Re: June report prep

2015-05-29 Thread Luke Han
What's the rotation rule of all incubator projects? I found our project in
May's report but not on June
Would like to know that and get ready for coming report.

Thank you very much.
Luke


Best Regards!
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Luke Han

2015-05-28 6:04 GMT+08:00 Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com:

 On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Marvin Humphrey
  mar...@rectangular.com wrote:

  The first action of the June report cycle is to send the timeline
  email to general@incubator.  This should be done by the last
  Wednesday of the month, so that people see it a full week before
  podling reports are due.  Here's a sample:
 
  Yay!
 
  With the correct version of python, this now works for me.  We won't
  know what problems I had before, but I don't plan to care too much.

 Thanks, Ted -- looks good!

 And I'm glad that you sent it out, because it seems that the other
 Marvin flaked again and the per-podling reminder emails have not fired
 yet.  That's not something that the Report Manager is responsible for,
 though -- it's something the Incubator relies on individual volunteers
 to monitor.

 If the automatic reminders haven't fired by tomorrow, I'll send out
 manual reminders again.

 Marvin Humphrey

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Re: [VOTE] Accept Mysos into the Apache Incubator

2015-05-29 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Jake Farrell jfarr...@apache.org wrote:
   [X ] -1 Do not accept Mysos into the Apache Incubator because...

As mentioned before I think the name is too close to Mesos, especially
taking into account the ways those names are pronounced in various
languages.

This is not a veto of course as this is a majority vote, and I don't
object to the podling creation anyway, it's just the name that's
problematic IMO.

-Bertrand

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Re: June report prep

2015-05-29 Thread Ted Dunning
Incubator projects start with monthly reporting and then switch to
quarterly after the first few reports.

I think that it is very helpful to do a bit of the report each month even
after switching to quarterly reporting because it is hard to remember
everything that has happened after 3 months.  Even just making a few notes
each week is a good thing.

This is also a good opportunity to build community if you spread around the
writing of those few lines.  Starting with super easy contributions like
that often leads to much more significant contributions later.




On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Luke Han luke...@gmail.com wrote:

 What's the rotation rule of all incubator projects? I found our project in
 May's report but not on June
 Would like to know that and get ready for coming report.

 Thank you very much.
 Luke


 Best Regards!
 -

 Luke Han

 2015-05-28 6:04 GMT+08:00 Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com:

  On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Marvin Humphrey
   mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
 
   The first action of the June report cycle is to send the timeline
   email to general@incubator.  This should be done by the last
   Wednesday of the month, so that people see it a full week before
   podling reports are due.  Here's a sample:
  
   Yay!
  
   With the correct version of python, this now works for me.  We won't
   know what problems I had before, but I don't plan to care too much.
 
  Thanks, Ted -- looks good!
 
  And I'm glad that you sent it out, because it seems that the other
  Marvin flaked again and the per-podling reminder emails have not fired
  yet.  That's not something that the Report Manager is responsible for,
  though -- it's something the Incubator relies on individual volunteers
  to monitor.
 
  If the automatic reminders haven't fired by tomorrow, I'll send out
  manual reminders again.
 
  Marvin Humphrey
 
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Re: June report prep

2015-05-29 Thread Luke Han
Thanks Ted, this is more clear now.

You are right, to have monthly summary is also very important to share such
information in project community,
and it's good start point for people learn more about that project when
they joined a new community

Thanks.


Best Regards!
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Luke Han

2015-05-29 16:23 GMT+08:00 Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com:

 Incubator projects start with monthly reporting and then switch to
 quarterly after the first few reports.

 I think that it is very helpful to do a bit of the report each month even
 after switching to quarterly reporting because it is hard to remember
 everything that has happened after 3 months.  Even just making a few notes
 each week is a good thing.

 This is also a good opportunity to build community if you spread around the
 writing of those few lines.  Starting with super easy contributions like
 that often leads to much more significant contributions later.




 On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Luke Han luke...@gmail.com wrote:

  What's the rotation rule of all incubator projects? I found our project
 in
  May's report but not on June
  Would like to know that and get ready for coming report.
 
  Thank you very much.
  Luke
 
 
  Best Regards!
  -
 
  Luke Han
 
  2015-05-28 6:04 GMT+08:00 Marvin Humphrey mar...@rectangular.com:
 
   On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 8:38 PM, Ted Dunning ted.dunn...@gmail.com
   wrote:
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Marvin Humphrey
mar...@rectangular.com wrote:
  
The first action of the June report cycle is to send the timeline
email to general@incubator.  This should be done by the last
Wednesday of the month, so that people see it a full week before
podling reports are due.  Here's a sample:
   
Yay!
   
With the correct version of python, this now works for me.  We won't
know what problems I had before, but I don't plan to care too much.
  
   Thanks, Ted -- looks good!
  
   And I'm glad that you sent it out, because it seems that the other
   Marvin flaked again and the per-podling reminder emails have not fired
   yet.  That's not something that the Report Manager is responsible for,
   though -- it's something the Incubator relies on individual volunteers
   to monitor.
  
   If the automatic reminders haven't fired by tomorrow, I'll send out
   manual reminders again.
  
   Marvin Humphrey
  
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Re: [VOTE] Accept Mysos into the Apache Incubator

2015-05-29 Thread Luke Han
+1

2015-05-29 11:34 GMT+08:00 Justin Erenkrantz jus...@erenkrantz.com:

 On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Jake Farrell jfarr...@apache.org
 wrote:
  Based on the earlier discussion in thread [1], I would like to call a
 VOTE
  to accept Mysos, an Apache Mesos framework for running MySQL instances,
 as
  a new Apache Incubator project.
 
  The proposal is available on the wiki at [2] and is also attached below
 
  The VOTE is open for at least the next 72 hours:
 
[ ] +1 Accept Mysos into the Apache Incubator
[ ] ±0
[ ] -1 Do not accept Mysos into the Apache Incubator because...

 +1.  -- justin

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[VOTE] Release Apache Kylin-0.7.1-incubating

2015-05-29 Thread Luke Han
Hi all,

The Apache Kylin community has voted on and approved a proposal to release
Apache Kylin 0.7.1 (incubating), the first release of Apache Kylin.

Since this is first release after join Apache Incubating project, we would
like to hear more feedback from incubator community and please help to
verify and vote our release candidate.

Proposal:
http://s.apache.org/kylin-0.7.1-vote

Vote result:
3 binding +1 votes
0 non-binding +1 votes
No -1 votes
http://s.apache.org/kylin-0.7.1-result

The commit to be voted upon:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/76b5d37561879140e73c9179d95a4e5e96751444

Its hash is 76b5d37561879140e73c9179d95a4e5e96751444.

The artifacts to be voted on are located here:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/kylin/apache-kylin-0.7.1-incubating-rc2/

The hashes of the artifacts are as follows:
src.zip.md5 c8b0bb6744288f07ad625cc48521b088
src.zip.sha1 bafab62d5df6e77da0f236b9399a674abcc2b34a

A staged Maven repository is available for review at:
https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekylin-1004/

Release artifacts are signed with the following key:
https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/lukehan.asc

Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy and with
the endorsement of our mentors we would now like to request
the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the release. The vote
is open for 72 hours, or until the necessary number of votes (3 +1)
is reached.

[ ] +1 Release this package
[ ]  0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
[ ] -1 Do not release this package because...


Luke Han, on behalf of Apache Kylin PPMC


Re: [VOTE] Accept Mysos into the Apache Incubator

2015-05-29 Thread Jake Farrell
Bringing back comments from a separate thread on board@

Sorry to see your vote of a -1 on the proposal due to the name. This was
raised during the discussion phase and as stated in the discussion we are
not against a name change, but saw it as something that was not a blocker
to entering incubation.

We did an initial name search on our own and there are no collisions on
Mysos externally and we have two Mesos PMC members on the project that did
not see any problems with the name, Dave and Vinod are both on the Mesos PMC.
A note has been sent to the Mesos PMC private@ list regarding the Mysos
proposal and the project name and asked that comments be brought back to
here.

-Jake


On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:58 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz bdelacre...@apache.org
 wrote:

 On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Jake Farrell jfarr...@apache.org wrote:
[X ] -1 Do not accept Mysos into the Apache Incubator because...

 As mentioned before I think the name is too close to Mesos, especially
 taking into account the ways those names are pronounced in various
 languages.

 This is not a veto of course as this is a majority vote, and I don't
 object to the podling creation anyway, it's just the name that's
 problematic IMO.

 -Bertrand



Re: Blog policy for poddlings

2015-05-29 Thread Joe Brockmeier
On Thu, May 28, 2015, at 09:43 PM, Dave Lester wrote:
 My understanding is that only TLPs can publish to blogs.a.o.

I guess that depends on whether you mean the top-level Apache blog there
or starting a new blog.

CloudStack started its blog on blogs.apache.org while we were a podling
with (IIRC) Sally's blessing. Example here:

https://blogs.apache.org/cloudstack/tags/4.0.1-incubating

Whether that was aggregated/carried on the main site, I don't recall.
 
Best,

jzb
-- 
Joe Brockmeier
j...@zonker.net
Twitter: @jzb
http://www.dissociatedpress.net/

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Re: Sentry 1.5.0 release (was Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache TinkerPop 3.0.0.M8-incubating Release (Part Deux))

2015-05-29 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 5:26 AM, Joe Brockmeier j...@zonker.net wrote:
 On Sun, May 10, 2015, at 03:20 PM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
  Apache Sentry

 This one looks like a problem.  A vote was taken for Sentry 1.5.0 on the
 podling dev list, but there has been no vote on general@incubator.

 
 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-sentry-dev/201504.mbox/%3CCAE=hR03kUTGF3s5QCpuUj=_eyry_gsR=w6kd-pvd_-cdcru...@mail.gmail.com%3E

 It would be perfectly understandable for an individual release manager to
 misunderstand the incubating release process, but it's troubling that not
 a single podling community member spoke up.  What's going on?

 Apologies for just noticing this email, and for missing that. I'm
 looking into this, I think there may have been a misunderstanding about
 the need for IPMC votes vs. actually conducting a vote on general@.
 (IIRC all three binding +1s are IPMC members.)

Thanks, Joe.

To clarify and elaborate:

The Apache Incubator is a top-level project at the Apache Software
Foundation -- like Apache Tomcat, like Apache Lucene, like Apache HTTPD. The
Incubator makes official Apache releases following a specific process, just
like those other top-level projects do.

Release candidates prepared by incubating podlings become official Apache
releases when the Incubator releases them. This requires a vote by the
Incubator PMC.

It is not valid for a subset of any Apache PMC to approve a release candidate
without giving the entire PMC sufficient opportunity for review.  This
prevents, for example, a handful of employees from ExampleCo making a release
of Apache Foo that other members of the Foo PMC find objectionable.

While the Sentry release glitch appears to have arisen from a
misunderstanding, there have been multiple occasions in the ASF's history
where failure to understand or uphold release protocols has resulted in
distorted project governance and disenfranchised PMC members.

From time to time, you will hear people argue that the incubation process
should be reorganized and that the release votes on general@incubator should
be streamlined away.  Such arguments would be more persuasive, IMO, if it were
not routine to catch problems during the general@incubator vote phase.  In any
case, that is not the situation that exists today.

So we now have Sentry artifacts being distributed which have not been approved
by the full Incubator PMC.  A similar situation with another project was once
resolved by having the full PMC vote on the already-distributed artifacts.  In
my view, the Sentry podling should initiate such a vote, and a passing vote
would settle the issue.

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: Blog policy for poddlings

2015-05-29 Thread David Nalley
I am unaware of a policy that would prohibit a podling from having a
blog at blogs.a.o

--David

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org wrote:
 Hi!

 can someone please remind me what's the policy
 for letting poddlings use blogs.apache.org as a
 blogging platform?

 Thanks,
 Roman.

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RE: Blog policy for poddlings

2015-05-29 Thread Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)
It's not ComDev is press@

Sent from my Windows Phone

From: Roman Shaposhnikmailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org
Sent: ‎5/‎29/‎2015 7:11 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.orgmailto:general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Blog policy for poddlings

This is all very much confusing ;-) Is there any chance we can arrive
at a more consistent policy or should I ask over at comdev@ ?

Thanks,
Roman.

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote:
 When Apache MetaModel still in incubator we were asking access to post
 blog at blogs.a.o and was told that it is preferable that podlings
 wait until graduation to post in it.

 - Henry

 On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:17 AM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote:
 I am unaware of a policy that would prohibit a podling from having a
 blog at blogs.a.o

 --David

 On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org 
 wrote:
 Hi!

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 for letting poddlings use blogs.apache.org as a
 blogging platform?

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Re: Blog policy for poddlings

2015-05-29 Thread Greg Stein
To clarify one step further: podlings are not official projects, so any
outreach via apache.org (and its name/recognition) needs appropriate
messaging. That is why we have press@ :-)

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:36 PM, Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH) 
ross.gard...@microsoft.com wrote:

 It's not ComDev is press@

 Sent from my Windows Phone
 
 From: Roman Shaposhnikmailto:ro...@shaposhnik.org
 Sent: ‎5/‎29/‎2015 7:11 PM
 To: general@incubator.apache.orgmailto:general@incubator.apache.org
 Subject: Re: Blog policy for poddlings

 This is all very much confusing ;-) Is there any chance we can arrive
 at a more consistent policy or should I ask over at comdev@ ?

 Thanks,
 Roman.

 On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  When Apache MetaModel still in incubator we were asking access to post
  blog at blogs.a.o and was told that it is preferable that podlings
  wait until graduation to post in it.
 
  - Henry
 
  On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:17 AM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote:
  I am unaware of a policy that would prohibit a podling from having a
  blog at blogs.a.o
 
  --David
 
  On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org
 wrote:
  Hi!
 
  can someone please remind me what's the policy
  for letting poddlings use blogs.apache.org as a
  blogging platform?
 
  Thanks,
  Roman.
 
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Re: Blog policy for poddlings

2015-05-29 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
This is all very much confusing ;-) Is there any chance we can arrive
at a more consistent policy or should I ask over at comdev@ ?

Thanks,
Roman.

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Henry Saputra henry.sapu...@gmail.com wrote:
 When Apache MetaModel still in incubator we were asking access to post
 blog at blogs.a.o and was told that it is preferable that podlings
 wait until graduation to post in it.

 - Henry

 On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:17 AM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote:
 I am unaware of a policy that would prohibit a podling from having a
 blog at blogs.a.o

 --David

 On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org 
 wrote:
 Hi!

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Re: Blog policy for poddlings

2015-05-29 Thread Henry Saputra
When Apache MetaModel still in incubator we were asking access to post
blog at blogs.a.o and was told that it is preferable that podlings
wait until graduation to post in it.

- Henry

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:17 AM, David Nalley da...@gnsa.us wrote:
 I am unaware of a policy that would prohibit a podling from having a
 blog at blogs.a.o

 --David

 On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org 
 wrote:
 Hi!

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 for letting poddlings use blogs.apache.org as a
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