Re: [Gendergap] inspired me
Hi Kathleen, I'm sorry you've had so much difficult uploading this journal cover. There's a couple options we can take to make this easier. First, to upload the cover of the journal on commons, you'll need to make sure that the designer of the cover not only permits you to upload it, but also permits it to be released under a valid creative commons license. That would mean that anybody could use that image, even for commercial purposes. If that permission is granted, you can upload the image and have a completed version of this formhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiriessent to permissions-comm...@wikimedia.org You can leave a note at my Wikipedia talk page here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryan_Vesey and I can help you tie up any loose ends. A more detailed description can be seen on this pagehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Donating_copyrighted_materials. Another option, if the journal has a website, would be to have a disclaimer on the website stating that the cover is released under a valid license. If the copyright owner is unwilling to release the cover under such an open license, or wants to release the image to Wikipedia only it can be uploaded locally to English Wikipedia with this linkhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:File_Upload_Wizardunder a fair use claim. Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Acr_cover.jpg is an example of a journal using a fair use claim. I hope this helps, Ryan Vesey On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Kathleen McCook klmcc...@gmail.com wrote: I have read this list with great care. I am a senior faculty member in what used to be a library school but is now an iSchool. Most of our new hires have been men who try very hard to pretend that the librarian legacy is disappearing. In my classes (one is the History of Libraries) my students are 60% female. All of my assignments are to edit and contribute to Wikipedia from the scholarship students uncover in archives and local histories. 35 years ago I chaired the American Library Association Committee on the Status of Women in Librarianship--baffled that a field of women was dominated by men. It was a long effort to isolate factors that resulted in status differential but the factors were 1)publishing; 2) professional involvement; 3) willingness to relocate. So, the issue of women's opportunity for full participation continues. I will do my best to encourage women to be involved in Wikipedia and thus help to broaden the perspective. Reading this list has been very inspirational. In the past ten years my efforts to edit in Wikipedia were very discouraging in spite of a doctoral degree in my subject field. I know there were many nameless boys delighting in destruction. I have completely given up trying to post images as the image watchers delight in making this near to impossible even if one is trying to upload one's own pictures. The cover of a journal I edit, that is in the commons that I had full editorial board approval to upload has never been allowed. But a boy in pajamas beat me every time . This group has shown that that is so and must be fought--before I encountered this group I was more and more discouraged. Don't back down. Kathleen de la Peña McCook, Librarian On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:47 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: Don't we know by now not to read the comment sections? ;) I gave that up a while ago. If I read the comment sections I would have quit my fellowship months ago and given up the fight. -Sarah Sent from my iPhone On Jan 25, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Ole Palnatoke Andersen o...@palnatoke.org wrote: I thought of sharing the article, but then I read the comment. :-( regards, Ole On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.comwrote: Myself and Joseph Reagle were interviewed by the Daily Dot about the gender gap. You can read it here: http://www.dailydot.com/society/wikipedia-gender-gap-sarah-stierch/ Probably one of my favorite articles thus far about the gender gap. Beware, dorky photograph of yours truly at the top, so if you haven't had your coffee this morning it'll surely startle you. ;) -Sarah -- *Sarah Stierch* *Museumist and open culture advocate* Visit sarahstierch.com http://sarahstierch.com ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap -- http://palnatoke.org * @palnatoke * +4522934588 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Wikipatia
I don't believe it will be pulling content from Wikipedia considering 2008 - 2012 Alpha Kitty, Ltd. All Rights Reserved. The content wouldn't meet our share-alike requirements unless those pages were specifically released. In addition, it doesn't appear like it will actually be a wiki, but I could be wrong since the site is still in development. In any case, it seems like an interesting site to follow. Ryan From: gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Stierch Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:59 PM To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects Subject: [Gendergap] Wikipatia Hi everyone, Just curious, are you familiar with this: http://wikipatia.com/wikipatia_wiki_hypatia.html It doesn't exist yet, and I've been following their tweets. Just curious if anyone knows the wiki woman who is developing this :) (I'm also curious if this will involve pulling content from Wikipedia to build the wiki or if it'll be freshly written content, etc..) -Sarah -- Sarah Stierch Museumist and open culture advocate Visit sarahstierch.com http://sarahstierch.com ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Reminder of Feminism Article Alerts
Carol, I have to point out that I added myself to the gender gap list because I want to help reduce it; however, comments you make are pushing me to remove myself. Your attitude when it comes to feminism is combative. Taking a combative stance doesn't help your argument. Ryan Vesey From: gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Morton Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:38 AM To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Reminder of Feminism Article Alerts What I am taking personally is your assertion that we nominated these articles for some anti-female agenda. Which you continue to do by suggesting my characterisation of your argument as ridiculous is due to you being a woman. The irony of then telling me not to take it personally is... Ah, well.. Of course I take personally being characterised as holding offensive views. The point was; I am educating you about the sorts of things that put people off editing. I am a big believer in making wikipedia a welcoming place, and your comments characterise the unfortunate low level nastiness that often puts people off. I am sure it was unintended, hence the explanation. Tom Morton On 26 Aug 2012, at 17:28, Carol Moore DC carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: As a female I've been called ridiculous for having an opinion so many times I don't even know what it means anymore :-) But seriously, it's not like the nominator said:I'm on the GenderGap list and here's why I think this list would agree these articles should be deleted... Don't take rejections of AfD nominations so personally... CM On 8/26/2012 11:50 AM, Thomas Morton wrote: On 26 Aug 2012, at 16:36, Carol Moore DC carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: Questionable just means one has questions. So it's nice, unlike the other words which I was contrasting with questionable - not using to describe my specific questions on specific articles in that particular AfD list. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Feminism/Article_alerts But frankly I do wonder why two people on this list nominate brand new articles related to women for deletion rather than improving them. HOWEVER -- the specifics should be discussed at the relevant AfD pages, so if this little dust up gets people there, goody goody!! :-) CM Wow. What a ridiculous way to say yes. Ive always found you to be switched on and relevant in the past; but looking over your contributions to those AFDs it feels like your certain the aim is to remove these articles because we are anti-women. And for no other reason. This is the sort of thing that puts women off editing Wikipedia and I am happy to call it out. Tom ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5225 - Release Date: 08/26/12 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
Re: [Gendergap] Reminder of Feminism Article Alerts
I’ll disagree with you on the point here. The tone I referred to was one that I attempt to avoid using myself. I don’t feel that it is conducive to discussion when used by males or females. On the topic of the Gender Gap. Thanks to the awesome help of Sarah, I just created 5 articles about the 100 most powerful women in the world. I’m also drafting a letter to the editor to be sent to the Daily Pennsylvanian to encourage female participation on Wikipedia. On the topic of Wikinews, it’s a writing style that I’m not comfortable with. I’m a very poor writer in general (still putting off my writing seminar) so trying to manage multiple writing styles is too much. Ryan From: gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Laura Hale Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 3:40 PM To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Reminder of Feminism Article Alerts Hate to be a pain... but Ryan, your comments and the comments by another male on the list, they make me feel uncomfortable as the tone argument is one historically used to repress women and to silence them. As women in western cultures, many of us have been culturally indoctrinated to be loud, pushy and abrasive in order to get things accomplished. If we just go along with the flow, we cannot get things accomplished that men could get accomplished. This is a historical thing, and I would hope as a man on a list like this, you would be aware of the historical backdrop for which your comment sits. I find nothing wrong with Carol's tone and I find it troubling that the people who do are all men, and that men continue to dominate the conversation with out having provided any real evidence of their value to improving the gendergap or any evidence of having learned lessons from this list... such as, you know, using the tone argument to historically repress women and how it really looks when men appear to gang up on a woman to do that. Now, that may not be your intent, and I assuming you were acting in good faith in making your comment... but now you know. :) And hopefully, you will use fewer arguments used to historically repress female voices. :) Anyway, what gendergap work have you been doing lately Ryan? We miss you on Wikinews and would love to have you writing articles about women over there. :) Sincerely, Laura Hale Sent from my iPad On 26/08/2012, at 7:11 PM, Ryan Vesey rdjve...@gmail.com wrote: Carol, I have to point out that I added myself to the gender gap list because I want to help reduce it; however, comments you make are pushing me to remove myself. Your attitude when it comes to feminism is combative. Taking a combative stance doesn’t help your argument. Ryan Vesey From: gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:gendergap-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Morton Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 11:38 AM To: Increasing female participation in Wikimedia projects Subject: Re: [Gendergap] Reminder of Feminism Article Alerts What I am taking personally is your assertion that we nominated these articles for some anti-female agenda. Which you continue to do by suggesting my characterisation of your argument as ridiculous is due to you being a woman. The irony of then telling me not to take it personally is... Ah, well.. Of course I take personally being characterised as holding offensive views. The point was; I am educating you about the sorts of things that put people off editing. I am a big believer in making wikipedia a welcoming place, and your comments characterise the unfortunate low level nastiness that often puts people off. I am sure it was unintended, hence the explanation. Tom Morton On 26 Aug 2012, at 17:28, Carol Moore DC carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: As a female I've been called ridiculous for having an opinion so many times I don't even know what it means anymore :-) But seriously, it's not like the nominator said:I'm on the GenderGap list and here's why I think this list would agree these articles should be deleted... Don't take rejections of AfD nominations so personally... CM On 8/26/2012 11:50 AM, Thomas Morton wrote: On 26 Aug 2012, at 16:36, Carol Moore DC carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: Questionable just means one has questions. So it's nice, unlike the other words which I was contrasting with questionable - not using to describe my specific questions on specific articles in that particular AfD list. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Feminism/Article_alerts But frankly I do wonder why two people on this list nominate brand new articles related to women for deletion rather than improving them. HOWEVER -- the specifics should be discussed at the relevant AfD pages, so if this little dust up gets people there, goody goody!! :-) CM Wow. What a ridiculous way to say
[Gendergap] New Gendergap work on Wikipedia
Hi all, I apologize if you received this information before; however, for the Wikipedians in the mailing list there is a new project you might be interested in. The newly created WikiProject Editor Retention http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Editor_Retention will be creating a gender gap team http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Editor_Retention/Teams . A subpage still hasn't been created for the team, but I encourage anyone interested to take part. Ryan Vesey -- Ryan D.J. Vesey College of Arts and Sciences | University of Pennsylvania B.A. in Political Science Candidate, 2015 mailto:rve...@sas.upenn.edu rve...@sas.upenn.edu | tel:507-822-6145 507-822-6145 ___ Gendergap mailing list Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap
