Re: [Gendergap] Thank someone today.

2015-02-05 Thread Carol Moore dc

I just took a look and two of the editors were big
critics of GGTF on my talk page, it's talk page
and during arbitration and big defenders of the
individual best known for using the C word
including supporting him on his talk page...

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Re: [Gendergap] Thank someone today.

2015-02-05 Thread Risker
Kerry, I'm pretty sure you didn't know this, but you are amongst the top 10
thankers on English Wikipedia - and THANK YOU for doing that.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:F%C3%A6/sandboxoldid=149050523
- now being discussed on Wikimedia-L mailing list.

(This is the result of a script that Fae ran on enwiki and commons - it
would be really interesting to see how other projects do as well.)

I do confess that I've started to use the number of thanks and on- or
off-wiki positive messages about an action to reassure me that a chosen
comment is on-point (or sometimes to recognize that it's not on-point,
too).  This kind of feedback is a lot more useful than I'd initially
expected, and I'm working up to giving more of them.  My initial restraint
was probably linked to my unwillingness to use the Wikilove extension -
nothing wrong with it except for using the word Wikilove in every edit
summary, which I find really creepy.

Risker/Anne

On 5 February 2015 at 05:04, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well Jonathan, thanks for doing that! I am not an administrator, so I
 couldn't do those things you mentioned, but I often think that in some
 cases I wish I could do more than just thank the person. I know however
 that I was very suspicious of anyone posting on my talk page in the
 beginning, so I feel like the generic thanks is the best way to approach
 someone the first time. If someone comes across my watchlist a few times
 with I perceive as a theme, then I will tip them about how to do basic
 things like create a category on commons for related images, or fill out
 the Wikidata item, or browse similar items in Reasonator.

 On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:50 AM, WereSpielChequers 
 werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:

 Much of my editing on wikipedia is minor typo fixes, the sort that a
 normal spellchecker won't pick up. I secularised lots of sports teams from
 having mangers to managers and also dealt with the problem of rock stars
 preforming songs in sports stadiums. I used to be able to do hundreds of
 such edits without anyone seeming to notice any except where they had
 missed the l from public. But now I get thanked for several percent of my
 edits, I think that is a really positive change on the pedia, of course the
 metrics people will take it as a negative because some of those thanks will
 be replacing edits, so the short term effect on the editing level is likely
 to be slightly negative.

 I do tend to check out who has thanked me and make sure the newbies who
 do so have had a welcome and give the ignored old hands reviewer status if
 I think they are ready for it.

 One of the most dysfunctional bits of the project is the way that people
 can do huge amounts of uncontentious stuff with very little interaction
 with others. I sometimes trawl the accounts who have recently created their
 100th article and where appropriate set them as auto patrolled, often when
 i look at their talk pages the interactions they've had have been minimal.

 Regards

 Jonathan Cardy


 On 5 Feb 2015, at 00:11, Keilana keilanaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I love the thanks button, it's such an easy way to add more positivity to
 the wiki and the world. :)

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Katherine Casey 
 fluffernutter.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have found myself using the thank button more than usual recently.
 In the middle of all the turmoil that goes on onwiki, a simple hey, that
 thing you did that you thought no one noticed? Yeah, thanks for doing that
 goes a long way toward cancelling some of it out.

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:52 PM, LB lightbreath...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree, Kerry. I try to use the thank button at least once a day.

 Lightbreather

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 We talk a lot of about the culture of Wikipedia being negative,
 critical,
 abrasive etc; this is a turn-off to a lot of women (and also to a lot
 of
 men). But what can we do to change that? Well, I thought about the way
 that
 postings get Liked on Facebook. Indeed, most postings get many Likes on
 Facebook. It seems if you read something and appreciate the post in
 any way
 (which includes when you agree with the poster that it is unhappy
 matter and
 hence unlikeable matter), you click Like.

 Well, I decided to try it on Wikipedia. Now, when I run through my
 watchlist
 (which I do most mornings), instead of just looking for what's wrong
 and
 needs to be fixed, instead if I see a positive contribution to an
 article,
 even a small one, I thank the contributor for the edit.

 And if I notice I am thanking someone quite a bit, I send them some
 Wikilove
 or a Barnstar. I notice a small increase in the number of thanks I am
 receiving. While I realise this may be simple reciprocation, I'd like
 to
 think I might be creating a small culture of appreciation in my topic
 space,
 hoping that people choose to Pay It Forward.

 So, that's my suggestion. Try thanking 

Re: [Gendergap] Thank someone today.

2015-02-05 Thread Jane Darnell
Well Jonathan, thanks for doing that! I am not an administrator, so I
couldn't do those things you mentioned, but I often think that in some
cases I wish I could do more than just thank the person. I know however
that I was very suspicious of anyone posting on my talk page in the
beginning, so I feel like the generic thanks is the best way to approach
someone the first time. If someone comes across my watchlist a few times
with I perceive as a theme, then I will tip them about how to do basic
things like create a category on commons for related images, or fill out
the Wikidata item, or browse similar items in Reasonator.

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:50 AM, WereSpielChequers 
werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:

 Much of my editing on wikipedia is minor typo fixes, the sort that a
 normal spellchecker won't pick up. I secularised lots of sports teams from
 having mangers to managers and also dealt with the problem of rock stars
 preforming songs in sports stadiums. I used to be able to do hundreds of
 such edits without anyone seeming to notice any except where they had
 missed the l from public. But now I get thanked for several percent of my
 edits, I think that is a really positive change on the pedia, of course the
 metrics people will take it as a negative because some of those thanks will
 be replacing edits, so the short term effect on the editing level is likely
 to be slightly negative.

 I do tend to check out who has thanked me and make sure the newbies who do
 so have had a welcome and give the ignored old hands reviewer status if I
 think they are ready for it.

 One of the most dysfunctional bits of the project is the way that people
 can do huge amounts of uncontentious stuff with very little interaction
 with others. I sometimes trawl the accounts who have recently created their
 100th article and where appropriate set them as auto patrolled, often when
 i look at their talk pages the interactions they've had have been minimal.

 Regards

 Jonathan Cardy


 On 5 Feb 2015, at 00:11, Keilana keilanaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I love the thanks button, it's such an easy way to add more positivity to
 the wiki and the world. :)

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Katherine Casey 
 fluffernutter.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have found myself using the thank button more than usual recently. In
 the middle of all the turmoil that goes on onwiki, a simple hey, that
 thing you did that you thought no one noticed? Yeah, thanks for doing that
 goes a long way toward cancelling some of it out.

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:52 PM, LB lightbreath...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree, Kerry. I try to use the thank button at least once a day.

 Lightbreather

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 We talk a lot of about the culture of Wikipedia being negative,
 critical,
 abrasive etc; this is a turn-off to a lot of women (and also to a lot of
 men). But what can we do to change that? Well, I thought about the way
 that
 postings get Liked on Facebook. Indeed, most postings get many Likes on
 Facebook. It seems if you read something and appreciate the post in any
 way
 (which includes when you agree with the poster that it is unhappy
 matter and
 hence unlikeable matter), you click Like.

 Well, I decided to try it on Wikipedia. Now, when I run through my
 watchlist
 (which I do most mornings), instead of just looking for what's wrong and
 needs to be fixed, instead if I see a positive contribution to an
 article,
 even a small one, I thank the contributor for the edit.

 And if I notice I am thanking someone quite a bit, I send them some
 Wikilove
 or a Barnstar. I notice a small increase in the number of thanks I am
 receiving. While I realise this may be simple reciprocation, I'd like to
 think I might be creating a small culture of appreciation in my topic
 space,
 hoping that people choose to Pay It Forward.

 So, that's my suggestion. Try thanking people on-wiki in the various
 ways
 available.  Become part of the niceness culture that we'd like
 Wikipedia to
 become known for.

 Kerry



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Re: [Gendergap] Thank someone today.

2015-02-05 Thread WereSpielChequers
Much of my editing on wikipedia is minor typo fixes, the sort that a normal 
spellchecker won't pick up. I secularised lots of sports teams from having 
mangers to managers and also dealt with the problem of rock stars preforming 
songs in sports stadiums. I used to be able to do hundreds of such edits 
without anyone seeming to notice any except where they had missed the l from 
public. But now I get thanked for several percent of my edits, I think that is 
a really positive change on the pedia, of course the metrics people will take 
it as a negative because some of those thanks will be replacing edits, so the 
short term effect on the editing level is likely to be slightly negative.

I do tend to check out who has thanked me and make sure the newbies who do so 
have had a welcome and give the ignored old hands reviewer status if I think 
they are ready for it.

One of the most dysfunctional bits of the project is the way that people can do 
huge amounts of uncontentious stuff with very little interaction with others. I 
sometimes trawl the accounts who have recently created their 100th article and 
where appropriate set them as auto patrolled, often when i look at their talk 
pages the interactions they've had have been minimal. 

Regards

Jonathan Cardy


 On 5 Feb 2015, at 00:11, Keilana keilanaw...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I love the thanks button, it's such an easy way to add more positivity to the 
 wiki and the world. :)
 
 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Katherine Casey 
 fluffernutter.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have found myself using the thank button more than usual recently. In 
 the middle of all the turmoil that goes on onwiki, a simple hey, that thing 
 you did that you thought no one noticed? Yeah, thanks for doing that goes a 
 long way toward cancelling some of it out.
 
 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:52 PM, LB lightbreath...@gmail.com wrote:
 I agree, Kerry. I try to use the thank button at least once a day.
 
 Lightbreather
 
 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 We talk a lot of about the culture of Wikipedia being negative, critical,
 abrasive etc; this is a turn-off to a lot of women (and also to a lot of
 men). But what can we do to change that? Well, I thought about the way that
 postings get Liked on Facebook. Indeed, most postings get many Likes on
 Facebook. It seems if you read something and appreciate the post in any way
 (which includes when you agree with the poster that it is unhappy matter 
 and
 hence unlikeable matter), you click Like.
 
 Well, I decided to try it on Wikipedia. Now, when I run through my 
 watchlist
 (which I do most mornings), instead of just looking for what's wrong and
 needs to be fixed, instead if I see a positive contribution to an article,
 even a small one, I thank the contributor for the edit.
 
 And if I notice I am thanking someone quite a bit, I send them some 
 Wikilove
 or a Barnstar. I notice a small increase in the number of thanks I am
 receiving. While I realise this may be simple reciprocation, I'd like to
 think I might be creating a small culture of appreciation in my topic 
 space,
 hoping that people choose to Pay It Forward.
 
 So, that's my suggestion. Try thanking people on-wiki in the various ways
 available.  Become part of the niceness culture that we'd like Wikipedia to
 become known for.
 
 Kerry
 
 
 
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Re: [Gendergap] Thank someone today.

2015-02-05 Thread Neotarf
I'm going to go out on a limb here, and suggest that WikiLove Kittens are
not empowering.

I too find a creep factor with the thing, especially since it seems to be
popular with youngsters. This may not be the healthiest way for adults to
be interacting with children.

The nicest thank you I ever got was from someone at another language wiki
who took the time to come to the English wiki and write a note on my talk
page about a translation I did.  It seems they had always wanted to
translate that particular article to English, but didn't feel their English
skills were good enough.

On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 11:43 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Kerry, I'm pretty sure you didn't know this, but you are amongst the top
 10 thankers on English Wikipedia - and THANK YOU for doing that.


 http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:F%C3%A6/sandboxoldid=149050523
 - now being discussed on Wikimedia-L mailing list.

 (This is the result of a script that Fae ran on enwiki and commons - it
 would be really interesting to see how other projects do as well.)

 I do confess that I've started to use the number of thanks and on- or
 off-wiki positive messages about an action to reassure me that a chosen
 comment is on-point (or sometimes to recognize that it's not on-point,
 too).  This kind of feedback is a lot more useful than I'd initially
 expected, and I'm working up to giving more of them.  My initial restraint
 was probably linked to my unwillingness to use the Wikilove extension -
 nothing wrong with it except for using the word Wikilove in every edit
 summary, which I find really creepy.

 Risker/Anne

 On 5 February 2015 at 05:04, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well Jonathan, thanks for doing that! I am not an administrator, so I
 couldn't do those things you mentioned, but I often think that in some
 cases I wish I could do more than just thank the person. I know however
 that I was very suspicious of anyone posting on my talk page in the
 beginning, so I feel like the generic thanks is the best way to approach
 someone the first time. If someone comes across my watchlist a few times
 with I perceive as a theme, then I will tip them about how to do basic
 things like create a category on commons for related images, or fill out
 the Wikidata item, or browse similar items in Reasonator.

 On Thu, Feb 5, 2015 at 10:50 AM, WereSpielChequers 
 werespielchequ...@gmail.com wrote:

 Much of my editing on wikipedia is minor typo fixes, the sort that a
 normal spellchecker won't pick up. I secularised lots of sports teams from
 having mangers to managers and also dealt with the problem of rock stars
 preforming songs in sports stadiums. I used to be able to do hundreds of
 such edits without anyone seeming to notice any except where they had
 missed the l from public. But now I get thanked for several percent of my
 edits, I think that is a really positive change on the pedia, of course the
 metrics people will take it as a negative because some of those thanks will
 be replacing edits, so the short term effect on the editing level is likely
 to be slightly negative.

 I do tend to check out who has thanked me and make sure the newbies who
 do so have had a welcome and give the ignored old hands reviewer status if
 I think they are ready for it.

 One of the most dysfunctional bits of the project is the way that people
 can do huge amounts of uncontentious stuff with very little interaction
 with others. I sometimes trawl the accounts who have recently created their
 100th article and where appropriate set them as auto patrolled, often when
 i look at their talk pages the interactions they've had have been minimal.

 Regards

 Jonathan Cardy


 On 5 Feb 2015, at 00:11, Keilana keilanaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I love the thanks button, it's such an easy way to add more positivity
 to the wiki and the world. :)

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Katherine Casey 
 fluffernutter.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have found myself using the thank button more than usual recently.
 In the middle of all the turmoil that goes on onwiki, a simple hey, that
 thing you did that you thought no one noticed? Yeah, thanks for doing that
 goes a long way toward cancelling some of it out.

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:52 PM, LB lightbreath...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree, Kerry. I try to use the thank button at least once a day.

 Lightbreather

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com
  wrote:


 We talk a lot of about the culture of Wikipedia being negative,
 critical,
 abrasive etc; this is a turn-off to a lot of women (and also to a lot
 of
 men). But what can we do to change that? Well, I thought about the
 way that
 postings get Liked on Facebook. Indeed, most postings get many Likes
 on
 Facebook. It seems if you read something and appreciate the post in
 any way
 (which includes when you agree with the poster that it is unhappy
 matter and
 hence unlikeable matter), you click Like.

 Well, I 

Re: [Gendergap] Thank someone today.

2015-02-04 Thread LB
I agree, Kerry. I try to use the thank button at least once a day.

Lightbreather

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com
wrote:


 We talk a lot of about the culture of Wikipedia being negative, critical,
 abrasive etc; this is a turn-off to a lot of women (and also to a lot of
 men). But what can we do to change that? Well, I thought about the way that
 postings get Liked on Facebook. Indeed, most postings get many Likes on
 Facebook. It seems if you read something and appreciate the post in any way
 (which includes when you agree with the poster that it is unhappy matter
 and
 hence unlikeable matter), you click Like.

 Well, I decided to try it on Wikipedia. Now, when I run through my
 watchlist
 (which I do most mornings), instead of just looking for what's wrong and
 needs to be fixed, instead if I see a positive contribution to an article,
 even a small one, I thank the contributor for the edit.

 And if I notice I am thanking someone quite a bit, I send them some
 Wikilove
 or a Barnstar. I notice a small increase in the number of thanks I am
 receiving. While I realise this may be simple reciprocation, I'd like to
 think I might be creating a small culture of appreciation in my topic
 space,
 hoping that people choose to Pay It Forward.

 So, that's my suggestion. Try thanking people on-wiki in the various ways
 available.  Become part of the niceness culture that we'd like Wikipedia to
 become known for.

 Kerry



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Re: [Gendergap] Thank someone today.

2015-02-04 Thread Katherine Casey
I have found myself using the thank button more than usual recently. In
the middle of all the turmoil that goes on onwiki, a simple hey, that
thing you did that you thought no one noticed? Yeah, thanks for doing that
goes a long way toward cancelling some of it out.

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:52 PM, LB lightbreath...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree, Kerry. I try to use the thank button at least once a day.

 Lightbreather

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 We talk a lot of about the culture of Wikipedia being negative, critical,
 abrasive etc; this is a turn-off to a lot of women (and also to a lot of
 men). But what can we do to change that? Well, I thought about the way
 that
 postings get Liked on Facebook. Indeed, most postings get many Likes on
 Facebook. It seems if you read something and appreciate the post in any
 way
 (which includes when you agree with the poster that it is unhappy matter
 and
 hence unlikeable matter), you click Like.

 Well, I decided to try it on Wikipedia. Now, when I run through my
 watchlist
 (which I do most mornings), instead of just looking for what's wrong and
 needs to be fixed, instead if I see a positive contribution to an article,
 even a small one, I thank the contributor for the edit.

 And if I notice I am thanking someone quite a bit, I send them some
 Wikilove
 or a Barnstar. I notice a small increase in the number of thanks I am
 receiving. While I realise this may be simple reciprocation, I'd like to
 think I might be creating a small culture of appreciation in my topic
 space,
 hoping that people choose to Pay It Forward.

 So, that's my suggestion. Try thanking people on-wiki in the various ways
 available.  Become part of the niceness culture that we'd like Wikipedia
 to
 become known for.

 Kerry



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Re: [Gendergap] Thank someone today.

2015-02-04 Thread Keilana
I love the thanks button, it's such an easy way to add more positivity to
the wiki and the world. :)

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Katherine Casey 
fluffernutter.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have found myself using the thank button more than usual recently. In
 the middle of all the turmoil that goes on onwiki, a simple hey, that
 thing you did that you thought no one noticed? Yeah, thanks for doing that
 goes a long way toward cancelling some of it out.

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:52 PM, LB lightbreath...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree, Kerry. I try to use the thank button at least once a day.

 Lightbreather

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 We talk a lot of about the culture of Wikipedia being negative, critical,
 abrasive etc; this is a turn-off to a lot of women (and also to a lot of
 men). But what can we do to change that? Well, I thought about the way
 that
 postings get Liked on Facebook. Indeed, most postings get many Likes on
 Facebook. It seems if you read something and appreciate the post in any
 way
 (which includes when you agree with the poster that it is unhappy matter
 and
 hence unlikeable matter), you click Like.

 Well, I decided to try it on Wikipedia. Now, when I run through my
 watchlist
 (which I do most mornings), instead of just looking for what's wrong and
 needs to be fixed, instead if I see a positive contribution to an
 article,
 even a small one, I thank the contributor for the edit.

 And if I notice I am thanking someone quite a bit, I send them some
 Wikilove
 or a Barnstar. I notice a small increase in the number of thanks I am
 receiving. While I realise this may be simple reciprocation, I'd like to
 think I might be creating a small culture of appreciation in my topic
 space,
 hoping that people choose to Pay It Forward.

 So, that's my suggestion. Try thanking people on-wiki in the various ways
 available.  Become part of the niceness culture that we'd like Wikipedia
 to
 become known for.

 Kerry



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Re: [Gendergap] Thank someone today.

2015-02-04 Thread Sydney Poore
I agree. I'm especially thrilled when someone notices an article about a
notable woman and thanks me for creating it. I usually thank them back!!!

Can't have too much wikilove!

Sydney
On Feb 4, 2015 7:12 PM, Keilana keilanaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I love the thanks button, it's such an easy way to add more positivity to
 the wiki and the world. :)

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:04 PM, Katherine Casey 
 fluffernutter.w...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have found myself using the thank button more than usual recently. In
 the middle of all the turmoil that goes on onwiki, a simple hey, that
 thing you did that you thought no one noticed? Yeah, thanks for doing that
 goes a long way toward cancelling some of it out.

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:52 PM, LB lightbreath...@gmail.com wrote:

 I agree, Kerry. I try to use the thank button at least once a day.

 Lightbreather

 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com
 wrote:


 We talk a lot of about the culture of Wikipedia being negative,
 critical,
 abrasive etc; this is a turn-off to a lot of women (and also to a lot of
 men). But what can we do to change that? Well, I thought about the way
 that
 postings get Liked on Facebook. Indeed, most postings get many Likes on
 Facebook. It seems if you read something and appreciate the post in any
 way
 (which includes when you agree with the poster that it is unhappy
 matter and
 hence unlikeable matter), you click Like.

 Well, I decided to try it on Wikipedia. Now, when I run through my
 watchlist
 (which I do most mornings), instead of just looking for what's wrong and
 needs to be fixed, instead if I see a positive contribution to an
 article,
 even a small one, I thank the contributor for the edit.

 And if I notice I am thanking someone quite a bit, I send them some
 Wikilove
 or a Barnstar. I notice a small increase in the number of thanks I am
 receiving. While I realise this may be simple reciprocation, I'd like to
 think I might be creating a small culture of appreciation in my topic
 space,
 hoping that people choose to Pay It Forward.

 So, that's my suggestion. Try thanking people on-wiki in the various
 ways
 available.  Become part of the niceness culture that we'd like
 Wikipedia to
 become known for.

 Kerry



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Re: [Gendergap] Thank someone today.

2015-02-04 Thread Michael J. Lowrey
Although I was ranting earlier today about the attaboy culture of
meaningless little rewards and certificates that corporations substitute
for any substantive kind of reward, like pay or better treatment, I concur
with your message. If it's a good edit, we need to cultivate that kind of
thing by letting the editor (especially a total stranger) know how much it
is appreciated.


On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 5:50 PM, Kerry Raymond kerry.raym...@gmail.com
wrote:


 We talk a lot of about the culture of Wikipedia being negative, critical,
 abrasive etc; this is a turn-off to a lot of women (and also to a lot of
 men). But what can we do to change that? Well, I thought about the way that
 postings get Liked on Facebook. Indeed, most postings get many Likes on
 Facebook. It seems if you read something and appreciate the post in any way
 (which includes when you agree with the poster that it is unhappy matter
 and
 hence unlikeable matter), you click Like.

 Well, I decided to try it on Wikipedia. Now, when I run through my
 watchlist
 (which I do most mornings), instead of just looking for what's wrong and
 needs to be fixed, instead if I see a positive contribution to an article,
 even a small one, I thank the contributor for the edit.

 And if I notice I am thanking someone quite a bit, I send them some
 Wikilove
 or a Barnstar. I notice a small increase in the number of thanks I am
 receiving. While I realise this may be simple reciprocation, I'd like to
 think I might be creating a small culture of appreciation in my topic
 space,
 hoping that people choose to Pay It Forward.

 So, that's my suggestion. Try thanking people on-wiki in the various ways
 available.  Become part of the niceness culture that we'd like Wikipedia to
 become known for.

 Kerry



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