Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 18:53, Allen Pulsifer wrote: >> As a Incubator PMC member, I'd like to hear what the TDF folks think about > this suggested path. >> In the end the people who do the day-to-day work will end up collaborating > or not...But, here's >> my +1 that implies that i'd like folks who are signing on to this podling > do their best to make this happen. > > Of course, there are many things on which it would be good to get input or > feedback of the TDF community. But "we" (and I'm using the abstract "we" > here), should not be so self-important that we insist they come here to give > us their input. Someone (someone like a sponsor of the proposal), needs to > head over to their place and engage them there. That it simply common > courtesy, that when you want to get someone's involvement, you have the > courtesy to pay them a visit at their place. I think it would be tough to engage people on the TDF and LO lists for *input* to the proposal. Everything around the proposal (content, audience, voters) are located here. It really makes sense to engage here. (would you talk about Tomcat on the Subversion lists?) But engaging the LO community on a basic matter of "hey. I'm here to answer any questions, and to listen to concerns." Acting as a raw conduit can be difficult (witness Jim's early emails being forwarded across the lists). Now... with that said. Consider a typical person from the ASF who might want to do that. Say.. like myself. I don't know what list to subscribe to. (name only one!) ... If somebody can say what list that ASF people could subscribe to, then something like this could happen. Did we already get such an invitation? (like our invitation to general@incubator) ... Did I miss it? Cheers, -g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
RE: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)
> Now... with that said. Consider a typical person from the ASF who might want to do that. > Say.. like myself. I don't know what list to subscribe to. (name only one!) ... If somebody > can say what list that ASF people could subscribe to, then something like this could happen. Personally, I would start with the "dev" list at. That's the only one I'm subscribed to. http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice You might get shoo'ed away and set to something like the "discuss" list. Don't know for sure. http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/#lists - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > (like our invitation to general@incubator) ... Did I miss it? > > Actually I have not seen any invitations from anyone associated with this proposal on the LibreOffice and Document Foundation lists I subscribe to. I heard about it through personal e-mails and then the press. Did I miss the e-mails too? S.
Re: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)
Sorry, hit send too soon. On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > Now... with that said. Consider a typical person from the ASF who > might want to do that. Say.. like myself. I don't know what list to > subscribe to. (name only one!) ... If somebody can say what list that > ASF people could subscribe to, then something like this could happen. > TDF/LO's mailing lists are listed here: http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/#lists I subscribe to Announce and Steering-Discuss - I suggest the latter would be a good place to go say hi and offer to be helpful. S.
Re: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 19:23, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > >> (like our invitation to general@incubator) ... Did I miss it? > > Actually I have not seen any invitations from anyone associated with this > proposal on the LibreOffice and Document Foundation lists I subscribe to. I > heard about it through personal e-mails and then the press. Did I miss the > e-mails too? Jim sent something; maybe that was just to a few individuals? (Italo and Louis, at least) I thought something had gone out since people have been showing up. Cheers, -g - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 19:23, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > > > >> (like our invitation to general@incubator) ... Did I miss it? > > > > Actually I have not seen any invitations from anyone associated with this > > proposal on the LibreOffice and Document Foundation lists I subscribe to. > I > > heard about it through personal e-mails and then the press. Did I miss > the > > e-mails too? > > Jim sent something; maybe that was just to a few individuals? (Italo > and Louis, at least) I thought something had gone out since people > have been showing up. > Must've been private. Personally I think it would be great for someone to show up on both the openoffice.org and Document Foundation mailing lists and say "hey, I know you've felt the ground rumbling, are there any questions I can help with". But maybe I'm naive :-) S.
RE: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)
Here are the global lists: < http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/#lists> I suggest the steering-disc...@documentationfoundation.org or, if you find that too forward (or if posting is restricted), just disc...@documentfoundation.org for starters. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Greg Stein [mailto:gst...@gmail.com] < http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/%3cbanlktimu0roezdocxkgn_9dacyf6qej...@mail.gmail.com%3e> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 16:08 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO) [ ... ] Now... with that said. Consider a typical person from the ASF who might want to do that. Say.. like myself. I don't know what list to subscribe to. (name only one!) ... If somebody can say what list that ASF people could subscribe to, then something like this could happen. [ ... ] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)
I popped into the LO IRC channel a few times Sent from my mobile device (so please excuse typos) On 4 Jun 2011, at 00:39, Greg Stein wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 19:23, Simon Phipps wrote: >> On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Greg Stein wrote: >> >>> (like our invitation to general@incubator) ... Did I miss it? >> >> Actually I have not seen any invitations from anyone associated with this >> proposal on the LibreOffice and Document Foundation lists I subscribe to. I >> heard about it through personal e-mails and then the press. Did I miss the >> e-mails too? > > Jim sent something; maybe that was just to a few individuals? (Italo > and Louis, at least) I thought something had gone out since people > have been showing up. > > Cheers, > -g > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)
I've now subscribed to libreoffice@, steering-discuss@, and discuss@. I dropped a "hello" email to the lists, and am going into lurk mode :-) On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 19:45, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Here are the global lists: > < http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/#lists> > > I suggest the steering-disc...@documentationfoundation.org or, if you find > that too forward (or if posting is restricted), just > disc...@documentfoundation.org for starters. > > - Dennis > > > > -Original Message- > From: Greg Stein [mailto:gst...@gmail.com] > < > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/%3cbanlktimu0roezdocxkgn_9dacyf6qej...@mail.gmail.com%3e> > Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 16:08 > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator > Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO) > > [ ... ] > > Now... with that said. Consider a typical person from the ASF who might want > to do that. Say.. like myself. I don't know what list to subscribe to. (name > only one!) ... If somebody can say what list that ASF people could subscribe > to, then something like this could happen. > > [ ... ] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)
I can confirm I just saw your "Hello" message go out - awesome! S. On 4 Jun 2011, at 01:21, Greg Stein wrote: > I've now subscribed to libreoffice@, steering-discuss@, and discuss@. > I dropped a "hello" email to the lists, and am going into lurk mode > :-) > > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 19:45, Dennis E. Hamilton > wrote: >> Here are the global lists: >> < http://www.documentfoundation.org/contribution/#lists> >> >> I suggest the steering-disc...@documentationfoundation.org or, if you find >> that too forward (or if posting is restricted), just >> disc...@documentfoundation.org for starters. >> >> - Dennis >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Greg Stein [mailto:gst...@gmail.com] >> < >> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201106.mbox/%3cbanlktimu0roezdocxkgn_9dacyf6qej...@mail.gmail.com%3e> >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 16:08 >> To: general@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator >> Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO) >> >> [ ... ] >> >> Now... with that said. Consider a typical person from the ASF who might want >> to do that. Say.. like myself. I don't know what list to subscribe to. (name >> only one!) ... If somebody can say what list that ASF people could subscribe >> to, then something like this could happen. >> >> [ ... ] >> >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 07:07:39PM -0400, Greg Stein wrote: > > But engaging the LO community on a basic matter of "hey. I'm here to > answer any questions, and to listen to concerns." Acting as a raw > conduit can be difficult (witness Jim's early emails being forwarded > across the lists). > I've been reminded quite a bit lately that the OOo community is much more than "just" OOo and LOo/TDF; I want to make sure that we are also reaching out to everyone. -- === Jim Jagielski [|] j...@jagunet.com [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ "Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war" ~ John Adams - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Discussion with TDF/LO people (was: Apache OpenOffice.org Incubator Proposal: Collaboration with TDF/LO)
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 12:43:38AM +0100, Simon Phipps wrote: > > Must've been private. Personally I think it would be great for someone to > show up on both the openoffice.org and Document Foundation mailing lists and > say "hey, I know you've felt the ground rumbling, are there any questions I > can help with". But maybe I'm naive :-) > I've reach out personally and directly to Italo and Louis, asking them to rely my invite to their communities. I've also asked them, again personally and directly, if they would want me to post something on their lists, basically with the "ground rumbling" concept, and asked their suggestions. On the former, if they haven't yet gotten around to bringing their communities up to speed, I'm sure its simply due to time restraints; As for the latter, I've never heard back. -- === Jim Jagielski [|] j...@jagunet.com [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ "Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war" ~ John Adams - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
