Re: [graduation] Maturity model-based assessment of Groovy for its graduation

2015-10-18 Thread Martijn Dashorst
-1 on requiring all projects to do this exercise. It is not policy,
and frankly as a volunteer organization we can let the communities
themselves determine whether this is something they want to spend
their time on.

I thought we were a community for/over code, not a bureaucracy for/over code.

If/when a community finds itself in a hard spot, perhaps *then* it is
valuable to assess the maturity model, to see how/what can be improved
upon. But requiring this of all projects? With a deadline too?

Martijn


On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Emmanuel Lécharny  wrote:
> Le 15/10/15 11:46, Bertrand Delacretaz a écrit :
>> Hi Incubator PMC,
>>
>> FYI I have started an experiment at
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-groovy/blob/master/MATURITY.adoc ,
>> using our maturity model to evaluate Groovy before its mentors suggest
>> its graduation (which should happen very soon).
>>
>> So far this has helped uncover a few issues that we (at least I)
>> hadn't noticed otherwise. Nothing major, but interesting, and I think
>> it can be useful for the IPMC and Board once they have to decide to
>> graduate the podling.
>
> That's an interesting exercise !
>
> Having read the document Betrand has completed for Groovy, I do think
> that an audit of all the existing TLP should be done in the next month
> to check if all the iterms are correctly fullfiled. I suspect we would
> be surprised...
>
>
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Re: [graduation] Maturity model-based assessment of Groovy for its graduation

2015-10-18 Thread Sam Ruby
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Joe Schaefer  wrote:
> Just looked over Bertrand's document and I must say while I had high
> expectations Bertrand has managed to surpass them.  That this is a
> functional and itemized list of details is just perfect- even better that
> there are citations and references along with it!
>
> Excellent job Bertrand!

Ditto.  I wish more of the pushback identified specific questions that
were over the top or overkill.  I can honestly say that I didn't find
any.  Some (like the licensing questions) may need to be tweaked over
time (e.g., I personally am aware of a number of projects with non
optional dependency on a JDK), but that can be worked over time.

In particular, this document isn't a "metric", is is more of a
checklist, with common sense things like "is the code open source, are
dependencies OK, have you made releases, is voting working smoothly,
is the community interdependent of external influences".  Nor are the
questions pass/fail.

While this is indeed an all volunteer organization, I will submit that
those that vote on graduation matters and those that vote on Establish
resolutions are also volunteers; and making this information available
at the times of those votes will save a considerable amount of
volunteer effort.

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Re: [graduation] Maturity model-based assessment of Groovy for its graduation

2015-10-18 Thread Emmanuel Lécharny
Le 18/10/15 10:48, Martijn Dashorst a écrit :
> -1 on requiring all projects to do this exercise. It is not policy,
> and frankly as a volunteer organization we can let the communities
> themselves determine whether this is something they want to spend
> their time on.

Well, I unerstand your concerns, but it seems odd that we engage podling
to go through such a process that we haven't asked the TLP to do in the
past, and not check that the TLPs at large are compliant with such a
check list.
>
> I thought we were a community for/over code, not a bureaucracy for/over code.

As a community focused foundation, I'd rather see such an exercise as a
reinsurance for the larger community that are our users that we do
fulfill The ASF expectations in various areas. Calling that bureaucratcy
is a bit like saying the checklist every pilot is doing before take off
a spurious and annoying task...
>
> If/when a community finds itself in a hard spot, perhaps *then* it is
> valuable to assess the maturity model, to see how/what can be improved
> upon. But requiring this of all projects? With a deadline too?

Would'nt it be too late ? Wouldn't it be a better idea to check
peridodically that no hard spot is appearing ? Fixing a community is way
more difficult than anticipating potential pitfalls that can derail the
process later on...

But that might just be me...


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Re: 回复: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator

2015-10-18 Thread Li Yang
+1  :-)

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Saha, Debashis  wrote:

> +1
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 蒋旭 [mailto:jiangxu.ch...@qq.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:23 AM
> To: general
> Subject: 回复: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
>
> +1
> Jiang Xu
> -- 原始邮件 --
> 发件人: "Henry Saputra";;
> 发送时间: 2015年10月16日(星期五) 上午9:16
> 收件人: "general@incubator.apache.org";
>
> 主题: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
>
>
>
> +1 (binding)
>
> On Thursday, October 15, 2015, Luke Han  wrote:
>
> > The Apache Kylin community and project made significant advances
> > during the incubating (from Nov 2014) and believes it is ready to
> > graduate as a top-level project.
> >
> > The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added 6
> > committers and 2 mentors) and  increased diversity in the past year.
> > Released 3 version in the past 6 months. There were presentations
> > about Apache Kylin at most of the big conferences of the world
> > (including Strata+Hadoop World London, Hadoop Summit San Jose,
> > ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology
> > Conference
> > China) and some meetups (Bay Area,
> > Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many talks
> > around the world.
> > The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per
> > month now.
> > The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from
> > contributors/committers have been merged into code base.
> >
> > A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please find
> > below references to the graduation preparation artifacts:
> > * discussion on dev list [1]
> > * vote thread [2]
> > * podling name search [3]
> > * incubation status [4]
> > * proposed resolution below
> >
> > We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project and if
> > the IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote.
> > There are a few more items to be updated on the project status page
> > and others during the next couple of days.
> >
> >
> > Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, Luke Han (on
> > behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC)
> >
> > [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate
> > [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote
> > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86
> > [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Apache Kylin top-level project resolution:
> > ===
> >
> >WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> >public, relative to distributed and scalable OLAP engine
> >
> >NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kylin Project",
> >be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >Foundation; and be it further
> >
> >RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is
> >responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
> >software related to distributed and scalable OLAP engine;
> >and be it further
> >
> >RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Kylin" be and
> >hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
> >the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
> >Apache Kylin Project, and to have primary responsibility for
> >management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
> >of the Apache Kylin Project; and be it further
> >
> >RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >Apache Kylin Project:
> >
> > * Dayue Gao 
> > * Jason Zhong 
> > * Julian Hyde 
> > * Luke Han 
> > * Henry Saputra 
> > * Hongbin Ma 
> > * Hua Huang 
> > * Owen O'Malley 
> > * P. Taylor Goetz 
> > * Qianhao Zhou 
> > * Shaofeng Shi 
> > * Song Yi 
> > * Ted Dunning 
> > * Xu Jiang 
> > * Yang Li 
> > * Yerui Sun < sunyerui at apache dot org>
> >
> >
> >NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Luke Han
> >be appointed to the office of Vice President,Apache Kylin, to
> serve
> >in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
> >Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
> >resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
> >a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >
> >RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Kylin Project be and hereby
> >is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws

Re: 回复: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator

2015-10-18 Thread Edward J. Yoon
+1 (binding)

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Li Yang  wrote:
> +1  :-)
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 7:17 AM, Saha, Debashis  wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 蒋旭 [mailto:jiangxu.ch...@qq.com]
>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2015 1:23 AM
>> To: general
>> Subject: 回复: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
>>
>> +1
>> Jiang Xu
>> -- 原始邮件 --
>> 发件人: "Henry Saputra";;
>> 发送时间: 2015年10月16日(星期五) 上午9:16
>> 收件人: "general@incubator.apache.org";
>>
>> 主题: Re: [VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
>>
>>
>>
>> +1 (binding)
>>
>> On Thursday, October 15, 2015, Luke Han  wrote:
>>
>> > The Apache Kylin community and project made significant advances
>> > during the incubating (from Nov 2014) and believes it is ready to
>> > graduate as a top-level project.
>> >
>> > The Apache Kylin is very active. The PPMC doubled in size (added 6
>> > committers and 2 mentors) and  increased diversity in the past year.
>> > Released 3 version in the past 6 months. There were presentations
>> > about Apache Kylin at most of the big conferences of the world
>> > (including Strata+Hadoop World London, Hadoop Summit San Jose,
>> > ApacheCon EU, Big Data Technology China, Database Technology
>> > Conference
>> > China) and some meetups (Bay Area,
>> > Beijing and one is coming in this weekend in Shanghai), and many talks
>> > around the world.
>> > The dev mailing list is growing very month, about 500+ topics per
>> > month now.
>> > The community created 1000+ JIRA tickets, many patches from
>> > contributors/committers have been merged into code base.
>> >
>> > A vote passed unanimously on the dev@ list (27 +1 votes). Please find
>> > below references to the graduation preparation artifacts:
>> > * discussion on dev list [1]
>> > * vote thread [2]
>> > * podling name search [3]
>> > * incubation status [4]
>> > * proposed resolution below
>> >
>> > We believe Apache Kylin is ready to become a top-level project and if
>> > the IPMC agree we will move to a formal vote.
>> > There are a few more items to be updated on the project status page
>> > and others during the next couple of days.
>> >
>> >
>> > Many thanks to the mentors and the IPMC for the support, Luke Han (on
>> > behalf of the Apache Kylin PPMC)
>> >
>> > [1] http://s.apache.org/KylinDisGraduate
>> > [2] http://s.apache.org/KylinGraduateVote
>> > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-86
>> > [4] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/kylin.html
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Apache Kylin top-level project resolution:
>> > ===
>> >
>> >WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>> >interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>> >Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>> >Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>> >open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
>> >public, relative to distributed and scalable OLAP engine
>> >
>> >NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>> >Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Kylin Project",
>> >be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>> >Foundation; and be it further
>> >
>> >RESOLVED, that the Apache Kylin Project be and hereby is
>> >responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
>> >software related to distributed and scalable OLAP engine;
>> >and be it further
>> >
>> >RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Kylin" be and
>> >hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at
>> >the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the
>> >Apache Kylin Project, and to have primary responsibility for
>> >management of the projects within the scope of responsibility
>> >of the Apache Kylin Project; and be it further
>> >
>> >RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>> >hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>> >Apache Kylin Project:
>> >
>> > * Dayue Gao 
>> > * Jason Zhong 
>> > * Julian Hyde 
>> > * Luke Han 
>> > * Henry Saputra 
>> > * Hongbin Ma 
>> > * Hua Huang 
>> > * Owen O'Malley 
>> > * P. Taylor Goetz 
>> > * Qianhao Zhou 
>> > * Shaofeng Shi 
>> > * Song Yi 
>> > * Ted Dunning 
>> > * Xu Jiang 
>> > * Yang Li 
>> > * Yerui Sun < sunyerui at apache dot org>
>> >
>> >
>> >NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Luke Han
>> >be appointed to the office of Vice President,Apache Kylin, to
>> serve
>> >in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of
>> >Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
>> >resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or unti

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Kylin 1.1-incubating (rc1)

2015-10-18 Thread Li Yang
+1

Checksum is correct.

Unit test passed on java version "1.7.0_71", OpenJDK Runtime Environment
(rhel-2.5.3.1.el6-x86_64 u71-b14)


On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Luke Han  wrote:

> +1
>
> MD5 & SHA1 checksum verified
> License files are all there
>
> Unit Test passed
>
>
>
> Best Regards!
> -
>
> Luke Han
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 9:42 AM, ShaoFeng Shi 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The Apache Kylin community has voted on and approved a proposal to
> release
> > Apache Kylin 1.1-incubating.
> >
> > Proposal:http://s.apache.org/Jzu
> >
> > Vote result:
> > 7 binding +1 votes
> > 6 non-binding +1 votes
> > No -1 voteshttp://s.apache.org/kylin-1.1-result_rc1
> >
> >
> > The commit to be voted
> > upon:
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/1955a2f9aea7b7f608f0496c00807715ea4246a5
> >
> > Its hash is 1955a2f9aea7b7f608f0496c00807715ea4246a5.
> >
> > The artifacts to be voted on are located
> > here:
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/kylin/apache-kylin-1.1-incubating-rc1/
> >
> > The hashes of the artifacts are as follows:
> > apache-kylin-1.1-incubating-src.tar.gz.md5
> 18dfbb012e1eb807b1a5c1b134a537aa
> > apache-kylin-1.1-incubating-src.tar.gz.sha1
> > 041ee010c67a0b5611d9dd06f7fd6f37388c5374
> >
> > A staged Maven repository is available for review
> > at:
> https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekylin-1012/
> >
> > Release artifacts are signed with the following
> > key:https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/shaofengshi.asc
> >
> > Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy and with
> > the endorsement of our mentors we would now like to request
> > the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the release. The vote
> > is open for 72 hours, or until the necessary number of votes (3 +1)
> > is reached.
> >
> > [ ] +1 Release this package
> > [ ]  0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
> > [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
> >
> >
> > Shaofeng Shi, on behalf of Apache Kylin ppmcshaofeng...@apache.org
> >
>


Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Kylin 1.1-incubating (rc1)

2015-10-18 Thread hongbin ma
+1

unit test passed on my CI

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Li Yang  wrote:

> +1
>
> Checksum is correct.
>
> Unit test passed on java version "1.7.0_71", OpenJDK Runtime Environment
> (rhel-2.5.3.1.el6-x86_64 u71-b14)
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:00 AM, Luke Han  wrote:
>
> > +1
> >
> > MD5 & SHA1 checksum verified
> > License files are all there
> >
> > Unit Test passed
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards!
> > -
> >
> > Luke Han
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 9:42 AM, ShaoFeng Shi 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > The Apache Kylin community has voted on and approved a proposal to
> > release
> > > Apache Kylin 1.1-incubating.
> > >
> > > Proposal:http://s.apache.org/Jzu
> > >
> > > Vote result:
> > > 7 binding +1 votes
> > > 6 non-binding +1 votes
> > > No -1 voteshttp://s.apache.org/kylin-1.1-result_rc1
> > >
> > >
> > > The commit to be voted
> > > upon:
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/1955a2f9aea7b7f608f0496c00807715ea4246a5
> > >
> > > Its hash is 1955a2f9aea7b7f608f0496c00807715ea4246a5.
> > >
> > > The artifacts to be voted on are located
> > > here:
> > >
> >
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/kylin/apache-kylin-1.1-incubating-rc1/
> > >
> > > The hashes of the artifacts are as follows:
> > > apache-kylin-1.1-incubating-src.tar.gz.md5
> > 18dfbb012e1eb807b1a5c1b134a537aa
> > > apache-kylin-1.1-incubating-src.tar.gz.sha1
> > > 041ee010c67a0b5611d9dd06f7fd6f37388c5374
> > >
> > > A staged Maven repository is available for review
> > > at:
> > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/orgapachekylin-1012/
> > >
> > > Release artifacts are signed with the following
> > > key:https://people.apache.org/keys/committer/shaofengshi.asc
> > >
> > > Pursuant to the Releases section of the Incubation Policy and with
> > > the endorsement of our mentors we would now like to request
> > > the permission of the Incubator PMC to publish the release. The vote
> > > is open for 72 hours, or until the necessary number of votes (3 +1)
> > > is reached.
> > >
> > > [ ] +1 Release this package
> > > [ ]  0 I don't feel strongly about it, but I'm okay with the release
> > > [ ] -1 Do not release this package because...
> > >
> > >
> > > Shaofeng Shi, on behalf of Apache Kylin ppmcshaofeng...@apache.org
> > >
> >
>



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