Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Ignite 1.2.0 release (RC2)

2015-06-29 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Yakov Zhdanov yzhda...@apache.org wrote:
 Guys,

It's nice to be informal, but we're not just guys. :)

 Voting for 1.2 has passed with 3 votes for (+1) and 1 +0 vote.

Congrats!

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Ignite 1.2.0 release (RC2)

2015-06-29 Thread Branko Čibej
On 29.06.2015 15:36, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
 On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Yakov Zhdanov yzhda...@apache.org wrote:
 Guys,
 It's nice to be informal, but we're not just guys. :)

Aye; next time, please address mails to laddies and gentlemen. :)

-- Brane


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Re: Last chance to tell your story at ApacheCON EU 2015

2015-06-29 Thread Sravya Tirukkovalur
Thanks for reminding us podlings of opportunity to grow the community
through the conference!

I already submitted a talk on Sentry, would also like to do a speed date.

I am not able to update the wiki here. Can some one update it for me please
or give me permission to do so? (id:sravya)
https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACEU15Incubator

Thanks!

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 12:42 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:

 On 29 June 2015 at 10:33, Don Bosco Durai bo...@apache.org wrote:

  Can I have write permission (wiki id=bosco) or someone update the wiki
 for
  me?
 
  Don Bosco Durai - Apache Ranger
 
  I am still not sure who will talk, but can we put mine as a place holder
  for now?
 
 please remember that for a full talk you need to submit a proposal
 http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-core-europe/
 including a speaker name.

 hint: 36 hours to go.
 thanks in advance
 rgds
 jan i.



  Thanks
  Bosco
 
 
  On 6/29/15, 10:09 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:
 
  On 29 June 2015 at 01:28, Anatole Tresch atsti...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Hi all
  
   I proposed to talk on Tamaya. I would also do a speed date on
 Tamaya,
  but
   unfortunately I cannot update:
   https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACEU15Incubator
   Can somebody do this for me, or give the rights todo so (UID:
   AnatoleTresch)?
  
  updated
  
  have fun
  jan i.
  
  
   Thanks,
   Anatole
  
  
   2015-06-27 23:10 GMT+02:00 Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org:
  
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Pierre Smits 
 pierre.sm...@gmail.com
  
wrote:
 Roman,

 There is a talk in preparation regarding Trafodion.
   
Great! Once it it submitted, could you please update the wiki?
   
Thanks,
Roman.
   
   
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Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

2015-06-29 Thread Gavin Li
Hi Roman,

I've taken a brief look at Geode. Pistachio and Geode both can support
similar in-memory consistent HA distributed storage, and the data aware
function routing idea is also similar. Here are what I think are different:

1. Pistachio actually uses a very different approach to resolve the
problem. Pistachio leverages Apache Helix to do partition management and
Apache Kafka as a WAL implementation to leverage the rich features and
great performances in those systems.
2. Pistachio supports simple plugin of different storage engines like pure
memory or different disk based local storage engines like kyoto cabinet or
Rocks DB. On our production we mainly used kyoto cabinet based SSD storage
system to optimize for read to resolve the low latency high volume read
problem in RTB applications.

Thanks,
Gavin Li

On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 8:25 PM, Gavin Li lyo.ga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Roman,

 I think Pistachio is similar to Ignite in the sense that they both try to
 distribute the computation to storage to co-locate the data and
 computation. One difference might be Pistachio also supports other storage
 options like disk based storage to support longer term durability. Actually
 Pistachio was originally developed as a storage system of SSD disk and has
 been used on our large scale production serving system with SSD disk.

 We're not that familiar with Geode, I'll look into it and provide some
 detailed comparisons.

 Thanks,
 Gavin Li



 On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org
 wrote:

 On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Gavin Li lyo.ga...@gmail.com wrote:
  The other difference is in Pistachio we can do computation based on
  in-memory storage with data replication. Different from the in-memory
  computation in Spark, the storage can be in-memory here.

 Have you guys looked at in-memory computation layers offered by
 Ignite and Geode? I would love to know what you think about those.

 Thanks,
 Roman.

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Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

2015-06-29 Thread Gavin Li
Hi Andrew,

I agree with you. I've updated the proposal to include a little bit more
explanations about the difference with Hadoop.

Purely pursuing novelty is never our interest. Instead I believe even for
the same problem different design and implementation ideas can make big
difference. I think that's why there are many internal competitions in
ASF. Having looked at other systems like Ignite and Geode I believe
Pistachio is still quite different in design and implementation when
solving some common problems like in-memory distributed storage and
co-locating computation and data.

Thanks,
Gavin Li

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org
wrote:

 Thanks Gavin.

 Please let me suggest that novelty is not a requirement for incubation, and
 a proposal doesn't need to make claims of novelty to be accepted.

 Should the proposal be accepted for incubation, you may find your new
 neighbors at Apache can do X where you weren't aware of it. It will be
 totally up to the new podling if you want to survey the landscape when
 figuring out how to differentiate, but I do recommend it, it may help you
 crystallize a community around a real difference and advantage provided by
 Pistachio.


 On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Gavin Li lyo.ga...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi Andrew,
 
  As we described more in
 
 
 http://yahooeng.tumblr.com/post/116291838351/pistachio-co-locate-the-data-and-compute-for
  ,
  a very common problem we saw in Hadoop use cases is we often need to
  persist the previous result of one map reduce job onto HDFS, then the
 next
  day we process the new data together with the previous result. Usually
 the
  most expensive part is the shuffling part where we need to join the
  previous data and the new data together. It's so expensive because HDFS
  doesn't store the data in a partitioned way. So data have to be
 transferred
  again and again in the shuffling phase. Instead, in Pistachio we do the
  computation right on top of the partitioned storage layer, so that the
  previous result is always stored in a partitioned way, so shuffling can
 be
  avoided. Expensive IO and roundtrips can thus be avoided so that much
  better performance can be achieved.
 
  The other difference is in Pistachio we can do computation based on
  in-memory storage with data replication. Different from the in-memory
  computation in Spark, the storage can be in-memory here.
 
  Please let me know if I'm not clear enough.
 
  Thanks,
  Gavin Li
 
  On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org
  wrote:
 
   It was a simple question, and not meant to suggest anything one way or
   other regarding my opinion of this proposal.
  
   On Monday, June 22, 2015, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org wrote:
  
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:26 PM Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org
javascript:; wrote:
   
  Pistachio can easily embed computation to the storage layer to
   achieve
 the
  best data locality to improve the computation performance
   significantly
  which is an innovative model comparing with the normal ways where
  the
  storage and compute are independent to each other.

 Have you heard of something called Hadoop?

   
Regardless of whether he has or not - what's your point? The ASF has
historically not denied the entry of new projects just because their
   domain
intersects with another project's.
   
   


 On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Gavin Li lyo.ga...@gmail.com
javascript:; wrote:

  Hi,
 
  I want to propose project Pistachio to enter Apache Incubator.
 
  Below please find the proposal.
 
  Thanks,
  Gavin Li
 
 
 
  = Pistachio =
 
  == Abstract ==
 
  Pistachio is a fault-tolerant low latency distributed storage
  system
 which
  enables simple embedding the computation to the storage layer to
achieve
  best data locality. It evolves from Yahoo’s global user profile
   storage
  system.
 
  == Proposal ==
 
  Pistachio is a distributed key value store system with fault
   tolerance
 and
  consistency guarantee. It supports multiple local storage engine
 including
  in-memory, kyoto cabinet, rocks DB etc. Pistachio is being used
 as
   the
 user
  profile storage for massive scale global ads products in Yahoo
   storing
 10+
  billion user profiles. The performance and reliability has been
  well
 proven
  on production.
 
  Pistachio can easily embed computation to the storage layer to
   achieve
 the
  best data locality to improve the computation performance
   significantly
  which is an innovative model comparing with the normal ways where
  the
  storage and compute are independent to each other.
 
  == Background ==
 
  Pistachio is originally designed and optimized for Yahoo’s large
   scale
  global open 

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Usergrid 1.0.2 (incubating) RC3

2015-06-29 Thread John D. Ament
Shouldn't this close Thursday at 2200 UTC ?

Either way +1 binding.
On Jun 29, 2015 16:13, Dave snoopd...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Usergrid PPMC has voted to release Usergrid 1.0.2.

 Incubator PMC members please review and vote. Vote will close Wednesday
 July 1 at 10:11 UTC.

 Here is the vote thread:


 http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-usergrid-dev/201506.mbox/%3ccaf1aazbhq7jrvbpnv9wgui_f-hla7pxoeaetgsp6spuy43b...@mail.gmail.com%3e

 And here is the release information:

 All,

 I have removed the ARSMaquette font files and made the LICENSE and NOTICE
 file fixes that Justin Mclean pointed out. Thanks Justin! I tested the
 portal and it seems to work fine without those files.

 I propose that we accept the following release candidate as the official
 Apache Usergrid 1.0.2 release.

 Usergrid 1.0.2-rc3 includes the following:
 ---
 The CHANGELOG for the release is available at:

 https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-usergrid.gitf=CHANGELOGhb=1.0.2-rc3
 The branch used to create the release candidate is:

 https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-usergrid.githb=1.0.2-rc3

 The current Git commit ID is 5456bfc57329d4a18998c511d0559e0a6cfe5461

 The release candidate is available at:

 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/usergrid/1.0.2-rc3/apache-usergrid-1.0.2-rc3-incubating.tar.gz

 The MD5 checksum of the release candidate can be found at:

 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/usergrid/1.0.2-rc3/apache-usergrid-1.0.2-rc3-incubating.tar.gz.md5

 The signature of the release candidate can be found at:

 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/usergrid/1.0.2-rc3/apache-usergrid-1.0.2-rc3-incubating.tar.gz.asc

 The GPG key used to sign the release are available at:
 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/usergrid/KEYS

 Please download, verify, and test.




   On June 26, 2015 at 1:01:02 PM, Dave (snoopd...@gmail.com) wrote:
   All,
   I have removed the ARSMaquette font files and made the LICENSE and
 NOTICE
   file fixes that Justin Mclean pointed out. Thanks Justin! I tested the
   portal and it seems to work fine without those files.
   I propose that we accept the following release candidate as the
 official
   Apache Usergrid 1.0.2 release.
   Usergrid 1.0.2-rc3 includes the following:
   ---
   The CHANGELOG for the release is available at:
  
 
 https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-usergrid.gitf=CHANGELOGhb=1.0.2-rc3
   The branch used to create the release candidate is:
  
 
 https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-usergrid.githb=1.0.2-rc3
   The current Git commit ID is 5456bfc57329d4a18998c511d0559e0a6cfe5461
   The release candidate is available at:
  
 
 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/usergrid/1.0.2-rc3/apache-usergrid-1.0.2-rc3-incubating.tar.gz
   The MD5 checksum of the release candidate can be found at:
  
 
 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/usergrid/1.0.2-rc3/apache-usergrid-1.0.2-rc3-incubating.tar.gz.md5
   The signature of the release candidate can be found at:
  
 
 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/usergrid/1.0.2-rc3/apache-usergrid-1.0.2-rc3-incubating.tar.gz.asc
   The GPG key used to sign the release are available at:
   https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/usergrid/KEYS
   Please download, verify, and test.
   The vote will close on Mon Jun 29 14:36:55 EDT 2015
   [ ] +1 Release this as Apache Usergrid 1.0.2
   [ ] +0
   [ ] -1 Do not release this as Apache Usergrid 1.0.2 because...



[VOTE] Release Apache Usergrid 1.0.2 (incubating) RC3

2015-06-29 Thread Dave
The Usergrid PPMC has voted to release Usergrid 1.0.2.

Incubator PMC members please review and vote. Vote will close Wednesday
July 1 at 10:11 UTC.

Here is the vote thread:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-usergrid-dev/201506.mbox/%3ccaf1aazbhq7jrvbpnv9wgui_f-hla7pxoeaetgsp6spuy43b...@mail.gmail.com%3e

And here is the release information:

All,

I have removed the ARSMaquette font files and made the LICENSE and NOTICE
file fixes that Justin Mclean pointed out. Thanks Justin! I tested the
portal and it seems to work fine without those files.

I propose that we accept the following release candidate as the official
Apache Usergrid 1.0.2 release.

Usergrid 1.0.2-rc3 includes the following:
---
The CHANGELOG for the release is available at:
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-usergrid.gitf=CHANGELOGhb=1.0.2-rc3
The branch used to create the release candidate is:
https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-usergrid.githb=1.0.2-rc3

The current Git commit ID is 5456bfc57329d4a18998c511d0559e0a6cfe5461

The release candidate is available at:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/usergrid/1.0.2-rc3/apache-usergrid-1.0.2-rc3-incubating.tar.gz

The MD5 checksum of the release candidate can be found at:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/usergrid/1.0.2-rc3/apache-usergrid-1.0.2-rc3-incubating.tar.gz.md5

The signature of the release candidate can be found at:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/usergrid/1.0.2-rc3/apache-usergrid-1.0.2-rc3-incubating.tar.gz.asc

The GPG key used to sign the release are available at:
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/usergrid/KEYS

Please download, verify, and test.




  On June 26, 2015 at 1:01:02 PM, Dave (snoopd...@gmail.com) wrote:
  All,
  I have removed the ARSMaquette font files and made the LICENSE and NOTICE
  file fixes that Justin Mclean pointed out. Thanks Justin! I tested the
  portal and it seems to work fine without those files.
  I propose that we accept the following release candidate as the official
  Apache Usergrid 1.0.2 release.
  Usergrid 1.0.2-rc3 includes the following:
  ---
  The CHANGELOG for the release is available at:
 
 https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-usergrid.gitf=CHANGELOGhb=1.0.2-rc3
  The branch used to create the release candidate is:
 
 https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=incubator-usergrid.githb=1.0.2-rc3
  The current Git commit ID is 5456bfc57329d4a18998c511d0559e0a6cfe5461
  The release candidate is available at:
 
 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/usergrid/1.0.2-rc3/apache-usergrid-1.0.2-rc3-incubating.tar.gz
  The MD5 checksum of the release candidate can be found at:
 
 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/usergrid/1.0.2-rc3/apache-usergrid-1.0.2-rc3-incubating.tar.gz.md5
  The signature of the release candidate can be found at:
 
 https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/usergrid/1.0.2-rc3/apache-usergrid-1.0.2-rc3-incubating.tar.gz.asc
  The GPG key used to sign the release are available at:
  https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/usergrid/KEYS
  Please download, verify, and test.
  The vote will close on Mon Jun 29 14:36:55 EDT 2015
  [ ] +1 Release this as Apache Usergrid 1.0.2
  [ ] +0
  [ ] -1 Do not release this as Apache Usergrid 1.0.2 because...


Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Ignite 1.2.0 release (RC2)

2015-06-29 Thread Yakov Zhdanov
Here are the votes received:

+1:

   - Branko Cibej (binding)
   - Konstantin Boudnik (binding)
   - Roman Shaposhnik (binding)
   - Gianfranco Murador
   - Sergi Vladykin
   - Alexey Goncharuk
   - Valentin Kulichenko
   - Semyon Boikov

+0:

   - Justin Mclean (binding)


--Yakov

2015-06-28 22:56 GMT-07:00 Yakov Zhdanov yzhda...@apache.org:

 Guys,

 Voting for 1.2 has passed with 3 votes for (+1) and 1 +0 vote.

 The pointed issue will be fixed and new release will be submitted shortly,

 Thanks!

 --Yakov



Re: Last chance to tell your story at ApacheCON EU 2015

2015-06-29 Thread jan i
On 29 June 2015 at 10:33, Don Bosco Durai bo...@apache.org wrote:

 Can I have write permission (wiki id=bosco) or someone update the wiki for
 me?

 Don Bosco Durai - Apache Ranger

 I am still not sure who will talk, but can we put mine as a place holder
 for now?

please remember that for a full talk you need to submit a proposal
http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/apachecon-core-europe/
including a speaker name.

hint: 36 hours to go.
thanks in advance
rgds
jan i.



 Thanks
 Bosco


 On 6/29/15, 10:09 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:

 On 29 June 2015 at 01:28, Anatole Tresch atsti...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi all
 
  I proposed to talk on Tamaya. I would also do a speed date on Tamaya,
 but
  unfortunately I cannot update:
  https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACEU15Incubator
  Can somebody do this for me, or give the rights todo so (UID:
  AnatoleTresch)?
 
 updated
 
 have fun
 jan i.
 
 
  Thanks,
  Anatole
 
 
  2015-06-27 23:10 GMT+02:00 Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org:
 
   On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com
 
   wrote:
Roman,
   
There is a talk in preparation regarding Trafodion.
  
   Great! Once it it submitted, could you please update the wiki?
  
   Thanks,
   Roman.
  
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[RESULT][VOTE] Release Apache Atlas version 0.5-incubating

2015-06-29 Thread Seetharam Venkatesh
Hi folks,

Thanks for taking time to review and vote on this release.  The vote passes
with five binding +1's, six non-binding +1s and no 0/-1's.

Binding:
Amareshwari Sriramdasu
Arun C Murthy
Jakob Homan
Justin Mclean
Chris Douglas

Non-binding:
Jon Maron
Arpit Gupta
Harish Butani
Suma Shivaprasad
Venkat Ranganathan
Seetharam Venkatesh

I'll start working on the release artifacts and then announce the release
to this list.

Thanks!

Regards,
Venkatesh


Re: Last chance to tell your story at ApacheCON EU 2015

2015-06-29 Thread jan i
On 29 June 2015 at 01:28, Anatole Tresch atsti...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all

 I proposed to talk on Tamaya. I would also do a speed date on Tamaya, but
 unfortunately I cannot update:
 https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACEU15Incubator
 Can somebody do this for me, or give the rights todo so (UID:
 AnatoleTresch)?

updated

have fun
jan i.


 Thanks,
 Anatole


 2015-06-27 23:10 GMT+02:00 Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org:

  On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Roman,
  
   There is a talk in preparation regarding Trafodion.
 
  Great! Once it it submitted, could you please update the wiki?
 
  Thanks,
  Roman.
 
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Re: Last chance to tell your story at ApacheCON EU 2015

2015-06-29 Thread Don Bosco Durai
Can I have write permission (wiki id=bosco) or someone update the wiki for
me?

Don Bosco Durai - Apache Ranger

I am still not sure who will talk, but can we put mine as a place holder
for now?

Thanks

Bosco


On 6/29/15, 10:09 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:

On 29 June 2015 at 01:28, Anatole Tresch atsti...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all

 I proposed to talk on Tamaya. I would also do a speed date on Tamaya,
but
 unfortunately I cannot update:
 https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ACEU15Incubator
 Can somebody do this for me, or give the rights todo so (UID:
 AnatoleTresch)?

updated

have fun
jan i.


 Thanks,
 Anatole


 2015-06-27 23:10 GMT+02:00 Roman Shaposhnik ro...@shaposhnik.org:

  On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Pierre Smits pierre.sm...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   Roman,
  
   There is a talk in preparation regarding Trafodion.
 
  Great! Once it it submitted, could you please update the wiki?
 
  Thanks,
  Roman.
 
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Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

2015-06-29 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi Gavin!

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Gavin Li lyo.ga...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Roman,

 I've taken a brief look at Geode. Pistachio and Geode both can support
 similar in-memory consistent HA distributed storage, and the data aware
 function routing idea is also similar. Here are what I think are different:

 1. Pistachio actually uses a very different approach to resolve the
 problem. Pistachio leverages Apache Helix to do partition management and
 Apache Kafka as a WAL implementation to leverage the rich features and
 great performances in those systems.
 2. Pistachio supports simple plugin of different storage engines like pure
 memory or different disk based local storage engines like kyoto cabinet or
 Rocks DB. On our production we mainly used kyoto cabinet based SSD storage
 system to optimize for read to resolve the low latency high volume read
 problem in RTB applications.

This is *really* useful to know. Thank you so much for taking time
and providing this compare-n-contrast. Helps me a great deal to know
where Pistachio is coming from.

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: [PROPOSAL]Pistachio

2015-06-29 Thread jan i
Hi

I can for sure follow the argument that different design ideas around a
problem complex
leads to different implementations.

My concern is a little bit different. I assume that the developers are in
general more
interested in the problem complex than the design. If I am correct such
projects
will be competing for the same developer, and might find it hard to grow.

I respect internal competition it can be very fruitful, we just need to
make sure
that we don´t split a good community into smaller communities that are too
small
to survive.

just my little concern after having read the last couple of emails.

rgds
jan i.


On 29 June 2015 at 20:53, Gavin Li lyo.ga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Andrew,

 I agree with you. I've updated the proposal to include a little bit more
 explanations about the difference with Hadoop.

 Purely pursuing novelty is never our interest. Instead I believe even for
 the same problem different design and implementation ideas can make big
 difference. I think that's why there are many internal competitions in
 ASF. Having looked at other systems like Ignite and Geode I believe
 Pistachio is still quite different in design and implementation when
 solving some common problems like in-memory distributed storage and
 co-locating computation and data.

 Thanks,
 Gavin Li

 On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org
 wrote:

  Thanks Gavin.
 
  Please let me suggest that novelty is not a requirement for incubation,
 and
  a proposal doesn't need to make claims of novelty to be accepted.
 
  Should the proposal be accepted for incubation, you may find your new
  neighbors at Apache can do X where you weren't aware of it. It will be
  totally up to the new podling if you want to survey the landscape when
  figuring out how to differentiate, but I do recommend it, it may help you
  crystallize a community around a real difference and advantage provided
 by
  Pistachio.
 
 
  On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Gavin Li lyo.ga...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi Andrew,
  
   As we described more in
  
  
 
 http://yahooeng.tumblr.com/post/116291838351/pistachio-co-locate-the-data-and-compute-for
   ,
   a very common problem we saw in Hadoop use cases is we often need to
   persist the previous result of one map reduce job onto HDFS, then the
  next
   day we process the new data together with the previous result. Usually
  the
   most expensive part is the shuffling part where we need to join the
   previous data and the new data together. It's so expensive because HDFS
   doesn't store the data in a partitioned way. So data have to be
  transferred
   again and again in the shuffling phase. Instead, in Pistachio we do the
   computation right on top of the partitioned storage layer, so that the
   previous result is always stored in a partitioned way, so shuffling can
  be
   avoided. Expensive IO and roundtrips can thus be avoided so that much
   better performance can be achieved.
  
   The other difference is in Pistachio we can do computation based on
   in-memory storage with data replication. Different from the in-memory
   computation in Spark, the storage can be in-memory here.
  
   Please let me know if I'm not clear enough.
  
   Thanks,
   Gavin Li
  
   On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 7:53 PM, Andrew Purtell apurt...@apache.org
   wrote:
  
It was a simple question, and not meant to suggest anything one way
 or
other regarding my opinion of this proposal.
   
On Monday, June 22, 2015, John D. Ament johndam...@apache.org
 wrote:
   
 On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:26 PM Andrew Purtell 
 apurt...@apache.org
 javascript:; wrote:

   Pistachio can easily embed computation to the storage layer to
achieve
  the
   best data locality to improve the computation performance
significantly
   which is an innovative model comparing with the normal ways
 where
   the
   storage and compute are independent to each other.
 
  Have you heard of something called Hadoop?
 

 Regardless of whether he has or not - what's your point? The ASF
 has
 historically not denied the entry of new projects just because
 their
domain
 intersects with another project's.


 
 
  On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Gavin Li lyo.ga...@gmail.com
 javascript:; wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   I want to propose project Pistachio to enter Apache Incubator.
  
   Below please find the proposal.
  
   Thanks,
   Gavin Li
  
  
  
   = Pistachio =
  
   == Abstract ==
  
   Pistachio is a fault-tolerant low latency distributed storage
   system
  which
   enables simple embedding the computation to the storage layer
 to
 achieve
   best data locality. It evolves from Yahoo’s global user profile
storage
   system.
  
   == Proposal ==
  
   Pistachio is a distributed key value store system with fault
tolerance
 

Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Apache Ignite 1.2.0 release (RC2)

2015-06-29 Thread Pierre Smits
Ladies would be even better. :-)

Op maandag 29 juni 2015 heeft Branko Čibej br...@apache.org het volgende
geschreven:

 On 29.06.2015 15:36, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
  On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Yakov Zhdanov yzhda...@apache.org
 javascript:; wrote:
  Guys,
  It's nice to be informal, but we're not just guys. :)

 Aye; next time, please address mails to laddies and gentlemen. :)

 -- Brane


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