Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate NEMO to TLP

[Jeongyoon Eo]

Sure. Thank you for your suggestion!

We've addressed all of Calvin's concerns:

   - Website issues are done (Check
   https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/nemo for the result) ✅
   - Removing the affiliation list on the website is done ✅
   - Branding issue: at the beginning of the incubation, we did the podling
   name search and were approved to use the name Nemo
    🙂 hence
   it's not an issue ✅

Calvin, could you check on whether we addressed your concerns properly?

Thank you in advance!

Best,
Jeongyoon
*--*
*Jeongyoon Eo*
Software Platform Lab
Department of Computer Science and Engineering
Seoul National University
Email: jeongyoon0...@gmail.com 


On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 8:25 PM Willem Jiang  wrote:

> Please address these concerns one by one.
> I think Calvin's is much easier to address.
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 12:47 PM Byung-Gon Chun  wrote:
> >
> > We have some concerns from William and Calvin.
> > How should we proceed?
> >
> > Thanks.
> > -Gon
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:45 PM Willem Jiang 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I just checked the contribution of the Nemo project[1] and the traffic
> > > of d...@nemo.apache.org[2].
> > > It looks like the project was quiet for two years.  I have a concern
> > > if this project can still be active after graduation.
> > >
> > > I think we need to provide more evidence that the project already
> > > builds up the community.
> > >
> > > [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/graphs/contributors
> > > [2]https://lists.apache.org/list?d...@nemo.apache.org
> > >
> > > Willem Jiang
> > >
> > > Twitter: willemjiang
> > > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 6:33 PM Won Wook SONG 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Do we have additional opinions or feedback on what we have to do in
> order
> > > > to proceed to our further steps, or are we ready to go?
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Wonook
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2022년 11월 11일 (금) 오후 4:01, Byung-Gon Chun 님이 작성:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > The Nemo codebase has been well established. It's one of Apache
> Beam
> > > > > runners, and it can be used in Google dataproc. Its batch
> processing is
> > > > > mature, and the community has been working on stream processing.
> > > > > The current committers will be added to PMC.
> > > > > I think the Nemo project should have graduated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Gon
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 3:06 PM Won Wook SONG 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for your feedback :) I've solved the issues related to our
> > > > > website.
> > > > > > As for the activity level, our system has initially gone over a
> > > thorough
> > > > > > development period at first. Now that essential features are
> already
> > > > > > developed, we have been adding more specific features like
> dynamic
> > > task
> > > > > > offloading, hierarchical aggregation, dynamic skew detection, and
> > > > > extending
> > > > > > our data plane to special file systems. Such development had been
> > > done in
> > > > > > units of projects, and their PRs are quite large in terms of
> size,
> > > and
> > > > > > could have been reflected as an inactiveness in the Nemo
> project, but
> > > > > this
> > > > > > is actually not the case.
> > > > > > I'll try to gently push our mentors for additional feedbacks.
> > > > > > If you have any additional questions or concerns, please let us
> know!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wonook
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Nov 7, 2022, at 5:14 PM, Calvin Kirs  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 4:09 PM Calvin Kirs 
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nemo's activity level has been low for the past year or so, so
> I'm
> > > not
> > > > > > sure it's the right time to graduate, the last PPMC elected was
> in
> > > > > > September 2021.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and also there is only one mentor involved in your graduation
> > > > > > discussion, and I would like to hear the thoughts of other
> mentors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here are some issues that need to be addressed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The website has some issues, please refer to [1].
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is not recommended to list affiliation( in [2], as it can
> confuse
> > > > > > people.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Checking google search, I can see a lot of Nemo software
> products,
> > > I'm
> > > > > > not sure if the branding issue is addressed, but I see [3]， maybe
> > > it's
> > > > > > fine. (I'm not familiar with Nemo).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [1]: https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/nemo
> > > > > > [2]https://nemo.apache.org/pages/team/
> > > > > > [3]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-139
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There are still some PPMCs not su

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate NEMO to TLP

[Willem Jiang]

Please address these concerns one by one.
I think Calvin's is much easier to address.

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 12:47 PM Byung-Gon Chun  wrote:
>
> We have some concerns from William and Calvin.
> How should we proceed?
>
> Thanks.
> -Gon
>
> On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:45 PM Willem Jiang 
> wrote:
>
> > I just checked the contribution of the Nemo project[1] and the traffic
> > of d...@nemo.apache.org[2].
> > It looks like the project was quiet for two years.  I have a concern
> > if this project can still be active after graduation.
> >
> > I think we need to provide more evidence that the project already
> > builds up the community.
> >
> > [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/graphs/contributors
> > [2]https://lists.apache.org/list?d...@nemo.apache.org
> >
> > Willem Jiang
> >
> > Twitter: willemjiang
> > Weibo: 姜宁willem
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 6:33 PM Won Wook SONG  wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Do we have additional opinions or feedback on what we have to do in order
> > > to proceed to our further steps, or are we ready to go?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Wonook
> > >
> > >
> > > 2022년 11월 11일 (금) 오후 4:01, Byung-Gon Chun 님이 작성:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > The Nemo codebase has been well established. It's one of Apache Beam
> > > > runners, and it can be used in Google dataproc. Its batch processing is
> > > > mature, and the community has been working on stream processing.
> > > > The current committers will be added to PMC.
> > > > I think the Nemo project should have graduated.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Gon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 3:06 PM Won Wook SONG 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your feedback :) I've solved the issues related to our
> > > > website.
> > > > > As for the activity level, our system has initially gone over a
> > thorough
> > > > > development period at first. Now that essential features are already
> > > > > developed, we have been adding more specific features like dynamic
> > task
> > > > > offloading, hierarchical aggregation, dynamic skew detection, and
> > > > extending
> > > > > our data plane to special file systems. Such development had been
> > done in
> > > > > units of projects, and their PRs are quite large in terms of size,
> > and
> > > > > could have been reflected as an inactiveness in the Nemo project, but
> > > > this
> > > > > is actually not the case.
> > > > > I'll try to gently push our mentors for additional feedbacks.
> > > > > If you have any additional questions or concerns, please let us know!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you!
> > > > >
> > > > > Wonook
> > > > >
> > > > > On Nov 7, 2022, at 5:14 PM, Calvin Kirs  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 4:09 PM Calvin Kirs  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Nemo's activity level has been low for the past year or so, so I'm
> > not
> > > > > sure it's the right time to graduate, the last PPMC elected was in
> > > > > September 2021.
> > > > >
> > > > > and also there is only one mentor involved in your graduation
> > > > > discussion, and I would like to hear the thoughts of other mentors.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here are some issues that need to be addressed.
> > > > >
> > > > > The website has some issues, please refer to [1].
> > > > >
> > > > > It is not recommended to list affiliation( in [2], as it can confuse
> > > > > people.
> > > > >
> > > > > Checking google search, I can see a lot of Nemo software products,
> > I'm
> > > > > not sure if the branding issue is addressed, but I see [3]， maybe
> > it's
> > > > > fine. (I'm not familiar with Nemo).
> > > > >
> > > > > [1]: https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/nemo
> > > > > [2]https://nemo.apache.org/pages/team/
> > > > > [3]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-139
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There are still some PPMCs not subscribe private@nemo.a.o.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 12:39 PM Won Wook SONG 
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > The Apache Nemo podling has discussed[0]
> > > > > 
> > and
> > > > > voted
> > > > > upon[1] <
> > > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/dzfq12xdwbtmsn1l527o56kh56kz31mh>
> > > > > graduation as a TLP. Following the incubation guide[2]
> > > > > , we now ask
> > for
> > > > > feedback on our graduation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks to everyone who helped this project to get this far!
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Wonook
> > > > >
> > > > > [0]:
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/hv196tfg6jzltsjxnj28q572y6p3lvq2
> > > > > [1]:
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/dzfq12xdwbtmsn1l527o56kh56kz31mh
> > > > > [2]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > X. Establish the Apache Nemo Project
> > > > >
> 

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate NEMO to TLP

[Byung-Gon Chun]

We have some concerns from William and Calvin.
How should we proceed?

Thanks.
-Gon

On Thu, Nov 17, 2022 at 12:45 PM Willem Jiang 
wrote:

> I just checked the contribution of the Nemo project[1] and the traffic
> of d...@nemo.apache.org[2].
> It looks like the project was quiet for two years.  I have a concern
> if this project can still be active after graduation.
>
> I think we need to provide more evidence that the project already
> builds up the community.
>
> [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/graphs/contributors
> [2]https://lists.apache.org/list?d...@nemo.apache.org
>
> Willem Jiang
>
> Twitter: willemjiang
> Weibo: 姜宁willem
>
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 6:33 PM Won Wook SONG  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Do we have additional opinions or feedback on what we have to do in order
> > to proceed to our further steps, or are we ready to go?
> >
> > Best,
> > Wonook
> >
> >
> > 2022년 11월 11일 (금) 오후 4:01, Byung-Gon Chun 님이 작성:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > The Nemo codebase has been well established. It's one of Apache Beam
> > > runners, and it can be used in Google dataproc. Its batch processing is
> > > mature, and the community has been working on stream processing.
> > > The current committers will be added to PMC.
> > > I think the Nemo project should have graduated.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Gon
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 3:06 PM Won Wook SONG 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your feedback :) I've solved the issues related to our
> > > website.
> > > > As for the activity level, our system has initially gone over a
> thorough
> > > > development period at first. Now that essential features are already
> > > > developed, we have been adding more specific features like dynamic
> task
> > > > offloading, hierarchical aggregation, dynamic skew detection, and
> > > extending
> > > > our data plane to special file systems. Such development had been
> done in
> > > > units of projects, and their PRs are quite large in terms of size,
> and
> > > > could have been reflected as an inactiveness in the Nemo project, but
> > > this
> > > > is actually not the case.
> > > > I'll try to gently push our mentors for additional feedbacks.
> > > > If you have any additional questions or concerns, please let us know!
> > > >
> > > > Thank you!
> > > >
> > > > Wonook
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 7, 2022, at 5:14 PM, Calvin Kirs  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 4:09 PM Calvin Kirs  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Nemo's activity level has been low for the past year or so, so I'm
> not
> > > > sure it's the right time to graduate, the last PPMC elected was in
> > > > September 2021.
> > > >
> > > > and also there is only one mentor involved in your graduation
> > > > discussion, and I would like to hear the thoughts of other mentors.
> > > >
> > > > Here are some issues that need to be addressed.
> > > >
> > > > The website has some issues, please refer to [1].
> > > >
> > > > It is not recommended to list affiliation( in [2], as it can confuse
> > > > people.
> > > >
> > > > Checking google search, I can see a lot of Nemo software products,
> I'm
> > > > not sure if the branding issue is addressed, but I see [3]， maybe
> it's
> > > > fine. (I'm not familiar with Nemo).
> > > >
> > > > [1]: https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/nemo
> > > > [2]https://nemo.apache.org/pages/team/
> > > > [3]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-139
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There are still some PPMCs not subscribe private@nemo.a.o.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 12:39 PM Won Wook SONG 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > The Apache Nemo podling has discussed[0]
> > > > 
> and
> > > > voted
> > > > upon[1] <
> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread/dzfq12xdwbtmsn1l527o56kh56kz31mh>
> > > > graduation as a TLP. Following the incubation guide[2]
> > > > , we now ask
> for
> > > > feedback on our graduation.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks to everyone who helped this project to get this far!
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > > Wonook
> > > >
> > > > [0]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/hv196tfg6jzltsjxnj28q572y6p3lvq2
> > > > [1]:
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/dzfq12xdwbtmsn1l527o56kh56kz31mh
> > > > [2]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > X. Establish the Apache Nemo Project
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> > > >
> > > >interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> > > >
> > > >Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> > > >
> > > >Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> > > >
> > > >open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> > > >
> > > >public, related to application development on top of
> > > >
>

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate NEMO to TLP

[Willem Jiang]

I just checked the contribution of the Nemo project[1] and the traffic
of d...@nemo.apache.org[2].
It looks like the project was quiet for two years.  I have a concern
if this project can still be active after graduation.

I think we need to provide more evidence that the project already
builds up the community.

[1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-nemo/graphs/contributors
[2]https://lists.apache.org/list?d...@nemo.apache.org

Willem Jiang

Twitter: willemjiang
Weibo: 姜宁willem

On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 6:33 PM Won Wook SONG  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Do we have additional opinions or feedback on what we have to do in order
> to proceed to our further steps, or are we ready to go?
>
> Best,
> Wonook
>
>
> 2022년 11월 11일 (금) 오후 4:01, Byung-Gon Chun 님이 작성:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > The Nemo codebase has been well established. It's one of Apache Beam
> > runners, and it can be used in Google dataproc. Its batch processing is
> > mature, and the community has been working on stream processing.
> > The current committers will be added to PMC.
> > I think the Nemo project should have graduated.
> >
> > Best,
> > Gon
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 3:06 PM Won Wook SONG  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Thanks for your feedback :) I've solved the issues related to our
> > website.
> > > As for the activity level, our system has initially gone over a thorough
> > > development period at first. Now that essential features are already
> > > developed, we have been adding more specific features like dynamic task
> > > offloading, hierarchical aggregation, dynamic skew detection, and
> > extending
> > > our data plane to special file systems. Such development had been done in
> > > units of projects, and their PRs are quite large in terms of size, and
> > > could have been reflected as an inactiveness in the Nemo project, but
> > this
> > > is actually not the case.
> > > I'll try to gently push our mentors for additional feedbacks.
> > > If you have any additional questions or concerns, please let us know!
> > >
> > > Thank you!
> > >
> > > Wonook
> > >
> > > On Nov 7, 2022, at 5:14 PM, Calvin Kirs  wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 4:09 PM Calvin Kirs  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Nemo's activity level has been low for the past year or so, so I'm not
> > > sure it's the right time to graduate, the last PPMC elected was in
> > > September 2021.
> > >
> > > and also there is only one mentor involved in your graduation
> > > discussion, and I would like to hear the thoughts of other mentors.
> > >
> > > Here are some issues that need to be addressed.
> > >
> > > The website has some issues, please refer to [1].
> > >
> > > It is not recommended to list affiliation( in [2], as it can confuse
> > > people.
> > >
> > > Checking google search, I can see a lot of Nemo software products, I'm
> > > not sure if the branding issue is addressed, but I see [3]， maybe it's
> > > fine. (I'm not familiar with Nemo).
> > >
> > > [1]: https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/nemo
> > > [2]https://nemo.apache.org/pages/team/
> > > [3]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-139
> > >
> > >
> > > There are still some PPMCs not subscribe private@nemo.a.o.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 12:39 PM Won Wook SONG  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > The Apache Nemo podling has discussed[0]
> > >  and
> > > voted
> > > upon[1] <
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/dzfq12xdwbtmsn1l527o56kh56kz31mh>
> > > graduation as a TLP. Following the incubation guide[2]
> > > , we now ask for
> > > feedback on our graduation.
> > >
> > > Thanks to everyone who helped this project to get this far!
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Wonook
> > >
> > > [0]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/hv196tfg6jzltsjxnj28q572y6p3lvq2
> > > [1]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/dzfq12xdwbtmsn1l527o56kh56kz31mh
> > > [2]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > X. Establish the Apache Nemo Project
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> > >
> > >interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> > >
> > >Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> > >
> > >Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> > >
> > >open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> > >
> > >public, related to application development on top of
> > >
> > >resource managers.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> > >
> > >Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Nemo Project",
> > >
> > >be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> > >
> > >Foundation; and be it further
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >RESOLVED, that the Apache Nemo Project be and hereby is
> > >
> > >responsibl

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate NEMO to TLP

[Won Wook SONG]

Hi,

Do we have additional opinions or feedback on what we have to do in order
to proceed to our further steps, or are we ready to go?

Best,
Wonook


2022년 11월 11일 (금) 오후 4:01, Byung-Gon Chun 님이 작성:

> Hi,
>
> The Nemo codebase has been well established. It's one of Apache Beam
> runners, and it can be used in Google dataproc. Its batch processing is
> mature, and the community has been working on stream processing.
> The current committers will be added to PMC.
> I think the Nemo project should have graduated.
>
> Best,
> Gon
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 3:06 PM Won Wook SONG  wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > Thanks for your feedback :) I've solved the issues related to our
> website.
> > As for the activity level, our system has initially gone over a thorough
> > development period at first. Now that essential features are already
> > developed, we have been adding more specific features like dynamic task
> > offloading, hierarchical aggregation, dynamic skew detection, and
> extending
> > our data plane to special file systems. Such development had been done in
> > units of projects, and their PRs are quite large in terms of size, and
> > could have been reflected as an inactiveness in the Nemo project, but
> this
> > is actually not the case.
> > I'll try to gently push our mentors for additional feedbacks.
> > If you have any additional questions or concerns, please let us know!
> >
> > Thank you!
> >
> > Wonook
> >
> > On Nov 7, 2022, at 5:14 PM, Calvin Kirs  wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 4:09 PM Calvin Kirs  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Nemo's activity level has been low for the past year or so, so I'm not
> > sure it's the right time to graduate, the last PPMC elected was in
> > September 2021.
> >
> > and also there is only one mentor involved in your graduation
> > discussion, and I would like to hear the thoughts of other mentors.
> >
> > Here are some issues that need to be addressed.
> >
> > The website has some issues, please refer to [1].
> >
> > It is not recommended to list affiliation( in [2], as it can confuse
> > people.
> >
> > Checking google search, I can see a lot of Nemo software products, I'm
> > not sure if the branding issue is addressed, but I see [3]， maybe it's
> > fine. (I'm not familiar with Nemo).
> >
> > [1]: https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/nemo
> > [2]https://nemo.apache.org/pages/team/
> > [3]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-139
> >
> >
> > There are still some PPMCs not subscribe private@nemo.a.o.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 12:39 PM Won Wook SONG  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The Apache Nemo podling has discussed[0]
> >  and
> > voted
> > upon[1] <
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/dzfq12xdwbtmsn1l527o56kh56kz31mh>
> > graduation as a TLP. Following the incubation guide[2]
> > , we now ask for
> > feedback on our graduation.
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who helped this project to get this far!
> >
> > Best,
> > Wonook
> >
> > [0]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/hv196tfg6jzltsjxnj28q572y6p3lvq2
> > [1]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/dzfq12xdwbtmsn1l527o56kh56kz31mh
> > [2]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
> >
> >
> > --
> > X. Establish the Apache Nemo Project
> >
> >
> >
> >WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >
> >interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >
> >Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >
> >Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >
> >open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> >
> >public, related to application development on top of
> >
> >resource managers.
> >
> >
> >
> >NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >
> >Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Nemo Project",
> >
> >be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >
> >Foundation; and be it further
> >
> >
> >
> >RESOLVED, that the Apache Nemo Project be and hereby is
> >
> >responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
> >
> >framework for application development on top of resource
> >
> >managers; and be it further
> >
> >
> >
> >RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Nemo"
> >
> >be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> >
> >serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> >
> >of the Apache Nemo Project, and to have primary
> >
> >responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
> >
> >of responsibility of the Apache Nemo Project; and be it
> >
> >further
> >
> >
> >
> >RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >
> >hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >
> >Apache

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate NEMO to TLP

[Byung-Gon Chun]

Hi,

The Nemo codebase has been well established. It's one of Apache Beam
runners, and it can be used in Google dataproc. Its batch processing is
mature, and the community has been working on stream processing.
The current committers will be added to PMC.
I think the Nemo project should have graduated.

Best,
Gon


On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 3:06 PM Won Wook SONG  wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Thanks for your feedback :) I've solved the issues related to our website.
> As for the activity level, our system has initially gone over a thorough
> development period at first. Now that essential features are already
> developed, we have been adding more specific features like dynamic task
> offloading, hierarchical aggregation, dynamic skew detection, and extending
> our data plane to special file systems. Such development had been done in
> units of projects, and their PRs are quite large in terms of size, and
> could have been reflected as an inactiveness in the Nemo project, but this
> is actually not the case.
> I'll try to gently push our mentors for additional feedbacks.
> If you have any additional questions or concerns, please let us know!
>
> Thank you!
>
> Wonook
>
> On Nov 7, 2022, at 5:14 PM, Calvin Kirs  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 4:09 PM Calvin Kirs  wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Nemo's activity level has been low for the past year or so, so I'm not
> sure it's the right time to graduate, the last PPMC elected was in
> September 2021.
>
> and also there is only one mentor involved in your graduation
> discussion, and I would like to hear the thoughts of other mentors.
>
> Here are some issues that need to be addressed.
>
> The website has some issues, please refer to [1].
>
> It is not recommended to list affiliation( in [2], as it can confuse
> people.
>
> Checking google search, I can see a lot of Nemo software products, I'm
> not sure if the branding issue is addressed, but I see [3]， maybe it's
> fine. (I'm not familiar with Nemo).
>
> [1]: https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/nemo
> [2]https://nemo.apache.org/pages/team/
> [3]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-139
>
>
> There are still some PPMCs not subscribe private@nemo.a.o.
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 12:39 PM Won Wook SONG  wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> The Apache Nemo podling has discussed[0]
>  and
> voted
> upon[1] 
> graduation as a TLP. Following the incubation guide[2]
> , we now ask for
> feedback on our graduation.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped this project to get this far!
>
> Best,
> Wonook
>
> [0]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/hv196tfg6jzltsjxnj28q572y6p3lvq2
> [1]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/dzfq12xdwbtmsn1l527o56kh56kz31mh
> [2]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>
>
> --
> X. Establish the Apache Nemo Project
>
>
>
>WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>
>interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>
>Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>
>Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>
>open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
>
>public, related to application development on top of
>
>resource managers.
>
>
>
>NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>
>Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Nemo Project",
>
>be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>
>Foundation; and be it further
>
>
>
>RESOLVED, that the Apache Nemo Project be and hereby is
>
>responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
>
>framework for application development on top of resource
>
>managers; and be it further
>
>
>
>RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Nemo"
>
>be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>
>serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>
>of the Apache Nemo Project, and to have primary
>
>responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
>
>of responsibility of the Apache Nemo Project; and be it
>
>further
>
>
>
>RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>
>hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>
>Apache Nemo Project Management Committee:
>
>
>
>* Won Wook SONG 
>
>* Byung-Gon Chun 
>
>* Geon-Woo Kim 
>
>* Gyewon Lee 
>
>* Haeyoon Cho 
>
>* Hwarim Hyun 
>
>* Jangho Seo 
>
>* Jeongyoon Eo 
>
>* Jung-Gil Lee 
>
>* Yeongseok Yang 
>
>* Joo Yeon Kim 
>
>* Sanha Lee 
>
>* Taegeon Um 
>
>* Wooyeon Lee 
>
>* Yunseong Lee 
>
>NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Won Wook SO

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate NEMO to TLP

[Won Wook SONG]

Hi!

Thanks for your feedback :) I've solved the issues related to our website.
As for the activity level, our system has initially gone over a thorough
development period at first. Now that essential features are already
developed, we have been adding more specific features like dynamic task
offloading, hierarchical aggregation, dynamic skew detection, and extending
our data plane to special file systems. Such development had been done in
units of projects, and their PRs are quite large in terms of size, and
could have been reflected as an inactiveness in the Nemo project, but this
is actually not the case.
I'll try to gently push our mentors for additional feedbacks.
If you have any additional questions or concerns, please let us know!

Thank you!

Wonook

On Nov 7, 2022, at 5:14 PM, Calvin Kirs  wrote:

On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 4:09 PM Calvin Kirs  wrote:


Hi,

Nemo's activity level has been low for the past year or so, so I'm not
sure it's the right time to graduate, the last PPMC elected was in
September 2021.

and also there is only one mentor involved in your graduation
discussion, and I would like to hear the thoughts of other mentors.

Here are some issues that need to be addressed.

The website has some issues, please refer to [1].

It is not recommended to list affiliation( in [2], as it can confuse people.

Checking google search, I can see a lot of Nemo software products, I'm
not sure if the branding issue is addressed, but I see [3]， maybe it's
fine. (I'm not familiar with Nemo).

[1]: https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/nemo
[2]https://nemo.apache.org/pages/team/
[3]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-139


There are still some PPMCs not subscribe private@nemo.a.o.


On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 12:39 PM Won Wook SONG  wrote:


Hi all,

The Apache Nemo podling has discussed[0]
 and voted
upon[1] 
graduation as a TLP. Following the incubation guide[2]
, we now ask for
feedback on our graduation.

Thanks to everyone who helped this project to get this far!

Best,
Wonook

[0]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/hv196tfg6jzltsjxnj28q572y6p3lvq2
[1]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/dzfq12xdwbtmsn1l527o56kh56kz31mh
[2]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html


--
X. Establish the Apache Nemo Project



   WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best

   interests of the Foundation and consistent with the

   Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management

   Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of

   open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the

   public, related to application development on top of

   resource managers.



   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management

   Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Nemo Project",

   be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the

   Foundation; and be it further



   RESOLVED, that the Apache Nemo Project be and hereby is

   responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software

   framework for application development on top of resource

   managers; and be it further



   RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Nemo"

   be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to

   serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair

   of the Apache Nemo Project, and to have primary

   responsibility for management of the projects within the scope

   of responsibility of the Apache Nemo Project; and be it

   further



   RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and

   hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the

   Apache Nemo Project Management Committee:



   * Won Wook SONG 

   * Byung-Gon Chun 

   * Geon-Woo Kim 

   * Gyewon Lee 

   * Haeyoon Cho 

   * Hwarim Hyun 

   * Jangho Seo 

   * Jeongyoon Eo 

   * Jung-Gil Lee 

   * Yeongseok Yang 

   * Joo Yeon Kim 

   * Sanha Lee 

   * Taegeon Um 

   * Wooyeon Lee 

   * Yunseong Lee 

   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Won Wook SONG be

   appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Nemo, to

   serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the

   Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,

   resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until

   a successor is appointed; and be it further



   RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Nemo Project be and hereby

   is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to

   encourage open development and increased participation in the

   Apache Nemo Project; and be it further

   RESOLVED, that the initial Apac

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate NEMO to TLP

[Calvin Kirs]

On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 4:09 PM Calvin Kirs  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Nemo's activity level has been low for the past year or so, so I'm not
> sure it's the right time to graduate, the last PPMC elected was in
> September 2021.
>
> and also there is only one mentor involved in your graduation
> discussion, and I would like to hear the thoughts of other mentors.
>
> Here are some issues that need to be addressed.
>
> The website has some issues, please refer to [1].
>
> It is not recommended to list affiliation( in [2], as it can confuse people.
>
> Checking google search, I can see a lot of Nemo software products, I'm
> not sure if the branding issue is addressed, but I see [3]， maybe it's
> fine. (I'm not familiar with Nemo).
>
> [1]: https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/nemo
> [2]https://nemo.apache.org/pages/team/
> [3]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-139

There are still some PPMCs not subscribe private@nemo.a.o.
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 12:39 PM Won Wook SONG  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > The Apache Nemo podling has discussed[0]
> >  and voted
> > upon[1] 
> > graduation as a TLP. Following the incubation guide[2]
> > , we now ask for
> > feedback on our graduation.
> >
> > Thanks to everyone who helped this project to get this far!
> >
> > Best,
> > Wonook
> >
> > [0]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/hv196tfg6jzltsjxnj28q572y6p3lvq2
> > [1]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/dzfq12xdwbtmsn1l527o56kh56kz31mh
> > [2]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
> >
> >
> > --
> > X. Establish the Apache Nemo Project
> >
> >
> >
> > WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
> >
> > interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
> >
> > Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
> >
> > Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
> >
> > open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
> >
> > public, related to application development on top of
> >
> > resource managers.
> >
> >
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
> >
> > Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Nemo Project",
> >
> > be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
> >
> > Foundation; and be it further
> >
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the Apache Nemo Project be and hereby is
> >
> > responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
> >
> > framework for application development on top of resource
> >
> > managers; and be it further
> >
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Nemo"
> >
> > be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
> >
> > serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
> >
> > of the Apache Nemo Project, and to have primary
> >
> > responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
> >
> > of responsibility of the Apache Nemo Project; and be it
> >
> > further
> >
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
> >
> > hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
> >
> > Apache Nemo Project Management Committee:
> >
> >
> >
> > * Won Wook SONG 
> >
> > * Byung-Gon Chun 
> >
> > * Geon-Woo Kim 
> >
> > * Gyewon Lee 
> >
> > * Haeyoon Cho 
> >
> > * Hwarim Hyun 
> >
> > * Jangho Seo 
> >
> > * Jeongyoon Eo 
> >
> > * Jung-Gil Lee 
> >
> > * Yeongseok Yang 
> >
> > * Joo Yeon Kim 
> >
> > * Sanha Lee 
> >
> > * Taegeon Um 
> >
> > * Wooyeon Lee 
> >
> > * Yunseong Lee 
> >
> > NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Won Wook SONG be
> >
> > appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Nemo, to
> >
> > serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
> >
> > Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
> >
> > resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
> >
> > a successor is appointed; and be it further
> >
> >
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Nemo Project be and hereby
> >
> > is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
> >
> > encourage open development and increased participation in the
> >
> > Apache Nemo Project; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Nemo Project be and hereby
> >
> > is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
> >
> > Incubator Nemo podling; and be it further
> >
> > RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
> >
> > 

Re: [DISCUSS] Graduate NEMO to TLP

[Calvin Kirs]

Hi,

Nemo's activity level has been low for the past year or so, so I'm not
sure it's the right time to graduate, the last PPMC elected was in
September 2021.

and also there is only one mentor involved in your graduation
discussion, and I would like to hear the thoughts of other mentors.

Here are some issues that need to be addressed.

The website has some issues, please refer to [1].

It is not recommended to list affiliation( in [2], as it can confuse people.

Checking google search, I can see a lot of Nemo software products, I'm
not sure if the branding issue is addressed, but I see [3]， maybe it's
fine. (I'm not familiar with Nemo).

[1]: https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/nemo
[2]https://nemo.apache.org/pages/team/
[3]https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-139

On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 12:39 PM Won Wook SONG  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The Apache Nemo podling has discussed[0]
>  and voted
> upon[1] 
> graduation as a TLP. Following the incubation guide[2]
> , we now ask for
> feedback on our graduation.
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped this project to get this far!
>
> Best,
> Wonook
>
> [0]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/hv196tfg6jzltsjxnj28q572y6p3lvq2
> [1]: https://lists.apache.org/thread/dzfq12xdwbtmsn1l527o56kh56kz31mh
> [2]: https://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>
>
> --
> X. Establish the Apache Nemo Project
>
>
>
> WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>
> interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>
> Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>
> Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>
> open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the
>
> public, related to application development on top of
>
> resource managers.
>
>
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>
> Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Nemo Project",
>
> be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>
> Foundation; and be it further
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the Apache Nemo Project be and hereby is
>
> responsible for the creation and maintenance of a software
>
> framework for application development on top of resource
>
> managers; and be it further
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Nemo"
>
> be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>
> serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>
> of the Apache Nemo Project, and to have primary
>
> responsibility for management of the projects within the scope
>
> of responsibility of the Apache Nemo Project; and be it
>
> further
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>
> hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>
> Apache Nemo Project Management Committee:
>
>
>
> * Won Wook SONG 
>
> * Byung-Gon Chun 
>
> * Geon-Woo Kim 
>
> * Gyewon Lee 
>
> * Haeyoon Cho 
>
> * Hwarim Hyun 
>
> * Jangho Seo 
>
> * Jeongyoon Eo 
>
> * Jung-Gil Lee 
>
> * Yeongseok Yang 
>
> * Joo Yeon Kim 
>
> * Sanha Lee 
>
> * Taegeon Um 
>
> * Wooyeon Lee 
>
> * Yunseong Lee 
>
> NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Won Wook SONG be
>
> appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache Nemo, to
>
> serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the
>
> Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death,
>
> resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until
>
> a successor is appointed; and be it further
>
>
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Nemo Project be and hereby
>
> is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>
> encourage open development and increased participation in the
>
> Apache Nemo Project; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Nemo Project be and hereby
>
> is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>
> Incubator Nemo podling; and be it further
>
> RESOLVED, that all responsibility pertaining to the Apache
>
> Incubator Nemo podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>
> PMC are hereafter discharged.



-- 
Best wishes！
CalvinKirs

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