Re: Google Wave - anyone?
Yes, Wookie is a server-side Widget repository and runtime/state management application that implements the Google Wave Gadget APIs; it has an API for connecting to applications that manage participants and contexts, which can include waves but also traditional CMS and intranet groups etc. So it could plug into a Wave Server (c) to handle the gadget management task. S On 30 Jul 2009, at 06:55, Bernd Fondermann wrote: On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 15:58, Scott Wilsonscott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com wrote: Wookie implements the Wave Gadget API, which is one part of a Google Wave system, but not the Wave Protocol itself. It might be interesting if Vysper could make use of Wookie for the wave gadgets part. Is Wookie a server-side technology? Otherwise I don't see the link between both. Maybe it could be the other way round (Wookie using Vysper), if Wookie makes use of the XMPP protocol. Of course, when it comes to implementing Wave, all projects should join efforts. Here is a short wrap-up of what you need to implement Wave: + a Wave client - this is a very fat client, and it's also a XMPP client + a server-side Wave Provider, consisting of (a.) Network Server(s) (b.) Wave Store (c.) Wave Server In this setup, I'd see (a.) as a XMPP server running the Wave Protocol (an extension of XMPP), probably tunneling through HTTP[2]. Compared to implementing XMPP, implementing the Wave protocol extension should be relatively easy. The hard and critical part is definitively (c.), with all the Operational Transformation stuff going on. Google starts open sourcing this at [1]. [1] http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/ [2] http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0124.html Bernd S On 29 Jul 2009, at 12:24, Emmanuel Lecharny wrote: Christian Grobmeier wrote: Hi, Hi, I know my request might be a bit unusual, but is somebody here preparing an idea for implementing the Google Wave Protocol? I might want to follow, if somebody does. You may ask Bernd Fondermann about that. He has started a project called Vysper (http://mina.apache.org/vysper) which is a XMPP server -- -- cordialement, regards, Emmanuel Lécharny www.iktek.com directory.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: Google Wave - anyone?
Yes, Wookie is a server-side Widget repository and runtime/state management application that implements the Google Wave Gadget APIs; it has an API for connecting to applications that manage participants and contexts, which can include waves but also traditional CMS and intranet groups etc. So it could plug into a Wave Server (c) to handle the gadget management task. How complicated would it be to extend Vysper to a Wave Server? I am not deep into Jabber but I think Googles Wave might be one of the next (big) cool things. I am willing to learn and help if other people are interested. Is it possible to build some kind of wave client build on top of wookie? Btw, it feels that wookie is quite similar to Apache Shindig - is it? Best, Christian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Google Wave - anyone?
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 13:30, Christian Grobmeiergrobme...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, Wookie is a server-side Widget repository and runtime/state management application that implements the Google Wave Gadget APIs; it has an API for connecting to applications that manage participants and contexts, which can include waves but also traditional CMS and intranet groups etc. So it could plug into a Wave Server (c) to handle the gadget management task. How complicated would it be to extend Vysper to a Wave Server? As I tried to outline before: The Google Wave protocol, as a XMPP extension, should be relatively easy to implement. We have Message-type stanzas and we are working on the PubSub extension right now, which is needed by the GW-XEP. Implementing the 'rest' of the Wave Provider/Wave Server is a bit more sophisticated job and does not require XMPP Know-How. Bernd I am not deep into Jabber but I think Googles Wave might be one of the next (big) cool things. I am willing to learn and help if other people are interested. you'll find us on d...@mina.apache.org. see you there... Is it possible to build some kind of wave client build on top of wookie? Btw, it feels that wookie is quite similar to Apache Shindig - is it? From the Wookie Proposal: For example, it[the Wookie engine] leverages Apache Shindig (Incubating) to render OpenSocial gadgets. Bernd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Google Wave - anyone?
On 30 Jul 2009, at 12:30, Christian Grobmeier wrote: Btw, it feels that wookie is quite similar to Apache Shindig - is it? IIUC, Wookie contains Shindig to provide OpenSocial Gadget Rendering and I would assume the OpenSocial API. Wookie also contains a W3C gadget renderer. Ian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Google Wave - anyone?
Christian Grobmeier wrote: Yes, Wookie is a server-side Widget repository and runtime/state management application that implements the Google Wave Gadget APIs; it has an API for connecting to applications that manage participants and contexts, which can include waves but also traditional CMS and intranet groups etc. So it could plug into a Wave Server (c) to handle the gadget management task. How complicated would it be to extend Vysper to a Wave Server? I am not deep into Jabber but I think Googles Wave might be one of the next (big) cool things. I am willing to learn and help if other people are interested. If you look at Wave's white papers and draft protocol specifications [1] there's a lot more in a Wave server than XMPP. A Wave server is firstly a document repository that handles concurrent editing by storing/applying/merging transformation operations on these documents. XMPP is there to allow federation, i.e. allowing people from different wave domains to collaborate on the same documents. In this regard, XMPP in Wave is essentially a transport protocol for transformation operations. Is it possible to build some kind of wave client build on top of wookie? No. Wookie addresses a particular aspect of a Wave server, which is some additional APIs for collaborative OpenSocial gadgets [2] Btw, it feels that wookie is quite similar to Apache Shindig - is it? Wookie complements Shinding with an implementation of the Wave gadget API. Hope this makes things clearer. Sylvain [1] http://www.waveprotocol.org/ [2] http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/gadgets/guide.html -- Sylvain Wallez - http://bluxte.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Fwd: foundation: r18818 - /documents/received/eFax-747715537.pdf
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