Re: [brlug-general] email list management

[Shannon Roddy]

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:00 AM, michael dolan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've got a small local business, and twice a month we send out an email to
> our customers announcing sales, specials, etc.  Just to be clear, this is in
> no way spam.  It is 100% opt-in, and I make it really easy for people to be
> removed.

Even with it being opt-in and having easy removal, you probably want
to think about where you send from.  I can't remember where I saw this
lately, but folks that send opt-in messages are getting nailed by
google/yahoo/etc. from people clicking the "this is spam" buttons when
they decide they don't want to receive their opted-in email anymore.
This can result in the domain or MX being blacklisted.

I'll have to think about it for a while and see if I can remember
where the thread or reference is.  So, you may want to set up a
specific domain for your newsletter just in case.

> The only way people can currently get on the list is to physically
> write their name and email address on a sheet of paper in the store, or
> email us from the account they want added.  We do not offer anything other
> than the information contained in the emails in return for the address (we
> don't offer a discount for "members" or anything like that).  We never
> require an email address (or even ask for one) for any sort of transaction.
> Right now, I'm managing the list by hand, but the list has grown to around
> 1000 names, and It's getting laborious.
>
> I'd like something that fits the following criteria:
> 1. ability to send HTML mail
> 2. automatically remove addresses that bounce and fit certain criteria -
> i.e. remove bounced emails because the address is dead, but not if the box
> is full (if the box is full for 2 months, yes)
> 3. eventually I'd like to put a form on the website to let people add
> themselves to the list
> 4. I can't use listserve software, obviously, because I don't want people
> being able to email the other members of the list
> 5. free as in beer (or at least really, really cheap)
> 6. free as in freedom would be nice, but I'll look at any suggestions
> 7. link at the bottom of the email for people to remove themselves
> 8. I just started using google apps (the free version), so if it could work
> with that it would be great
>
> I'm sure I'm forgetting something, so if anyone has any other suggestions or
> things to look for, please let me know.
> Michael Dolan
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Re: [brlug-general] email list management

[Dustin Puryear]

Ah, so you are trying to do more of a merge than just a simple mailing
list. Got it. Mailman *should* be able to do that. If you look in the
config you'll see that it has templates for EVERYTHING that it does. You
would need to tweak the template being used for your sales mailing list.

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michael dolan wrote:
> Pommo looks really nice, but currently doesn't clean bounced addresses. 
> The personalized emails are a very nice touch.  In 5 seconds of
> research, it looks like mailman can put the recipients address in the
> footer, but not in the body.
> Anybody have experience with personalization in mailman?  Anybody used
> both Pommo and Mailman and prefer one over the other?
> Michael
> 
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Nashid Hasan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> 
> Pommo is another open source mailing list manager. http://pommo.org
> 
> The interface is nice. You can test drive it online.
> 
> -Nash
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/22/08 10:58 AM, "-ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I'll second mailman.  It'll do everything on your list.  Sending
> html mail
> is probably a function of your MUA though.  We converted all our
> majordomo
> lists to mailman a few years ago.  Mailman seemed to be better
> supported
> and had more features... included an integrated web interface.
>  Majordomo
> makes you install an add-on package, Majorcool to get a web
> interface.
> 
> Haha... you can download majordomo as a compressed uuencoded
> file on their
> site!  I'd stick with mailman for a new install.
> http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/
> 
> ray
> 
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, michael dolan wrote:
> 
> > I've got a small local business, and twice a month we send out
> an email to
> > our customers announcing sales, specials, etc.  *Just to be
> clear, this is
> > in no way spam.*  It is 100% opt-in, and I make it really easy
> for people to
> > be removed.  The only way people can currently get on the list
> is to
> > physically write their name and email address on a sheet of
> paper in the
> > store, or email us from the account they want added.  We do not
> offer
> > anything other than the information contained in the emails in
> return for
> > the address (we don't offer a discount for "members" or
> anything like
> > that).  We never require an email address (or even ask for one)
> for any sort
> > of transaction.  Right now, I'm managing the list by hand, but
> the list has
> > grown to around 1000 names, and It's getting laborious.
> 
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Re: [brlug-general] email list management

[michael dolan]

Pommo looks really nice, but currently doesn't clean bounced addresses.  The
personalized emails are a very nice touch.  In 5 seconds of research, it
looks like mailman can put the recipients address in the footer, but not in
the body.
Anybody have experience with personalization in mailman?  Anybody used both
Pommo and Mailman and prefer one over the other?
Michael

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Nashid Hasan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  Pommo is another open source mailing list manager. http://pommo.org
>
> The interface is nice. You can test drive it online.
>
> -Nash
>
>
>
> On 8/22/08 10:58 AM, "-ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'll second mailman.  It'll do everything on your list.  Sending html mail
> is probably a function of your MUA though.  We converted all our majordomo
> lists to mailman a few years ago.  Mailman seemed to be better supported
> and had more features... included an integrated web interface.  Majordomo
> makes you install an add-on package, Majorcool to get a web interface.
>
> Haha... you can download majordomo as a compressed uuencoded file on their
> site!  I'd stick with mailman for a new install.
> http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/
>
> ray
>
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, michael dolan wrote:
>
> > I've got a small local business, and twice a month we send out an email
> to
> > our customers announcing sales, specials, etc.  *Just to be clear, this
> is
> > in no way spam.*  It is 100% opt-in, and I make it really easy for people
> to
> > be removed.  The only way people can currently get on the list is to
> > physically write their name and email address on a sheet of paper in the
> > store, or email us from the account they want added.  We do not offer
> > anything other than the information contained in the emails in return for
> > the address (we don't offer a discount for "members" or anything like
> > that).  We never require an email address (or even ask for one) for any
> sort
> > of transaction.  Right now, I'm managing the list by hand, but the list
> has
> > grown to around 1000 names, and It's getting laborious.
>
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Re: [brlug-general] email list management

[michael dolan]

All right, it seems like mailman is the way to go!  It's funny, because
mailman was the only option I had heard of or looked at when I started
thinking about this.
Thanks for all of the responses.
Michael

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:58 AM, -ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I'll second mailman.  It'll do everything on your list.  Sending html mail
> is probably a function of your MUA though.  We converted all our majordomo
> lists to mailman a few years ago.  Mailman seemed to be better supported
> and had more features... included an integrated web interface.  Majordomo
> makes you install an add-on package, Majorcool to get a web interface.
>
> Haha... you can download majordomo as a compressed uuencoded file on their
> site!  I'd stick with mailman for a new install.
> http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/
>
> ray
>
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, michael dolan wrote:
>
> > I've got a small local business, and twice a month we send out an email
> to
> > our customers announcing sales, specials, etc.  *Just to be clear, this
> is
> > in no way spam.*  It is 100% opt-in, and I make it really easy for people
> to
> > be removed.  The only way people can currently get on the list is to
> > physically write their name and email address on a sheet of paper in the
> > store, or email us from the account they want added.  We do not offer
> > anything other than the information contained in the emails in return for
> > the address (we don't offer a discount for "members" or anything like
> > that).  We never require an email address (or even ask for one) for any
> sort
> > of transaction.  Right now, I'm managing the list by hand, but the list
> has
> > grown to around 1000 names, and It's getting laborious.
>
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Re: [brlug-general] email list management

[Nashid Hasan]

Pommo is another open source mailing list manager. http://pommo.org

The interface is nice. You can test drive it online.

-Nash


On 8/22/08 10:58 AM, "-ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> I'll second mailman.  It'll do everything on your list.  Sending html mail
> is probably a function of your MUA though.  We converted all our majordomo
> lists to mailman a few years ago.  Mailman seemed to be better supported
> and had more features... included an integrated web interface.  Majordomo
> makes you install an add-on package, Majorcool to get a web interface.
> 
> Haha... you can download majordomo as a compressed uuencoded file on their
> site!  I'd stick with mailman for a new install.
> http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/
> 
> ray
> 
> On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, michael dolan wrote:
> 
>> > I've got a small local business, and twice a month we send out an email to
>> > our customers announcing sales, specials, etc.  *Just to be clear, this is
>> > in no way spam.*  It is 100% opt-in, and I make it really easy for people
>> to
>> > be removed.  The only way people can currently get on the list is to
>> > physically write their name and email address on a sheet of paper in the
>> > store, or email us from the account they want added.  We do not offer
>> > anything other than the information contained in the emails in return for
>> > the address (we don't offer a discount for "members" or anything like
>> > that).  We never require an email address (or even ask for one) for any
>> sort
>> > of transaction.  Right now, I'm managing the list by hand, but the list has
>> > grown to around 1000 names, and It's getting laborious.
> 
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Re: [brlug-general] email list management

[Karthik Poobal]

Last time I checked, it was more like email forwarding to multiple  
email addresses than a real mailing list. Google calls it email list.  
No customization or controls available. So, anyone can post the email  
list. I had emailed google asking them if they are planning on adding  
mailman to the google apps and the answer that I got basically said  
maybe in the future. That was almost year and half ago.




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On Aug 22, 2008, at 10:43 AM, michael dolan wrote:

> Karthik (or anybody else with an opinion) - Why is the email list in  
> Google apps crappy?
>
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Joey Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
> wrote:
> > mailman works pretty well for this. You can set it so that only  
> certain
> > email addresses can post OR you can set it to require your manual
> > approval for any submitted email.
> >
> > We use mailman at brlug.net.
> >
>
> Ditto majordomo for NOLUG. I set up a separate list of people  
> allowed to post
> to my restricted lists. Old-school, and a little hard to install,  
> but after
> that it's trouble-free.
>
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Re: [brlug-general] email list management

[-ray]

I'll second mailman.  It'll do everything on your list.  Sending html mail 
is probably a function of your MUA though.  We converted all our majordomo 
lists to mailman a few years ago.  Mailman seemed to be better supported 
and had more features... included an integrated web interface.  Majordomo 
makes you install an add-on package, Majorcool to get a web interface.

Haha... you can download majordomo as a compressed uuencoded file on their 
site!  I'd stick with mailman for a new install. 
http://www.greatcircle.com/majordomo/

ray

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, michael dolan wrote:

> I've got a small local business, and twice a month we send out an email to
> our customers announcing sales, specials, etc.  *Just to be clear, this is
> in no way spam.*  It is 100% opt-in, and I make it really easy for people to
> be removed.  The only way people can currently get on the list is to
> physically write their name and email address on a sheet of paper in the
> store, or email us from the account they want added.  We do not offer
> anything other than the information contained in the emails in return for
> the address (we don't offer a discount for "members" or anything like
> that).  We never require an email address (or even ask for one) for any sort
> of transaction.  Right now, I'm managing the list by hand, but the list has
> grown to around 1000 names, and It's getting laborious.

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Re: [brlug-general] email list management

[michael dolan]

Karthik (or anybody else with an opinion) - Why is the email list in Google
apps crappy?

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Joey Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > mailman works pretty well for this. You can set it so that only certain
> > email addresses can post OR you can set it to require your manual
> > approval for any submitted email.
> >
> > We use mailman at brlug.net.
> >
>
> Ditto majordomo for NOLUG. I set up a separate list of people allowed to
> post
> to my restricted lists. Old-school, and a little hard to install, but after
> that it's trouble-free.
>
> --
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> < Minister of the Gospel | Linux Consultant >
> http://joeykelly.net
>
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Re: [brlug-general] email list management

[Joey Kelly]

> mailman works pretty well for this. You can set it so that only certain
> email addresses can post OR you can set it to require your manual
> approval for any submitted email.
>
> We use mailman at brlug.net.
>

Ditto majordomo for NOLUG. I set up a separate list of people allowed to post 
to my restricted lists. Old-school, and a little hard to install, but after 
that it's trouble-free.

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< Minister of the Gospel | Linux Consultant >
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Re: [brlug-general] email list management

[Karthik Poobal]

What about mailman? I use it with GoogleApps. Unfortunately, the  
mailing list that comes with GoogleApps is crappy.



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On Aug 22, 2008, at 10:00 AM, michael dolan wrote:

> I've got a small local business, and twice a month we send out an  
> email to our customers announcing sales, specials, etc.  Just to be  
> clear, this is in no way spam.  It is 100% opt-in, and I make it  
> really easy for people to be removed.  The only way people can  
> currently get on the list is to physically write their name and  
> email address on a sheet of paper in the store, or email us from the  
> account they want added.  We do not offer anything other than the  
> information contained in the emails in return for the address (we  
> don't offer a discount for "members" or anything like that).  We  
> never require an email address (or even ask for one) for any sort of  
> transaction.  Right now, I'm managing the list by hand, but the list  
> has grown to around 1000 names, and It's getting laborious.
>
> I'd like something that fits the following criteria:
> 1. ability to send HTML mail
> 2. automatically remove addresses that bounce and fit certain  
> criteria - i.e. remove bounced emails because the address is dead,  
> but not if the box is full (if the box is full for 2 months, yes)
> 3. eventually I'd like to put a form on the website to let people  
> add themselves to the list
> 4. I can't use listserve software, obviously, because I don't want  
> people being able to email the other members of the list
> 5. free as in beer (or at least really, really cheap)
> 6. free as in freedom would be nice, but I'll look at any suggestions
> 7. link at the bottom of the email for people to remove themselves
> 8. I just started using google apps (the free version), so if it  
> could work with that it would be great
>
> I'm sure I'm forgetting something, so if anyone has any other  
> suggestions or things to look for, please let me know.
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Re: [brlug-general] email list management

[Dustin Puryear]

mailman works pretty well for this. You can set it so that only certain
email addresses can post OR you can set it to require your manual
approval for any submitted email.

We use mailman at brlug.net.

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michael dolan wrote:
> I've got a small local business, and twice a month we send out an email
> to our customers announcing sales, specials, etc.  *Just to be clear,
> this is in no way spam.*  It is 100% opt-in, and I make it really easy
> for people to be removed.  The only way people can currently get on the
> list is to physically write their name and email address on a sheet of
> paper in the store, or email us from the account they want added.  We do
> not offer anything other than the information contained in the emails in
> return for the address (we don't offer a discount for "members" or
> anything like that).  We never require an email address (or even ask for
> one) for any sort of transaction.  Right now, I'm managing the list by
> hand, but the list has grown to around 1000 names, and It's getting
> laborious.
> 
> I'd like something that fits the following criteria:
> 1. ability to send HTML mail
> 2. automatically remove addresses that bounce and fit certain criteria -
> i.e. remove bounced emails because the address is dead, but not if the
> box is full (if the box is full for 2 months, yes)
> 3. eventually I'd like to put a form on the website to let people add
> themselves to the list
> 4. I can't use listserve software, obviously, because I don't want
> people being able to email the other members of the list
> 5. free as in beer (or at least really, really cheap)
> 6. free as in freedom would be nice, but I'll look at any suggestions
> 7. link at the bottom of the email for people to remove themselves
> 8. I just started using google apps (the free version), so if it could
> work with that it would be great
> 
> I'm sure I'm forgetting something, so if anyone has any other
> suggestions or things to look for, please let me know.
> Michael Dolan
> 
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[brlug-general] email list management

[michael dolan]

I've got a small local business, and twice a month we send out an email to
our customers announcing sales, specials, etc.  *Just to be clear, this is
in no way spam.*  It is 100% opt-in, and I make it really easy for people to
be removed.  The only way people can currently get on the list is to
physically write their name and email address on a sheet of paper in the
store, or email us from the account they want added.  We do not offer
anything other than the information contained in the emails in return for
the address (we don't offer a discount for "members" or anything like
that).  We never require an email address (or even ask for one) for any sort
of transaction.  Right now, I'm managing the list by hand, but the list has
grown to around 1000 names, and It's getting laborious.

I'd like something that fits the following criteria:
1. ability to send HTML mail
2. automatically remove addresses that bounce and fit certain criteria -
i.e. remove bounced emails because the address is dead, but not if the box
is full (if the box is full for 2 months, yes)
3. eventually I'd like to put a form on the website to let people add
themselves to the list
4. I can't use listserve software, obviously, because I don't want people
being able to email the other members of the list
5. free as in beer (or at least really, really cheap)
6. free as in freedom would be nice, but I'll look at any suggestions
7. link at the bottom of the email for people to remove themselves
8. I just started using google apps (the free version), so if it could work
with that it would be great

I'm sure I'm forgetting something, so if anyone has any other suggestions or
things to look for, please let me know.
Michael Dolan
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Re: [brlug-general] BerkeleyTIPGlobal-USA September 6 Saturday- Stallman Torvalds Debconf Akademy...

[willhill]

Sounds like fun.  Has anyone coppied this to the LSU ACM?

On Friday 22 August 2008, john_re wrote:
> The First Global-USA SIMULTANEOUS monthly MEETING of the
> Berkeley - Talks Installfest Potluck & ProgrammingParty (TIP)



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[brlug-general] BerkeleyTIPGlobal-USA September 6 Saturday- Stallman Torvalds Debconf Akademy...

[john_re]

Hello Dustin -
Hello BRLUG friends, from Berkeley.  :)

WHO:   YOU, and the GLOBAL GNU(Linux)/BSD FSW COMMUNITY.
WHAT:  The First Global-USA SIMULTANEOUS monthly MEETING of the 
   Berkeley - Talks Installfest Potluck & ProgrammingParty (TIP)
WHEN:  SEPTEMBER 6 SATURDAY 10AM-6PM Pacific Daylight Savings Time
   (Adjust for your local time. Ex: Eastern = Pacific + 3Hrs.)
WHERE: In your local community
WHY:   Learn, Install SW, Communicate with Friends, Produce
HOW:   Bring your laptop & VOIP headset. Download videos before meeting.

Who will be the person to arrange your local simultaneous meeting,
for SEPTEMBER 6, SATURDAY?


=  ATTENDEE & MEETING - FACTS & BENEFITS  =
Whatever aspects of GNU(LINUX)/BSD 
freedom software, technology, or culture you are interested in,
on SEPTEMBER 6, SATURDAY, (& the 1st Saturday of every month)
the place YOU WILL WANT TO BE is at a local meeting of:

The historic First, Simultaneous,
Berkeley GNU(Linux)/BSD Freedom SW/Culture
- Talks, Installfest, Potluck & ProgrammingParty (TIP)
Global-USA monthly meeting.
[10AM-6PM Pacific Daylight Savings Time - Adjust for your local time.]

EVERYONE: Join the group & mailing list at:
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal

The mailing list is open to, and is for everyone: all attendees at all
the local meetings.

Local meeting organizers are doubly encouraged to join the list.


=  HOWTO - ARRANGING A LOCAL MEETING  =
Who will be the person to arrange your local simultaneous meeting,
for SEPTEMBER 6, SATURDAY?

It's really EASY. Just:
1) JOIN the BerkeleyTIP-Global MAILING LIST:
   http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal
   and say "Hi".
2) DECIDE on a LOCATION for the meeting:
 PUBLIC UNIVERSITY/COLLEGE = GREAT.
3) SEND out ANNOUNCEMENTS to email lists.
4) DOWNLOAD the VIDEOS ahead of time.
5) Have the MEETING.  :)

Reply to this email on your mailing list & I'll try to help you out.

Remember, I'm just doing this as a volunteer effort for the community,
so I can only make a little time to help you.  I'll try to help you.  :)
I've included step by step plans here & on the BerkeleyTIP-Global Group
website.  Ask questions to the BerkeleyTIP-Global mailing list, & the
community can help each other out.

Reply to this message on your local list to let me know who will head up
your local meeting effort. Also say "Hi" on the BerkTIPGlobal mailing
list.  :)

Also, if YOU are interested in ATTENDING a local meeting, but aren't up
to being an "organizer" for your local event, please do reply to this
email on your local list, & say you'd be interested in attending, so
potential "organizers" on your list will know people are interested in
attending this event.


=  MEETING ACTIVITIES  =
You will have about 20 educational talks to watch
[from the top minds in the GNU(Linux)/BSD Free SW world].
You will be able to:
Learn, Install or Upgrade, Communicate w/ friends, & Create.

We will watch talks, then get together Globally-USA on IRC & VOIP to
discuss anything & everything.


=  2.5 WEEKS TO ARRANGE LOCAL MEETINGS  =
With 2.5 weeks to go before the meeting, 
you have ample time to arrange a local meeting place & meeting.

I've created a simple plan/ set of instructions for you 
- all you have to do is follow the steps.

There's already been interest expressed in BatonRouge, Boston, Chicago,
Denver, Detroit, Hawaii, Montana, NorthCarolina, Virginia, Canada &
Columbia.  & Berkeley/SiliconValley.  & from FSF, FreeBSD & Debian
people. (And that's just from my small, part time effort on this.)

Who will be the person(s) to arrange your local meeting details?
Maybe it's you. (& it's straightforward, and easy to do.)


=  WHO SHOULD ATTEND  =
Parts of this meeting are relevant for:
Computing & technology professionals, business people, non-profits,
educators, students, scientists, (re)searchers, engineers, artists, &
home & personal computer users.

The meeting is Free, no money $ cost.
- & You might want to make a donation to support its growth/benefits.

I invite you to join our mailing list at
http://groups.google.com/group/BerkTIPGlobal


=  VOLUNTEERING - ME & YOU  =
Note:  I'm putting this together as my volunteer effort for the
community, in my almost nonexistent "free/spare" time.   I've designed
this as a "self-reliant" event.  I'll certainly try to help everyone
out, but this event doesn't depend on me - if _you_ want a successful
event, it depends on _you_ (collectively).  It's a self reliant event, &
I've worked hard to ensure it is easy for you to succeed in making &
having a successful event/ experience(s).

Forward this announcement wherever you think it will do some good: like,
any list you don't see me posting this to.

I'm sending this to about 15 LUGs around the USA, plus come topic
groups, ex BSD, FSF, GNU, Debian, Gentoo, KDE, GNOME, Python.  Feel free
to send this announcement to any community email list where it could do
some good.

I'm sending this to at least