Re: [Gendergap] men on lists

2014-06-25 Thread Carol Moore dc

On 6/24/2014 4:02 PM, Kevin Gorman wrote:
 If there is a problematic situation that the list moderators have 
missed (which are currently me, Sue Gardner - who tends to be busy 
enough to not be an active moderator, and Liz Kent,) I would encourage 
anyone concerned about it to bring it to our direct attention by 
emailing one of us individually, or by emailing 
gendergap-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org 
mailto:gendergap-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org, which will email all 
three of us.  If you are interested in becoming a moderator, I'd also 
invite you to email us - unfortunately, since Cynthia passed, we're 
down one moderator from where we normally are.
I do encourage another woman to volunteer who can encourage women to 
speak out and not let guys get out of line as in 2012ish period. I'm a 
bit too ... too...  myself, so best I merely post : - )


CM
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Re: [Gendergap] Wikiproject? ...Threads on various issues

2014-06-25 Thread Marie Earley
A subpage in an existing project would be one idea but please not the Feminism 
project. I was invited to it very early on by well meaning editors as a place 
for such discussions but found sex-positive feminists who think female porn 
stars are the definition of female empowerment.

Gender Studies is fine, but how about 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Discrimination

Perhaps in the short-term the use of the following templates could be extended, 
or similar templates developed to cover identified articles, so editors work on 
draft changes on their user page, they are checked by gender-friendly 
ambassadors who are also have specialist knowledge in the area that the article 
covers. It would be less about taking on individual editors and their 
behaviour, and more about saying, actually a decision has been made to put 
this article under an umbrella. 
* Template:WAP assignment
* Template:Educational assignment
* Template:Course assignment

Example template code:

{{main other||{{tmbox| image = [[File:Male_and_female_sign.svg|50px]]| style = 
text-align:center;| text  = This article {{#if:{{{ended|}}}| 
{{#switch:{{{ended|}}}|NO|N|n|False|false|no=is|#default=was}}|is}} the subject 
of gender related affirmative action {{#if:{{{university|}}}|at 
{{{university} supported by 
{{#if:{{{project|}}}|[[Wikipedia:{{{project}}}|{{{project}}}]] and}} the 
Wikipedia Pro-female Ambassador Program{{#if:{{{term|}}}| #32;during the 
{{{term}}} term}}

I noticed that Professor Diana Strassman, the founding editor of the journal 
Feminist Economics is an Wikipedia editor (User:DStrassmann) and runs 
Wikipedia Education Program Courses (although I don't see recent contributions 
from her).

Co-editor of the journal is Professor Günseli Berik, she is also a Wikipedia 
editor (User:BerikG) and also runs academic programs, perhaps she would like to 
get involved.

Marie

Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 18:49:46 -0400
From: carolmoor...@verizon.net
To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Wikiproject?  ...Threads on various issues


  

  
  
On 6/23/2014 3:17 PM, Derric Atzrott
  wrote:



  
  
  
  
Maybe
it would be worth making threads for some of these ideas. 
If no one else does, I’d be happy to.
*Threads
  here? Like proposals that could be worked over and brought to
  our various wikis?  That's what we need to do.  I re-named one
  thread that dealt with one issue and renamed this one too,
  just for emphasis...

  

  
I’m not very familiar with the process
of starting Wikiprojects, but I imagine the biggest barrier
to entry to this would be finding someone for each
language.  I imagine that this would work something like the
ambassador program, at least on the smaller Wikipedias. 
This is to say on Wikipedias where the project is too small
to really have someone who can handle the Wikiproject we
would find a volunteer on Meta who speaks that language and
would have them generally just keep an eye on things.  Each
of these Wikiprojects should have a noticeboard of some sort
that folks having issues can post to that the ambassador
type would keep an eye on.
Does this all sound reasonable?
Thank you,

Derric Atzrott


  



First, of course, there is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Gender_Studies
which even has a Mind_the_Gap_Award  And of course there is a
Wikiproject Feminism. And I'm sure other languages have such
projects.



Would it want to take on subpages that dealt with women's issues
with harassment, insults, double standards and the stickier problems
that bother women? 



Of course, I remember when something with such a goal was proposed
way back in 2011 on this list there were concerns about it giving
women specifial privileges or something.  I forget. People created
the Tea House instead.  



But some relevant subgroup of Wikiproject Gender Studies or
Feminism, like anything else, some women hopefully have to spearhead
it and maintain it.  I'm too burned out myself. 



CM

  


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