Re: [Gendergap] Calling all neutral user names She?

[Emily Monroe]

I've been both mistaken for a male, and usually kind-hardheartedly teased
for being female ever since, I believe, I got on the internet.

So yeah. I'm not even embarrassed about it anymore.

From,
Emily


On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:19 PM,  wrote:

> I used to use they, but with all these "she's" lately, and some editors
> calling her "he", I thought... why not.
>
> Someone mentioned privately
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_pronoun#Modern_solutions
>
> So options is best way to go, and let nature take its course as what
> seems most appropriate or the mood I'm in...
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[Gendergap] Wikipedia:Original_research#Original_images

[Fred Bauder]

Images used on Wikipedia should reflect information published in reliable
sources about the subject, not the internal life of the editor, nor the
consensus of how editors view the subject.

See Wikipedia:Original_research#Original_images

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Wikipedia:Original_research#Original_images

This is the appropriate policy to cite with respect to images which
reflect "objectification" of the subject. Such images come from the
internal psychic images people have rather than corresponding to reality,
see [[object relations theory]].

Fred


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Re: [Gendergap] Calling all neutral user names She?

[carolmooredc]

I used to use they, but with all these "she's" lately, and some editors 
calling her "he", I thought... why not.

Someone mentioned privately 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender-neutral_pronoun#Modern_solutions

So options is best way to go, and let nature take its course as what 
seems most appropriate or the mood I'm in...

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Re: [Gendergap] Calling all neutral user names She?

[Daniel and Elizabeth Case]

> Feel free. I'm going to continue to use "they", which usually fits
> without violating gender grammar too much.

I use "they" when referring to the third person of a gender-unknown someone 
I'm not expecting to join the conversation and "s/he" when I am (possibly as 
a prod to clarification on said person's part). I don't think "xe", which 
some people have tried to use, really works ... people often think that it 
was a typo, and the first time I saw it at the head of a sentence I 
scratched my head and wondered what xenon had to do with any of this.

Daniel Case 



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Re: [Gendergap] Calling all neutral user names She?

[Fred Bauder]

> Having  just now read through a long paragraph on ANI of a user saying
> he or she and him or her about an editor, I say, for less complexities
> sake, let's do it. See what happens.

Feel free. I'm going to continue to use "they", which usually fits
without violating gender grammar too much.

Fred


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Re: [Gendergap] Calling all neutral user names She?

[Sarah Stierch]

I'm game. This will be fun, especially with my pals on Commons ;-)

Sent via iPhone - I apologize in advance for my shortness or errors! :)


On Sep 8, 2011, at 1:27 PM, carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote:

> Having  just now read through a long paragraph on ANI of a user saying he or 
> she and him or her about an editor, I say, for less complexities sake, let's 
> do it. See what happens. 
> 
> On 9/8/2011 12:48 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
>> 
>> I actually would love to follow the reactions of people when you call them 
>> "she" and you're wrong. How would they reply?
>> 
>> Kaldari says he's been called "she" a number of times! :) 
>> 
>> Sarah
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:37 PM,  wrote:
>> Recently two users I thought were he's turned out to be she's.  And then
>> I identified a user with a neutral sounding name as a he - though
>> looking again at name, probably is a she.
>> 
>> Then it occurred to me, why assume they are male anyway?
>> 
>> Why not call all neutral user names she from now on?
>> 
>> He is part of she.
>> Male is part of female.
>> Man is part of woman.
>> 
>> Hmmm... how much "trouble" will I get in if I do it??
>> 
>> Carol in dc
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Re: [Gendergap] Calling all neutral user names She?

[carolmooredc]

Having  just now read through a long paragraph on ANI of a user saying 
he or she and him or her about an editor, I say, for less complexities 
sake, let's do it. See what happens.


On 9/8/2011 12:48 PM, Sarah Stierch wrote:
I actually would love to follow the reactions of people when you call 
them "she" and you're wrong. How would they reply?


Kaldari says he's been called "she" a number of times! :)

Sarah

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:37 PM, > wrote:


Recently two users I thought were he's turned out to be she's.
 And then
I identified a user with a neutral sounding name as a he - though
looking again at name, probably is a she.

Then it occurred to me, why assume they are male anyway?

Why not call all neutral user names she from now on?

He is part of she.
Male is part of female.
Man is part of woman.

Hmmm... how much "trouble" will I get in if I do it??

Carol in dc



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Re: [Gendergap] Calling all neutral user names She?

[Sarah Stierch]

I actually would love to follow the reactions of people when you call them
"she" and you're wrong. How would they reply?

Kaldari says he's been called "she" a number of times! :)

Sarah

On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:37 PM,  wrote:

> Recently two users I thought were he's turned out to be she's.  And then
> I identified a user with a neutral sounding name as a he - though
> looking again at name, probably is a she.
>
> Then it occurred to me, why assume they are male anyway?
>
> Why not call all neutral user names she from now on?
>
> He is part of she.
> Male is part of female.
> Man is part of woman.
>
> Hmmm... how much "trouble" will I get in if I do it??
>
> Carol in dc
>
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[Gendergap] Calling all neutral user names She?

[carolmooredc]

Recently two users I thought were he's turned out to be she's.  And then 
I identified a user with a neutral sounding name as a he - though 
looking again at name, probably is a she.

Then it occurred to me, why assume they are male anyway?

Why not call all neutral user names she from now on?

He is part of she.
Male is part of female.
Man is part of woman.

Hmmm... how much "trouble" will I get in if I do it??

Carol in dc

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[Gendergap] The Gawker on Monica Lewinsky

[Fred Bauder]

http://gawker.com/5838090/monica-lewinsky-wants-to-go-into-pr

Notice the sympathetic comments.

I wonder what our article looks like.

Fred


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