Re: What do Chukwa, Droids, Hama, Hise, Lucene.Net have in common?

2011-09-15 Thread sebb
On 15 September 2011 02:26, Shane Curcuru  wrote:
> Hmmm, if we're going to build something, why not build it right and ensure
> podlings have DOAP files before they graduate to boot?
>
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/projects/$podling.doap
>  (or some such)
>
> WDYT?

Good idea, but it would still be useful to have a summary csv or XML
file containing details of ALL podlings, past and present.

The Incubator needs to keep track of graduated podlings too.

> We should be able to generate plenty of stuff on the incubator site from
> normal DOAP with maybe(?) one more extension; and then when projects
> graduate they just move the DOAP to projects.a.o

Perhaps copy, rather than move, so Incubator still has the data it needs.

> - Shane, an old XML guy, long on ideas but short on code
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Re: [PROPOSAL] S4 for the Apache Incubator

2011-09-15 Thread Scott Wilson
On 14 Sep 2011, at 21:19, Leo Neumeyer wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I would like to propose S4 to be an Apache Incubator project.  S4 is a
> distributed streaming platform written in Java.
> 
> Here is a link to the proposal in the Incubator wiki:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/S4Proposal
> 
> Thanks,
> Leo Neumeyer
> 
> http://s4.io
> http://twitter.com/leoneu


This sounds like a really interesting proposal Leo - would it work with 
emerging streaming capabilities for browser such as WebRTC and WebSockets? For 
example, would it work as a processor for streams coming in from a browser via 
WebRTC or HTML5 Device Capture, as well as for pushing streams out into  
elements or to websocket clients?

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Re: [PROPOSAL] S4 for the Apache Incubator

2011-09-15 Thread Akash Ashok
Sounds really interesting. Looking forward to seeing this incubated.

Cheers,
Akash A

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Scott Wilson <
scott.bradley.wil...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 14 Sep 2011, at 21:19, Leo Neumeyer wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I would like to propose S4 to be an Apache Incubator project.  S4 is a
> > distributed streaming platform written in Java.
> >
> > Here is a link to the proposal in the Incubator wiki:
> > http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/S4Proposal
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Leo Neumeyer
> >
> > http://s4.io
> > http://twitter.com/leoneu
>
>
> This sounds like a really interesting proposal Leo - would it work with
> emerging streaming capabilities for browser such as WebRTC and WebSockets?
> For example, would it work as a processor for streams coming in from a
> browser via WebRTC or HTML5 Device Capture, as well as for pushing streams
> out into  elements or to websocket clients?
>
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Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.3-incubating?

2011-09-15 Thread Tommaso Teofili
+1 (binding)
Tommaso



Il giorno 13/set/2011, alle ore 19:33, Karl Wright  ha 
scritto:

> The ManifoldCF community has voted to release ManifoldCF
> 0.3-incubating RC1.  Now it is your turn to vote!  You can pick up the
> artifact at http://people.apache.org/~kwright, or if you want to look
> at the svn tag it's at
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lcf/tags/release-0.3-incubating-RC1.
> 
> Thanks!
> Karl
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Re: [VOTE] Release ManifoldCF 0.3-incubating?

2011-09-15 Thread Karl Wright
+1 from me, of course, also (non-binding)

Karl

On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Tommaso Teofili
 wrote:
> +1 (binding)
> Tommaso
>
>
>
> Il giorno 13/set/2011, alle ore 19:33, Karl Wright  ha 
> scritto:
>
>> The ManifoldCF community has voted to release ManifoldCF
>> 0.3-incubating RC1.  Now it is your turn to vote!  You can pick up the
>> artifact at http://people.apache.org/~kwright, or if you want to look
>> at the svn tag it's at
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/lcf/tags/release-0.3-incubating-RC1.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Karl
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Re: Committer versus PPMC

2011-09-15 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Alasdair Nottingham  wrote:
> The word typically suggests to me that normally a mentor does this, but any 
> willing IPMC member can do this and that is no problem.

+1

The whole section is [DRAFT] so it might well be a formatting issue.
Looks like part of a glossary of terms but poorly linked and
misformated.

Robert

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Re: [PROPOSAL] S4 for the Apache Incubator

2011-09-15 Thread Phillip Rhodes
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Leo Neumeyer  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I would like to propose S4 to be an Apache Incubator project.  S4 is a
> distributed streaming platform written in Java.
>
> Here is a link to the proposal in the Incubator wiki:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/S4Proposal
>

Awesome! I'm very happy to see S4 joining Apache, and am volunteering
to help out.  I've added myself to the "initial committers" list on
the proposal wiki.

Definitely looking forward to this.



Cheers,


Phil

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Promoting Podling Bootstrap From Draft [WAS Re: Committer versus PPMC]

2011-09-15 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
 wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Alasdair Nottingham  wrote:
>> The word typically suggests to me that normally a mentor does this, but any 
>> willing IPMC member can do this and that is no problem.
>
> +1
>
> The whole section is [DRAFT] so it might well be a formatting issue.
> Looks like part of a glossary of terms but poorly linked and
> misformated.

I've collected related definitions into a glossary and linked into it.
If anyone sees any other improvements, please feel free to dive in.

The Podling Bootstrap section[1] is still marked [DRAFT]. It'd be
great if we could work on pushing it up to normative. If anyone could
find a few cycles to review and comment/suggest improvements (or just
dive in and patch if you have karma) please jump in :-)

Robert

[1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#bootstrap

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Re: [PROPOSAL] S4 for the Apache Incubator

2011-09-15 Thread Flavio Junqueira
Hi everyone, To introduce myself, I'm a ZooKeeper committer and PMC  
member. I'm used to the process of selecting committers for ZooKeeper,  
but I'm new to the incubator process, so I would appreciate if the  
community could shed some light here.


I have read the guide to participation:

http://incubator.apache.org/guides/participation.html

and I understand from there that people shouldn't simply jump in as an  
initial committer without a short introduction and without  
acknowledgment from the proposer. Thanks to the ones who followed the  
protocol and introduced themselves.


Our expectation when we submitted the proposal was that the initial  
set of committers would comprise the people who have initially  
contributed to get the current code to this stage, and we were not  
expecting arbitrary requests to join the initial list of committers.  
Of course, as a potential Apache project (now potentially incubator,  
but looking forward to being TLP in the future), we are ready to work  
towards building a community, which includes granting the status of  
committer to contributors. However, we'd like new committers to earn  
their status by showing commitment to the community and demonstrating  
technical merit.


We understand that it is important to have other people who are  
experienced with ASF to mentor the project, and we don't want to drive  
these people away or anyone else who is willing to contribute.  
Committership and mentorship sound like different issues, though, and  
we would like committership in general (ASF experienced or not) to be  
earned.


I was also checking some other threads that discuss the issue, and I  
believe my message reflects some of the points in previous threads, so  
I'm linking them here:


http://markmail.org/message/hfy2clgc3ddwfjnz
http://markmail.org/message/nkfugts33sw37gwf

What exactly is expected and how should we proceed?

Thanks,
-Flavio
 


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Re: [PROPOSAL] S4 for the Apache Incubator

2011-09-15 Thread Phillip Rhodes
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Flavio Junqueira  wrote:
>
> I have read the guide to participation:
>
>        http://incubator.apache.org/guides/participation.html
>
> and I understand from there that people shouldn't simply jump in as an
> initial committer without a short introduction and without acknowledgment
> from the proposer.

Since I was one of those people, let me issue a "mea culpa" here.  Despite
having read the participation guidelines (more than once even) I apparently
slipped into a bit of a conditioned response, from observed behavior.  For
better or worse, it has become not uncommon (in my experience) to see
people simply "jump in" and add themselves.  In retrospect, yes, it probably
is a bit rude, and I apologize for my part in this.

I suppose t's just what Roy said in 2006: everybody
saw a certain process appearing to happen, assumed it was policy and
didn't give it any further thought.  Guess I'm guilty of that.


> Our expectation when we submitted the proposal was that the initial set of
> committers would comprise the people who have initially contributed to get
> the current code to this stage, and we were not expecting arbitrary requests
> to join the initial list of committers.

While "jumping in" is - as we've already established - in bad taste, I
*think* that
(most|any|some) projects entering incubation should expect such requests.
Part of the focus of the incubator, as I've understood it, is to
promote sufficient
diversity in the community and the team, that no one "block" of people can kill
the project by dropping out or whatever.  Having new initial
committers that have
no outstanding connection to the project is one way to achieve that.
In this regard, the
incubation period is radically different from other times in the
project lifecycle.
Or, again, that has been my understanding.

Then again, maybe it only appears that way because some projects make
it a point to
appeal to people *to* join in as initial committers.

> Of course, as a potential Apache
> project (now potentially incubator, but looking forward to being TLP in the
> future), we are ready to work towards building a community, which includes
> granting the status of committer to contributors. However, we'd like new
> committers to earn their status by showing commitment to the community and
> demonstrating technical merit.

Absolutely, and entering the incubator is the only time - AFAIK - that projects
here tend to take a slightly different stance.  It's all about seeding
the initial pool
before the project gets underway.   That said, I'm not sure projects
are required
to accept an additional initial committers beyond what the proposer suggests.


For my own part, I'll just say that I'm excited about S4, very happy
to volunteer to help, and
if you guys want me, I'm in.  If not, take me off the list and it'll
all be cool.  FSM knows, I have
plenty of stuff to keep me occupied already.  ;-)

As far as introduction goes...  Well, I founded Fogbeam Labs, started
the ScrewPile project to
develop an OSS suite of Enterprise Knowledge Management software.
I've been a professional
software engineer for the past 12-13 years, working mostly in Java,
but some C, C++, Python
and Groovy as well.  If anyone wants to know more about me, just ask,
or see:  https://plus.google.com/u/1/114301088526097505896/about


Cheers,


Phil

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Re: [PROPOSAL] S4 for the Apache Incubator

2011-09-15 Thread Leo Neumeyer
Phil and all,

Great discussion and so happy you want to join the team. No need to apologize !!

My feeling is that if someone wants to join the project as a contributor and 
has technical merit he or she will become a committer pretty quickly. I think 
that having a minimal protocol is useful to make sure people get to know each 
other and the project. In fact, the current policy seems good to me: 
http://incubator.apache.org/guides/participation.html I love the DO-ocracy 
concept and seems to be the best way to become a committer.

So I propose that those who are interested and can volunteer some time, start 
thinking on how to contribute. If the project is accepted we will discuss the 
details in the mailing list.

Thanks again!
-leo

On Sep 15, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Phillip Rhodes wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Flavio Junqueira  wrote:
>> 
>> I have read the guide to participation:
>> 
>>http://incubator.apache.org/guides/participation.html
>> 
>> and I understand from there that people shouldn't simply jump in as an
>> initial committer without a short introduction and without acknowledgment
>> from the proposer.
> 
> Since I was one of those people, let me issue a "mea culpa" here.  Despite
> having read the participation guidelines (more than once even) I apparently
> slipped into a bit of a conditioned response, from observed behavior.  For
> better or worse, it has become not uncommon (in my experience) to see
> people simply "jump in" and add themselves.  In retrospect, yes, it probably
> is a bit rude, and I apologize for my part in this.
> 
> I suppose t's just what Roy said in 2006: everybody
> saw a certain process appearing to happen, assumed it was policy and
> didn't give it any further thought.  Guess I'm guilty of that.
> 
> 
>> Our expectation when we submitted the proposal was that the initial set of
>> committers would comprise the people who have initially contributed to get
>> the current code to this stage, and we were not expecting arbitrary requests
>> to join the initial list of committers.
> 
> While "jumping in" is - as we've already established - in bad taste, I
> *think* that
> (most|any|some) projects entering incubation should expect such requests.
> Part of the focus of the incubator, as I've understood it, is to
> promote sufficient
> diversity in the community and the team, that no one "block" of people can 
> kill
> the project by dropping out or whatever.  Having new initial
> committers that have
> no outstanding connection to the project is one way to achieve that.
> In this regard, the
> incubation period is radically different from other times in the
> project lifecycle.
> Or, again, that has been my understanding.
> 
> Then again, maybe it only appears that way because some projects make
> it a point to
> appeal to people *to* join in as initial committers.
> 
>> Of course, as a potential Apache
>> project (now potentially incubator, but looking forward to being TLP in the
>> future), we are ready to work towards building a community, which includes
>> granting the status of committer to contributors. However, we'd like new
>> committers to earn their status by showing commitment to the community and
>> demonstrating technical merit.
> 
> Absolutely, and entering the incubator is the only time - AFAIK - that 
> projects
> here tend to take a slightly different stance.  It's all about seeding
> the initial pool
> before the project gets underway.   That said, I'm not sure projects
> are required
> to accept an additional initial committers beyond what the proposer suggests.
> 
> 
> For my own part, I'll just say that I'm excited about S4, very happy
> to volunteer to help, and
> if you guys want me, I'm in.  If not, take me off the list and it'll
> all be cool.  FSM knows, I have
> plenty of stuff to keep me occupied already.  ;-)
> 
> As far as introduction goes...  Well, I founded Fogbeam Labs, started
> the ScrewPile project to
> develop an OSS suite of Enterprise Knowledge Management software.
> I've been a professional
> software engineer for the past 12-13 years, working mostly in Java,
> but some C, C++, Python
> and Groovy as well.  If anyone wants to know more about me, just ask,
> or see:  https://plus.google.com/u/1/114301088526097505896/about
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Phil
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Re: [VOTE] Kalumet to join Incubator

2011-09-15 Thread Brett Porter
+1 (binding)

On 13/09/2011, at 5:18 PM, Olivier Lamy wrote:

> Hello Folks,
> 
> Please vote on the acceptance of Kalumet into the Apache incubator.
> 
> The proposal is available at: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/KalumetProposal
> (for your convenience, a snapshot is also copied below)
> 
> The vote options (please cast your vote) :
> 
> [ ] +1 Accept Kalumet for incubation
> [ ] +0 Don't care
> [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:
> 
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> 
> Here my (binding) +1 .
> 

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Fwd: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Gora 0.1.1-incubating release rc4

2011-09-15 Thread Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
Hi Incubator community,

The Gora podling has VOTE'd to release 0.1.1-incubating. We need 1 more 
IPMC VOTE.

Here's a link to the original VOTE thread: http://s.apache.org/UfY

Comments, VOTEs, welcome! I'll leave it open for 72 hours.

Cheers,
Chris


Begin forwarded message:

> From: "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" 
> Date: September 15, 2011 8:48:03 PM PDT
> To: "gora-...@incubator.apache.org" 
> Subject: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Gora 0.1.1-incubating release rc4
> Reply-To: "gora-...@incubator.apache.org" , 
> "gora-...@incubator.apache.org" 
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> Okey dok, this VOTE has passed with the following tallies:
> 
> +1 PPMC
> Henry Saputra
> Ioannis Canellos
> 
> -1 PPMC
> Alexis de Tréglodé
> 
> +1 IPMC
> Chris Mattmann
> Julien Nioche
> 
> +1 Community
> Lewis John McGibbney
> 
> Per Incubator policy, I will now forward the message to 
> general@incubator.apache.org. 
> We need 1 more IPMC member to cast their +1 to make the VOTE official.
> 
> Cheers,
> Chris
> 
> ++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
> WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++
> 


++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov
WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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