Re: Do we still need release metrics as part of the report?
No On Jun 12, 2014, at 8:13, Jake Farrell jfarr...@apache.org wrote: Hey Roman Why not take them from the voting status page [1], and looks like its started to fall behind again. I'll go through and clean up again over the next couple days -Jake [1]: http://people.apache.org/~brane/incubator/votes.html On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 6:26 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: first of all, let me start with, once again, expressing tremendous gratitude to our report managers: John and Marvin. Solid (and at times not quite appreciated) work! Please add Joe Brockmeier to that list. Thanks for joining us, Joe! Indeed! I have no objection to including the stats if someone feels strongly enough to compile them, but I think we should ensure we're channeling enough energy into educating podlings being underserved by the IPMC that there is a way for them to take control of their destiny. I'll use this as a guiding principle for this month' report then. I'll be submitting at around 10pm PST tonight. If anybody has spare cycles to collect these metrics -- I'd love to review and submit those in the final report. IOW, from now on -- they will be considered optional. PS: Roman, if Joe doesn't get around to adding a blurb about ODF Toolkit's release using the alternate process before you submit the report to the Board, please add one yourself. (See http://s.apache.org/q7.) Done! Thanks, Roman. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
Hello incubator folks, Can someone please take a look at this proposal? 2014-06-10 7:06 GMT+02:00 Alexander Broekhuis a.broekh...@gmail.com: Hi All, Since entering Incubation in November 2010, the Celix podling been working towards graduation. The community has grown, releases have been made and new committers have been added. Over the last couple of months all items on the checklist for graduation have been ticked of [1]. This resulted in a, positive, vote on te dev list of Celix itself [2]. Also the namesearch has been performed [3]. As far as we can tell the project status is up to date [4], and Celix is ready for graduation. This thread is to start the IPMC discussion for the graduation of Apache Celix. The proposed resolution can be found at the bottom of this email. Any feedback is appreciated, and where needed we will any remaining issues as soon as possible. Thanks in advance Alexander Broekhuis (PPMC member of Apache Celix) [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist [2]: http://markmail.org/thread/7y3a2l6qqm56cvud [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-50 [4]: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/celix.html === Board Resolution == X. Establish the Apache Celix Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related to a native implementation of the OSGi specification. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Celix Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to a native implementation of the OSGi specification; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Celix be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Celix Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Celix Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Celix Project: * Alexander Broekhuis abro...@apache.org * Pepijn Noltes pnol...@apache.org * Bjoern Petribpe...@apache.org * Erik Jansman ejan...@apache.org NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Alexander Broekhuis be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Celix, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Celix PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache Celix Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Celix podling; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator Celix podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are hereafter discharged. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Alexander Broekhuis -- Met vriendelijke groet, Alexander Broekhuis
Re: Request for mentor assessment
Roman, Regarding Wave, this comes up periodically. The two mentors (myself and Christian) are of the opinion that it sitting in the incubator is not doing harm. The project is definitely in need of new resource, and I wonder whether it will gain the necessary, but up until now, those active devs have wanted to stay here, and mentors have considered this acceptable. Upayavira On Thu, Jun 12, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: Hi! I would like to kindly request some assistance from the mentors of the following projects: devicemap, kalumet, s4, wave and npanday (all CCed). I would like to figure out whether the concerns I have for these projects are justified and if they are, what would be the proposed steps for the IPMC. To be more specific: * DeviceMap has been in the incubator since 2012-01-03. It seems like it is still struggling with the basics: producing releases and growing its PMC. What's the recommendation here? * Kalumet has been in the incubator since 2011-09-20. On one hand, it may be ready to graduate, but there are also a few troubling signs. We need to get recommendation on how to proceed. * S4 seems to be on a trajectory for retirement. Can we, please, have mentors initiate that discussion in the community and follow up on general@ ? * Wave is similar to Kalumet in that its been incubating for a very long time (since 2010-12-01) but still show troubling signs of lack of activity, lack of releases and active PMC involvement. * NPanday has been incubating since 2010-08-13. Has a pretty consistent track record of missing reports and low amount of activity. And speaking of NPanday it seems to also have an additional complication of mentors missing in action. I am also looking for ideas of how to fix that. The best thought I have so far is to ask for volunteers to step in and help. Anyway, to make long story short, if mentors could check back with their projects and reply to this thread with concrete assessments and recommendations that would be awesome. Thanks, Roman. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Request for mentor assessment
The S4 retirement vote is in progress: http://markmail.org/message/mkxdu6fnzmsybeq2 Patrick On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:33 PM, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: Hi! I would like to kindly request some assistance from the mentors of the following projects: devicemap, kalumet, s4, wave and npanday (all CCed). I would like to figure out whether the concerns I have for these projects are justified and if they are, what would be the proposed steps for the IPMC. To be more specific: * DeviceMap has been in the incubator since 2012-01-03. It seems like it is still struggling with the basics: producing releases and growing its PMC. What's the recommendation here? * Kalumet has been in the incubator since 2011-09-20. On one hand, it may be ready to graduate, but there are also a few troubling signs. We need to get recommendation on how to proceed. * S4 seems to be on a trajectory for retirement. Can we, please, have mentors initiate that discussion in the community and follow up on general@ ? * Wave is similar to Kalumet in that its been incubating for a very long time (since 2010-12-01) but still show troubling signs of lack of activity, lack of releases and active PMC involvement. * NPanday has been incubating since 2010-08-13. Has a pretty consistent track record of missing reports and low amount of activity. And speaking of NPanday it seems to also have an additional complication of mentors missing in action. I am also looking for ideas of how to fix that. The best thought I have so far is to ask for volunteers to step in and help. Anyway, to make long story short, if mentors could check back with their projects and reply to this thread with concrete assessments and recommendations that would be awesome. Thanks, Roman. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Request for mentor assessment
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like NPanday should go to attic. One mentor I asked did not even monitor it anymore I've had exactly the same experience. My plan here is to wait for folks to chime in on this thread and for those mentors who are MiA start different threads asking for additional (replacement) mentors. I really would like for things like retirement proposals to come from somebody who's spent time getting to know the community in greater details. Thanks, Roman. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Request for mentor assessment
I think Tez needs some more help mentoring. I myself haven't had as much time as possible so the more folks over there that can help mentor the better. Good job starting this thread, Roman. -Original Message- From: Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Date: Thursday, June 12, 2014 5:44 PM To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Request for mentor assessment On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 5:47 PM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like NPanday should go to attic. One mentor I asked did not even monitor it anymore I've had exactly the same experience. My plan here is to wait for folks to chime in on this thread and for those mentors who are MiA start different threads asking for additional (replacement) mentors. I really would like for things like retirement proposals to come from somebody who's spent time getting to know the community in greater details. Thanks, Roman. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Request for mentor assessment
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:26 AM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote: Roman, Regarding Wave, this comes up periodically. The two mentors (myself and Christian) are of the opinion that it sitting in the incubator is not doing harm. The project is definitely in need of new resource, and I wonder whether it will gain the necessary, but up until now, those active devs have wanted to stay here, and mentors have considered this acceptable. This is one of the questions, I'd like to explore in greater details: are we comfortable with having professional student projects in the incubator? In the case of Wave, it really strikes me as odd that the community is not capable of even a single release in more than 3.5 years: http://incubator.apache.org/wave/downloads.html This suggests that ASF is being used as a GitHub of sorts. Are we comfortable with this? Thanks, Roman. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate Apache Celix as TLP
I've been around Celix for some time. It is small but a very robust community that is also slowly growing. Personally, I'd say its time to put this proposal for a general@ vote. Thanks, Roman. On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 1:02 AM, Alexander Broekhuis a.broekh...@gmail.com wrote: Hello incubator folks, Can someone please take a look at this proposal? 2014-06-10 7:06 GMT+02:00 Alexander Broekhuis a.broekh...@gmail.com: Hi All, Since entering Incubation in November 2010, the Celix podling been working towards graduation. The community has grown, releases have been made and new committers have been added. Over the last couple of months all items on the checklist for graduation have been ticked of [1]. This resulted in a, positive, vote on te dev list of Celix itself [2]. Also the namesearch has been performed [3]. As far as we can tell the project status is up to date [4], and Celix is ready for graduation. This thread is to start the IPMC discussion for the graduation of Apache Celix. The proposed resolution can be found at the bottom of this email. Any feedback is appreciated, and where needed we will any remaining issues as soon as possible. Thanks in advance Alexander Broekhuis (PPMC member of Apache Celix) [1]: http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#checklist [2]: http://markmail.org/thread/7y3a2l6qqm56cvud [3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-50 [4]: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/celix.html === Board Resolution == X. Establish the Apache Celix Project WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related to a native implementation of the OSGi specification. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache Celix Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to a native implementation of the OSGi specification; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, Apache Celix be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache Celix Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache Celix Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache Celix Project: * Alexander Broekhuis abro...@apache.org * Pepijn Noltes pnol...@apache.org * Bjoern Petribpe...@apache.org * Erik Jansman ejan...@apache.org NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Alexander Broekhuis be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Celix, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Celix PMC be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the Apache Celix Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache Celix Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache Incubator Celix podling; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator Celix podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are hereafter discharged. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Alexander Broekhuis -- Met vriendelijke groet, Alexander Broekhuis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Request for mentor assessment
On 06/12/2014 07:56 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: This is one of the questions, I'd like to explore in greater details: are we comfortable with having professional student projects in the incubator? In response to the general question, it seems that professional student podlings are inconsistent with the idea that the Incubator is a process that should result in graduation or termination. In the case of Wave, it really strikes me as odd that the community is not capable of even a single release in more than 3.5 years: http://incubator.apache.org/wave/downloads.html This suggests that ASF is being used as a GitHub of sorts. Are we comfortable with this? Speaking for myself, no. I'd be uncomfortable having a specific deadline for graduation, but a podling that's not making progress towards graduation (in general, not pointing a finger specifically at Wave here) should be terminated. Best, jzb -- Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net Twitter: @jzb http://www.dissociatedpress.net/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Request for mentor assessment
Hi all, As I've replied to Roman earlier in a separate email thread in NPanday list, I have already stepped down as mentor for the project over a year ago. Anyway, I took a quick look at the Jira and commit notifications, and the last commit made was on April 4. There have been a number of tickets reported in the recent weeks, but there doesn't seem to be anyone actively working on any of them. If there aren't any volunteers that are willing to step in and help, I guess the best option is to move the project to attic as mentioned. -Deng On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like NPanday should go to attic. One mentor I asked did not even monitor it anymore On Wednesday, June 11, 2014, Roman Shaposhnik r...@apache.org wrote: Hi! I would like to kindly request some assistance from the mentors of the following projects: devicemap, kalumet, s4, wave and npanday (all CCed). I would like to figure out whether the concerns I have for these projects are justified and if they are, what would be the proposed steps for the IPMC. To be more specific: * DeviceMap has been in the incubator since 2012-01-03. It seems like it is still struggling with the basics: producing releases and growing its PMC. What's the recommendation here? * Kalumet has been in the incubator since 2011-09-20. On one hand, it may be ready to graduate, but there are also a few troubling signs. We need to get recommendation on how to proceed. * S4 seems to be on a trajectory for retirement. Can we, please, have mentors initiate that discussion in the community and follow up on general@ ? * Wave is similar to Kalumet in that its been incubating for a very long time (since 2010-12-01) but still show troubling signs of lack of activity, lack of releases and active PMC involvement. * NPanday has been incubating since 2010-08-13. Has a pretty consistent track record of missing reports and low amount of activity. And speaking of NPanday it seems to also have an additional complication of mentors missing in action. I am also looking for ideas of how to fix that. The best thought I have so far is to ask for volunteers to step in and help. Anyway, to make long story short, if mentors could check back with their projects and reply to this thread with concrete assessments and recommendations that would be awesome. Thanks, Roman. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org javascript:; For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org javascript:; -- Maria Odea Deng Ching-Mallete | och...@apache.org | http://www.linkedin.com/in/oching
