Re: Derby post-incubation cleanups: need a site redirect

2005-08-02 Thread Jean T. Anderson

David Crossley wrote:

Jean T. Anderson wrote:

Could somebody redirect http://incubator.apache.org/derby to 
http://db.apache.org/derby ? Once that redirect is in place, I'll remove 
the files from /www/incubator.apache.org/derby .



Noel recently did that.


oh excellent!

cruft now removed.

 -jean


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Re: Derby post-incubation cleanups: need a site redirect

2005-08-02 Thread David Crossley
Jean T. Anderson wrote:
> Could somebody redirect http://incubator.apache.org/derby to 
> http://db.apache.org/derby ? Once that redirect is in place, I'll remove 
> the files from /www/incubator.apache.org/derby .

Noel recently did that.

> I completed these two steps below and they should be visible the next 
> time the incubator site is built:
> 
> 1. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html
>Moved derby from "Currently Incubating" to "Successfully Incubated" 
> table.
> 2. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/derby.html
> updated derby.cwiki with link to new website

My fault. I re-generated the site, but forgot the final
manual step on the server to do 'svn up'. Done now
and waiting for rsync.

> Below is a check list I started putting together for incubator clean-up:
> 
> [ ] Request repository/karma move from incubator to new location.
> [ ] Move web site from /www/incubator.apache.org/${PROJECT} to new 
> destination
> [ ] Request redirect from old incubator URL to new
> [ ] After redirect is verified working, delete web cruft from
> /www/incubator.apache.org/${PROJECT}
> [ ] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html
> Move project from "Currently Incubating" to "Successfully 
> Incubated" table.
> [ ] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/${PROJECT}.html
> update with link to new website
> 
> Is this list useful to anyone else? and is anything missing that I still 
> need to take care of?

It certainly is Jean. We need to create a "Steps for exit"
document - your list can be a start. We also need a
"Steps for establish" document - Roy sent an email list
to one of the recent entrants.

David

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Derby post-incubation cleanups: need a site redirect

2005-08-02 Thread Jean T. Anderson
Could somebody redirect http://incubator.apache.org/derby to 
http://db.apache.org/derby ? Once that redirect is in place, I'll remove 
the files from /www/incubator.apache.org/derby .


I completed these two steps below and they should be visible the next 
time the incubator site is built:


1. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html
   Moved derby from "Currently Incubating" to "Successfully Incubated" 
table.

2. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/derby.html
updated derby.cwiki with link to new website


Below is a check list I started putting together for incubator clean-up:

[ ] Request repository/karma move from incubator to new location.
[ ] Move web site from /www/incubator.apache.org/${PROJECT} to new 
destination

[ ] Request redirect from old incubator URL to new
[ ] After redirect is verified working, delete web cruft from
/www/incubator.apache.org/${PROJECT}
[ ] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html
Move project from "Currently Incubating" to "Successfully 
Incubated" table.

[ ] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/${PROJECT}.html
update with link to new website

Is this list useful to anyone else? and is anything missing that I still 
need to take care of?


thanks,

 -jean

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[jira] Created: (INCUBATOR-5) status file requirement unclear

2005-08-02 Thread Martin Sebor (JIRA)
status file requirement unclear
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 Key: INCUBATOR-5
 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INCUBATOR-5
 Project: Incubator
Type: Improvement
 Environment: all
Reporter: Martin Sebor


The Incubation Policy mentions two requirements for a status file:

http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Ongoing+Activities%0D
http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Use+of+Apache+Resources

While all podlings have a status Web page, none appears to provide a STATUS 
file in the expected location, even though the latter is mentioned more 
prominently in the policy and reiterated in the weekly Incubator status report 
-- see below:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200507.mbox/[EMAIL 
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It's not clear which of these two files is actually required. This is a request 
to clarify the policy on this question.

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Re: Request for Comment : Harmony Contribution Policy

2005-08-02 Thread Jeffrey Thompson
"Roy T. Fielding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 08/01/2005 06:02:34 PM:

> On Aug 1, 2005, at 10:22 AM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> 
> > Furthermore, my understanding of copyright law is that you can't be 
> > tainted by 'reading' source code years ago and then writing a version 
> > independently.  (In fact, the examples I've heard of are 'minutes 
> > apart' is legally acceptable.)  Of course, patent infringement occurs 
> > whether you've read the code or not.  FWIW, our compiler languages 
> > class here at UC Irvine teaches Java internals - therefore, they'd all 

> > be 'tainted' under this definition - which isn't actually the case.
> 
> I agree with Justin.  BTW, the two sides of the coin are copyright
> and trade secret law.  Copyright does not apply to things that you
> may have learned in the past. 

I think that there is a misunderstanding as to what the requirements are 
for a copyright claim.  If we want to get into a more complete discussion, 
the legal-discuss list would be more appropriate, but in short, the above 
posts are incorrect.  Merely reading another work (in the past, even years 
in the past) is sufficient as a basis for a copyright claim.  Basically, 
to successfully assert a copyright claim, you need to show 2 things . . . 
Access and Substantial Similarity.  Access does not need to be concurrent. 
 There have been cases where the access was MANY, MANY years prior. 

Jeff


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