm (Proposed Standard)
   Note: JP Vasseur (j...@cisco.com) is the document shepherd.
   Token: Adrian Farrel

 o draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-not-03
   Prohibiting SSL Version 2.0 (Proposed Standard)
   Note: Joe Salowey (jsalo...@cisco.com) is the document shepherd.
   Token: Alexey Melnikov

 o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-svc-24
   RTP Payload Format for Scalable Video Coding (Proposed Standard)
   Note: Roni Even is the document shepherd (even.r...@huawei.com)
   Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

 o draft-ietf-xmpp-address-07
   Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Address Format
   (Proposed Standard)
   Note: Ben Campbell (b...@nostrum.com) is the document shepherd.
   Token: Gonzalo Camarillo
   Was deferred by Cindy Morgan on 2010-12-02

 o draft-ietf-sieve-notify-presence-03
   Sieve Notification Using Presence Information (Proposed Standard)
   Note: Cyrus Daboo is the document shepherd.
   Token: Alexey Melnikov
   Was deferred by Robert Sparks on 2010-12-01

 o draft-ietf-mpls-ip-options-05
   Requirements for Label Edge Router Forwarding of IPv4 Option Packets
   (Proposed Standard)
   Note: George Swallow (swal...@cisco.com) is the Document Shepherd.
   Token: Adrian Farrel

 o draft-ietf-v6ops-3177bis-end-sites-00
   IPv6 Address Assignment to End Sites (BCP)
   Note: Fred Baker (f...@cisco.com) is the document shepherd.
   Token: Ron Bonica

 o draft-ietf-morg-fuzzy-search-03
   IMAP4 Extension for Fuzzy Search (Proposed Standard)
   Note: Barry Leiba (one of the MORG chairs) is the document shepherd.
   Token: Alexey Melnikov

 o draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-timestamps-02
   Reducing the TIME-WAIT state using TCP timestamps (BCP)
   Note: Wesley Eddy (wesley.m.e...@nasa.gov) is the document shepherd.
   Token: Lars Eggert

2.1.2 Returning Items

 NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items

 NONE

2.2.2 Returning Items

 o draft-cheshire-dnsext-dns-sd-07
   DNS-Based Service Discovery (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Ralph Droms

 o draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns-12
   Multicast DNS (Proposed Standard)
   Token: Ralph Droms

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items

 o draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-framework-09
   IPFIX Mediation: Framework (Informational)
   Note: Juergen Quittek is the document shepherd
   Token: Dan Romascanu

 o draft-ietf-opsec-protect-control-plane-04
   Protecting The 

Re: [Gen-art] review of draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-timestamps-02.txt

2010-12-12 Thread Fernando Gont
Hi, Francis,

Thanks so much for your feedback! Please find my comments inline

 Nits/editorial comments:
  - ToC page 2 and 7 page 8: Acknowledgements - Acknowledgments
  (BTW the american for honour is honor too, ask the RFC Editor
   to change honour spelling if he wants)

These have been published as is in previous RFCs I have authored...



  - 1 page 3: in
   The Timestamps option, specified in RFC 1323 [RFC1323], allows a TCP
to include a timestamp value in its segments, that can be used to
 
   perhaps there is a missing word (like speaker) after TCP?

The term a TCP is usually employed as a short form for a TCP instance



  - 2 pages 4 and 5: I don't understand where the difference between
   these two texts comes from:
 
 the Sequence Number of the incoming SYN segment
  is larger than the last sequence number seen on the previous
  incarnation of the connection (for that direction of the data
  transfer), then honour the connection request (creating a
  connection in the SYN-RECEIVED state).
 the Sequence Number of the incoming SYN
  segment is larger than the last sequence number seen on the
  previous incarnation of the connection (for the same direction
  of the data transfer), then honour the incoming connection
  request (even if the sequence number of the incoming SYN
  segment falls within the receive window of the previous
  incarnation of the connection).
 
   i.e., I can easily tell whether the small variations between similar
   specifications are just to make reading less boring or are about
   real differences.

Fair enough. I will update the text on page 5 as follows, such to avoid
the minor differences with the text in page 4:

   *  If TCP timestamps would be enabled for the new incarnation of
  the connection, honour the incoming connection request (creating
  a connection in the SYN-RECEIVED state).
 
   *  If TCP timestamps would not be enabled for the new incarnation
  of the connection, but the Sequence Number of the incoming SYN
  segment is larger than the last sequence number seen on the
  previous incarnation of the connection (for the same direction
  of the data transfer), then honour the incoming connection
  request (creating a connection in the SYN-RECEIVED state).

Better?


  - 2 page 6: KB/s - kbytes/s or kilobytes/s (at least K (Kelvin) -
   k (kilo) and B - bytes in letters)

I will change it to kilobytes/second.



  - 4 page 7: I guess it is a typo:
 
   [CPNI-TCP].  [RFC1948] proposes an alternative ISN-generation scheme
which results in monotonically-increasing timestamps across
  ^^ ISNs

You're right. Thanks for catching this one! -- Will fix it.



   connections that are not easily-predictable by an off-path attacker.
 
  - 8.2 page 9 [INFOCOM-99] and [Silbersack]]: ' .' - '.'

These will be fixed by the RFC-Ed... (they usually play xml tricks to
make the output look nicer)

Thanks!

Kind regards,
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Fernando Gont
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