Re: project ACE.

[Henk P. Penning]

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:


Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2018 12:59:17 +0100
From: jan iversen 
To: general@attic.apache.org
Subject: Re: project ACE.



I am unhappy about yet another manual step to the retirement process. the
process alreday contain quite a number of steps that could/should be
automated
, like e.x:
- update authorization files
- find maillists, wiki etc in order to tell infra what to close down


  Agree ; but ..., automating that stuff could/should be based
  on authorative, machine-readable info provided by attic.a.o/ ...
  PMC Attic is the only body that can say /when/ the move
  is/was actually started and when it was 'done'.
  I don't see how stuff can be automated reliably without
  such info.

  I just looked at the list again and it is enormous.
  A project should [IMHO] have a state {podling, tlp, attic}
  and graduation/attic-ing should be as easy as
  changing the state. Nevermind.


people wanting to know when a retirement happened can e.g. look at svn log
for the auth files.


  Hm ;

  I will "roll my own" if there is no wider interest ; that's ok.


jan i


  Thanks ; regards,

  Henk Penning

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Re: project ACE.

[jan iversen]

On Mon, 12 Feb 2018 at 12:52, Henk P. Penning  wrote:

> On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 at 12:40, Henk P. Penning  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> >>PS To get the "attic'ed" project list, I parse
> >>
> >>  svn ls https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/attic/site/docs/projects
> >>
> >>stripping '.html', and ignoring entries with a '-' ;
> >>is there a better way ?
> >
> > I normally use the xdocs directory that is xml and easier to parse.
>
>I don't see a 'date' field in the xdocs files ;
>I really would like to have a list like
>
>  [ { dist_path : "beehive"
>, to_attic  : "2010-01-15"
>}
>  , ...
>  ]
>
>Because "moving stuff into the attic", is what PMC Attic does,
>it is fine to provide this info (authoratively) on attic.a.o/,
>rather than somewhere else.
>Other (automated) processes can fetch it from "attic.a.o/".
>
>It means (yet) another item in the "process" list ... ;
>is that a problem ? I will provide an initial file, of course.
>
> I am unhappy about yet another manual step to the retirement process. the
process alreday contain quite a number of steps that could/should be
automated
, like e.x:
- update authorization files
- find maillists, wiki etc in order to tell infra what to close down

people wanting to know when a retirement happened can e.g. look at svn log
for the auth files.

rgds
jan i

>Ideas ?
>
>Thanks ; regards,
>
>Henk Penning
>
>    _
> Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403_/ \_
> Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
> Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
> http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/
>
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Re: project ACE.

[Henk P. Penning]

On Tue, 6 Feb 2018, jan iversen wrote:

On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 at 12:40, Henk P. Penning  wrote:


Hi,


   PS To get the "attic'ed" project list, I parse

 svn ls https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/attic/site/docs/projects

   stripping '.html', and ignoring entries with a '-' ;
   is there a better way ?


I normally use the xdocs directory that is xml and easier to parse.


  I don't see a 'date' field in the xdocs files ;
  I really would like to have a list like

[ { dist_path : "beehive"
  , to_attic  : "2010-01-15"
  }
, ...
]

  Because "moving stuff into the attic", is what PMC Attic does,
  it is fine to provide this info (authoratively) on attic.a.o/,
  rather than somewhere else.
  Other (automated) processes can fetch it from "attic.a.o/".

  It means (yet) another item in the "process" list ... ;
  is that a problem ? I will provide an initial file, of course.

  Ideas ?

  Thanks ; regards,

  Henk Penning

   _
Henk P. Penning, ICT-beta R Uithof MG-403_/ \_
Faculty of Science, Utrecht UniversityT +31 30 253 4106 / \_/ \
Leuvenlaan 4, 3584CE Utrecht, NL  F +31 30 253 4553 \_/ \_/
http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~penni101/ M penn...@uu.nl \_/