Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-07 Thread Karl Wright
The ManifoldCF documentation already requires Forrest 0.9-dev.  If
there was a downloadable binary version of 0.9-dev available, I'd be
willing to consider requiring the user to install it.  But that added
step is just too much, I think, to expect people to do as part of an
initial ManifoldCF setup.

Karl

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:22 PM, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:
 Karl Wright wrote:

 Very well; we will discontinue all binary distributions.

 One major problem will therefore be that we rely on Apache Forrest to
 build the documentation pages.  Forrest requires Java 1.5.  The
 availability of documentation in the release will therefore depend on
 the availability of Java 1.5 to the person building it.  Is this
 acceptable?

 It is a tiny isolated problem.

 There are two simple workarounds. People do not
 need to stick with Java 1.5

 http://forrest.apache.org/faq.html#oldjing

 -David

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-07 Thread David Crossley
Karl Wright wrote:
 The ManifoldCF documentation already requires Forrest 0.9-dev.  If
 there was a downloadable binary version of 0.9-dev available, I'd be
 willing to consider requiring the user to install it.  But that added
 step is just too much, I think, to expect people to do as part of an
 initial ManifoldCF setup.

One consolation is that we do finally have a release of 0.9 planned.
http://s.apache.org/ln

-David

 David Crossley wrote:
  Karl Wright wrote:
 
  Very well; we will discontinue all binary distributions.
 
  One major problem will therefore be that we rely on Apache Forrest to
  build the documentation pages.  Forrest requires Java 1.5.  The
  availability of documentation in the release will therefore depend on
  the availability of Java 1.5 to the person building it.  Is this
  acceptable?
 
  It is a tiny isolated problem.
 
  There are two simple workarounds. People do not
  need to stick with Java 1.5
 
  http://forrest.apache.org/faq.html#oldjing
 
  -David

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-07 Thread Mark Struberg
btw, the release number should not be 0.1 but incubation-0.1 according to the 
Incubator rules.

LieGrue,
strub

--- On Fri, 1/7/11, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:

 From: David Crossley cross...@apache.org
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 8:29 AM
 Karl Wright wrote:
  The ManifoldCF documentation already requires Forrest
 0.9-dev.  If
  there was a downloadable binary version of 0.9-dev
 available, I'd be
  willing to consider requiring the user to install
 it.  But that added
  step is just too much, I think, to expect people to do
 as part of an
  initial ManifoldCF setup.
 
 One consolation is that we do finally have a release of 0.9
 planned.
 http://s.apache.org/ln
 
 -David
 
  David Crossley wrote:
   Karl Wright wrote:
  
   Very well; we will discontinue all binary
 distributions.
  
   One major problem will therefore be that we
 rely on Apache Forrest to
   build the documentation pages.  Forrest
 requires Java 1.5.  The
   availability of documentation in the release
 will therefore depend on
   the availability of Java 1.5 to the person
 building it.  Is this
   acceptable?
  
   It is a tiny isolated problem.
  
   There are two simple workarounds. People do not
   need to stick with Java 1.5
  
   http://forrest.apache.org/faq.html#oldjing
  
   -David
 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-07 Thread Karl Wright
The release is numbered 0.1-incubator right now.  I could not find any
rule that said what the actual format of the release number should be.
 Can you point me to the document that describes this?

Thanks,
Karl

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:
 btw, the release number should not be 0.1 but incubation-0.1 according to the 
 Incubator rules.

 LieGrue,
 strub

 --- On Fri, 1/7/11, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:

 From: David Crossley cross...@apache.org
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 8:29 AM
 Karl Wright wrote:
  The ManifoldCF documentation already requires Forrest
 0.9-dev.  If
  there was a downloadable binary version of 0.9-dev
 available, I'd be
  willing to consider requiring the user to install
 it.  But that added
  step is just too much, I think, to expect people to do
 as part of an
  initial ManifoldCF setup.

 One consolation is that we do finally have a release of 0.9
 planned.
 http://s.apache.org/ln

 -David

  David Crossley wrote:
   Karl Wright wrote:
  
   Very well; we will discontinue all binary
 distributions.
  
   One major problem will therefore be that we
 rely on Apache Forrest to
   build the documentation pages.  Forrest
 requires Java 1.5.  The
   availability of documentation in the release
 will therefore depend on
   the availability of Java 1.5 to the person
 building it.  Is this
   acceptable?
  
   It is a tiny isolated problem.
  
   There are two simple workarounds. People do not
   need to stick with Java 1.5
  
   http://forrest.apache.org/faq.html#oldjing
  
   -David

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-07 Thread Florent Guillaume
Actually 0.1-incubating or 0.1.0-incubating if I'm not mistaken.

Florent

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:
 btw, the release number should not be 0.1 but incubation-0.1 according to the 
 Incubator rules.

 LieGrue,
 strub

 --- On Fri, 1/7/11, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:

 From: David Crossley cross...@apache.org
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 8:29 AM
 Karl Wright wrote:
  The ManifoldCF documentation already requires Forrest
 0.9-dev.  If
  there was a downloadable binary version of 0.9-dev
 available, I'd be
  willing to consider requiring the user to install
 it.  But that added
  step is just too much, I think, to expect people to do
 as part of an
  initial ManifoldCF setup.

 One consolation is that we do finally have a release of 0.9
 planned.
 http://s.apache.org/ln

 -David

  David Crossley wrote:
   Karl Wright wrote:
  
   Very well; we will discontinue all binary
 distributions.
  
   One major problem will therefore be that we
 rely on Apache Forrest to
   build the documentation pages.  Forrest
 requires Java 1.5.  The
   availability of documentation in the release
 will therefore depend on
   the availability of Java 1.5 to the person
 building it.  Is this
   acceptable?
  
   It is a tiny isolated problem.
  
   There are two simple workarounds. People do not
   need to stick with Java 1.5
  
   http://forrest.apache.org/faq.html#oldjing
  
   -David

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-07 Thread Florent Guillaume
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#naming

Florent

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 The release is numbered 0.1-incubator right now.  I could not find any
 rule that said what the actual format of the release number should be.
  Can you point me to the document that describes this?

 Thanks,
 Karl

 On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote:
 btw, the release number should not be 0.1 but incubation-0.1 according to 
 the Incubator rules.

 LieGrue,
 strub

 --- On Fri, 1/7/11, David Crossley cross...@apache.org wrote:

 From: David Crossley cross...@apache.org
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 8:29 AM
 Karl Wright wrote:
  The ManifoldCF documentation already requires Forrest
 0.9-dev.  If
  there was a downloadable binary version of 0.9-dev
 available, I'd be
  willing to consider requiring the user to install
 it.  But that added
  step is just too much, I think, to expect people to do
 as part of an
  initial ManifoldCF setup.

 One consolation is that we do finally have a release of 0.9
 planned.
 http://s.apache.org/ln

 -David

  David Crossley wrote:
   Karl Wright wrote:
  
   Very well; we will discontinue all binary
 distributions.
  
   One major problem will therefore be that we
 rely on Apache Forrest to
   build the documentation pages.  Forrest
 requires Java 1.5.  The
   availability of documentation in the release
 will therefore depend on
   the availability of Java 1.5 to the person
 building it.  Is this
   acceptable?
  
   It is a tiny isolated problem.
  
   There are two simple workarounds. People do not
   need to stick with Java 1.5
  
   http://forrest.apache.org/faq.html#oldjing
  
   -David

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-07 Thread Karl Wright
I have uploaded a new artifact now.

I could call this a release candidate except for the following:
- This artifact has not been voted on by the ManifoldCF community.  It
is probably necessary to revote since what is included in the package
has changed (e.g. no build artifacts except for docs).
- I have made no changes to NOTICE and LICENSE, because the incubator
and community advice seemed contradictory.  I would like a general
sense of how many people feel that the current NOTICE and LICENSE
files are unacceptable before I make changes.
- The two remaining RAT complaints, one of which comes from Forrest,
and one from Lucene, need resolution.  I posted about that earlier,
but I have received no advice.

I believe all other issues that have been raised have been addressed.
I would very much like it if the incubator would review the modified
artifact and see whether they agree.

Thanks,
Karl

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Re: Confusing naming of Manifold Connector Framework resources

2011-01-07 Thread Karl Wright
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:48 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 6 January 2011 20:29, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
 The official name of the project has changed repeatedly.  The current
 official name is ManifoldCF.  The community expects to change both
 the SVN root and the web-site root upon incubation in any case, which
 is why we have not changed either of these yet.

 OK, I see.


Sorry, that should have been graduation, not incubation.

 A bigger area of
 concern is the prefix used for ManifoldCF tickets in Jira, which is
 CONNECTORS-xxx.  This is apparently very difficult to change without
 losing a project's old tickets.  I am hoping that change will not be
 needed.

 The Java package name hopefully won't need to be changed either ...


We don't believe so.
Karl

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-07 Thread Mark Struberg
oki that's fine then. Only did read 0.1 and didn't get the suffix.

LieGrue,
stru

--- On Fri, 1/7/11, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1
 To: general@incubator.apache.org
 Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 10:14 AM
 The release is numbered 0.1-incubator
 right now.  I could not find any
 rule that said what the actual format of the release number
 should be.
  Can you point me to the document that describes this?
 
 Thanks,
 Karl
 
 On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:35 AM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de
 wrote:
  btw, the release number should not be 0.1 but
 incubation-0.1 according to the Incubator rules.
 
  LieGrue,
  strub
 
  --- On Fri, 1/7/11, David Crossley cross...@apache.org
 wrote:
 
  From: David Crossley cross...@apache.org
  Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1
  To: general@incubator.apache.org
  Date: Friday, January 7, 2011, 8:29 AM
  Karl Wright wrote:
   The ManifoldCF documentation already requires
 Forrest
  0.9-dev.  If
   there was a downloadable binary version of
 0.9-dev
  available, I'd be
   willing to consider requiring the user to
 install
  it.  But that added
   step is just too much, I think, to expect
 people to do
  as part of an
   initial ManifoldCF setup.
 
  One consolation is that we do finally have a
 release of 0.9
  planned.
  http://s.apache.org/ln
 
  -David
 
   David Crossley wrote:
Karl Wright wrote:
   
Very well; we will discontinue all
 binary
  distributions.
   
One major problem will therefore be
 that we
  rely on Apache Forrest to
build the documentation pages.
  Forrest
  requires Java 1.5.  The
availability of documentation in the
 release
  will therefore depend on
the availability of Java 1.5 to the
 person
  building it.  Is this
acceptable?
   
It is a tiny isolated problem.
   
There are two simple workarounds. People
 do not
need to stick with Java 1.5
   
http://forrest.apache.org/faq.html#oldjing
   
-David
 
 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-07 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Karl,

Great job. +1 from me.

SIGS check out:

[chipotle:~/tmp/apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating] mattmann% gpg --verify 
apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating.tar.gz.asc
gpg: Signature made Fri Jan  7 02:44:17 2011 PST using RSA key ID 03824582
gpg: Good signature from Karl David Wright (CODE SIGNING KEY) 
kwri...@apache.org
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:  There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: E74B 06A0 454F 6E92 400A  3450 FD1F F09C 0382 4582
[chipotle:~/tmp/apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating] mattmann% gpg --verify 
apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating.zip.asc
gpg: Signature made Fri Jan  7 02:44:10 2011 PST using RSA key ID 03824582
gpg: Good signature from Karl David Wright (CODE SIGNING KEY) 
kwri...@apache.org
gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
gpg:  There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner.
Primary key fingerprint: E74B 06A0 454F 6E92 400A  3450 FD1F F09C 0382 4582
[chipotle:~/tmp/apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating] mattmann% 


MD5s check out:

[chipotle:~/tmp/apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating] mattmann% cat *.md5
14F06B43AA87A615C7FD975452164664 *apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating.tar.gz 
F6D1D9AD7A5F7144B79C09B9E8A3BEE7 *apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating.zip 

[chipotle:~/tmp/apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating] mattmann% md5sum 
apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating.tar.gz apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating.zip
14f06b43aa87a615c7fd975452164664  apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating.tar.gz
f6d1d9ad7a5f7144b79c09b9e8a3bee7  apache-manifoldcf-0.1-incubating.zip

Thanks for putting the KEYS file and CHANGES file with the RC.

Minor notes:

Rather than changing existing bits for the RC, why not just version them?

Instead of:

http://people.apache.org/~kwright/

You could do:

http://people.apache.org/~kwright/apache-manifold-cf-0.1-incubating/rcN/

So, for rc1, you'd have:

http://people.apache.org/~kwright/apache-manifold-cf-0.1-incubating/rc1/

BTW, it's fine to call this a release candidate. It's just not a release.

Again, great job!

Cheers,
Chris

On Jan 7, 2011, at 3:13 AM, Karl Wright wrote:

 I have uploaded a new artifact now.
 
 I could call this a release candidate except for the following:
 - This artifact has not been voted on by the ManifoldCF community.  It
 is probably necessary to revote since what is included in the package
 has changed (e.g. no build artifacts except for docs).
 - I have made no changes to NOTICE and LICENSE, because the incubator
 and community advice seemed contradictory.  I would like a general
 sense of how many people feel that the current NOTICE and LICENSE
 files are unacceptable before I make changes.
 - The two remaining RAT complaints, one of which comes from Forrest,
 and one from Lucene, need resolution.  I posted about that earlier,
 but I have received no advice.
 
 I believe all other issues that have been raised have been addressed.
 I would very much like it if the incubator would review the modified
 artifact and see whether they agree.
 
 Thanks,
 Karl
 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-07 Thread Karl Wright
The community wanted to include both a source and a source+binary
distribution.  Accordingly, I spun up one of those, which is RC5.  The
RC4 candidate is still up there, so I guess you can vote on either
one.

Thanks!
Karl

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov wrote:
 Hi Karl,

 Great job. +1 from me.


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[VOTE] Release PhotArk M3-incubating (RC2a)

2011-01-07 Thread Luciano Resende
The PhotArk community has completed a vote on it's third milestone
release (PhotArk M3-Incubating) and  is now looking for IPMC approval
to publish the release. This release candidate has minimal changes compared
to the previous release candidate and address the license/notice issues
raised on this mailing list.

Please review and vote on approving the M3-incubating release
artifacts of PhotArk.

The artifacts are available for review at:
http://people.apache.org/~lresende/photark/M3-incubating-RC2a/

This includes the signed binary and source distributions, the RAT report,
and the Maven staging repository.

The release tag is available at :
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/photark/tags/M3-incubating-RC2a/

The podling vote thread is :
http://www.mail-archive.com/photark-dev@incubator.apache.org/msg01108.html



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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-07 Thread David Crossley
Karl Wright wrote:
 The RAT report after these changes looks good except for two files,
 which come from the skins in the site:
 
 [rat:report] Unapproved licenses:
 [rat:report]
 [rat:report]   
 C:/wip/mcf-release/release-0.1-branch/site/src/documentation/skins/common/xslt/html/split.xsl
 [rat:report]   
 C:/wip/mcf-release/release-0.1-branch/site/src/documentation/skins/lucene/note.txt
 [rat:report]
 [rat:report] ***
 
 One of these looks like it comes from Forrest itself (the first), and
 has this header:
 
 !--
  This stylesheet was taken from the XSLT FAQ http://www.dpawson.co.uk/xsl/
 
  Comments and adaption to be used without normalize-space()
   by forrest-...@xml.apache.org
 --
 
 No idea what to do about that one.

At Forrest we exclude it from our license header checking tools.

 The other is merely a todo list in the Lucene skin, which I believe
 could simply be removed.

Or just exclude it too from your RAT processing.

 Thoughts?

I don't understand why ManifoldCF needs this special skin processing
that then needs to live in your svn.
At Forrest, we advise not to create their own skin unless absolutely
necessary. We prefer to address any needs in the default skin.

With a quick flick through the ManifoldCF site i do not see anything
that needs a special skin, just a couple of colour specifications.

Of course this would be better discussed at the Forrest mail lists.
At the dev@ list, seeing that you are using the development version.

However, i reckon that you should not hold up your release
because of this.

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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache ManifoldCF 0.1

2011-01-07 Thread Karl Wright

 I don't understand why ManifoldCF needs this special skin processing
 that then needs to live in your svn.
 At Forrest, we advise not to create their own skin unless absolutely
 necessary. We prefer to address any needs in the default skin.

 With a quick flick through the ManifoldCF site i do not see anything
 that needs a special skin, just a couple of colour specifications.

 Of course this would be better discussed at the Forrest mail lists.
 At the dev@ list, seeing that you are using the development version.

 However, i reckon that you should not hold up your release
 because of this.

 -David


Thanks for the advice.  The current Forrest skin was originally put
down by Grant so I will need to find out why he used it.  But it is
good to hear that these files can be excluded from the RAT report.

Karl

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