RE: DISCUSS: Trafodion for TLP

[Roberta Marton]

We have completed 2 releases and have a patch release under vote.

For release 1.3.0, I was the release manager:

   We did 5 RC's and documentation was written to help future release
managers (https://cwiki.
apache.org/confluence/display/TRAFODION/Create+Release )

For release 2.0.0, Steve Varnau was the release manager:

   We did 3 RC's, and the document (above) was updated to add binary support

For patch release 2.0.1, current being voted upon:

   We have 1 RC

A lot of issues we had to deal with was related to getting copyrights,
licenses, etc. all set up to meet Apache standards. These should be
addressed.  To make sure future releases don't create copyright or licensing
issues, we added automated checks and balances in our release process; for
example, we run RAT reports during our Jenkins testing.


Roberta

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From: shaposh...@gmail.com [mailto:shaposh...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Roman
Shaposhnik
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 7:41 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: DISCUSS: Trafodion for TLP

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
> We'd like to solicit feedback on whether the Trafodiion project is
> ready to go TLP. I am the project Champion writing on behalf of the
> project PMC.
>
> Our clutch report is nice and healthy [2]. Our up-to-date status page

> out of incubator up to this (with another up for vote).

I'm curious to know how many RC were required to produce each of these
releases. Can you please provide those stats?

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: DISCUSS: Trafodion for TLP

[Roman Shaposhnik]

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 9:08 PM, Stack  wrote:
> We'd like to solicit feedback on whether the Trafodiion project is ready to
> go TLP. I am the project Champion writing on behalf of the project PMC.
>
> Our clutch report is nice and healthy [2]. Our up-to-date status page can
> be found here [1.]. Development is brisk. We've made two releases out of
> incubator up to this (with another up for vote).

I'm curious to know how many RC were required to produce each of these
releases. Can you please provide those stats?

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: DISCUSS: Trafodion for TLP

[John D. Ament]

I think my concern is around community growth based on what's being
described.  I can understand the company focusing on this technology, but
we want a diverse community.  If there are any up coming committers who are
not company employees that would be great to see.  Otherwise there's high
reliance on salaried employees still.

John

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 3:25 PM Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> wrote:

> Thanks a lot for the clarification, Dave.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Dave Birdsall <dave.birds...@esgyn.com>
> wrote:
>
> > That is close. When entering incubation, all nine of the original
> Trafodion
> > committers were HP employees. Of those, four decamped to Esgyn. Five
> > remained at HP or found other affiliations but have largely been
> inactive.
> > More Esgyn committers have been added since.
> >
> > One non-Esgyn committer, Pierre Smits, has been added since entering
> > incubation.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andrew Purtell [mailto:apurt...@apache.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 12:12 PM
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: Re: DISCUSS: Trafodion for TLP
> >
> > Am I correct in understanding that when entering incubation all Trafodion
> > committers were Esgyn employees and after one year the podling has added
> > three new committers of different affiliation?
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
> >
> > > We'd like to solicit feedback on whether the Trafodiion project is
> > > ready to go TLP. I am the project Champion writing on behalf of the
> > > project PMC.
> > >
> > > Our clutch report is nice and healthy [2]. Our up-to-date status page
> > > can be found here [1.]. Development is brisk. We've made two releases
> > > out of incubator up to this (with another up for vote). We have taken
> > > on new committers since we entered incubation about a year ago.
> > >
> > > The main downside that we see is that we have few users -- going by
> > > traffic up on the mailing list -- and that near all committers are
> > > from a single company, Esgyn (Three committers are not Esgyn
> employees).
> > >
> > > Feedback/opinions appreciated.
> > >
> > > Yours,
> > > St.Ack
> > >
> > > 1. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > > 2. http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> >
> >- Andy
> >
> > Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> > (via Tom White)
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> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
>- Andy
>
> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> (via Tom White)
>

Re: DISCUSS: Trafodion for TLP

[Andrew Purtell]

Thanks a lot for the clarification, Dave.


On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Dave Birdsall <dave.birds...@esgyn.com>
wrote:

> That is close. When entering incubation, all nine of the original Trafodion
> committers were HP employees. Of those, four decamped to Esgyn. Five
> remained at HP or found other affiliations but have largely been inactive.
> More Esgyn committers have been added since.
>
> One non-Esgyn committer, Pierre Smits, has been added since entering
> incubation.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew Purtell [mailto:apurt...@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 12:12 PM
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: DISCUSS: Trafodion for TLP
>
> Am I correct in understanding that when entering incubation all Trafodion
> committers were Esgyn employees and after one year the podling has added
> three new committers of different affiliation?
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:
>
> > We'd like to solicit feedback on whether the Trafodiion project is
> > ready to go TLP. I am the project Champion writing on behalf of the
> > project PMC.
> >
> > Our clutch report is nice and healthy [2]. Our up-to-date status page
> > can be found here [1.]. Development is brisk. We've made two releases
> > out of incubator up to this (with another up for vote). We have taken
> > on new committers since we entered incubation about a year ago.
> >
> > The main downside that we see is that we have few users -- going by
> > traffic up on the mailing list -- and that near all committers are
> > from a single company, Esgyn (Three committers are not Esgyn employees).
> >
> > Feedback/opinions appreciated.
> >
> > Yours,
> > St.Ack
> >
> > 1. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> > 2. http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
>- Andy
>
> Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
> (via Tom White)
>
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>


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Best regards,

   - Andy

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(via Tom White)

RE: DISCUSS: Trafodion for TLP

[Dave Birdsall]

That is close. When entering incubation, all nine of the original Trafodion
committers were HP employees. Of those, four decamped to Esgyn. Five
remained at HP or found other affiliations but have largely been inactive.
More Esgyn committers have been added since.

One non-Esgyn committer, Pierre Smits, has been added since entering
incubation.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Purtell [mailto:apurt...@apache.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2016 12:12 PM
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: DISCUSS: Trafodion for TLP

Am I correct in understanding that when entering incubation all Trafodion
committers were Esgyn employees and after one year the podling has added
three new committers of different affiliation?

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Stack <st...@duboce.net> wrote:

> We'd like to solicit feedback on whether the Trafodiion project is
> ready to go TLP. I am the project Champion writing on behalf of the
> project PMC.
>
> Our clutch report is nice and healthy [2]. Our up-to-date status page
> can be found here [1.]. Development is brisk. We've made two releases
> out of incubator up to this (with another up for vote). We have taken
> on new committers since we entered incubation about a year ago.
>
> The main downside that we see is that we have few users -- going by
> traffic up on the mailing list -- and that near all committers are
> from a single company, Esgyn (Three committers are not Esgyn employees).
>
> Feedback/opinions appreciated.
>
> Yours,
> St.Ack
>
> 1. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> 2. http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html
>



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   - Andy

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(via Tom White)

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Re: DISCUSS: Trafodion for TLP

[Andrew Purtell]

Am I correct in understanding that when entering incubation all Trafodion
committers were Esgyn employees and after one year the podling has added
three new committers of different affiliation?

On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Stack  wrote:

> We'd like to solicit feedback on whether the Trafodiion project is ready to
> go TLP. I am the project Champion writing on behalf of the project PMC.
>
> Our clutch report is nice and healthy [2]. Our up-to-date status page can
> be found here [1.]. Development is brisk. We've made two releases out of
> incubator up to this (with another up for vote). We have taken on new
> committers since we entered incubation about a year ago.
>
> The main downside that we see is that we have few users -- going by traffic
> up on the mailing list -- and that near all committers are from a single
> company, Esgyn (Three committers are not Esgyn employees).
>
> Feedback/opinions appreciated.
>
> Yours,
> St.Ack
>
> 1. http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafodion.html
> 2. http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html
>



-- 
Best regards,

   - Andy

Problems worthy of attack prove their worth by hitting back. - Piet Hein
(via Tom White)