Re: Missing reports: DeltaCloud, Droids, HISE, ISIS, Kitty, Lucy, Stonehenge, VCL, Wookie

2010-11-16 Thread Ross Gardler
Re wookie

I've notified the community and will report myself if necessary

Sent from my mobile device.

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 That means we're still missing DeltaCloud (promised for tomorrow), Droids, 
 HISE, Stonehenge, VCL, and Wookie.
 
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Re: Dormant projects to mothball? (was missing reports ...)

2010-11-16 Thread Ross Gardler
In the case of Wookie mentors did not communicate the need for a report until 
yesterday and the lead developers are currently in the middle of a conference. 

Of course they should have spotted announcements here, but their still learning 
what to look for and what filters to have. 

I'll do a report later today

Sent from my mobile device.

On 16 Nov 2010, at 02:16, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote:

 Of the currently missing reports:
 
  - Droids appears to have no activity since September.  People asking
 questions are not getting answered.  Perhaps the project should be
 mothballed.
  - HISE has some activity, although October was quiet.
  - Stonehenge appears to have been dead since July, when it made a
 milestone release, and is discussing being archived.  There appears to be
 disappointment over the perceived disappearance of Microsoft and WSO2.
  - VCL appears to be active, with no reason for the lack of a report.
  - Wookie appears to be active, with no reason for the lack of a report.
 
 Other than VCL and Wookie, should all of them be mothballed?  Does the WS
 project want Stonehenge?
 
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Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process

2010-11-16 Thread Niall Pemberton
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:20 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd like to propose that the process for Incubator poddlings to make
 someone a new committer is simplified so that all that is needed are
 votes from poddling committers and that there is no longer any need
 for votes from Incubator PMC members or a separate Incubator PMC vote.

 As justification, this is the process that was in place some years ago
 and it worked fine like that, there is the experiment currently in
 place with some poddlings doing this which seems to be working ok, and
 the board has said they're ok with it.

+1

Niall

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Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process

2010-11-16 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:20 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:

 As Bertrand said, I'm ok with requiring at least one mentor voting and
 notice sent to private@ *afterwards*.  -- justin

 +1 to the combined proposal

+1 from me too.


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Re: Missing reports: DeltaCloud, Droids, HISE, ISIS, Kitty, Lucy, Stonehenge, VCL, Wookie

2010-11-16 Thread Carl Trieloff


It is on the wiki.  DeltaCloud


 Deltacloud

Deltacloud defines a web service API for interacting with cloud service 
providers and resources in those clouds in a unified manner. In 
addition, it consists of a number of implementations of this API for the 
most popular clouds.


Infrastructure:

   *

 Hudson configured to trigger build after commit
 (https://hudson.apache.org/hudson/job/apache-deltacloud-core/)

Latest activity:

   * Deltacloud API was proclaimed as stable and version 0.1.0 was
 released
   * A new EC2 driver for Deltacloud API (in review process)
   * Client improved to be more stable
   * Deltacloud API is now Ruby 1.9 compatible

Current issues:

   * Support for buckets (streaming)

Signed off by mentor: cctrieloff



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Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process

2010-11-16 Thread Matt Benson

On Nov 12, 2010, at 2:20 AM, ant elder wrote:

 I'd like to propose that the process for Incubator poddlings to make
 someone a new committer is simplified so that all that is needed are
 votes from poddling committers and that there is no longer any need
 for votes from Incubator PMC members or a separate Incubator PMC vote.
 
 As justification, this is the process that was in place some years ago
 and it worked fine like that, there is the experiment currently in
 place with some poddlings doing this which seems to be working ok, and
 the board has said they're ok with it.
 

+1

Matt

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Re: [Proposal] Accept Jena into the Incubator

2010-11-16 Thread Nuwan Bandara
A big +1,

I am currently using Jena as a library for semantic web related work at
WSO2. At the moment two of our middle-where products (Mashup server / Data
Services server) uses jena to query RDF data sources. I would be more than
happy to contribute to Jena, and will volunteer for any future work.

-- 
Regards,

/Nuwan


November 2010 Incubator Status Report - Updated

2010-11-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
The updates are the addition of Deltacloud, VCL and Wookie reports.

---

There are no issues for the Board.

New PMC Members: Hadrian Zbarcea, Isabel Drost, Siegfried Goeschi, Mohammad
Nour El-Din (pending his acceptance).  Henning Schmiedehausen has left the
PMC.

Infrastructure has proposed that the Incubator switch over to the new CMS.
It seems that early next year will be the timeframe.

The PMC has voted to submit OODT for TLP status.  Congratulations to the
project.  Kitty, Celix and Stanbol have been voted to start Incubation.

  - Kitty: lightweight Java application server performance diag  admin
utility
  - Celix: OSGi-like C implementation with focus on interoperability with
OSGi
  - Stanbol: software stack and set of components for semantic content
management

Jena, a semantic web framework in Java, is currently being discussed.
Bertrand and other have discussed coordination amongst the semantic content
projects: Clerezza, Stanbol and Jena.

We also found strong support to start an android-interest mailing list to
help build a critical mass of developer support for Android-based projects
at the ASF.

Finally, based on prior discussion with the Board, and the benign results of
subsequent experiments, the Incubator is discussing looser rules for
projects to vote on their own Committers.

Missing reports: Droids, HISE, Stonehenge

  - Droids appears to have no activity since September.  People asking
questions are not getting answered.  Perhaps the project should be
mothballed.
  - HISE has some activity, although October was quiet.
  - Stonehenge appears to have been dead since July, when it made a
milestone release, and is discussing being archived.  There appears to be
disappointment over the perceived disappearance of Microsoft and WSO2.

An e-mail has already been sent to start the discussion of mothballing or
otherwise handling these projects.

---

= ALOIS =

ALOIS stands for Advanced Log Data Insight System and is meant to be a
fully implemented open source SIEM security information and event management
system.

ALOIS is incubating since 22nd October 2010.

Things done since October: * Committers user accounts created * Added more
comments to sourcecode * Added apache license and copyright to sourcecode *
Uploaded sourcecode to
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/alois/trunk * Released
unpublished library libisi to rubygems (https://rubygems.org/gems/libisi)
and rubyforge http://rubyforge.org/projects/libisi/

Next steps todo: * Create developer howto (to explain how to get started and
howto test the sourcecode) * Review code * Create a public demo server *
Create Roadmap (including reschedule preexisting bugs) * Ensure required
libraries/dependencies meet license requirements * Publishing internal
bugreports to https://issues.apache.org/jira/


= Amber =

Amber is a project to develop a Java library which provides an API
specification for, and an unconditionally compliant implementation of the
OAuth v1.0, v1.0a and v2.0 specifications. OAuth is a mechanism that allows
users to authenticate and authorise access by another party to resources
they control while avoiding the need to share their username and password
credentials.

The most important issues that must be addressed before graduation are:

 * attract new users and developers
 * making a release

The Incubator PMC / ASF Board should be aware that:

 * community activity is very low and committers/mentors have been quite
dormant latelly

How has the community developed since the last report

 * No change

How has the project developed since the last report

 * A couple of issues on spec-api have been fixed.
 * Site has been prepared and is being published.
 * Amber has been presented at latest Apache Retreat in UK, a couple of
people talked about possibly contributing OAuth v2.0 implementation.
 * Work being done on signature-api to fix RSA algorithm.


= Bluesky =

(BlueSky has been incubating since 01-12-2008. It is an e-learning solution
designed to help solve the disparity in availability of qualified education
between well-developed cities and poorer regions of China.

Current status of developing the next version of RealClass: * Learning QT
network API, and tried to encapsulate it into new class * Testing
Video/Audio/Screen encode/decode API of FFempeg, including sending and
receiving, this job had almost been done; * Making UI of new system, ongoing
next step:

* Finish message parse and socket plus encode/decode class before Dec 1st *
Finish UI design and commit UI code in 2 weeks


= Chukwa =

We're mostly marking time. We have a dependency on HBase, but their latest
version broke some things we rely on. Waiting for them to fix, (which they
are scheduled to do) pending a Chukwa release. People are still supplying
bug fix patches. We're also still adding documentation.


= Clerezza =

Clerezza (incubating since November 27th, 

RE: Dormant projects to mothball? (was missing reports ...)

2010-11-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
 In general, there is definitely activity [in VCL]. There is the question
of whether  the community has the necessary oomph to graduate. The mentors
have been trying to
 get the podling to decide what they want to do.

Good luck.  Hope that it is ready to graduate.  :-)

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Re: Dormant projects to mothball? (was missing reports ...)

2010-11-16 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 21:16 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
 Of the currently missing reports:
 
   - Droids appears to have no activity since September.  People asking
 questions are not getting answered.  Perhaps the project should be
 mothballed.

Not really sure how you have come to this conclusion, but I have to
admit that there is interest in the project but to less helping hands.

I am ATM to busy to organize my personal (third child born) and my
professional live (new company) that I do not come to spend any time on
any projects let alone Droids.

I wish that people could step up and lead the project out of the
incubator and into a successful project but I myself do not find the
time for that ATM.

salu2
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November 2010 Incubator Status Report - Update 2

2010-11-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
The update is Droids report.

---

The updates are the addition of Deltacloud, VCL and Wookie reports.

---

There are no issues for the Board.

New PMC Members: Hadrian Zbarcea, Isabel Drost, Siegfried Goeschi, Mohammad
Nour El-Din (pending his acceptance).  Henning Schmiedehausen has left the
PMC.

Infrastructure has proposed that the Incubator switch over to the new CMS.
It seems that early next year will be the timeframe.

The PMC has voted to submit OODT for TLP status.  Congratulations to the
project.  Kitty, Celix and Stanbol have been voted to start Incubation.

  - Kitty: lightweight Java application server performance diag  admin
utility
  - Celix: OSGi-like C implementation with focus on interoperability with
OSGi
  - Stanbol: software stack and set of components for semantic content
management

Jena, a semantic web framework in Java, is currently being discussed.
Bertrand and other have discussed coordination amongst the semantic content
projects: Clerezza, Stanbol and Jena.

We also found strong support to start an android-interest mailing list to
help build a critical mass of developer support for Android-based projects
at the ASF.

Finally, based on prior discussion with the Board, and the benign results of
subsequent experiments, the Incubator is discussing looser rules for
projects to vote on their own Committers.

Missing reports: Droids, HISE, Stonehenge

  - Droids appears to have no activity since September.  People asking
questions are not getting answered.  Perhaps the project should be
mothballed.
  - HISE has some activity, although October was quiet.
  - Stonehenge appears to have been dead since July, when it made a
milestone release, and is discussing being archived.  There appears to be
disappointment over the perceived disappearance of Microsoft and WSO2.

An e-mail has already been sent to start the discussion of mothballing or
otherwise handling these projects.

---

= ALOIS =

ALOIS stands for Advanced Log Data Insight System and is meant to be a
fully implemented open source SIEM security information and event management
system.

ALOIS is incubating since 22nd October 2010.

Things done since October: * Committers user accounts created * Added more
comments to sourcecode * Added apache license and copyright to sourcecode *
Uploaded sourcecode to
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/alois/trunk * Released
unpublished library libisi to rubygems (https://rubygems.org/gems/libisi)
and rubyforge http://rubyforge.org/projects/libisi/

Next steps todo: * Create developer howto (to explain how to get started and
howto test the sourcecode) * Review code * Create a public demo server *
Create Roadmap (including reschedule preexisting bugs) * Ensure required
libraries/dependencies meet license requirements * Publishing internal
bugreports to https://issues.apache.org/jira/


= Amber =

Amber is a project to develop a Java library which provides an API
specification for, and an unconditionally compliant implementation of the
OAuth v1.0, v1.0a and v2.0 specifications. OAuth is a mechanism that allows
users to authenticate and authorise access by another party to resources
they control while avoiding the need to share their username and password
credentials.

The most important issues that must be addressed before graduation are:

 * attract new users and developers
 * making a release

The Incubator PMC / ASF Board should be aware that:

 * community activity is very low and committers/mentors have been quite
dormant latelly

How has the community developed since the last report

 * No change

How has the project developed since the last report

 * A couple of issues on spec-api have been fixed.
 * Site has been prepared and is being published.
 * Amber has been presented at latest Apache Retreat in UK, a couple of
people talked about possibly contributing OAuth v2.0 implementation.
 * Work being done on signature-api to fix RSA algorithm.


= Bluesky =

(BlueSky has been incubating since 01-12-2008. It is an e-learning solution
designed to help solve the disparity in availability of qualified education
between well-developed cities and poorer regions of China.

Current status of developing the next version of RealClass: * Learning QT
network API, and tried to encapsulate it into new class * Testing
Video/Audio/Screen encode/decode API of FFempeg, including sending and
receiving, this job had almost been done; * Making UI of new system, ongoing
next step:

* Finish message parse and socket plus encode/decode class before Dec 1st *
Finish UI design and commit UI code in 2 weeks


= Chukwa =

We're mostly marking time. We have a dependency on HBase, but their latest
version broke some things we rely on. Waiting for them to fix, (which they
are scheduled to do) pending a Chukwa release. People are still supplying
bug fix patches. We're also still 

RE: Dormant projects to mothball? (was missing reports ...)

2010-11-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Thorsten Scherler wrote:

 Noel J. Bergman wrote:
   - Droids appears to have no activity since September.  People asking
 questions are not getting answered.  Perhaps the project should be
 mothballed.

 Not really sure how you have come to this conclusion

Which conclusion?  The first two sentences are factual observations from the 
mailing lists.  The last is a question, not a conclusion.

 I am ATM to busy to organize my personal (third child born) and my
 professional live (new company) that I do not come to spend any time
 on any projects let alone Droids.

Congratulations on your new child.  :-)

 I wish that people could step up and lead the project out of the
 incubator and into a successful project but I myself do not find
 the time for that ATM.

Who else is working on it now?  Do you expect to have more time in 2011?

--- Noel



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Re: [IP-CLEARANCE] Bushel Donation to Apache Ant

2010-11-16 Thread Siegfried Goeschl

+1

Siegfried Goeschl

On 11/15/10 1:14 PM, Stefan Bodewig wrote:

Hi all,

the people behind the Bushel project at Google Code[1] which provides
limited OSGi support to Apache Ivy want to donate their codebase for
integration into Ivy.

The code can be found at JIRA issue IVY-1241[2], all three authors
(one of them is Ant PMC member Nicolas Lalevée) signed software grants
and the Ant PMC voted to accept the donation.

The form is already online at
http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/bushel.html  but I forgot to
add it to the index (done now, should become world-visible soonish).

72hrs waiting period for -1s start now.

Thanks

 Stefan

[1] http://code.google.com/p/bushel/

[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVY-1241

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Re: November 2010 Incubator Status Report - Update 2

2010-11-16 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote:
 Missing reports: Droids, HISE, Stonehenge

  - Stonehenge appears to have been dead since July, when it made a
 milestone release, and is discussing being archived.  There appears to be
 disappointment over the perceived disappearance of Microsoft and WSO2.

Just for the sake of completeness, it's not really like Microsoft has
disappeared as MS committers have been the ones suggesting the project
folds down and, despite missing the board report deadline, are active
in ensuring a smooth transition to whatever is next for the project.
As discussed on the Stonehenge mailing list, it just seems the the
project - as it has been scoped - has matured to a point where there
is little value to add (also given the technology landscape wrt WS-I).
It should also be noted that other key contributors (Sun and Spring)
appear to have already left the building.

Now that I am relocated in Redmond (and, incidentally, working next
door to Kamaljit Bath who is one of the main MS contributors), I am
willing to help streamlining this transition and support closing down
the project unless someone in the community is interested in keeping
it alive.

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RE: November 2010 Incubator Status Report - Update 2

2010-11-16 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Gianugo Rabellino wrote:

 Noel J. Bergman wrote:
  - Stonehenge appears to have been dead since July, when it made a
milestone release, and is discussing being archived.  There
appears to be disappointment over the perceived disappearance
of Microsoft and WSO2.

 Just for the sake of completeness, it's not really like Microsoft has
 disappeared as MS committers have been the ones suggesting the project
 folds down and, despite missing the board report deadline, are active
 in ensuring a smooth transition to whatever is next for the project.

I was paraphrasing comments from the mailing list, but accept your input.
:-)

 I am willing to help streamlining this transition and support closing down
 the project unless someone in the community is interested in keeping
 it alive.

Thanks.  :-)

--- Noel



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ip-clearance voting

2010-11-16 Thread Christopher Brind
Hi,

I've been following gene...@incubator for a while and have a question.

When there's a vote on ip-clearance why would one vote against it?
 Presumably one would only vote against it if someone knows some reason why
the codebase cannot be accept for legal reasons, and not for any technical
reason, is that correct?

Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Chris


Re: [IP-CLEARANCE] Bushel Donation to Apache Ant

2010-11-16 Thread Christopher Brind
Apologies if this is not the place to discuss this, but I notice on the
Bushel Google Code page that it only honours require-bundle, is that still
the case?

Are there plans to support import/export package soon (since package level
dependencies are the recommended practice and, IMHO, require-bundle is
frankly an after-thought to OSGi to support the Eclipse crowd).  I think
this has the potential to be a great addition to Ivy, but not until it
supports package level dependencies.

That said, I don't have anything against this happening, just curious and
would like to know that further development is planned. :)

Cheers,
Chris



On 15 November 2010 12:14, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote:

 Hi all,

 the people behind the Bushel project at Google Code[1] which provides
 limited OSGi support to Apache Ivy want to donate their codebase for
 integration into Ivy.

 The code can be found at JIRA issue IVY-1241[2], all three authors
 (one of them is Ant PMC member Nicolas Lalevée) signed software grants
 and the Ant PMC voted to accept the donation.

 The form is already online at
 http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/bushel.html but I forgot to
 add it to the index (done now, should become world-visible soonish).

 72hrs waiting period for -1s start now.

 Thanks

Stefan

 [1] http://code.google.com/p/bushel/

 [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVY-1241

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Re: Dormant projects to mothball? (was missing reports ...)

2010-11-16 Thread Chapuis Bertil
Hello All,

What does the report has to contain? Does the Apache Foundation provides
some guidelines to fill it?

Best regards,

Bertil


On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Thorsten Scherler thors...@apache.orgwrote:

 On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 21:16 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
  Of the currently missing reports:
 
- Droids appears to have no activity since September.  People asking
  questions are not getting answered.  Perhaps the project should be
  mothballed.

 Not really sure how you have come to this conclusion, but I have to
 admit that there is interest in the project but to less helping hands.

 I am ATM to busy to organize my personal (third child born) and my
 professional live (new company) that I do not come to spend any time on
 any projects let alone Droids.

 I wish that people could step up and lead the project out of the
 incubator and into a successful project but I myself do not find the
 time for that ATM.

 salu2
 --
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 consulting, training and solutions
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Re: November 2010 Incubator Status Report - Updated

2010-11-16 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 13:15 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
 Missing reports: Droids

I just added it. Very sorry for the delay.

salu2
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Re: ip-clearance voting

2010-11-16 Thread Bernd Fondermann
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 00:32, Christopher Brind bri...@brindy.org.uk wrote:
 Hi,

 I've been following gene...@incubator for a while and have a question.

 When there's a vote on ip-clearance why would one vote against it?
  Presumably one would only vote against it if someone knows some reason why
 the codebase cannot be accept for legal reasons, and not for any technical
 reason, is that correct?

That is correct.

  Bernd

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Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process

2010-11-16 Thread Martin Cooper
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:20 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd like to propose that the process for Incubator poddlings to make
 someone a new committer is simplified so that all that is needed are
 votes from poddling committers and that there is no longer any need
 for votes from Incubator PMC members or a separate Incubator PMC vote.

What makes me uneasy about this is that, notwithstanding the one
mentor vote, we are basically saying that the bar for ASF
committership can now be defined solely by a group of people who might
have no knowledge, as yet, of the Apache way in general and the way
meritocracy works in particular.

--
Martin Cooper


 As justification, this is the process that was in place some years ago
 and it worked fine like that, there is the experiment currently in
 place with some poddlings doing this which seems to be working ok, and
 the board has said they're ok with it.

   ...ant

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Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process

2010-11-16 Thread Luciano Resende
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote:
 On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:20 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd like to propose that the process for Incubator poddlings to make
 someone a new committer is simplified so that all that is needed are
 votes from poddling committers and that there is no longer any need
 for votes from Incubator PMC members or a separate Incubator PMC vote.

 What makes me uneasy about this is that, notwithstanding the one
 mentor vote, we are basically saying that the bar for ASF
 committership can now be defined solely by a group of people who might
 have no knowledge, as yet, of the Apache way in general and the way
 meritocracy works in particular.

 --
 Martin Cooper


From this discussion, other then the mentor vote, there is still a
need to notify the IPMC and if we give the 72 hrs the IPMC members can
still provide oversight/investigation if they think there is an issue
with the proposed committer. Having said that, we had this process in
the past, and some podlings are already experimenting this process and
it does not seem to have caused any issues. Anyway, just my 0.02c.


-- 
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
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http://lresende.blogspot.com/

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