Re: [Gendergap] Who are the nicest people on our projects ?
On Feb 5, 2015, at 1:35 PM, Alison Cassidy coot...@mac.com wrote: For an interesting twist, the #1 on the most-thanked list for the English Wikipedia is a previously banned editor who was unbanned and allowed back in. He has since become a superb editor. Goes to show … :) Actually, the most thank-y :) My bad! — Allie___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Who are the nicest people on our projects ?
On Feb 5, 2015, at 12:41 PM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case danc...@frontiernet.net wrote: Hmm, I think the list of most-thanked people actually tells us more about who is doing the thanking. I see at least 5 names on that list that I recognise from my watchlist and therefore I may have thanked (statistically unlikely I would recognise 5 out of 10 random Wikipedia user names) and 2 of them I know I have thanked many times as we interact regularly in two different topic areas. My takeaway from that list, for enwiki at least, is that at least a few of the names on it are admins very active in anti-vandalism work, so I would guess a fair amount of the thanks they get are from people who've made reports to AIV and are thankful for the ensuing block of the vandal (based on my experience from when I was doing that heavily). For an interesting twist, the #1 on the most-thanked list for the English Wikipedia is a previously banned editor who was unbanned and allowed back in. He has since become a superb editor. Goes to show … :) — Allie ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] press coverage of Gamergate arbcom case
On Jan 26, 2015, at 2:43 AM, Fæ fae...@gmail.com wrote: Tarc, I felt your lipstick on a pig comment about a transexual was not just disgusting, but was a key example of why we needed a WM-LGBT user group to both highlight and gradually improve a hostile culture on Wikimedia projects that appeared to allow blatantly anti-LGBT attitudes and language on its projects under the guise of being a joke or teasing. Fæ, please don't refer to someone as a transsexual; it's objectifying and demeaning. Imagine someone calling you a gay - doesn't that just sound *wrong*? Adjective, not noun. -- Allie ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org To manage your subscription preferences, including unsubscribing, please visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Addressing incivility (was: men on lists)
I'm European (from Ireland) and clearly identify this as a major issue. -- Allie (User:Alison) On Jul 4, 2014, at 11:53 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: do you know women outside the north american culture, i.e. US and CA, affected by this? rupert Am 03.07.2014 21:13 schrieb Leigh Honeywell le...@hypatia.ca: Even if it is an en-wiki only issue, it's having a clear impact on editor retention and therefore the long-term sustainability of the project. I think trying to fix that is easy to dismiss as micromanagement but sometimes it turns out that fixing the big picture /does/ require organizational leadership to address specific things. -Leigh On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Well, here's the issue. It's never been clear to me whether this is a WMF-wide issue or it's an English Wikipedia specific issue. The overwhelming majority of people participating on this list work almost exclusively on enwiki, and almost every single experience discussed here involves enwiki. As important as we all know English Wikipedia to be (if nothing else, it's the fundraising driver from which the bulk of donations derives), it's also only one of hundreds of projects. There are issues with the Board micromanaging a single project directly, and pretty serious issues when the Board tries to fix a problem on one project by creating a global policy or rule that may actually be counterproductive in other areas. (And as we can see from the obtuseness that Commons shows about such issues as personality rights - a major gendergap issue in my mind - even when the Board does try to intervene, it's often ineffective.) Risker/Anne On 3 July 2014 14:58, Leigh Honeywell le...@hypatia.ca wrote: The more I hear about this, the more I think this is something that WMF needs to address at an institutional level (Board etc.) to resolve these process issues and loopholes. Has this ever been taken up the chain? -Leigh On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: You know, I sat on Arbcom for five years, and there were several occasions when I practically begged those complaining about the behaviour of certain individuals to initiate a casebut nobody wanted to do that... Well, you know I did actually take one of the worst misogynists on en.wiki to ArbCom,[1] and it was such a horrible experience that I decided to never do it again. After giving up a month of my life to the case and enduring constant harassment during the process, all of the evidence that I painstakingly assembled, presented, and defended was completely ignored by ArbCom, and instead he was banned for a year for making a legal threat. He is now free to return on the condition that he simply agrees not to make any more legal threats. You were actually on that ArbCom panel, Risker, so I don't really understand your argument that taking incivil editors to ArbCom is a good idea. To me it is worse than a waste of effort, it is actually counterproductive and an invitation to be relentlessly harassed. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Alastair_Haines_2oldid=360884518 Ryan Kaldari ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- Leigh Honeywell http://hypatia.ca @hypatiadotca ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- Leigh Honeywell http://hypatia.ca @hypatiadotca ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Category:Nude portrayals of computer technology
Hi again, Admin User:Evula attempted to delete them per COM:SCOPE but every single one was immediately restored. People are now yelling at him on his talk page. -- Allie On May 17, 2013, at 3:05 PM, Lennart Guldbrandsson l_guldbrands...@hotmail.com wrote: Oh, this was not good. I wonder how many of these were taken and uploaded voluntarily. Best wishes, Lennart Guldbrandsson Personlig blogg Presentation @aliasHannibal Mobil: 070 - 207 80 05 Tänk dig en värld där varje människa på den här planeten får fri tillgång till världens samlade kunskap. Det är vårt mål. Jimmy Wales From: coot...@mac.com Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 14:58:12 -0700 To: gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Gendergap] Category:Nude portrayals of computer technology Hi all, Can someone please explain to me why Category:Nude portrayals of computer technology (NSFW) even exists? How is a category like this, whatever about the image, remotely encyclopedic or useful to the project? It is populated entirely with sexualized images of women - almost all naked or semi-naked - with only tangential references to computer technology. I'm a computer engineer myself, and a paid-up member of SWE. Given the drive to get more women involved in STEM fields, I see stuff like this as being really damaging. And this is just one single example. -- Allie ___ Gendergap mailing listgender...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Topless image retention -don't give up
I feel *exactly* the same way, and I'm a Commons admin :( This speaks for me, too. -- Allie On May 12, 2013, at 1:15 PM, Katherine Casey fluffernutter.w...@gmail.com wrote: Alas no, I'm not up to your challenge. I'm subject to quite enough aggression and strange sexualization of situations on enwp; I don't have the energy to dive headfirst into an even worse atmosphere of those things on Commons. I'm much more comfortable speaking here, in an environment of respect and support, than I would ever be there, in an environment where my right to my opinions would be challenged and I'd be shouting into a void while thinking that at any moment someone was going to ask me to show my tits. Not everyone has unlimited tolerance for doing things that make them very uncomfortable; as someone whose tolerance for that is perhaps lower than some other people's, my hope is that my voice here, where I am comfortable speaking, will be heard - as it seems to be, given this thread and the inroads that have been made on Commons as a result of it - and that my speaking here it will provide support to the people who are willing to brave that environment. -Fluff ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Article Cumshot in English and German Wikipedia
On May 2, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Thomas Morton wrote: Advertising not sexist. Really. Well I'd be interested to hear rational arguments that it is... I've always found advertising to be highly sexualised, but refreshingly free of sexism. You're kidding, right? Advertising is so jam-loaded with sexism, it's hard to know where to start. Just about every advert plays on stereotypes. When's the last time you saw a guy cleaning kitchens in TV ads? Or a woman buying cars? Yes, there are exceptions but they're pretty thin on the ground. Oh, and hello everyone! I'm User:Alison from enwiki and Commons :) -- Allie ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
