Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-13 Thread Ayush Saxena
+1(Binding)

-Ayush

> On 13-Mar-2024, at 8:48 PM, sebb  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 at 21:27, Craig Russell  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sebb,
>> 
>> How many person-hours are wasted by podlings and their Mentors who read the 
>> guidance and have to think about podling.yml and 
>> podling.incubator.apache.org? And how and whether to change it after 
>> graduation?
>> 
>> I'm trying to make it easier to follow the rules and not think about random 
>> requirements that serve no purpose.
> 
> AIUI the purpose of the requirement is to reinforce the fact that
> podlings are not fully adopted by the ASF.
> 
> This is not a 'random' requirement; it seems sensible to me,
> especially when podlings often fail to add the Incubator disclaimer to
> all their pages.
> 
> ==
> 
> The solution to the Whimsy warnings is simple. No need to change any
> processes, just use the correct website URL in the YAML file.
> 
> I'm unclear as to what else is regarded as a problem, and what else
> you think needs changing when a podling graduates?
> 
> Also, is this a decision that is in scope for the Incubator, or is M
> or branding approval needed?
> 
> Further, Infra may need to make some changes if the policy is changed.
> 
>> Craig
>> 
 On Mar 12, 2024, at 13:57, sebb  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Whimsy gets the URL from content/podlings/.yml
>>> 
>>> It looks like all that is needed to fix Whimsy is to ensure the
>>> correct value is used for :website:
>>> This is a one-off change; AFAIK it does not need to be changed after 
>>> graduation.
>>> 
>>> AFAICT, all the podling websites are equally accessible via
>>> podling.a.o and podling.incubator.a.o
>>> 
>>> I suggest fixing the podling yml files.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 at 20:32, Gordon  wrote:
 
 +1 (binding), thanks.
 
 On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 11:37 AM Craig Russell  
 wrote:
 
> After this discussion
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/frwsy1g1pkx3ppbvzt538xxh9qo9y319
> I'd like to propose that we make the incubator. part of the URL optional
> for podlings.
> 
> This is a way to minimize the work needed to graduate. No redirect or
> reimplementation of the web site is required.
> 
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html will need to change
> only the URL requirement. Other branding requirements are still 
> applicable.
> 
> While most podlings do have incubator. in their URL, several do not and it
> is a flag for the web site checker.
> 
> +1 make incubator. optional in URL
> +0 do not care strongly
> -1 keep the requirement for incubator. in URL
> 
> Please vote with your ASF id followed by (binding) if you are a member of
> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not.
> 
> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
> 
> Here is my +1
> 
> Craig L Russell
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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-13 Thread sebb
On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 at 21:27, Craig Russell  wrote:
>
> Hi Sebb,
>
> How many person-hours are wasted by podlings and their Mentors who read the 
> guidance and have to think about podling.yml and 
> podling.incubator.apache.org? And how and whether to change it after 
> graduation?
>
> I'm trying to make it easier to follow the rules and not think about random 
> requirements that serve no purpose.

AIUI the purpose of the requirement is to reinforce the fact that
podlings are not fully adopted by the ASF.

This is not a 'random' requirement; it seems sensible to me,
especially when podlings often fail to add the Incubator disclaimer to
all their pages.

==

The solution to the Whimsy warnings is simple. No need to change any
processes, just use the correct website URL in the YAML file.

I'm unclear as to what else is regarded as a problem, and what else
you think needs changing when a podling graduates?

Also, is this a decision that is in scope for the Incubator, or is M
or branding approval needed?

Further, Infra may need to make some changes if the policy is changed.

> Craig
>
> > On Mar 12, 2024, at 13:57, sebb  wrote:
> >
> > Whimsy gets the URL from content/podlings/.yml
> >
> > It looks like all that is needed to fix Whimsy is to ensure the
> > correct value is used for :website:
> > This is a one-off change; AFAIK it does not need to be changed after 
> > graduation.
> >
> > AFAICT, all the podling websites are equally accessible via
> > podling.a.o and podling.incubator.a.o
> >
> > I suggest fixing the podling yml files.
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 at 20:32, Gordon  wrote:
> >>
> >> +1 (binding), thanks.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 11:37 AM Craig Russell  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> After this discussion
> >>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/frwsy1g1pkx3ppbvzt538xxh9qo9y319
> >>> I'd like to propose that we make the incubator. part of the URL optional
> >>> for podlings.
> >>>
> >>> This is a way to minimize the work needed to graduate. No redirect or
> >>> reimplementation of the web site is required.
> >>>
> >>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html will need to change
> >>> only the URL requirement. Other branding requirements are still 
> >>> applicable.
> >>>
> >>> While most podlings do have incubator. in their URL, several do not and it
> >>> is a flag for the web site checker.
> >>>
> >>> +1 make incubator. optional in URL
> >>> +0 do not care strongly
> >>> -1 keep the requirement for incubator. in URL
> >>>
> >>> Please vote with your ASF id followed by (binding) if you are a member of
> >>> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not.
> >>>
> >>> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
> >>>
> >>> Here is my +1
> >>>
> >>> Craig L Russell
> >>> c...@apache.org
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-13 Thread Andrea Cosentino
+1 (binding)

Thanks for opening the vote.

Il giorno mer 13 mar 2024 alle ore 10:48 Willem Jiang 
ha scritto:

> +1 (binding)
>
> Willem
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 2:37 AM Craig Russell 
> wrote:
> >
> > After this discussion
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/frwsy1g1pkx3ppbvzt538xxh9qo9y319
> > I'd like to propose that we make the incubator. part of the URL optional
> for podlings.
> >
> > This is a way to minimize the work needed to graduate. No redirect or
> reimplementation of the web site is required.
> >
> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html will need to change
> only the URL requirement. Other branding requirements are still applicable.
> >
> > While most podlings do have incubator. in their URL, several do not and
> it is a flag for the web site checker.
> >
> > +1 make incubator. optional in URL
> > +0 do not care strongly
> > -1 keep the requirement for incubator. in URL
> >
> > Please vote with your ASF id followed by (binding) if you are a member
> of the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not.
> >
> > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
> >
> > Here is my +1
> >
> > Craig L Russell
> > c...@apache.org
> >
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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-13 Thread Cheng Pan
+1 (non-binding), thanks for simplifying the project graduation process.

Thanks,
Cheng Pan


> On Mar 13, 2024, at 17:46, Willem Jiang  wrote:
> 
> +1 (binding)
> 
> Willem
> 
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 2:37 AM Craig Russell  wrote:
>> 
>> After this discussion
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/frwsy1g1pkx3ppbvzt538xxh9qo9y319
>> I'd like to propose that we make the incubator. part of the URL optional for 
>> podlings.
>> 
>> This is a way to minimize the work needed to graduate. No redirect or 
>> reimplementation of the web site is required.
>> 
>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html will need to change only 
>> the URL requirement. Other branding requirements are still applicable.
>> 
>> While most podlings do have incubator. in their URL, several do not and it 
>> is a flag for the web site checker.
>> 
>> +1 make incubator. optional in URL
>> +0 do not care strongly
>> -1 keep the requirement for incubator. in URL
>> 
>> Please vote with your ASF id followed by (binding) if you are a member of 
>> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not.
>> 
>> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
>> 
>> Here is my +1
>> 
>> Craig L Russell
>> c...@apache.org
>> 
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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-13 Thread Willem Jiang
+1 (binding)

Willem

On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 2:37 AM Craig Russell  wrote:
>
> After this discussion
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/frwsy1g1pkx3ppbvzt538xxh9qo9y319
> I'd like to propose that we make the incubator. part of the URL optional for 
> podlings.
>
> This is a way to minimize the work needed to graduate. No redirect or 
> reimplementation of the web site is required.
>
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html will need to change only 
> the URL requirement. Other branding requirements are still applicable.
>
> While most podlings do have incubator. in their URL, several do not and it is 
> a flag for the web site checker.
>
> +1 make incubator. optional in URL
> +0 do not care strongly
> -1 keep the requirement for incubator. in URL
>
> Please vote with your ASF id followed by (binding) if you are a member of the 
> Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not.
>
> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
>
> Here is my +1
>
> Craig L Russell
> c...@apache.org
>
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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread Calvin Kirs
+1 binding

On Wed, Mar 13, 2024 at 12:20 PM tison  wrote:
>
> +1 binding
> Best,
> tison.
>
>
> Zhang Yonglun  于2024年3月13日周三 12:12写道:
>
> > +1 binding
> >
> > --
> >
> > Zhang Yonglun
> > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere
> >
> > Craig Russell  于2024年3月13日周三 02:38写道:
> > >
> > > After this discussion
> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/frwsy1g1pkx3ppbvzt538xxh9qo9y319
> > > I'd like to propose that we make the incubator. part of the URL optional
> > for podlings.
> > >
> > > This is a way to minimize the work needed to graduate. No redirect or
> > reimplementation of the web site is required.
> > >
> > > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html will need to change
> > only the URL requirement. Other branding requirements are still applicable.
> > >
> > > While most podlings do have incubator. in their URL, several do not and
> > it is a flag for the web site checker.
> > >
> > > +1 make incubator. optional in URL
> > > +0 do not care strongly
> > > -1 keep the requirement for incubator. in URL
> > >
> > > Please vote with your ASF id followed by (binding) if you are a member
> > of the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not.
> > >
> > > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
> > >
> > > Here is my +1
> > >
> > > Craig L Russell
> > > c...@apache.org
> > >
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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread tison
+1 binding
Best,
tison.


Zhang Yonglun  于2024年3月13日周三 12:12写道:

> +1 binding
>
> --
>
> Zhang Yonglun
> Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere
>
> Craig Russell  于2024年3月13日周三 02:38写道:
> >
> > After this discussion
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/frwsy1g1pkx3ppbvzt538xxh9qo9y319
> > I'd like to propose that we make the incubator. part of the URL optional
> for podlings.
> >
> > This is a way to minimize the work needed to graduate. No redirect or
> reimplementation of the web site is required.
> >
> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html will need to change
> only the URL requirement. Other branding requirements are still applicable.
> >
> > While most podlings do have incubator. in their URL, several do not and
> it is a flag for the web site checker.
> >
> > +1 make incubator. optional in URL
> > +0 do not care strongly
> > -1 keep the requirement for incubator. in URL
> >
> > Please vote with your ASF id followed by (binding) if you are a member
> of the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not.
> >
> > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
> >
> > Here is my +1
> >
> > Craig L Russell
> > c...@apache.org
> >
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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread Zhang Yonglun
+1 binding

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Craig Russell  于2024年3月13日周三 02:38写道:
>
> After this discussion
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/frwsy1g1pkx3ppbvzt538xxh9qo9y319
> I'd like to propose that we make the incubator. part of the URL optional for 
> podlings.
>
> This is a way to minimize the work needed to graduate. No redirect or 
> reimplementation of the web site is required.
>
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html will need to change only 
> the URL requirement. Other branding requirements are still applicable.
>
> While most podlings do have incubator. in their URL, several do not and it is 
> a flag for the web site checker.
>
> +1 make incubator. optional in URL
> +0 do not care strongly
> -1 keep the requirement for incubator. in URL
>
> Please vote with your ASF id followed by (binding) if you are a member of the 
> Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not.
>
> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
>
> Here is my +1
>
> Craig L Russell
> c...@apache.org
>
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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread hulk
+1 binding

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 at 12:00, Leonard(Lifeng Nie) 
wrote:

> +1 (non-binding)
>
> Charles Zhang  于2024年3月13日周三 11:58写道:
>
> > +1 binding
> >
> > Best wishes,
> > Charles Zhang
> > from Apache InLong
> >
> >
> > Xin Wang  于2024年3月13日周三 11:51写道:
> >
> > > +1 binding
> > >
> > > Alex Porcelli  于2024年3月13日周三 06:15写道:
> > >
> > > > +1 (non-binding)
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 6:14 PM Justin Mclean <
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> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > +1 binding
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> > >
> >
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread Leonard(Lifeng Nie)
+1 (non-binding)

Charles Zhang  于2024年3月13日周三 11:58写道:

> +1 binding
>
> Best wishes,
> Charles Zhang
> from Apache InLong
>
>
> Xin Wang  于2024年3月13日周三 11:51写道:
>
> > +1 binding
> >
> > Alex Porcelli  于2024年3月13日周三 06:15写道:
> >
> > > +1 (non-binding)
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 6:14 PM Justin Mclean <
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> > > wrote:
> > > >
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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread Charles Zhang
+1 binding

Best wishes,
Charles Zhang
from Apache InLong


Xin Wang  于2024年3月13日周三 11:51写道:

> +1 binding
>
> Alex Porcelli  于2024年3月13日周三 06:15写道:
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> > +1 (non-binding)
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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread Kent Yao
binding +1.

Kent Yao

Xin Wang  于2024年3月13日周三 11:52写道:
>
> +1 binding
>
> Alex Porcelli  于2024年3月13日周三 06:15写道:
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> > +1 (non-binding)
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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread Xin Wang
+1 binding

Alex Porcelli  于2024年3月13日周三 06:15写道:

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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread Justin Mclean
+1 binding

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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread Alex Porcelli
+1 (non-binding)

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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread Dave Fisher
+1, binding.  (I would be stronger and recommend that it not be done at all.) A 
string DISCLAIMER on the main page should be enough.)

> On Mar 12, 2024, at 2:29 PM, Daniel Gruno  wrote:
> 
> +1, binding.
> 
> On 3/12/24 19:36, Craig Russell wrote:
>> After this discussion
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/frwsy1g1pkx3ppbvzt538xxh9qo9y319
>> I'd like to propose that we make the incubator. part of the URL optional for 
>> podlings.
>> This is a way to minimize the work needed to graduate. No redirect or 
>> reimplementation of the web site is required.
>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html will need to change only 
>> the URL requirement. Other branding requirements are still applicable.
>> While most podlings do have incubator. in their URL, several do not and it 
>> is a flag for the web site checker.
>> +1 make incubator. optional in URL
>> +0 do not care strongly
>> -1 keep the requirement for incubator. in URL
>> Please vote with your ASF id followed by (binding) if you are a member of 
>> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not.
>> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
>> Here is my +1
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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread Daniel Gruno

+1, binding.

On 3/12/24 19:36, Craig Russell wrote:

After this discussion
https://lists.apache.org/thread/frwsy1g1pkx3ppbvzt538xxh9qo9y319
I'd like to propose that we make the incubator. part of the URL optional for 
podlings.

This is a way to minimize the work needed to graduate. No redirect or 
reimplementation of the web site is required.

https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html will need to change only the 
URL requirement. Other branding requirements are still applicable.

While most podlings do have incubator. in their URL, several do not and it is a 
flag for the web site checker.

+1 make incubator. optional in URL
+0 do not care strongly
-1 keep the requirement for incubator. in URL

Please vote with your ASF id followed by (binding) if you are a member of the 
Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not.

Vote will be open for at least 72 hours.

Here is my +1

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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread Craig Russell
Hi Sebb,

How many person-hours are wasted by podlings and their Mentors who read the 
guidance and have to think about podling.yml and podling.incubator.apache.org? 
And how and whether to change it after graduation?

I'm trying to make it easier to follow the rules and not think about random 
requirements that serve no purpose.

Craig

> On Mar 12, 2024, at 13:57, sebb  wrote:
> 
> Whimsy gets the URL from content/podlings/.yml
> 
> It looks like all that is needed to fix Whimsy is to ensure the
> correct value is used for :website:
> This is a one-off change; AFAIK it does not need to be changed after 
> graduation.
> 
> AFAICT, all the podling websites are equally accessible via
> podling.a.o and podling.incubator.a.o
> 
> I suggest fixing the podling yml files.
> 
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 at 20:32, Gordon  wrote:
>> 
>> +1 (binding), thanks.
>> 
>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 11:37 AM Craig Russell  wrote:
>> 
>>> After this discussion
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread/frwsy1g1pkx3ppbvzt538xxh9qo9y319
>>> I'd like to propose that we make the incubator. part of the URL optional
>>> for podlings.
>>> 
>>> This is a way to minimize the work needed to graduate. No redirect or
>>> reimplementation of the web site is required.
>>> 
>>> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html will need to change
>>> only the URL requirement. Other branding requirements are still applicable.
>>> 
>>> While most podlings do have incubator. in their URL, several do not and it
>>> is a flag for the web site checker.
>>> 
>>> +1 make incubator. optional in URL
>>> +0 do not care strongly
>>> -1 keep the requirement for incubator. in URL
>>> 
>>> Please vote with your ASF id followed by (binding) if you are a member of
>>> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not.
>>> 
>>> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
>>> 
>>> Here is my +1
>>> 
>>> Craig L Russell
>>> c...@apache.org
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread sebb
Whimsy gets the URL from content/podlings/.yml

It looks like all that is needed to fix Whimsy is to ensure the
correct value is used for :website:
This is a one-off change; AFAIK it does not need to be changed after graduation.

AFAICT, all the podling websites are equally accessible via
podling.a.o and podling.incubator.a.o

I suggest fixing the podling yml files.

On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 at 20:32, Gordon  wrote:
>
> +1 (binding), thanks.
>
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 11:37 AM Craig Russell  wrote:
>
> > After this discussion
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/frwsy1g1pkx3ppbvzt538xxh9qo9y319
> > I'd like to propose that we make the incubator. part of the URL optional
> > for podlings.
> >
> > This is a way to minimize the work needed to graduate. No redirect or
> > reimplementation of the web site is required.
> >
> > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html will need to change
> > only the URL requirement. Other branding requirements are still applicable.
> >
> > While most podlings do have incubator. in their URL, several do not and it
> > is a flag for the web site checker.
> >
> > +1 make incubator. optional in URL
> > +0 do not care strongly
> > -1 keep the requirement for incubator. in URL
> >
> > Please vote with your ASF id followed by (binding) if you are a member of
> > the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not.
> >
> > Vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
> >
> > Here is my +1
> >
> > Craig L Russell
> > c...@apache.org
> >
> >
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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread Gordon
+1 (binding), thanks.

On Tue, Mar 12, 2024 at 11:37 AM Craig Russell  wrote:

> After this discussion
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/frwsy1g1pkx3ppbvzt538xxh9qo9y319
> I'd like to propose that we make the incubator. part of the URL optional
> for podlings.
>
> This is a way to minimize the work needed to graduate. No redirect or
> reimplementation of the web site is required.
>
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html will need to change
> only the URL requirement. Other branding requirements are still applicable.
>
> While most podlings do have incubator. in their URL, several do not and it
> is a flag for the web site checker.
>
> +1 make incubator. optional in URL
> +0 do not care strongly
> -1 keep the requirement for incubator. in URL
>
> Please vote with your ASF id followed by (binding) if you are a member of
> the Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not.
>
> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
>
> Here is my +1
>
> Craig L Russell
> c...@apache.org
>
>
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Re: [VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread PJ Fanning
+1 (binding)

On 2024/03/12 18:36:47 Craig Russell wrote:
> After this discussion
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/frwsy1g1pkx3ppbvzt538xxh9qo9y319
> I'd like to propose that we make the incubator. part of the URL optional for 
> podlings.
> 
> This is a way to minimize the work needed to graduate. No redirect or 
> reimplementation of the web site is required. 
> 
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html will need to change only 
> the URL requirement. Other branding requirements are still applicable.
> 
> While most podlings do have incubator. in their URL, several do not and it is 
> a flag for the web site checker.
> 
> +1 make incubator. optional in URL
> +0 do not care strongly
> -1 keep the requirement for incubator. in URL
> 
> Please vote with your ASF id followed by (binding) if you are a member of the 
> Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not.
> 
> Vote will be open for at least 72 hours.
> 
> Here is my +1
> 
> Craig L Russell
> c...@apache.org
> 
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[VOTE] Podling web sites: make (incubator.) optional in podling urls

2024-03-12 Thread Craig Russell
After this discussion
https://lists.apache.org/thread/frwsy1g1pkx3ppbvzt538xxh9qo9y319
I'd like to propose that we make the incubator. part of the URL optional for 
podlings.

This is a way to minimize the work needed to graduate. No redirect or 
reimplementation of the web site is required. 

https://incubator.apache.org/guides/branding.html will need to change only the 
URL requirement. Other branding requirements are still applicable.

While most podlings do have incubator. in their URL, several do not and it is a 
flag for the web site checker.

+1 make incubator. optional in URL
+0 do not care strongly
-1 keep the requirement for incubator. in URL

Please vote with your ASF id followed by (binding) if you are a member of the 
Incubator PMC or (not binding) if not.

Vote will be open for at least 72 hours.

Here is my +1

Craig L Russell
c...@apache.org


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