Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2012-01-31 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny

On 10/7/11 10:11 PM, Gianugo Rabellino wrote:

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Christian Grobmeiergrobme...@gmail.com  wrote:

Any more questions/comments about this proposal? If not, I suggest we
start the vote tomorrow.

I think we're good. The one thing I'd like to do is asking to add
another committer to the roster. Abu Obeida Bakhach
abu.obe...@microsoft.com  has been following the WP7 part of Phonegap
and would be happy to continue helping out at least on that front. As
he was a Stonehenge committer, he should already have a CLA on file
and an Apache ID. Obeida works in my team and I already checked with
him - he'd be eager to help. Can I just go ahead and edit the
proposal?

Yes, please go ahead.

Thanks - on the same line Obeida pointed out how Sergey Grebnov has
been doing the bulk of the actual work, and I took the libery (after
checking with Sergey) to add him to the roster.


Has PhoneGap proposal totally stalled ? Or did I miss the Vote thread ?

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2012-01-31 Thread Emmanuel Lecharny

On 10/7/11 10:11 PM, Gianugo Rabellino wrote:

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Christian Grobmeiergrobme...@gmail.com  wrote:

Any more questions/comments about this proposal? If not, I suggest we
start the vote tomorrow.

I think we're good. The one thing I'd like to do is asking to add
another committer to the roster. Abu Obeida Bakhach
abu.obe...@microsoft.com  has been following the WP7 part of Phonegap
and would be happy to continue helping out at least on that front. As
he was a Stonehenge committer, he should already have a CLA on file
and an Apache ID. Obeida works in my team and I already checked with
him - he'd be eager to help. Can I just go ahead and edit the
proposal?

Yes, please go ahead.

Thanks - on the same line Obeida pointed out how Sergey Grebnov has
been doing the bulk of the actual work, and I took the libery (after
checking with Sergey) to add him to the roster.


Forget about my last mail. I missed the rename to Callback...

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2012-01-31 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi,

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Emmanuel Lecharny elecha...@gmail.com wrote:
 Forget about my last mail. I missed the rename to Callback...

No worries, the project has been quick to change names. :-) Hopefully
Cordova will stand the test of time.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-07 Thread Christian Grobmeier
 Any more questions/comments about this proposal? If not, I suggest we
 start the vote tomorrow.

 I think we're good. The one thing I'd like to do is asking to add
 another committer to the roster. Abu Obeida Bakhach
 abu.obe...@microsoft.com has been following the WP7 part of Phonegap
 and would be happy to continue helping out at least on that front. As
 he was a Stonehenge committer, he should already have a CLA on file
 and an Apache ID. Obeida works in my team and I already checked with
 him - he'd be eager to help. Can I just go ahead and edit the
 proposal?

Yes, please go ahead.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-07 Thread Brian LeRoux
I update w/ an alternate names for our good doctor. =)



On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 6:19 AM, David Johnson snoopd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Don't mean to throw a monkey-wrench, but you also need to come up with a new 
 name for PhoneGap's Dave Johnson or there will be mucho confusion.

 - Dave Johnson


 On Oct 7, 2011, at 9:05 AM, Jukka Zitting wrote:

 Hi Brian,

 On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
 I think there are still some questions around the Weinre source licenses.

 As Christian already noted, the licensing questions can well be
 resolved during incubation. My initial quick review of Weinre didn't
 bring up anything too troublesome, so

 Some brainstorms going on over naming on the phonegap mailinglist too.

 Yep, I noticed that. It would be nice if we could avoid too many name
 changes along the way, so if you think it's likely for another good
 name coming up and reaching consensus in near future then it probably
 would make sense to wait until that. On the other hand I think Apache
 Callback is already a pretty good name, and there is precedent of
 incubating projects still changing their names before graduation when
 trademark or other concerns have come up.

 What would be normal here? Wait until the start of next week perhaps?

 There's no immediate rush to do this, but unless you see movement on
 the naming front I don't see much need for waiting.

 Do you want to start the VOTE thread, or should I take care of it?
 Voting at Apache is semi-formalized, so there are a few technicalities
 to take into account. Most notably the message subject should start
 with [VOTE] and the message should contain all relevant details
 (i.e. copy of the proposal) of the matter at hand. The vote should
 last at least 72 hours and be open to anyone. However, only votes from
 the Incubator PMC members are considered binding. See [1] for
 background on voting at Apache, and [2] for a recent good example of
 an Incubator acceptance vote.

 [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html
 [2] http://markmail.org/message/5jvlcwuzdwpbyfvn

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-06 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi all,

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
 I would like to propose PhoneGap to be an Apache Incubator project.
 (Under the new, still proposed name, Apache Callback.)

 Here's a link to the proposal in the current PhoneGap wiki:
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal

Any more questions/comments about this proposal? If not, I suggest we
start the vote tomorrow.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-06 Thread Brian LeRoux
Hey Jukka I think there are still some questions around the Weinre
source licenses. Some brainstorms going on over naming on the phonegap
mailinglist too. What would be normal here? Wait until the start of
next week perhaps?

-brian


On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
 I would like to propose PhoneGap to be an Apache Incubator project.
 (Under the new, still proposed name, Apache Callback.)

 Here's a link to the proposal in the current PhoneGap wiki:
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal

 Any more questions/comments about this proposal? If not, I suggest we
 start the vote tomorrow.

 BR,

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-06 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Brian,

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
 Hey Jukka I think there are still some questions around the Weinre
 source licenses. Some brainstorms going on over naming on the phonegap
 mailinglist too. What would be normal here? Wait until the start of
 next week perhaps?

are these topics showstoppers (espc. the licensing question)?

If not the vote can happen. Incubator podlings sometimes have to deal
out with licensing problems and they sometimes vote to change their
name. Therefore if the Phonegap'ers do not plan to step back, and not
additional questions raise from the ASF side we can start voting.

Once done, mailinglists can be established and discussion can move to there.

Cheers
Christian



 -brian


 On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi all,

 On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
 I would like to propose PhoneGap to be an Apache Incubator project.
 (Under the new, still proposed name, Apache Callback.)

 Here's a link to the proposal in the current PhoneGap wiki:
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal

 Any more questions/comments about this proposal? If not, I suggest we
 start the vote tomorrow.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-06 Thread Brian LeRoux
 are these topics showstoppers (espc. the licensing question)?

no not at all

 If not the vote can happen.

cool

 Incubator podlings sometimes have to deal
 out with licensing problems and they sometimes vote to change their
 name. Therefore if the Phonegap'ers do not plan to step back, and not
 additional questions raise from the ASF side we can start voting.

ok cool, thank you for the guidance

 Once done, mailinglists can be established and discussion can move to there.

sweet. well, then I can't say I have any objections.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-06 Thread Dave Johnson
Yah that sounds good to me.

On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
 are these topics showstoppers (espc. the licensing question)?

 no not at all

 If not the vote can happen.

 cool

 Incubator podlings sometimes have to deal
 out with licensing problems and they sometimes vote to change their
 name. Therefore if the Phonegap'ers do not plan to step back, and not
 additional questions raise from the ASF side we can start voting.

 ok cool, thank you for the guidance

 Once done, mailinglists can be established and discussion can move to there.

 sweet. well, then I can't say I have any objections.

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-06 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 11:52 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
 I would like to propose PhoneGap to be an Apache Incubator project.
 (Under the new, still proposed name, Apache Callback.)

 Here's a link to the proposal in the current PhoneGap wiki:
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal

 Any more questions/comments about this proposal? If not, I suggest we
 start the vote tomorrow.

I think we're good. The one thing I'd like to do is asking to add
another committer to the roster. Abu Obeida Bakhach
abu.obe...@microsoft.com has been following the WP7 part of Phonegap
and would be happy to continue helping out at least on that front. As
he was a Stonehenge committer, he should already have a CLA on file
and an Apache ID. Obeida works in my team and I already checked with
him - he'd be eager to help. Can I just go ahead and edit the
proposal?

Thanks,

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-03 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi,

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
 I would like to propose PhoneGap to be an Apache Incubator project.
 (Under the new, still proposed name, Apache Callback.)

 Here's a link to the proposal in the current PhoneGap wiki:
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal

Related to this proposal, Adobe has just announced [1] an agreement to
acquire Nitobi, who together with IBM is a key force behind PhoneGap.
This acquisition should have little impact on the proposal.

PS. I unfortunately didn't have a chance to review the press release,
which ended up having a reference to the ASF and the code donation.
The reference, quoted below, is factually correct and doesn't refer to
the project being accepted by Apache, but it is uncomfortably close to
the no publicity seeking rule of the Incubator branding guide [2].
Apologies for not catching this in advance and seeking review by
press@.

“We are also excited to announce our donation of the PhoneGap code to the
Apache Software Foundation,” said Dave Johnson, chief technology officer,
Nitobi.  “Adobe has been fully supportive of our decision, further
demonstrating
Adobe’s continued commitment to the developer and open source communities.
The Apache Software Foundation's model makes it possible for contributors
to collaborate on open source product development and Adobe and Nitobi look
forward to engaging with other community members to advance the PhoneGap
technology.”

[1] 
http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/201110/AdobeAcquiresNitobi.html
[2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-01 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I would like to propose PhoneGap to be an Apache Incubator project.
 (Under the new, still proposed name, Apache Callback.)

Awesome, as a Phonegap enthusiast I'm really looking forward to it -
and I'm happy to sign up as a mentor (gianugo at apache.org).

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-01 Thread Francis De Brabandere
Interesting project!

Just a small remark: first two github links are incorrect
https://github.com/phonegap/android should be
https://github.com/phonegap/phonegap-android same for iphone

Cheers,
Francis

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I would like to propose PhoneGap to be an Apache Incubator project.
 (Under the new, still proposed name, Apache Callback.)

 Here's a link to the proposal in the current PhoneGap wiki:
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal

 Thank you!
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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-01 Thread Raffaele P. Guidi
A wonderful piece of software. Having you under the apache umbrella would be
just great.

Cheers,
   R
On Saturday, October 1, 2011, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I would like to propose PhoneGap to be an Apache Incubator project.
 (Under the new, still proposed name, Apache Callback.)

 Here's a link to the proposal in the current PhoneGap wiki:
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal

 Thank you!
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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-01 Thread Mark Struberg
Hi!

I don't know PhoneGapp well, but from what I've read it looks like a smart 
project. Thus basically a +1 from me.


I'm not sure about the proposed name 'Apache Callback' because the term 
'Callback' might not be sufficiently protectable.
'Callback' is an established term in the software area thus it might not work 
well as Trademark. 'CallBoy' or 'Callateral', etc, would be easier to handle ;)


Please note that any name change can be voted on while incubation is in 
progress.


LieGrue,
strub




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 To: general@incubator.apache.org general@incubator.apache.org
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 Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator
 
 A wonderful piece of software. Having you under the apache umbrella would be
 just great.
 
 Cheers,
    R
 On Saturday, October 1, 2011, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
  Hi everyone,
 
  I would like to propose PhoneGap to be an Apache Incubator project.
  (Under the new, still proposed name, Apache Callback.)
 
  Here's a link to the proposal in the current PhoneGap wiki:
  http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal
 
  Thank you!
  Brian
 
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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-01 Thread Maurizio Cucchiara
I have been following PG for quite some time now, I like so much the
idea behind it, I will be more than glad to contribute.

Maurizio Cucchiara



On 1 October 2011 09:29, Raffaele P. Guidi raffaele.p.gu...@gmail.com wrote:
 A wonderful piece of software. Having you under the apache umbrella would be
 just great.

 Cheers,
   R
 On Saturday, October 1, 2011, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I would like to propose PhoneGap to be an Apache Incubator project.
 (Under the new, still proposed name, Apache Callback.)

 Here's a link to the proposal in the current PhoneGap wiki:
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal

 Thank you!
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Re:[PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-01 Thread Ross Gardler
Awesome,

I'm another user. Happy to sign on as a mentor.

Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Oct 1, 2011 12:58 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I would like to propose PhoneGap to be an Apache Incubator project.
 (Under the new, still proposed name, Apache Callback.)

 Here's a link to the proposal in the current PhoneGap wiki:
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-01 Thread Scott Wilson
Great proposal! Focus on open web and open standards is spot on.

S

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 I would like to propose PhoneGap to be an Apache Incubator project.
 (Under the new, still proposed name, Apache Callback.)
 
 Here's a link to the proposal in the current PhoneGap wiki:
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal
 
 Thank you!
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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-01 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi,

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Gianugo Rabellino gian...@rabellino.it wrote:
 Awesome, as a Phonegap enthusiast I'm really looking forward to it -
 and I'm happy to sign up as a mentor (gianugo at apache.org).

Great, your input would be quite valuable! I added you to the proposal.

BR,

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-01 Thread dsh
Out of curiosity, are there any reasons to not develop the proposal on
the incubator wiki [1]?

[1] http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/

Cheers
Daniel

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Francis De Brabandere
 franci...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just a small remark: first two github links are incorrect
 https://github.com/phonegap/android should be
 https://github.com/phonegap/phonegap-android same for iphone

 Good catch! Fixed.

 BR,

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-01 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi,

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Ross Gardler
rgard...@opendirective.com wrote:
 I'm another user. Happy to sign on as a mentor.

Thanks! With you, Cristian and Gianugo signed up, we should have a
great mentoring team in place.

To give people some background on the proposal, David Nuescheler and I
have been helping Brian  co for the past few weeks with the work
leading to the proposal. I'm really excited about having a project
like this enter the ASF, and with the already vibrant community at
PhoneGap I'm pretty sure that Apache Callback will be able to graduate
to a TLP in just a few months.

BR,

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-01 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi,

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:58 AM, dsh daniel.hais...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Out of curiosity, are there any reasons to not develop the proposal on
 the incubator wiki [1]?

I suggested that either the Incubator or the PhoneGap wiki be used for
the proposal (the early draft existed as a private Google Docs
document). The community was already familiar with their wiki, so that
worked better for them.

The final version of the proposal will in any case be archived as a
part of the VOTE thread, and I'm thinking of putting a copy then also
to the Incubator wiki.

BR,

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
 ...The final version of the proposal will in any case be archived as a
 part of the VOTE thread, and I'm thinking of putting a copy then also
 to the Incubator wiki

Please do, it's good to have all proposals there for historical purposes.

-Bertrand (big +1 on incubating this BTW)

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-01 Thread Konstantin Boudnik
Wow, great stuff to have in OSS! I would love to contribute to the project. 

Cos

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-10-01 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi,

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Andrew Savory asav...@apache.org wrote:
 I couldn't be more excited to see this coming to Apache. Please consider me
 as a mentor as well.

Cool, welcome to the team!

With two champions and five experienced mentors in place I think the
project is already pretty well staffed from the Apache side.

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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[PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-09-30 Thread Brian LeRoux
Hi everyone,

I would like to propose PhoneGap to be an Apache Incubator project.
(Under the new, still proposed name, Apache Callback.)

Here's a link to the proposal in the current PhoneGap wiki:
http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal

Thank you!
Brian

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Re: [PROPOSAL] PhoneGap for Apache Incubator

2011-09-30 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Hi,

amazing. As a PhoneGap user you made my day this early morning.
Because I already read some phongap mailinglists, you can sign me up
as a mentor, if you like. (grobmeier AT apache ).

Btw, I guess you have missed that you need a wiki (required resources)

Cheers,
Christian

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Brian LeRoux b...@brian.io wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I would like to propose PhoneGap to be an Apache Incubator project.
 (Under the new, still proposed name, Apache Callback.)

 Here's a link to the proposal in the current PhoneGap wiki:
 http://wiki.phonegap.com/w/page/46311152/apache-callback-proposal

 Thank you!
 Brian

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