Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Yegor Kozlov yegor.koz...@dinom.ru wrote: Can we do this for now? If anyone is committed to the project and able to contribute, please respond to this note with some indication of your interest. The proposers can then review this information and add names to the wiki accordingly. There is a checks and balances aspect to this as well. If the proposers are seen as rejecting earnest offers of help from the community, then that could clearly be a factor in how the proposal is voted on. Shall we cc the proposal to the Tika and PDFBox dev lists? These projects are listed in the Relationships section and there may be interest on their side too. Please forward the proposal as you see fit. Meanwhile, I'm only seeing positive responses. If we call for a vote in 72 hours (late morning EDT on Thusrday) is that enough time for discussion? Sam, I think we're ready for the vote now. Thanks, -Rob - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Sam Rubyru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Yegor Kozlovyegor.koz...@dinom.ru wrote: Can we do this for now? If anyone is committed to the project and able to contribute, please respond to this note with some indication of your interest. The proposers can then review this information and add names to the wiki accordingly. There is a checks and balances aspect to this as well. If the proposers are seen as rejecting earnest offers of help from the community, then that could clearly be a factor in how the proposal is voted on. Shall we cc the proposal to the Tika and PDFBox dev lists? These projects are listed in the Relationships section and there may be interest on their side too. Please forward the proposal as you see fit. Meanwhile, I'm only seeing positive responses. If we call for a vote in 72 hours (late morning EDT on Thusrday) is that enough time for discussion? Sam, I think we're ready for the vote now. +1 Thanks, -Rob - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
Can we do this for now? If anyone is committed to the project and able to contribute, please respond to this note with some indication of your interest. The proposers can then review this information and add names to the wiki accordingly. There is a checks and balances aspect to this as well. If the proposers are seen as rejecting earnest offers of help from the community, then that could clearly be a factor in how the proposal is voted on. Shall we cc the proposal to the Tika and PDFBox dev lists? These projects are listed in the Relationships section and there may be interest on their side too. Yegor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
+1 on the proposal But comment though on the mailing lists you asked for, I updated them, so would you please take a look. In brief the changes are: 1- You missed adding odf-private@ which is for Podling Project Management Committee specific discussion which MUST be private. 2- For issues and CI notifications we use the dev@ for that purpose no need to have their own mailing lists. One last note, I believe you need to rename your mailing lists to be deft-*. I could have done that but wanted to notify you first :). On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Yegor Kozlov yegor.koz...@dinom.ru wrote: Can we do this for now? If anyone is committed to the project and able to contribute, please respond to this note with some indication of your interest. The proposers can then review this information and add names to the wiki accordingly. There is a checks and balances aspect to this as well. If the proposers are seen as rejecting earnest offers of help from the community, then that could clearly be a factor in how the proposal is voted on. Shall we cc the proposal to the Tika and PDFBox dev lists? These projects are listed in the Relationships section and there may be interest on their side too. Yegor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide) http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less than your best. - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship Stay hungry, stay foolish. - Steve Jobs - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
+1, please CC to Tika and PDFBox lists -- there will likely be interest... Cheers, Chris On Jul 25, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Yegor Kozlov wrote: Can we do this for now? If anyone is committed to the project and able to contribute, please respond to this note with some indication of your interest. The proposers can then review this information and add names to the wiki accordingly. There is a checks and balances aspect to this as well. If the proposers are seen as rejecting earnest offers of help from the community, then that could clearly be a factor in how the proposal is voted on. Shall we cc the proposal to the Tika and PDFBox dev lists? These projects are listed in the Relationships section and there may be interest on their side too. Yegor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org ++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattm...@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Yegor Kozlov yegor.koz...@dinom.ru wrote: Can we do this for now? If anyone is committed to the project and able to contribute, please respond to this note with some indication of your interest. The proposers can then review this information and add names to the wiki accordingly. There is a checks and balances aspect to this as well. If the proposers are seen as rejecting earnest offers of help from the community, then that could clearly be a factor in how the proposal is voted on. Shall we cc the proposal to the Tika and PDFBox dev lists? These projects are listed in the Relationships section and there may be interest on their side too. Please forward the proposal as you see fit. Meanwhile, I'm only seeing positive responses. If we call for a vote in 72 hours (late morning EDT on Thusrday) is that enough time for discussion? - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal This proposal was sent to the Apache Incubator list a week ago. It was suggested that the PDFBox and Tiki projects should be contacted as well, to make members aware of this proposal. If you have comments, please follow up to general@incubator.apache.org. Regards, -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on the proposal But comment though on the mailing lists you asked for, I updated them, so would you please take a look. In brief the changes are: 1- You missed adding odf-private@ which is for Podling Project Management Committee specific discussion which MUST be private. 2- For issues and CI notifications we use the dev@ for that purpose no need to have their own mailing lists. Thanks. One last note, I believe you need to rename your mailing lists to be deft-*. I could have done that but wanted to notify you first :). For this proposal, odf is correct. But I am open to other names for the project, since The Apache ODF Toolkit is rather long. If we want Dutch towns, maybe Apache Gouda? That would result in a logo that even I, with my limited graphics skill, could design ;-) On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Yegor Kozlov yegor.koz...@dinom.ru wrote: Can we do this for now? If anyone is committed to the project and able to contribute, please respond to this note with some indication of your interest. The proposers can then review this information and add names to the wiki accordingly. There is a checks and balances aspect to this as well. If the proposers are seen as rejecting earnest offers of help from the community, then that could clearly be a factor in how the proposal is voted on. Shall we cc the proposal to the Tika and PDFBox dev lists? These projects are listed in the Relationships section and there may be interest on their side too. Yegor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide) http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less than your best. - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship Stay hungry, stay foolish. - Steve Jobs - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:26 AM, Mohammad Nour El-Din nour.moham...@gmail.com wrote: +1 on the proposal But comment though on the mailing lists you asked for, I updated them, so would you please take a look. In brief the changes are: 1- You missed adding odf-private@ which is for Podling Project Management Committee specific discussion which MUST be private. 2- For issues and CI notifications we use the dev@ for that purpose no need to have their own mailing lists. Thanks. One last note, I believe you need to rename your mailing lists to be deft-*. I could have done that but wanted to notify you first :). For this proposal, odf is correct. But I am open to other names for the project, since The Apache ODF Toolkit is rather long. If we want Dutch towns, maybe Apache Gouda? That would result in a logo that even I, with my limited graphics skill, could design ;-) :), no problem, it was only a comment. On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Yegor Kozlov yegor.koz...@dinom.ru wrote: Can we do this for now? If anyone is committed to the project and able to contribute, please respond to this note with some indication of your interest. The proposers can then review this information and add names to the wiki accordingly. There is a checks and balances aspect to this as well. If the proposers are seen as rejecting earnest offers of help from the community, then that could clearly be a factor in how the proposal is voted on. Shall we cc the proposal to the Tika and PDFBox dev lists? These projects are listed in the Relationships section and there may be interest on their side too. Yegor - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide) http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less than your best. - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship Stay hungry, stay foolish. - Steve Jobs - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Thanks - Mohammad Nour Author of (WebSphere Application Server Community Edition 2.0 User Guide) http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247585.html - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour - Blog: http://tadabborat.blogspot.com Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving - Albert Einstein Writing clean code is what you must do in order to call yourself a professional. There is no reasonable excuse for doing anything less than your best. - Clean Code: A Handbook of Agile Software Craftsmanship Stay hungry, stay foolish. - Steve Jobs - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
+1 == Background == The ODF Toolkit Union was jointly announced by Sun and IBM at the OpenOffice.org Conference in Beijing, November 2008. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jhpOvocJCrShDVkE8lObEQ?feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/WkrnKIHG-ecC7llqFXc63w?feat=directlink It was an exciting announcement! :) This proposal is similar to http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenOfficeProposal but it doesn't have the following phrase. In order to help encourage the creation of a broad and diverse project built upon merit, as required of an Apache project, we have not loaded the initial committer list with contributors from a single company. Our intention is for the initial committer list to be representative of the various users of ... It is perfectly all right to have your name on this list if you contribute in another way than to commit program code. Does this phrase also apply to http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal ? Thanks, khirano - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: 1. In the proposal, The coders on the existing ODF Toolkit will comprise the initial committers on the Apache project. These committers have varying degrees of experience with Apache-style open source development, ranging from none to being committers on other Apache projects. That strikes me as inadequately expansive/inclusive. It makes me wonder, why doesn't the project simply stay where it is? You appear to have a definite roadmap for how you want to see this project proceed. That text is in response to the core developers section of the proposal. If you look at the Apache Incubation Proposal Guide [1], you will see that our response is in line with the examples given. You probably want to review the rationale section for the why question. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/proposal.html#template-core-developers 2. Also, the current code carries template Apache ALv2 notices with copyright statements such as / * * DO NOT ALTER OR REMOVE COPYRIGHT NOTICES OR THIS FILE HEADER * * Copyright 2008, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. * Copyright 2009, 2010 IBM. All rights reserved. * [... usual ALv2 template text ...] */ Is it intended that there be an SGA or will this code simply be adapted as licensed? [I am curious because I have been restructuring some projects of mine along these lines and I'd like to see how that works.] SGA's are for donations of code or documentation. No one is donating anything here. Apache does not typically aggregate copyright and the code is already under an Apache 2.0 license. So the copyright statements in the code are factual, but irrelevant from Apache's perspective, to the extent that all the code is also properly under the Apache 2.0 license. 3. In the code base, there appear to be other committers (e.g., Devin and Michel). Is there some reason they are not among the initial committers? Are the listed Initial Committers the only current committers on the ODF Toolkit projects? All existing committers to the ODF Toolkit were contacted and asked whether they wanted their names added to the proposal. The ones who took us up on the offer are listed. Also, note that some of the Chinese project members use Western nicknames (like 'Devin'), so correlating the legal iCLA names to their ID's will require some care. 4. Can we know the contact e-mail and current iCLA status of the initial committers? Yes, we can work on that. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 08:03 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Andy Brown wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: And I've added it to the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal -Rob What can I do to help? Good question. Once the project is set up, there will be many areas where we would benefit from contributions. Naturally, this includes Java programmers, but also QA, documentation, and of course, users. I was referring to get it approved as an incubator project. I see no where to sign up as a committer as we had with OOo. I would like to help as well. Are people allowed to add their names to the proposal? Regards, Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Andy Brown wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: And I've added it to the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal -Rob What can I do to help? Good question. Once the project is set up, there will be many areas where we would benefit from contributions. Naturally, this includes Java programmers, but also QA, documentation, and of course, users. I was referring to get it approved as an incubator project. I see no where to sign up as a committer as we had with OOo. I would like to help as well. Are people allowed to add their names to the proposal? I've been told that the way we opened things up for initial committers on the OpenOffice proposal was not the norm. I was pointed to this post that explained the danger of extreme approaches in either direction, piling on versus not letting anyone new in: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200607.mbox/%3c5353a3c4-4ccc-4673-a00f-b9ce3193c...@gbiv.com%3E So it appears that the decision on initial committers rests with the proposers, which I count as myself and the other names listed initially. Personally, I would welcome anyone who is committed to the success of the project and is able to contribute in one way or another. But I'd like to see what my co-proposers think on this as well. Can we do this for now? If anyone is committed to the project and able to contribute, please respond to this note with some indication of your interest. The proposers can then review this information and add names to the wiki accordingly. There is a checks and balances aspect to this as well. If the proposers are seen as rejecting earnest offers of help from the community, then that could clearly be a factor in how the proposal is voted on. -Rob Regards, Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
+1 :) On 20.07.2011 22:29, Rob Weir wrote: Apologies to those who have received multiple copies of this message. I've cc'ed members of the Apache POI project, the Apache OpenOffice podling and the ODF Toolkit Union, due to the prior interest they've expressed in this. I invite them to join the discussion on general@incubator.apache.org. If they want to subscribe to this list they can do so by sending an email to general-subscr...@incubator.apache.org. = The ODF Toolkit = == Abstract == The ODF Toolkit is a set of Java modules that allow programmatic creation, scanning and manipulation of OpenDocument Format (ISO/IEC 26300 == ODF) documents. Unlike other approaches which rely on runtime manipulation of heavy-weight editors via an automation interface, the ODF Toolkit is lightweight and ideal for server use. The ODF Toolkit is currently hosted by the ODF Toolkit Union and is licensed under the Apache 2.0 license. == Proposal == To move the following components from the ODF Toolkit Union to a single ODF Toolkit project at Apache: Simple Java API for ODF: http://simple.odftoolkit.org/ ODFDOM: http://odftoolkit.org/projects/odfdom/pages/Home ODF Conformance Tools: http://odftoolkit.org/projects/conformancetools/pages/Home (We'd be open as well to a catchier name. We've been calling it The ODF Toolkit, prefaced always with The. Or individually by component name. But The Apache ODF Toolkit or Apache ODF Toolkit are ponderous.) In addition to migrating the code, we would migrate the website, tutorials, samples, Bugzilla data, and (if feasible) the mailing list archives. We would also seek to transfer the odftoolkit.org domain name to Apache. While under incubation we will merge these projects into a single SDK with three layers: # Package layer, representing the ZIP + Manifest container file of an ODF document. This structure is shared by other document formats, such as EPUB # DOM Layer, a schema-generated layer that maps 1:1 with the ODF schema. This uses Apache Velocity as the templating engine. # Convenience layer: an intuitive, high level API for use by app developers who are not familiar with ODF XML, but who have basic knowledge at the level of a word processor user. == Background == The ODF Toolkit Union was jointly announced by Sun and IBM at the OpenOffice.org Conference in Beijing, November 2008. The idea was to create a portfolio of tools aimed at accelerating the growth of document-centric solutions. The Open Document Format specification is large and complex. Most developers simply do not have the time and energy to master the 1,000-page specification By providing programming libraries, with high level APIs, the ODF Toolkit offers an means to reduce the difficulty level, and encourage development of innovative document solutions. == Rationale == During the recent OpenOffice incubation proposal discussions, the mention of possible moving the ODF Toolkit to Apache was met with enthusiasm. Apache is emerging as the leading open source community for document related projects. The ODF Toolkit would have a good deal of synergy with other Apache projects, including the ODF Toolkit's dependency on Apache XML tools like Xerces, to possible multi-format applications with POI libraries to pipelining ODF with SVG and PDF rendering with Batik, FOP or PDFBox. Getting these various document processing libraries in one place, under a compatible permissive license would be of great value and service to users-developers interested in combining these tools for their specific project requirements. Last, but not least, there is obvious synergy with Apache OpenOffice, as a prominent office suite supporting the ODF format. The ODF Toolkit is already licensed under Apache License, Version 2.0, enabling a smooth transition. = Current Status = == Meritocracy == We understand the intention and value of meritocracy at Apache. The initial committers are familiar with open source development. A diverse developer community is regarded as necessary for a healthy, stable, long term ODF Toolkit project. == Community == The ODF Toolkit is developed by a small set of core developers, though the community extends to include a broad set of application developers who use the code and contribute bug reports, patches and feature requests. Although there are some open source projects that use these components directly, such Apache Directory Studio and GNU Octave, to support ODF import/export, it is more typical for these kinds of libraries to be used by application developers in small, ad-hoc document automation and data wrangling applications. == Core Developers == The coders on the existing ODF Toolkit will comprise the initial committers on the Apache project. These committers have varying degrees of experience with Apache-style open source development, ranging from none to being committers on other Apache projects.. == Alignment == Along with the technical synergies described earlier, Apache
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
+1 :) On 20.07.2011 22:29, Rob Weir wrote: Apologies to those who have received multiple copies of this message. I've cc'ed members of the Apache POI project, the Apache OpenOffice podling and the ODF Toolkit Union, due to the prior interest they've expressed in this. I invite them to join the discussion on general@incubator.apache.org. If they want to subscribe to this list they can do so by sending an email to general-subscr...@incubator.apache.org. = The ODF Toolkit = == Abstract == The ODF Toolkit is a set of Java modules that allow programmatic creation, scanning and manipulation of OpenDocument Format (ISO/IEC 26300 == ODF) documents. Unlike other approaches which rely on runtime manipulation of heavy-weight editors via an automation interface, the ODF Toolkit is lightweight and ideal for server use. The ODF Toolkit is currently hosted by the ODF Toolkit Union and is licensed under the Apache 2.0 license. == Proposal == To move the following components from the ODF Toolkit Union to a single ODF Toolkit project at Apache: Simple Java API for ODF: http://simple.odftoolkit.org/ ODFDOM: http://odftoolkit.org/projects/odfdom/pages/Home ODF Conformance Tools: http://odftoolkit.org/projects/conformancetools/pages/Home (We'd be open as well to a catchier name. We've been calling it The ODF Toolkit, prefaced always with The. Or individually by component name. But The Apache ODF Toolkit or Apache ODF Toolkit are ponderous.) In addition to migrating the code, we would migrate the website, tutorials, samples, Bugzilla data, and (if feasible) the mailing list archives. We would also seek to transfer the odftoolkit.org domain name to Apache. While under incubation we will merge these projects into a single SDK with three layers: # Package layer, representing the ZIP + Manifest container file of an ODF document. This structure is shared by other document formats, such as EPUB # DOM Layer, a schema-generated layer that maps 1:1 with the ODF schema. This uses Apache Velocity as the templating engine. # Convenience layer: an intuitive, high level API for use by app developers who are not familiar with ODF XML, but who have basic knowledge at the level of a word processor user. == Background == The ODF Toolkit Union was jointly announced by Sun and IBM at the OpenOffice.org Conference in Beijing, November 2008. The idea was to create a portfolio of tools aimed at accelerating the growth of document-centric solutions. The Open Document Format specification is large and complex. Most developers simply do not have the time and energy to master the 1,000-page specification By providing programming libraries, with high level APIs, the ODF Toolkit offers an means to reduce the difficulty level, and encourage development of innovative document solutions. == Rationale == During the recent OpenOffice incubation proposal discussions, the mention of possible moving the ODF Toolkit to Apache was met with enthusiasm. Apache is emerging as the leading open source community for document related projects. The ODF Toolkit would have a good deal of synergy with other Apache projects, including the ODF Toolkit's dependency on Apache XML tools like Xerces, to possible multi-format applications with POI libraries to pipelining ODF with SVG and PDF rendering with Batik, FOP or PDFBox. Getting these various document processing libraries in one place, under a compatible permissive license would be of great value and service to users-developers interested in combining these tools for their specific project requirements. Last, but not least, there is obvious synergy with Apache OpenOffice, as a prominent office suite supporting the ODF format. The ODF Toolkit is already licensed under Apache License, Version 2.0, enabling a smooth transition. = Current Status = == Meritocracy == We understand the intention and value of meritocracy at Apache. The initial committers are familiar with open source development. A diverse developer community is regarded as necessary for a healthy, stable, long term ODF Toolkit project. == Community == The ODF Toolkit is developed by a small set of core developers, though the community extends to include a broad set of application developers who use the code and contribute bug reports, patches and feature requests. Although there are some open source projects that use these components directly, such Apache Directory Studio and GNU Octave, to support ODF import/export, it is more typical for these kinds of libraries to be used by application developers in small, ad-hoc document automation and data wrangling applications. == Core Developers == The coders on the existing ODF Toolkit will comprise the initial committers on the Apache project. These committers have varying degrees of experience with Apache-style open source development, ranging from none to being committers on other Apache projects.. == Alignment == Along with the technical synergies described earlier, Apache
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote on 07/21/2011 02:02:55 PM: From: Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com To: general@incubator.apache.org, Date: 07/22/2011 04:20 AM Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Andy Brown wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Andy Brown andy@the-martin- byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: And I've added it to the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal -Rob What can I do to help? Good question. Once the project is set up, there will be many areas where we would benefit from contributions. Naturally, this includes Java programmers, but also QA, documentation, and of course, users. I was referring to get it approved as an incubator project. I see no where to sign up as a committer as we had with OOo. I would like to help as well. Are people allowed to add their names to the proposal? I've been told that the way we opened things up for initial committers on the OpenOffice proposal was not the norm. I was pointed to this post that explained the danger of extreme approaches in either direction, piling on versus not letting anyone new in: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/ 200607.mbox/%3c5353a3c4-4ccc-4673-a00f-b9ce3193c...@gbiv.com%3E So it appears that the decision on initial committers rests with the proposers, which I count as myself and the other names listed initially. Personally, I would welcome anyone who is committed to the success of the project and is able to contribute in one way or another. But I'd like to see what my co-proposers think on this as well. As a co-proposer, I also welcome anyone who is committed to the success of this project. There are many exciting areas to improve. We will need to develop a good community to support this project beyond the core developers. So if you have a keen interest in the 'document-space', please do not hesitate to join. Can we do this for now? If anyone is committed to the project and able to contribute, please respond to this note with some indication of your interest. The proposers can then review this information and add names to the wiki accordingly. There is a checks and balances aspect to this as well. If the proposers are seen as rejecting earnest offers of help from the community, then that could clearly be a factor in how the proposal is voted on. -Rob Regards, Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
Hi Rob, On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Andy Brown wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: And I've added it to the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal -Rob What can I do to help? Good question. Once the project is set up, there will be many areas where we would benefit from contributions. Naturally, this includes Java programmers, but also QA, documentation, and of course, users. I was referring to get it approved as an incubator project. I see no where to sign up as a committer as we had with OOo. I would like to help as well. Are people allowed to add their names to the proposal? I've been told that the way we opened things up for initial committers on the OpenOffice proposal was not the norm. I was pointed to this post that explained the danger of extreme approaches in either direction, piling on versus not letting anyone new in: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200607.mbox/%3c5353a3c4-4ccc-4673-a00f-b9ce3193c...@gbiv.com%3E So it appears that the decision on initial committers rests with the proposers, which I count as myself and the other names listed initially. Personally, I would welcome anyone who is committed to the success of the project and is able to contribute in one way or another. But I'd like to see what my co-proposers think on this as well. Can we do this for now? If anyone is committed to the project and able to contribute, please respond to this note with some indication of your interest. The proposers can then review this information and add names to the wiki accordingly. There is a checks and balances aspect to this as well. If the proposers are seen as rejecting earnest offers of help from the community, then that could clearly be a factor in how the proposal is voted on. i would be interested in this project in the same way as i was as a project member of the existing project. Well i was not really active in the past as a developer because of some other internal to-dos but this can be changed. Juergen -Rob Regards, Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: And I've added it to the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal -Rob What can I do to help? Good question. Once the project is set up, there will be many areas where we would benefit from contributions. Naturally, this includes Java programmers, but also QA, documentation, and of course, users. I was referring to get it approved as an incubator project. I see no where to sign up as a committer as we had with OOo. Hi Andy, I'd like to invite you to sign up as an initial committer on the wiki here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal Regards, -Rob Done. Thanks. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
2011/7/22 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com: Hi Rob, On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:02 PM, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Andy Brown wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: And I've added it to the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal -Rob What can I do to help? Good question. Once the project is set up, there will be many areas where we would benefit from contributions. Naturally, this includes Java programmers, but also QA, documentation, and of course, users. I was referring to get it approved as an incubator project. I see no where to sign up as a committer as we had with OOo. I would like to help as well. Are people allowed to add their names to the proposal? I've been told that the way we opened things up for initial committers on the OpenOffice proposal was not the norm. I was pointed to this post that explained the danger of extreme approaches in either direction, piling on versus not letting anyone new in: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/200607.mbox/%3c5353a3c4-4ccc-4673-a00f-b9ce3193c...@gbiv.com%3E So it appears that the decision on initial committers rests with the proposers, which I count as myself and the other names listed initially. Personally, I would welcome anyone who is committed to the success of the project and is able to contribute in one way or another. But I'd like to see what my co-proposers think on this as well. Can we do this for now? If anyone is committed to the project and able to contribute, please respond to this note with some indication of your interest. The proposers can then review this information and add names to the wiki accordingly. There is a checks and balances aspect to this as well. If the proposers are seen as rejecting earnest offers of help from the community, then that could clearly be a factor in how the proposal is voted on. i would be interested in this project in the same way as i was as a project member of the existing project. Well i was not really active in the past as a developer because of some other internal to-dos but this can be changed. Hello Jürgen , I'd like to invite you to sign up as an initial committer on the wiki here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal Regards, -Rob Juergen -Rob Regards, Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Andy Brown wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: And I've added it to the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal -Rob What can I do to help? Good question. Once the project is set up, there will be many areas where we would benefit from contributions. Naturally, this includes Java programmers, but also QA, documentation, and of course, users. I was referring to get it approved as an incubator project. I see no where to sign up as a committer as we had with OOo. I would like to help as well. Are people allowed to add their names to the proposal? Hi Dave, I'd like to invite you to sign up as an initial committer on the wiki here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal Regards, -Rob Regards, Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: And I've added it to the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal -Rob What can I do to help? Good question. Once the project is set up, there will be many areas where we would benefit from contributions. Naturally, this includes Java programmers, but also QA, documentation, and of course, users. I was referring to get it approved as an incubator project. I see no where to sign up as a committer as we had with OOo. Hi Andy, I'd like to invite you to sign up as an initial committer on the wiki here: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal Regards, -Rob Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: And I've added it to the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal -Rob What can I do to help? Good question. Once the project is set up, there will be many areas where we would benefit from contributions. Naturally, this includes Java programmers, but also QA, documentation, and of course, users. Some specific things that I think would be interesting, if we had more contributors: - Work on improving the JavaDoc. What we have now is thin and would benefit from editing by someone with English fluency. - Quantify our unit test test-coverage and write additional targeted unit tests so that we achieve 100% coverage - A module that takes an ODF document as input and generates code, expressed in the ODF Toolkit, that would when executed created the original ODF document. It sound weird, but think about it. This would allow someone to jump-start a program that produced customized versions of that document. - Implement OpenFormula, the spreadsheet formula language of ODF 1.2 - We occasionally get a report of concurrency bugs. These, as you may know, are notoriously hard to debug and fix. Is there something we can be doing to shake out these errors earlier, during test? What is the state of the art here in static and dynamic analysis? - We have a cookbook [1] of sample snippets of code that illustrate common problem/solution pairs, like how to copy a slide from another presentation deck. This cookbook is very useful and popular. But there is much room for expansion. - Performance -- profiling and tuning is needed. - A more radical way to achieve greater performance would be to have a streaming-mode API that does not require building a DOM at all. This would be limited in what you can do with it -- especially limited to what can be done within a single pass over the document -- but could be highly optimized. For example, suppose you just want to extract the author's name and creation date from a large number of documents. This requires only that you scan through the meta.xml in the ODF ZIP file. Building a DOM would be highly wasteful. But if you had a SAX-like set of listener interfaces and realized that only a MetadataListener was registered, then you could optimize the processing of the document. So, there is no shortage of areas were we could use help. And there are probably even more ways of improving/extending this code than I have even thought of. [1] http://simple.odftoolkit.org/cookbook/index.html Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
Le 21/07/2011 14:28, Rob Weir a écrit : So, there is no shortage of areas were we could use help. And there are probably even more ways of improving/extending this code than I have even thought of. [ODF Toolkit Proposal] Unlike other approaches which rely on runtime manipulation of heavy-weight editors via an automation interface, the ODF Toolkit is lightweight and ideal for server use. As a worker in document generation, I had never used ODF Toolkit in server generation because I prefer, for low memory-use, a stream API (ZIPOutputStream and streaming of each XML inside) to a model API. I recognize, that I had not studied precisely code of ODF Tookit and I don't knew it was schema-generated Java source code. Given that, I would suggest another idea: adding a stream (StAX-like) API, helping when outputting ODF documents without using too much memory (another target for Java code generation from schema). Daniel Latrémolière. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: And I've added it to the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal -Rob What can I do to help? Good question. Once the project is set up, there will be many areas where we would benefit from contributions. Naturally, this includes Java programmers, but also QA, documentation, and of course, users. I was referring to get it approved as an incubator project. I see no where to sign up as a committer as we had with OOo. Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Andy Brown wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: And I've added it to the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal -Rob What can I do to help? Good question. Once the project is set up, there will be many areas where we would benefit from contributions. Naturally, this includes Java programmers, but also QA, documentation, and of course, users. I was referring to get it approved as an incubator project. I see no where to sign up as a committer as we had with OOo. I would like to help as well. Are people allowed to add their names to the proposal? Regards, Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
RE: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
1. In the proposal, The coders on the existing ODF Toolkit will comprise the initial committers on the Apache project. These committers have varying degrees of experience with Apache-style open source development, ranging from none to being committers on other Apache projects. That strikes me as inadequately expansive/inclusive. It makes me wonder, why doesn't the project simply stay where it is? You appear to have a definite roadmap for how you want to see this project proceed. 2. Also, the current code carries template Apache ALv2 notices with copyright statements such as / * * DO NOT ALTER OR REMOVE COPYRIGHT NOTICES OR THIS FILE HEADER * * Copyright 2008, 2010 Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights reserved. * Copyright 2009, 2010 IBM. All rights reserved. * [... usual ALv2 template text ...] */ Is it intended that there be an SGA or will this code simply be adapted as licensed? [I am curious because I have been restructuring some projects of mine along these lines and I'd like to see how that works.] 3. In the code base, there appear to be other committers (e.g., Devin and Michel). Is there some reason they are not among the initial committers? Are the listed Initial Committers the only current committers on the ODF Toolkit projects? 4. Can we know the contact e-mail and current iCLA status of the initial committers? - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 08:03 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation On Jul 21, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Andy Brown wrote: Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Andy Brown a...@the-martin-byrd.net wrote: Rob Weir wrote: And I've added it to the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal -Rob What can I do to help? Good question. Once the project is set up, there will be many areas where we would benefit from contributions. Naturally, this includes Java programmers, but also QA, documentation, and of course, users. I was referring to get it approved as an incubator project. I see no where to sign up as a committer as we had with OOo. I would like to help as well. Are people allowed to add their names to the proposal? Regards, Dave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
Apologies to those who have received multiple copies of this message. I've cc'ed members of the Apache POI project, the Apache OpenOffice podling and the ODF Toolkit Union, due to the prior interest they've expressed in this. I invite them to join the discussion on general@incubator.apache.org. If they want to subscribe to this list they can do so by sending an email to general-subscr...@incubator.apache.org. = The ODF Toolkit = == Abstract == The ODF Toolkit is a set of Java modules that allow programmatic creation, scanning and manipulation of OpenDocument Format (ISO/IEC 26300 == ODF) documents. Unlike other approaches which rely on runtime manipulation of heavy-weight editors via an automation interface, the ODF Toolkit is lightweight and ideal for server use. The ODF Toolkit is currently hosted by the ODF Toolkit Union and is licensed under the Apache 2.0 license. == Proposal == To move the following components from the ODF Toolkit Union to a single ODF Toolkit project at Apache: Simple Java API for ODF: http://simple.odftoolkit.org/ ODFDOM: http://odftoolkit.org/projects/odfdom/pages/Home ODF Conformance Tools: http://odftoolkit.org/projects/conformancetools/pages/Home (We'd be open as well to a catchier name. We've been calling it The ODF Toolkit, prefaced always with The. Or individually by component name. But The Apache ODF Toolkit or Apache ODF Toolkit are ponderous.) In addition to migrating the code, we would migrate the website, tutorials, samples, Bugzilla data, and (if feasible) the mailing list archives. We would also seek to transfer the odftoolkit.org domain name to Apache. While under incubation we will merge these projects into a single SDK with three layers: # Package layer, representing the ZIP + Manifest container file of an ODF document. This structure is shared by other document formats, such as EPUB # DOM Layer, a schema-generated layer that maps 1:1 with the ODF schema. This uses Apache Velocity as the templating engine. # Convenience layer: an intuitive, high level API for use by app developers who are not familiar with ODF XML, but who have basic knowledge at the level of a word processor user. == Background == The ODF Toolkit Union was jointly announced by Sun and IBM at the OpenOffice.org Conference in Beijing, November 2008. The idea was to create a portfolio of tools aimed at accelerating the growth of document-centric solutions. The Open Document Format specification is large and complex. Most developers simply do not have the time and energy to master the 1,000-page specification By providing programming libraries, with high level APIs, the ODF Toolkit offers an means to reduce the difficulty level, and encourage development of innovative document solutions. == Rationale == During the recent OpenOffice incubation proposal discussions, the mention of possible moving the ODF Toolkit to Apache was met with enthusiasm. Apache is emerging as the leading open source community for document related projects. The ODF Toolkit would have a good deal of synergy with other Apache projects, including the ODF Toolkit's dependency on Apache XML tools like Xerces, to possible multi-format applications with POI libraries to pipelining ODF with SVG and PDF rendering with Batik, FOP or PDFBox. Getting these various document processing libraries in one place, under a compatible permissive license would be of great value and service to users-developers interested in combining these tools for their specific project requirements. Last, but not least, there is obvious synergy with Apache OpenOffice, as a prominent office suite supporting the ODF format. The ODF Toolkit is already licensed under Apache License, Version 2.0, enabling a smooth transition. = Current Status = == Meritocracy == We understand the intention and value of meritocracy at Apache. The initial committers are familiar with open source development. A diverse developer community is regarded as necessary for a healthy, stable, long term ODF Toolkit project. == Community == The ODF Toolkit is developed by a small set of core developers, though the community extends to include a broad set of application developers who use the code and contribute bug reports, patches and feature requests. Although there are some open source projects that use these components directly, such Apache Directory Studio and GNU Octave, to support ODF import/export, it is more typical for these kinds of libraries to be used by application developers in small, ad-hoc document automation and data wrangling applications. == Core Developers == The coders on the existing ODF Toolkit will comprise the initial committers on the Apache project. These committers have varying degrees of experience with Apache-style open source development, ranging from none to being committers on other Apache projects.. == Alignment == Along with the technical synergies described earlier, Apache aligns well due to its license and emphasis on
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
And I've added it to the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal -Rob On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: Apologies to those who have received multiple copies of this message. I've cc'ed members of the Apache POI project, the Apache OpenOffice podling and the ODF Toolkit Union, due to the prior interest they've expressed in this. I invite them to join the discussion on general@incubator.apache.org. If they want to subscribe to this list they can do so by sending an email to general-subscr...@incubator.apache.org. = The ODF Toolkit = == Abstract == The ODF Toolkit is a set of Java modules that allow programmatic creation, scanning and manipulation of OpenDocument Format (ISO/IEC 26300 == ODF) documents. Unlike other approaches which rely on runtime manipulation of heavy-weight editors via an automation interface, the ODF Toolkit is lightweight and ideal for server use. The ODF Toolkit is currently hosted by the ODF Toolkit Union and is licensed under the Apache 2.0 license. == Proposal == To move the following components from the ODF Toolkit Union to a single ODF Toolkit project at Apache: Simple Java API for ODF: http://simple.odftoolkit.org/ ODFDOM: http://odftoolkit.org/projects/odfdom/pages/Home ODF Conformance Tools: http://odftoolkit.org/projects/conformancetools/pages/Home (We'd be open as well to a catchier name. We've been calling it The ODF Toolkit, prefaced always with The. Or individually by component name. But The Apache ODF Toolkit or Apache ODF Toolkit are ponderous.) In addition to migrating the code, we would migrate the website, tutorials, samples, Bugzilla data, and (if feasible) the mailing list archives. We would also seek to transfer the odftoolkit.org domain name to Apache. While under incubation we will merge these projects into a single SDK with three layers: # Package layer, representing the ZIP + Manifest container file of an ODF document. This structure is shared by other document formats, such as EPUB # DOM Layer, a schema-generated layer that maps 1:1 with the ODF schema. This uses Apache Velocity as the templating engine. # Convenience layer: an intuitive, high level API for use by app developers who are not familiar with ODF XML, but who have basic knowledge at the level of a word processor user. == Background == The ODF Toolkit Union was jointly announced by Sun and IBM at the OpenOffice.org Conference in Beijing, November 2008. The idea was to create a portfolio of tools aimed at accelerating the growth of document-centric solutions. The Open Document Format specification is large and complex. Most developers simply do not have the time and energy to master the 1,000-page specification By providing programming libraries, with high level APIs, the ODF Toolkit offers an means to reduce the difficulty level, and encourage development of innovative document solutions. == Rationale == During the recent OpenOffice incubation proposal discussions, the mention of possible moving the ODF Toolkit to Apache was met with enthusiasm. Apache is emerging as the leading open source community for document related projects. The ODF Toolkit would have a good deal of synergy with other Apache projects, including the ODF Toolkit's dependency on Apache XML tools like Xerces, to possible multi-format applications with POI libraries to pipelining ODF with SVG and PDF rendering with Batik, FOP or PDFBox. Getting these various document processing libraries in one place, under a compatible permissive license would be of great value and service to users-developers interested in combining these tools for their specific project requirements. Last, but not least, there is obvious synergy with Apache OpenOffice, as a prominent office suite supporting the ODF format. The ODF Toolkit is already licensed under Apache License, Version 2.0, enabling a smooth transition. = Current Status = == Meritocracy == We understand the intention and value of meritocracy at Apache. The initial committers are familiar with open source development. A diverse developer community is regarded as necessary for a healthy, stable, long term ODF Toolkit project. == Community == The ODF Toolkit is developed by a small set of core developers, though the community extends to include a broad set of application developers who use the code and contribute bug reports, patches and feature requests. Although there are some open source projects that use these components directly, such Apache Directory Studio and GNU Octave, to support ODF import/export, it is more typical for these kinds of libraries to be used by application developers in small, ad-hoc document automation and data wrangling applications. == Core Developers == The coders on the existing ODF Toolkit will comprise the initial committers on the Apache project. These committers have varying degrees
Re: [PROPOSAL] ODF Toolkit for Incubation
Rob Weir wrote: And I've added it to the wiki: http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ODFToolkitProposal -Rob What can I do to help? Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
