Re: Missing reports: DeltaCloud, Droids, HISE, ISIS, Kitty, Lucy, Stonehenge, VCL, Wookie
Re wookie I've notified the community and will report myself if necessary Sent from my mobile device. On 16 Nov 2010, at 02:17, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: That means we're still missing DeltaCloud (promised for tomorrow), Droids, HISE, Stonehenge, VCL, and Wookie. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Dormant projects to mothball? (was missing reports ...)
In the case of Wookie mentors did not communicate the need for a report until yesterday and the lead developers are currently in the middle of a conference. Of course they should have spotted announcements here, but their still learning what to look for and what filters to have. I'll do a report later today Sent from my mobile device. On 16 Nov 2010, at 02:16, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: Of the currently missing reports: - Droids appears to have no activity since September. People asking questions are not getting answered. Perhaps the project should be mothballed. - HISE has some activity, although October was quiet. - Stonehenge appears to have been dead since July, when it made a milestone release, and is discussing being archived. There appears to be disappointment over the perceived disappearance of Microsoft and WSO2. - VCL appears to be active, with no reason for the lack of a report. - Wookie appears to be active, with no reason for the lack of a report. Other than VCL and Wookie, should all of them be mothballed? Does the WS project want Stonehenge? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 8:20 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to propose that the process for Incubator poddlings to make someone a new committer is simplified so that all that is needed are votes from poddling committers and that there is no longer any need for votes from Incubator PMC members or a separate Incubator PMC vote. As justification, this is the process that was in place some years ago and it worked fine like that, there is the experiment currently in place with some poddlings doing this which seems to be working ok, and the board has said they're ok with it. +1 Niall ...ant - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:20 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: As Bertrand said, I'm ok with requiring at least one mentor voting and notice sent to private@ *afterwards*. -- justin +1 to the combined proposal +1 from me too. Cheers -- Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer http://www.qi4j.org - New Energy for Java I live here; http://tinyurl.com/2qq9er I work here; http://tinyurl.com/2ymelc I relax here; http://tinyurl.com/2cgsug - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Missing reports: DeltaCloud, Droids, HISE, ISIS, Kitty, Lucy, Stonehenge, VCL, Wookie
It is on the wiki. DeltaCloud Deltacloud Deltacloud defines a web service API for interacting with cloud service providers and resources in those clouds in a unified manner. In addition, it consists of a number of implementations of this API for the most popular clouds. Infrastructure: * Hudson configured to trigger build after commit (https://hudson.apache.org/hudson/job/apache-deltacloud-core/) Latest activity: * Deltacloud API was proclaimed as stable and version 0.1.0 was released * A new EC2 driver for Deltacloud API (in review process) * Client improved to be more stable * Deltacloud API is now Ruby 1.9 compatible Current issues: * Support for buckets (streaming) Signed off by mentor: cctrieloff On 11/15/2010 09:17 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: That means we're still missing DeltaCloud (promised for tomorrow), Droids, HISE, Stonehenge, VCL, and Wookie. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process
On Nov 12, 2010, at 2:20 AM, ant elder wrote: I'd like to propose that the process for Incubator poddlings to make someone a new committer is simplified so that all that is needed are votes from poddling committers and that there is no longer any need for votes from Incubator PMC members or a separate Incubator PMC vote. As justification, this is the process that was in place some years ago and it worked fine like that, there is the experiment currently in place with some poddlings doing this which seems to be working ok, and the board has said they're ok with it. +1 Matt ...ant - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [Proposal] Accept Jena into the Incubator
A big +1, I am currently using Jena as a library for semantic web related work at WSO2. At the moment two of our middle-where products (Mashup server / Data Services server) uses jena to query RDF data sources. I would be more than happy to contribute to Jena, and will volunteer for any future work. -- Regards, /Nuwan
November 2010 Incubator Status Report - Updated
The updates are the addition of Deltacloud, VCL and Wookie reports. --- There are no issues for the Board. New PMC Members: Hadrian Zbarcea, Isabel Drost, Siegfried Goeschi, Mohammad Nour El-Din (pending his acceptance). Henning Schmiedehausen has left the PMC. Infrastructure has proposed that the Incubator switch over to the new CMS. It seems that early next year will be the timeframe. The PMC has voted to submit OODT for TLP status. Congratulations to the project. Kitty, Celix and Stanbol have been voted to start Incubation. - Kitty: lightweight Java application server performance diag admin utility - Celix: OSGi-like C implementation with focus on interoperability with OSGi - Stanbol: software stack and set of components for semantic content management Jena, a semantic web framework in Java, is currently being discussed. Bertrand and other have discussed coordination amongst the semantic content projects: Clerezza, Stanbol and Jena. We also found strong support to start an android-interest mailing list to help build a critical mass of developer support for Android-based projects at the ASF. Finally, based on prior discussion with the Board, and the benign results of subsequent experiments, the Incubator is discussing looser rules for projects to vote on their own Committers. Missing reports: Droids, HISE, Stonehenge - Droids appears to have no activity since September. People asking questions are not getting answered. Perhaps the project should be mothballed. - HISE has some activity, although October was quiet. - Stonehenge appears to have been dead since July, when it made a milestone release, and is discussing being archived. There appears to be disappointment over the perceived disappearance of Microsoft and WSO2. An e-mail has already been sent to start the discussion of mothballing or otherwise handling these projects. --- = ALOIS = ALOIS stands for Advanced Log Data Insight System and is meant to be a fully implemented open source SIEM security information and event management system. ALOIS is incubating since 22nd October 2010. Things done since October: * Committers user accounts created * Added more comments to sourcecode * Added apache license and copyright to sourcecode * Uploaded sourcecode to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/alois/trunk * Released unpublished library libisi to rubygems (https://rubygems.org/gems/libisi) and rubyforge http://rubyforge.org/projects/libisi/ Next steps todo: * Create developer howto (to explain how to get started and howto test the sourcecode) * Review code * Create a public demo server * Create Roadmap (including reschedule preexisting bugs) * Ensure required libraries/dependencies meet license requirements * Publishing internal bugreports to https://issues.apache.org/jira/ = Amber = Amber is a project to develop a Java library which provides an API specification for, and an unconditionally compliant implementation of the OAuth v1.0, v1.0a and v2.0 specifications. OAuth is a mechanism that allows users to authenticate and authorise access by another party to resources they control while avoiding the need to share their username and password credentials. The most important issues that must be addressed before graduation are: * attract new users and developers * making a release The Incubator PMC / ASF Board should be aware that: * community activity is very low and committers/mentors have been quite dormant latelly How has the community developed since the last report * No change How has the project developed since the last report * A couple of issues on spec-api have been fixed. * Site has been prepared and is being published. * Amber has been presented at latest Apache Retreat in UK, a couple of people talked about possibly contributing OAuth v2.0 implementation. * Work being done on signature-api to fix RSA algorithm. = Bluesky = (BlueSky has been incubating since 01-12-2008. It is an e-learning solution designed to help solve the disparity in availability of qualified education between well-developed cities and poorer regions of China. Current status of developing the next version of RealClass: * Learning QT network API, and tried to encapsulate it into new class * Testing Video/Audio/Screen encode/decode API of FFempeg, including sending and receiving, this job had almost been done; * Making UI of new system, ongoing next step: * Finish message parse and socket plus encode/decode class before Dec 1st * Finish UI design and commit UI code in 2 weeks = Chukwa = We're mostly marking time. We have a dependency on HBase, but their latest version broke some things we rely on. Waiting for them to fix, (which they are scheduled to do) pending a Chukwa release. People are still supplying bug fix patches. We're also still adding documentation. = Clerezza = Clerezza (incubating since November 27th,
RE: Dormant projects to mothball? (was missing reports ...)
In general, there is definitely activity [in VCL]. There is the question of whether the community has the necessary oomph to graduate. The mentors have been trying to get the podling to decide what they want to do. Good luck. Hope that it is ready to graduate. :-) --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Dormant projects to mothball? (was missing reports ...)
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 21:16 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Of the currently missing reports: - Droids appears to have no activity since September. People asking questions are not getting answered. Perhaps the project should be mothballed. Not really sure how you have come to this conclusion, but I have to admit that there is interest in the project but to less helping hands. I am ATM to busy to organize my personal (third child born) and my professional live (new company) that I do not come to spend any time on any projects let alone Droids. I wish that people could step up and lead the project out of the incubator and into a successful project but I myself do not find the time for that ATM. salu2 -- Thorsten Scherler thorsten.at.apache.org codeBusters S.L. - web based systems consulting, training and solutions http://www.codebusters.es/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
November 2010 Incubator Status Report - Update 2
The update is Droids report. --- The updates are the addition of Deltacloud, VCL and Wookie reports. --- There are no issues for the Board. New PMC Members: Hadrian Zbarcea, Isabel Drost, Siegfried Goeschi, Mohammad Nour El-Din (pending his acceptance). Henning Schmiedehausen has left the PMC. Infrastructure has proposed that the Incubator switch over to the new CMS. It seems that early next year will be the timeframe. The PMC has voted to submit OODT for TLP status. Congratulations to the project. Kitty, Celix and Stanbol have been voted to start Incubation. - Kitty: lightweight Java application server performance diag admin utility - Celix: OSGi-like C implementation with focus on interoperability with OSGi - Stanbol: software stack and set of components for semantic content management Jena, a semantic web framework in Java, is currently being discussed. Bertrand and other have discussed coordination amongst the semantic content projects: Clerezza, Stanbol and Jena. We also found strong support to start an android-interest mailing list to help build a critical mass of developer support for Android-based projects at the ASF. Finally, based on prior discussion with the Board, and the benign results of subsequent experiments, the Incubator is discussing looser rules for projects to vote on their own Committers. Missing reports: Droids, HISE, Stonehenge - Droids appears to have no activity since September. People asking questions are not getting answered. Perhaps the project should be mothballed. - HISE has some activity, although October was quiet. - Stonehenge appears to have been dead since July, when it made a milestone release, and is discussing being archived. There appears to be disappointment over the perceived disappearance of Microsoft and WSO2. An e-mail has already been sent to start the discussion of mothballing or otherwise handling these projects. --- = ALOIS = ALOIS stands for Advanced Log Data Insight System and is meant to be a fully implemented open source SIEM security information and event management system. ALOIS is incubating since 22nd October 2010. Things done since October: * Committers user accounts created * Added more comments to sourcecode * Added apache license and copyright to sourcecode * Uploaded sourcecode to https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/alois/trunk * Released unpublished library libisi to rubygems (https://rubygems.org/gems/libisi) and rubyforge http://rubyforge.org/projects/libisi/ Next steps todo: * Create developer howto (to explain how to get started and howto test the sourcecode) * Review code * Create a public demo server * Create Roadmap (including reschedule preexisting bugs) * Ensure required libraries/dependencies meet license requirements * Publishing internal bugreports to https://issues.apache.org/jira/ = Amber = Amber is a project to develop a Java library which provides an API specification for, and an unconditionally compliant implementation of the OAuth v1.0, v1.0a and v2.0 specifications. OAuth is a mechanism that allows users to authenticate and authorise access by another party to resources they control while avoiding the need to share their username and password credentials. The most important issues that must be addressed before graduation are: * attract new users and developers * making a release The Incubator PMC / ASF Board should be aware that: * community activity is very low and committers/mentors have been quite dormant latelly How has the community developed since the last report * No change How has the project developed since the last report * A couple of issues on spec-api have been fixed. * Site has been prepared and is being published. * Amber has been presented at latest Apache Retreat in UK, a couple of people talked about possibly contributing OAuth v2.0 implementation. * Work being done on signature-api to fix RSA algorithm. = Bluesky = (BlueSky has been incubating since 01-12-2008. It is an e-learning solution designed to help solve the disparity in availability of qualified education between well-developed cities and poorer regions of China. Current status of developing the next version of RealClass: * Learning QT network API, and tried to encapsulate it into new class * Testing Video/Audio/Screen encode/decode API of FFempeg, including sending and receiving, this job had almost been done; * Making UI of new system, ongoing next step: * Finish message parse and socket plus encode/decode class before Dec 1st * Finish UI design and commit UI code in 2 weeks = Chukwa = We're mostly marking time. We have a dependency on HBase, but their latest version broke some things we rely on. Waiting for them to fix, (which they are scheduled to do) pending a Chukwa release. People are still supplying bug fix patches. We're also still
RE: Dormant projects to mothball? (was missing reports ...)
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: - Droids appears to have no activity since September. People asking questions are not getting answered. Perhaps the project should be mothballed. Not really sure how you have come to this conclusion Which conclusion? The first two sentences are factual observations from the mailing lists. The last is a question, not a conclusion. I am ATM to busy to organize my personal (third child born) and my professional live (new company) that I do not come to spend any time on any projects let alone Droids. Congratulations on your new child. :-) I wish that people could step up and lead the project out of the incubator and into a successful project but I myself do not find the time for that ATM. Who else is working on it now? Do you expect to have more time in 2011? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [IP-CLEARANCE] Bushel Donation to Apache Ant
+1 Siegfried Goeschl On 11/15/10 1:14 PM, Stefan Bodewig wrote: Hi all, the people behind the Bushel project at Google Code[1] which provides limited OSGi support to Apache Ivy want to donate their codebase for integration into Ivy. The code can be found at JIRA issue IVY-1241[2], all three authors (one of them is Ant PMC member Nicolas Lalevée) signed software grants and the Ant PMC voted to accept the donation. The form is already online at http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/bushel.html but I forgot to add it to the index (done now, should become world-visible soonish). 72hrs waiting period for -1s start now. Thanks Stefan [1] http://code.google.com/p/bushel/ [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVY-1241 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: November 2010 Incubator Status Report - Update 2
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Noel J. Bergman n...@devtech.com wrote: Missing reports: Droids, HISE, Stonehenge - Stonehenge appears to have been dead since July, when it made a milestone release, and is discussing being archived. There appears to be disappointment over the perceived disappearance of Microsoft and WSO2. Just for the sake of completeness, it's not really like Microsoft has disappeared as MS committers have been the ones suggesting the project folds down and, despite missing the board report deadline, are active in ensuring a smooth transition to whatever is next for the project. As discussed on the Stonehenge mailing list, it just seems the the project - as it has been scoped - has matured to a point where there is little value to add (also given the technology landscape wrt WS-I). It should also be noted that other key contributors (Sun and Spring) appear to have already left the building. Now that I am relocated in Redmond (and, incidentally, working next door to Kamaljit Bath who is one of the main MS contributors), I am willing to help streamlining this transition and support closing down the project unless someone in the community is interested in keeping it alive. -- Gianugo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
RE: November 2010 Incubator Status Report - Update 2
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: - Stonehenge appears to have been dead since July, when it made a milestone release, and is discussing being archived. There appears to be disappointment over the perceived disappearance of Microsoft and WSO2. Just for the sake of completeness, it's not really like Microsoft has disappeared as MS committers have been the ones suggesting the project folds down and, despite missing the board report deadline, are active in ensuring a smooth transition to whatever is next for the project. I was paraphrasing comments from the mailing list, but accept your input. :-) I am willing to help streamlining this transition and support closing down the project unless someone in the community is interested in keeping it alive. Thanks. :-) --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
ip-clearance voting
Hi, I've been following gene...@incubator for a while and have a question. When there's a vote on ip-clearance why would one vote against it? Presumably one would only vote against it if someone knows some reason why the codebase cannot be accept for legal reasons, and not for any technical reason, is that correct? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Chris
Re: [IP-CLEARANCE] Bushel Donation to Apache Ant
Apologies if this is not the place to discuss this, but I notice on the Bushel Google Code page that it only honours require-bundle, is that still the case? Are there plans to support import/export package soon (since package level dependencies are the recommended practice and, IMHO, require-bundle is frankly an after-thought to OSGi to support the Eclipse crowd). I think this has the potential to be a great addition to Ivy, but not until it supports package level dependencies. That said, I don't have anything against this happening, just curious and would like to know that further development is planned. :) Cheers, Chris On 15 November 2010 12:14, Stefan Bodewig bode...@apache.org wrote: Hi all, the people behind the Bushel project at Google Code[1] which provides limited OSGi support to Apache Ivy want to donate their codebase for integration into Ivy. The code can be found at JIRA issue IVY-1241[2], all three authors (one of them is Ant PMC member Nicolas Lalevée) signed software grants and the Ant PMC voted to accept the donation. The form is already online at http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/bushel.html but I forgot to add it to the index (done now, should become world-visible soonish). 72hrs waiting period for -1s start now. Thanks Stefan [1] http://code.google.com/p/bushel/ [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IVY-1241 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Dormant projects to mothball? (was missing reports ...)
Hello All, What does the report has to contain? Does the Apache Foundation provides some guidelines to fill it? Best regards, Bertil On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Thorsten Scherler thors...@apache.orgwrote: On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 21:16 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Of the currently missing reports: - Droids appears to have no activity since September. People asking questions are not getting answered. Perhaps the project should be mothballed. Not really sure how you have come to this conclusion, but I have to admit that there is interest in the project but to less helping hands. I am ATM to busy to organize my personal (third child born) and my professional live (new company) that I do not come to spend any time on any projects let alone Droids. I wish that people could step up and lead the project out of the incubator and into a successful project but I myself do not find the time for that ATM. salu2 -- Thorsten Scherler thorsten.at.apache.org codeBusters S.L. - web based systems consulting, training and solutions http://www.codebusters.es/
Re: November 2010 Incubator Status Report - Updated
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 13:15 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Missing reports: Droids I just added it. Very sorry for the delay. salu2 -- Thorsten Scherler thorsten.at.apache.org codeBusters S.L. - web based systems consulting, training and solutions http://www.codebusters.es/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: ip-clearance voting
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 00:32, Christopher Brind bri...@brindy.org.uk wrote: Hi, I've been following gene...@incubator for a while and have a question. When there's a vote on ip-clearance why would one vote against it? Presumably one would only vote against it if someone knows some reason why the codebase cannot be accept for legal reasons, and not for any technical reason, is that correct? That is correct. Bernd - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:20 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to propose that the process for Incubator poddlings to make someone a new committer is simplified so that all that is needed are votes from poddling committers and that there is no longer any need for votes from Incubator PMC members or a separate Incubator PMC vote. What makes me uneasy about this is that, notwithstanding the one mentor vote, we are basically saying that the bar for ASF committership can now be defined solely by a group of people who might have no knowledge, as yet, of the Apache way in general and the way meritocracy works in particular. -- Martin Cooper As justification, this is the process that was in place some years ago and it worked fine like that, there is the experiment currently in place with some poddlings doing this which seems to be working ok, and the board has said they're ok with it. ...ant - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Poddling new committer process
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Martin Cooper mart...@apache.org wrote: On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:20 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote: I'd like to propose that the process for Incubator poddlings to make someone a new committer is simplified so that all that is needed are votes from poddling committers and that there is no longer any need for votes from Incubator PMC members or a separate Incubator PMC vote. What makes me uneasy about this is that, notwithstanding the one mentor vote, we are basically saying that the bar for ASF committership can now be defined solely by a group of people who might have no knowledge, as yet, of the Apache way in general and the way meritocracy works in particular. -- Martin Cooper From this discussion, other then the mentor vote, there is still a need to notify the IPMC and if we give the 72 hrs the IPMC members can still provide oversight/investigation if they think there is an issue with the proposed committer. Having said that, we had this process in the past, and some podlings are already experimenting this process and it does not seem to have caused any issues. Anyway, just my 0.02c. -- Luciano Resende http://people.apache.org/~lresende http://twitter.com/lresende1975 http://lresende.blogspot.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org