please re-generate website after updating podling status pages
> Author: twgoetz > Date: Wed Dec 3 02:10:44 2008 > New Revision: 722831 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=722831&view=rev > Log: > Update status: new committers Tong and Jerry > > Modified: > incubator/public/trunk/site-author/projects/uima.xml People seem to be forgetting to re-generate the web site after updating source docs. See instructions here: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html#Project+Status+Updates Anyway, i followed up today for UIMA. -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] [RESULT] Accept ESME into the Apache Incubator
Darren Hague wrote: > As there have been 8 positive votes with no negative votes, I would like > to declare the vote PASSED. > > Votes were received from the following people: > * Bertrand Delacretaz > * Craig L Russell > Daniel Kulp > * Davanum Srinivas > * Ian Holsman > * J Aaron Farr > * Robert Burrell Donkin > * Sylvain Wallez > > Those marked with * are binding votes - please correct me if I am wrong. Plus Daniel Kulp. So welcome to ESME. The next steps are listed here: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Process_Description.html#Acceptance http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Acceptance+By+Incubator http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html I have done the first step for you, i.e. added to http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ReportingSchedule As you are entering very close to report time, i made your first report in January. However if you want to report in December then add yourself to http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2008 -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Important] Podling board reports due December 10
These reports are due at the wiki page by 10 December 2008 so that the Incubator PMC can relay them to the board. See http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/December2008 There is one other project that is recently accepted: ESME You can still report this month if you want to. -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keeping IPMC Membership Up To Date [WAS Re: [VOTE] [RESULT] Accept ESME into the Apache Incubator]
Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > Daniel Kulp wrote: > > David Crossley wrote: > >> > >> You asked earlier how to find out who is on Incubator PMC > >> and hence binding votes: > >> http://people.apache.org/~jim/projects.html#incubator-pmc > > cool (i didn't realise this existed) Yes, very useful. The Clutch table links directly to each project's group from "column J: numberCommitters". There is also his "committers.html". That is also useful for people without svn karma to check whether incoming CLAs are recorded. -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keeping IPMC Membership Up To Date [WAS Re: [VOTE] [RESULT] Accept ESME into the Apache Incubator]
Craig L Russell wrote: > Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > >Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > >>Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > >> > >>>...IIRC (and it's been a while) any member can alter the paperwork > >>>once > >>>there's been a board ACK. can anyone from boardland confirm or deny > >>>this?... > >> > >>I think that's fine, as long as the appropriate lists are kept up > >>to date. > >> > >>But maybe we should designate some official volunteers ("Incubator > >>sheperds") to help the PMC chair for such tasks? The Incubator is a > >>big thing today, having a defined way of sharing the load might help. > > > >+1 > > > >responsiveness can be crucial in maintaining momentum > > > >>I'd suggest electing 3-4 volunteers for that. > > > >+1 Good idea. However any IPMC member with the karma should be able to just jump in and do it. There are a couple of other tasks that have been splipping through the cracks too: Creating the wiki report schedule page at the beginning of each month, and adding new projects to the main ReportingSchedule page. I will go and do that now. -David > I've been monitoring this kind of stuff for a while. In many cases, > new folks don't know their own karma. > > The *only thing* I won't do is ask the board for an ack for a member. > Have to have something for the PMC chair to do. ;-) > > Craig - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clutch color coding
Tim Williams wrote: > > Hi David, Nice to hear from you Tim. > I suppose you can't please everyone, but the red/green colors in this > version are difficult to distinguish - colorblind. It would help to > find a shade of green with lighter/darker tone (e.g. 33cc66)? Anyway, > my nit-picky 2cents. That is a very important point. A quick search found these: http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/publish/color-spectrum-chart.shtml http://www.etre.com/tools/colourblindsimulator/ I will refine the colours today. Thanks for your help. -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clutch color coding
Martijn Dashorst wrote: > IMO they can remain too close or the same. There is no difference in > attention for t<3 or 18 Martijn > > Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > David Crossley wrote: > >> David Crossley wrote: > >> > >> ...I am happy with the result. > >> See http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html > >> after the next publishing rsync > > > > What I'm seeing there is like > > http://people.apache.org/~crossley/temp/clutch-care.png so I assume > > the sync is done? > > > > If that's the case, note that the <3 and <24 colors at the top are the > > same, or too close IMHO. > > > > -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Continuous Build environment?
ok, i've asked rene to take this over and move with it. etch people would need access to continuum or hudson. is there a short answer to what's the diff between the two? our needs are modest. we have an ant based build and a few external dependences. windows is our current build environment as we need .net and .net sdk resources, visual studio bits, as well as specific versions of ant, ant.net, jdk, nunit, junit, velocity, and clover. my goal would be to begin working on this in a 1-2 weeks time frame, and have the builds going asap for 1.0.2 integration and testing. i can make do with our internal build for now, so it isn't a crisis, but i would like this process to become more transparent. is possible / practical? thanks, scott out Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:00 AM, Brett Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As others mentioned just drop a request into the INFRA JIRA, and whether you want to use Continuum or Hudson. Continuum currently runs on Linux - I'm currently investigating setting up a Windows server for the same. Hudson runs on Solaris but I'm sure it could farm builds out to either of those as well if that was set up. Thanks. We will discuss that further and get back when we are getting there. Cheers Niclas - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keeping IPMC Membership Up To Date [WAS Re: [VOTE] [RESULT] Accept ESME into the Apache Incubator]
On Wed, 2008-12-03 at 11:25 +0100, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ...IIRC (and it's been a while) any member can alter the paperwork once > > there's been a board ACK. can anyone from boardland confirm or deny > > this?... > > I think that's fine, as long as the appropriate lists are kept up to date. > > But maybe we should designate some official volunteers ("Incubator > sheperds") to help the PMC chair for such tasks? The Incubator is a > big thing today, having a defined way of sharing the load might help. > > I'd suggest electing 3-4 volunteers for that. I think that sounds like a good idea, and I'd volunteer if needed. Upayavira - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keeping IPMC Membership Up To Date [WAS Re: [VOTE] [RESULT] Accept ESME into the Apache Incubator]
On Dec 3, 2008, at 2:38 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ...IIRC (and it's been a while) any member can alter the paperwork once there's been a board ACK. can anyone from boardland confirm or deny this?... I think that's fine, as long as the appropriate lists are kept up to date. But maybe we should designate some official volunteers ("Incubator sheperds") to help the PMC chair for such tasks? The Incubator is a big thing today, having a defined way of sharing the load might help. +1 responsiveness can be crucial in maintaining momentum I'd suggest electing 3-4 volunteers for that. +1 I've been monitoring this kind of stuff for a while. In many cases, new folks don't know their own karma. The *only thing* I won't do is ask the board for an ack for a member. Have to have something for the PMC chair to do. ;-) Craig - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig L Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
RE: POLOKA proposal in context of existing Apache projects
Hello Sanjiva Following your suggestion I have sent a request to champion the POLOKA project to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am not sure what the next step will be because, obviously, I cannot subscribe to the private lists. Cheers Serge -Original Message- From: Sanjiva Weerawarana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 4:56 PM To: Mankovskii, Serge Cc: general@incubator.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: POLOKA proposal in context of existing Apache projects Hi Serge, Sorry to not have recognized the name .. small world eh? :-). OK now I understand the project - I've been long advocating universities to participate in open source as I see universities as our research division! That's the way we can beat any corporate research division ;-). I'm happy to mentor it and champion it. However, let me try to find another champion though just because of practical time issues .. In terms of sponsor- if you want the WS PMC to sponsor it then you need to make the request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alternatively, we can ask the Incubator PMC to sponsor it .. IMO that's easier and that sort of gives you more flexibility in deciding your final ASF home upon graduation. Sanjiva. Mankovskii, Serge wrote: > Hi Sanjiva, > > It is great to hear from you! I think we've met during EDCIS 2002 in > Beijing. Arno Jacobsen was there too. It looks like you know Peter > Niblett for a while as well! > > It looks like at the movement that we are not able to secure a member of > Apache that would Champion and Sponsor us. I think we need to ask PMC to > do that. Can you help us there? > > Yes, there is code, and a lot of it. But the code is focused on the > pub/sub matching, messaging, and federation. It does not use any of WS > stack at the moment and it does not follow any standards. We are going > to release this code and then work it into the standards stack. It will > bring results of six year research into the open source in a way that > everybody would be able to use it. > > Reference Implementation means that within the project there will be it > will be a distribution that would contain all that WS-N stack requires > and no more or no less than that. To accomplish this objective within > MUSE without totally re-implementing it might be a problem. > > > > Cheers > Serge > > -Original Message- > From: Sanjiva Weerawarana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:45 PM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Cc: Mankovskii, Serge; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: POLOKA proposal in context of existing Apache projects > > Deepal, that's cart before the horse .. this project needs to get to > graduation first :). > > Serge, are you asking for the WS PMC to sponsor this project for > incubation? > > If so, how does this relate to the WS-Notification impl we already have > on > top of Axis2? (Muse?) Having one by no means does not mean there can't > be > another; just trying to understand the relationship. > > Is there code already developed that you're looking to contribute to the > > ASF? Or are you proposing to write new code?? The first line of the > proposal starts with "Poloka will be a standalone reference > implementation > ..". Later text suggests there's working code, but if there is no > working > code the right model is to join the existing community and build on that > > codebase. > > What does "reference implementation" mean? > > [Hi Peter (Niblett)! Long time :) ..] > > Sanjiva. > > Deepal jayasinghe wrote: >> I think we can keep this as the same level as Sandesha and Ramparrt. I >> mean we do not have any modules other than core stuff under Axis2. >> >> Deepal >>> Serge, >>> >>> Unfortunately i won't be able to help much at this time due to time >>> pressures. Hopefully one of my fellow PMC members may be interested > in >>> moving this forward. Best Wishes. >>> >>> thanks, >>> dims >>> >>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Mankovskii, Serge >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Hi Davanum, In our search for a Champion and Sponsor for the Poloka proposal http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/PolokaProposal We looked into the > Savan, ServiceMix, Axis2, and MUSE projects. We find that it makes most sense, so far, to have Poloka as a > project under Axis2. It also makes sense to go into the ServiceMix, that > implements WS-Notification already, but objectives of ServiceMix and POLOKA are somewhat different in respect to POLOKA goal to provide a > stand-alone reference implementation of the spec. Bringing entire ServiceMix in > the picture might be too much. However ServiceMix could benefit from the > POLOKA work in the future. Poloka (http://poloka.org) could create an Axis2 module implementing handlers creating a messaging net
Re: [VOTE] [RESULT] Accept ESME into the Apache Incubator
On Wednesday 03 December 2008 10:30:39 am Craig L Russell wrote: > Hi Dan, > > As PMC chair, you should have the karma to update this information > yourself. Yea, but "policy" kind of states that only the PMC chair of the project should be updating their parts unless the PMC chair is busy/missing. I had sent a note to Noel a couple weeks ago to remind him, but with holidays and such, I didn't really expect to hear much. Basically, I want to give him a chance to not be "missing" before I overstepped the policy and did that. That said, I agree with Robert and that for the Incubator, it's probably good to have a few people helping Noel out. The Incubator is huge. Dan > > Craig > > On Dec 2, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 6:17:18 pm David Crossley wrote: > >> Darren Hague wrote: > >>> As there have been 8 positive votes with no negative votes, I > >>> would like > >>> to declare the vote PASSED. > >>> > >>> Votes were received from the following people: > >>> * Bertrand Delacretaz > >>> * Craig L Russell > >>> Daniel Kulp > >>> * Davanum Srinivas > >>> * Ian Holsman > >>> * J Aaron Farr > >>> * Robert Burrell Donkin > >>> * Sylvain Wallez > >>> > >>> Those marked with * are binding votes - please correct me if I am > >>> wrong. > >> > >> I have not checked. > >> > >> You asked earlier how to find out who is on Incubator PMC > >> and hence binding votes: > >> http://people.apache.org/~jim/projects.html#incubator-pmc > > > > Except Noel has been very bad lately about updating the committe- > > info that is > > used to generate this list. For example, I SHOULD be listed (and > > thus my > > vote binding) since the board did Ack the request to add me, but > > I've not yet > > been added. Kind of particularly bad now that I'm a mentor on two > > podlings, > > but according to that page, my mentor vote wouldn't even be > > binding. :-( > > > > Dan > > > >> We should add that to the Incubator process docs. > >> > >> -David > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -- > > Daniel Kulp > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://dankulp.com/blog > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Craig L Russell > Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo > 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! -- Daniel Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dankulp.com/blog - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] [RESULT] Accept ESME into the Apache Incubator
Hi Dan, As PMC chair, you should have the karma to update this information yourself. Craig On Dec 2, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote: On Tuesday 02 December 2008 6:17:18 pm David Crossley wrote: Darren Hague wrote: As there have been 8 positive votes with no negative votes, I would like to declare the vote PASSED. Votes were received from the following people: * Bertrand Delacretaz * Craig L Russell Daniel Kulp * Davanum Srinivas * Ian Holsman * J Aaron Farr * Robert Burrell Donkin * Sylvain Wallez Those marked with * are binding votes - please correct me if I am wrong. I have not checked. You asked earlier how to find out who is on Incubator PMC and hence binding votes: http://people.apache.org/~jim/projects.html#incubator-pmc Except Noel has been very bad lately about updating the committe- info that is used to generate this list. For example, I SHOULD be listed (and thus my vote binding) since the board did Ack the request to add me, but I've not yet been added. Kind of particularly bad now that I'm a mentor on two podlings, but according to that page, my mentor vote wouldn't even be binding. :-( Dan We should add that to the Incubator process docs. -David - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Daniel Kulp [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dankulp.com/blog - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Craig L Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://db.apache.org/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Clutch color coding
IMO they can remain too close or the same. There is no difference in attention for t<3 or 18 wrote: > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:30 AM, David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> David Crossley wrote: >> ...I am happy with the result. >> See http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html >> after the next publishing rsync > > What I'm seeing there is like > http://people.apache.org/~crossley/temp/clutch-care.png so I assume > the sync is done? > > If that's the case, note that the <3 and <24 colors at the top are the > same, or too close IMHO. > > -Bertrand > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- Become a Wicket expert, learn from the best: http://wicketinaction.com Apache Wicket 1.3.4 is released Get it now: http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/wicket/1.3. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clutch color coding
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 8:30 AM, David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > ...I am happy with the result. > See http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html > after the next publishing rsync What I'm seeing there is like http://people.apache.org/~crossley/temp/clutch-care.png so I assume the sync is done? If that's the case, note that the <3 and <24 colors at the top are the same, or too close IMHO. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Clutch color coding
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:30 AM, David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Crossley wrote: >> Martijn Dashorst wrote: >> > >> > Clutch is an invaluable tool, but with some coloring issues according >> > to me: the current coloring schema is not well suited to alert me, or >> > they alert me at the wrong moment, or don't alert me when things get >> > out of shape. >> >> ... >> Anyway, i will attempt to change to such new colours, >> yet still retain the encouragement. > > I am happy with the result. > See http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html > after the next publishing rsync. > > There are some screenshots for comparison. > http://people.apache.org/~crossley/temp/ Hi David, I suppose you can't please everyone, but the red/green colors in this version are difficult to distinguish - colorblind. It would help to find a shade of green with lighter/darker tone (e.g. 33cc66)? Anyway, my nit-picky 2cents. --tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keeping IPMC Membership Up To Date [WAS Re: [VOTE] [RESULT] Accept ESME into the Apache Incubator]
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> ...IIRC (and it's been a while) any member can alter the paperwork once >> there's been a board ACK. can anyone from boardland confirm or deny >> this?... > > I think that's fine, as long as the appropriate lists are kept up to date. > > But maybe we should designate some official volunteers ("Incubator > sheperds") to help the PMC chair for such tasks? The Incubator is a > big thing today, having a defined way of sharing the load might help. +1 responsiveness can be crucial in maintaining momentum > I'd suggest electing 3-4 volunteers for that. +1 - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Keeping IPMC Membership Up To Date [WAS Re: [VOTE] [RESULT] Accept ESME into the Apache Incubator]
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 10:51 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ...IIRC (and it's been a while) any member can alter the paperwork once > there's been a board ACK. can anyone from boardland confirm or deny > this?... I think that's fine, as long as the appropriate lists are kept up to date. But maybe we should designate some official volunteers ("Incubator sheperds") to help the PMC chair for such tasks? The Incubator is a big thing today, having a defined way of sharing the load might help. I'd suggest electing 3-4 volunteers for that. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Keeping IPMC Membership Up To Date [WAS Re: [VOTE] [RESULT] Accept ESME into the Apache Incubator]
On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 2:20 AM, Daniel Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tuesday 02 December 2008 6:17:18 pm David Crossley wrote: >> Darren Hague wrote: >> > As there have been 8 positive votes with no negative votes, I would like >> > to declare the vote PASSED. >> > >> > Votes were received from the following people: >> > * Bertrand Delacretaz >> > * Craig L Russell >> > Daniel Kulp >> > * Davanum Srinivas >> > * Ian Holsman >> > * J Aaron Farr >> > * Robert Burrell Donkin >> > * Sylvain Wallez >> > >> > Those marked with * are binding votes - please correct me if I am wrong. >> >> I have not checked. >> >> You asked earlier how to find out who is on Incubator PMC >> and hence binding votes: >> http://people.apache.org/~jim/projects.html#incubator-pmc cool (i didn't realise this existed) > Except Noel has been very bad lately about updating the committe-info that is > used to generate this list. For example, I SHOULD be listed (and thus my > vote binding) since the board did Ack the request to add me, but I've not yet > been added. Kind of particularly bad now that I'm a mentor on two podlings, > but according to that page, my mentor vote wouldn't even be binding. :-( noel's been a bit busy recently... IIRC (and it's been a while) any member can alter the paperwork once there's been a board ACK. can anyone from boardland confirm or deny this? - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]