Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Hi Sheng, thanks for pointing that, we have removed it. On 2024/03/26 08:53:50 Sheng Wu wrote: > Hi, > > At the bottom of the website, the link to Dromara 知识星球, seems to be a > commercial channel. > Please consider to remove that. ASF is a vendor neutral org, you should not > charge for end users or vendors. > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > Apache SkyWalking > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > Chao Gong 于2024年3月26日 周二16:21写道： > > > Hi Twice, we have removed the existing advertising in repo and website. > > Please see https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat > > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/. > > > > On 2024/03/19 01:59:37 Twice Pragma wrote: > > > Sorry but just for curious, I wonder how you will handle the existing > > advertising for and only for TanCloud in Hertzbeat repo and website (e.g. > > in README.md)? > > > > > > Best, > > > Twice > > > > > > ____________ > > > From: Chao Gong > > > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 1:07:40 AM > > > To: general@incubator.apache.org > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat > > > > > > Thanks for your reminder and suggestion. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Tom > > > > > > On 2024/03/17 15:32:37 Sheng Wu wrote: > > > > Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could > > > > make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during > > > > the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website, > > > > project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take > > > > time. > > > > > > > > Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you > > > > have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you > > > > will face after you donate your company core project to a > > > > vendor-neutral foundation. > > > > Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's > > > > financial good. The better your project is incubated in the > > > > foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project. > > > > Think deeply. > > > > Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a > > > > reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a > > > > startup. > > > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > > > Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道： > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sheng, > > > > > > > > > > The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains > > documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code, > > frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single > > repository. > > > > > > > > > > As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as > > Hertzbeat. We will rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish > > it from Hertzbeat. > > > > > > > > > > Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to > > build SAAS. This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will > > ensure that the vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project > > to the foundation. Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, > > logos, and other elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud. > > > > > > > > > > We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues. > > > > > > > > > > Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred > > to other incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that > > may change depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be > > patient in participating in incubation. > > > > > > > > > > Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe > > it’s acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules. > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > > > On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote: > > > > > > I have more questions around this project. > > > > > > > > > > > > I saw from the proposal, https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is > > the > > > > > > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs > > go?
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Hi, At the bottom of the website, the link to Dromara 知识星球, seems to be a commercial channel. Please consider to remove that. ASF is a vendor neutral org, you should not charge for end users or vendors. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Apache SkyWalking Twitter, wusheng1108 Chao Gong 于2024年3月26日 周二16:21写道： > Hi Twice, we have removed the existing advertising in repo and website. > Please see https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/. > > On 2024/03/19 01:59:37 Twice Pragma wrote: > > Sorry but just for curious, I wonder how you will handle the existing > advertising for and only for TanCloud in Hertzbeat repo and website (e.g. > in README.md)? > > > > Best, > > Twice > > > > > > From: Chao Gong > > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 1:07:40 AM > > To: general@incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat > > > > Thanks for your reminder and suggestion. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > Tom > > > > On 2024/03/17 15:32:37 Sheng Wu wrote: > > > Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could > > > make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during > > > the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website, > > > project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take > > > time. > > > > > > Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you > > > have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you > > > will face after you donate your company core project to a > > > vendor-neutral foundation. > > > Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's > > > financial good. The better your project is incubated in the > > > foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project. > > > Think deeply. > > > Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a > > > reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a > > > startup. > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道： > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Sheng, > > > > > > > > The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains > documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code, > frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single > repository. > > > > > > > > As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as > Hertzbeat. We will rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish > it from Hertzbeat. > > > > > > > > Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to > build SAAS. This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will > ensure that the vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project > to the foundation. Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, > logos, and other elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud. > > > > > > > > We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues. > > > > > > > > Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred > to other incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that > may change depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be > patient in participating in incubation. > > > > > > > > Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe > it’s acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules. > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote: > > > > > I have more questions around this project. > > > > > > > > > > I saw from the proposal, https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is > the > > > > > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs > go? > > > > > > > > > > With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and > > > > > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, > page > > > > > style, etc. > > > > > Who will be the owner of those pages? > > > > > From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code > > > > > base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally > fine > > > > > with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts > in > > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Hi Twice, we have removed the existing advertising in repo and website. Please see https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/. On 2024/03/19 01:59:37 Twice Pragma wrote: > Sorry but just for curious, I wonder how you will handle the existing > advertising for and only for TanCloud in Hertzbeat repo and website (e.g. in > README.md)? > > Best, > Twice > > > From: Chao Gong > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 1:07:40 AM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat > > Thanks for your reminder and suggestion. > > > > Best wishes, > Tom > > On 2024/03/17 15:32:37 Sheng Wu wrote: > > Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could > > make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during > > the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website, > > project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take > > time. > > > > Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you > > have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you > > will face after you donate your company core project to a > > vendor-neutral foundation. > > Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's > > financial good. The better your project is incubated in the > > foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project. > > Think deeply. > > Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a > > reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a > > startup. > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道： > > > > > > > > Hi Sheng, > > > > > > The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains > > > documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code, > > > frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single > > > repository. > > > > > > As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as Hertzbeat. We > > > will rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish it from > > > Hertzbeat. > > > > > > Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to build > > > SAAS. This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will ensure > > > that the vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project to > > > the foundation. Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, > > > logos, and other elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud. > > > > > > We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues. > > > > > > Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred to > > > other incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that > > > may change depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be > > > patient in participating in incubation. > > > > > > Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe it’s > > > acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Tom > > > > > > On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote: > > > > I have more questions around this project. > > > > > > > > I saw from the proposal, https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is the > > > > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs go? > > > > > > > > With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and > > > > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, page > > > > style, etc. > > > > Who will be the owner of those pages? > > > > From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code > > > > base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally fine > > > > with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts in > > > > the future. > > > > But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? What > > > > is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company > > > > rebuild their home page before the donation? > > > > > > > > I also read the introduction page(in Chinese), > > > > https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1 > > > > It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat. > > > > Will the company OK to say
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Hi Francis, Thank you very much for reaching out and offering to mentor our project. It's truly an honor to receive support from someone as experienced and knowledgeable as yourself. I have updated the proposal to include your name in the mentor list. Once again, thank you for your willingness to support our project. We look forward to working with you closely. -- Zhang Yonglun Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere Francis Chuang 于2024年3月25日周一 12:06写道： > > Hello Yonglun, > > My name is Francis Chuang. I am on the PMC of Apache Calcite and have > been involved with the project for many years. > > I mostly write code in Go and am very interested in APM and > OpenTelemetry. I have been following this thread and the discussion of > your proposal and it looks quite interesting and compelling. > > I am happy to be a mentor for your project, if you're interested. > > Best, > Francis > > On 25/03/2024 3:00 pm, Zhang Yonglun wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Thank you for everyone's feedback and constructive suggestions. Your > > insights are invaluable and will guide our continuous improvement > > efforts. > > > > Additionally, we now have three mentors supporting our initiatives. > > However, we're still seeking one more mentor to join us. If someone is > > interested, we would greatly appreciate your assistance. > > > > Thank you all for your patience and support. > > > > -- > > > > Zhang Yonglun > > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere > > > > Zhang Yonglun 于2024年3月16日周六 21:22写道： > >> > >> Hi IPMC members, > >> > >> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat. > >> > >> HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring > >> system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance > >> clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring > >> and status page building capabilities. > >> > >> Here is the proposal - > >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal > >> > >> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project > >> through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean > >> (jmcl...@apache.org). > >> > >> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator. > >> > >> [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Zhang Yonglun > >> Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Hello Yonglun, My name is Francis Chuang. I am on the PMC of Apache Calcite and have been involved with the project for many years. I mostly write code in Go and am very interested in APM and OpenTelemetry. I have been following this thread and the discussion of your proposal and it looks quite interesting and compelling. I am happy to be a mentor for your project, if you're interested. Best, Francis On 25/03/2024 3:00 pm, Zhang Yonglun wrote: Hi, Thank you for everyone's feedback and constructive suggestions. Your insights are invaluable and will guide our continuous improvement efforts. Additionally, we now have three mentors supporting our initiatives. However, we're still seeking one more mentor to join us. If someone is interested, we would greatly appreciate your assistance. Thank you all for your patience and support. -- Zhang Yonglun Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere Zhang Yonglun 于2024年3月16日周六 21:22写道： Hi IPMC members, I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat. HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring and status page building capabilities. Here is the proposal - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean (jmcl...@apache.org). We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator. [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ -- Zhang Yonglun Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Hi, Thank you for everyone's feedback and constructive suggestions. Your insights are invaluable and will guide our continuous improvement efforts. Additionally, we now have three mentors supporting our initiatives. However, we're still seeking one more mentor to join us. If someone is interested, we would greatly appreciate your assistance. Thank you all for your patience and support. -- Zhang Yonglun Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere Zhang Yonglun 于2024年3月16日周六 21:22写道： > > Hi IPMC members, > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat. > > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring > and status page building capabilities. > > Here is the proposal - > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean > (jmcl...@apache.org). > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator. > > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ > > -- > > Zhang Yonglun > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Hi Twice, Thanks for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat. We will remove the ads, including tancloud, subject to the foundation’s rules. Best wishes, Tom On 2024/03/19 01:59:37 Twice Pragma wrote: > Sorry but just for curious, I wonder how you will handle the existing > advertising for and only for TanCloud in Hertzbeat repo and website (e.g. in > README.md)? > > Best, > Twice > > > From: Chao Gong > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 1:07:40 AM > To: general@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat > > Thanks for your reminder and suggestion. > > > > Best wishes, > Tom > > On 2024/03/17 15:32:37 Sheng Wu wrote: > > Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could > > make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during > > the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website, > > project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take > > time. > > > > Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you > > have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you > > will face after you donate your company core project to a > > vendor-neutral foundation. > > Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's > > financial good. The better your project is incubated in the > > foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project. > > Think deeply. > > Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a > > reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a > > startup. > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道： > > > > > > > > Hi Sheng, > > > > > > The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains > > > documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code, > > > frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single > > > repository. > > > > > > As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as Hertzbeat. We > > > will rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish it from > > > Hertzbeat. > > > > > > Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to build > > > SAAS. This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will ensure > > > that the vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project to > > > the foundation. Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, > > > logos, and other elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud. > > > > > > We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues. > > > > > > Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred to > > > other incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that > > > may change depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be > > > patient in participating in incubation. > > > > > > Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe it’s > > > acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > Tom > > > > > > On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote: > > > > I have more questions around this project. > > > > > > > > I saw from the proposal, https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is the > > > > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs go? > > > > > > > > With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and > > > > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, page > > > > style, etc. > > > > Who will be the owner of those pages? > > > > From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code > > > > base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally fine > > > > with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts in > > > > the future. > > > > But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? What > > > > is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company > > > > rebuild their home page before the donation? > > > > > > > > I also read the introduction page(in Chinese), > > > > https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1 > > > > It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat. > > > > Will the company OK to
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Sorry but just for curious, I wonder how you will handle the existing advertising for and only for TanCloud in Hertzbeat repo and website (e.g. in README.md)? Best, Twice From: Chao Gong Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 1:07:40 AM To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat Thanks for your reminder and suggestion. Best wishes, Tom On 2024/03/17 15:32:37 Sheng Wu wrote: > Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could > make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during > the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website, > project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take > time. > > Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you > have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you > will face after you donate your company core project to a > vendor-neutral foundation. > Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's > financial good. The better your project is incubated in the > foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project. > Think deeply. > Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a > reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a > startup. > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道： > > > > > Hi Sheng, > > > > The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains > > documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code, > > frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single > > repository. > > > > As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as Hertzbeat. We > > will rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish it from > > Hertzbeat. > > > > Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to build SAAS. > > This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will ensure that > > the vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project to the > > foundation. Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, logos, > > and other elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud. > > > > We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues. > > > > Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred to > > other incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that may > > change depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be > > patient in participating in incubation. > > > > Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe it’s > > acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules. > > > > Best wishes, > > Tom > > > > On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote: > > > I have more questions around this project. > > > > > > I saw from the proposal, https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is the > > > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs go? > > > > > > With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and > > > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, page > > > style, etc. > > > Who will be the owner of those pages? > > > From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code > > > base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally fine > > > with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts in > > > the future. > > > But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? What > > > is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company > > > rebuild their home page before the donation? > > > > > > I also read the introduction page(in Chinese), > > > https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1 > > > It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat. > > > Will the company OK to say we are only a kind of cloud service powered > > > by Apache HertzBeat(Incubating)? This also means, other entities could > > > use Apache HertzBeat to build the SAAS too once the donation is done, > > > and even used the same statement `powered by Apache HertzBeat` like > > > TanCloud do. > > > > > > Project mentors, and initial committers, how many of you are in the > > > company, that could you confirm all above are granted by the company' > > > legal part? > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > Sheng Wu 于2024年3月17日周日
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Thanks for your reminder and suggestion. Best wishes, Tom On 2024/03/17 15:32:37 Sheng Wu wrote: > Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could > make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during > the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website, > project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take > time. > > Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you > have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you > will face after you donate your company core project to a > vendor-neutral foundation. > Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's > financial good. The better your project is incubated in the > foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project. > Think deeply. > Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a > reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a > startup. > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道： > > > > > Hi Sheng, > > > > The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains > > documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code, > > frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single > > repository. > > > > As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as Hertzbeat. We > > will rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish it from > > Hertzbeat. > > > > Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to build SAAS. > > This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will ensure that > > the vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project to the > > foundation. Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, logos, > > and other elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud. > > > > We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues. > > > > Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred to > > other incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that may > > change depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be > > patient in participating in incubation. > > > > Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe it’s > > acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules. > > > > Best wishes, > > Tom > > > > On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote: > > > I have more questions around this project. > > > > > > I saw from the proposal, https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is the > > > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs go? > > > > > > With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and > > > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, page > > > style, etc. > > > Who will be the owner of those pages? > > > From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code > > > base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally fine > > > with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts in > > > the future. > > > But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? What > > > is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company > > > rebuild their home page before the donation? > > > > > > I also read the introduction page(in Chinese), > > > https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1 > > > It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat. > > > Will the company OK to say we are only a kind of cloud service powered > > > by Apache HertzBeat(Incubating)? This also means, other entities could > > > use Apache HertzBeat to build the SAAS too once the donation is done, > > > and even used the same statement `powered by Apache HertzBeat` like > > > TanCloud do. > > > > > > Project mentors, and initial committers, how many of you are in the > > > company, that could you confirm all above are granted by the company' > > > legal part? > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > Sheng Wu 于2024年3月17日周日 18:34写道： > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日 周日16:59写道： > > > >> > > > >> Hi Sheng, Xuanwo, > > > >> > > > >> Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat. > > > >> > > > >> Sorry for any confusion caused, we have updated the proposal to > > > >> indicate that TanCloud will sign SGA. Dromara is an open source > > > >> community organized by a group of open source enthusiasts, and it does > > > >> not own the copyright of projects. > > > >> > > > >> We will clean up related copyright issues and documents according to > > > >> the requirements of the incubator. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please make sure at least vendor trademark, platforms are not included. > > > > The foundation is vendor neutral. > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Best wishes, > > > >> Tom > > > >> > > > >> On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote: > > > >> > Hi IPMC members, > > > >> > > > > >> > I would
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Thanks for the explanation. It is clear, and I am good as you could make the final call. There will be a lot of issues to deal with during the incubating, just recommend removing vendor links from the website, project readme, and document as much as possible. I know it will take time. Wearing the out-of-ASF hat, only as a friendly reminder, make sure you have talked to enough people knowing best about the challenges you will face after you donate your company core project to a vendor-neutral foundation. Foundation projects are for the public good, not for your company's financial good. The better your project is incubated in the foundation, the less controllability you will have for the project. Think deeply. Note, that this is irrelevant to the incubating proposal, it is just a reminder from a person who founded a project and is working on a startup. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日周日 23:15写道： > > Hi Sheng, > > The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains > documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code, > frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single > repository. > > As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as Hertzbeat. We will > rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish it from Hertzbeat. > > Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to build SAAS. > This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will ensure that the > vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project to the foundation. > Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, logos, and other > elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud. > > We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues. > > Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred to other > incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that may change > depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be patient in > participating in incubation. > > Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe it’s > acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules. > > Best wishes, > Tom > > On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote: > > I have more questions around this project. > > > > I saw from the proposal, https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is the > > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs go? > > > > With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and > > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, page > > style, etc. > > Who will be the owner of those pages? > > From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code > > base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally fine > > with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts in > > the future. > > But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? What > > is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company > > rebuild their home page before the donation? > > > > I also read the introduction page(in Chinese), > > https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1 > > It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat. > > Will the company OK to say we are only a kind of cloud service powered > > by Apache HertzBeat(Incubating)? This also means, other entities could > > use Apache HertzBeat to build the SAAS too once the donation is done, > > and even used the same statement `powered by Apache HertzBeat` like > > TanCloud do. > > > > Project mentors, and initial committers, how many of you are in the > > company, that could you confirm all above are granted by the company' > > legal part? > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > Sheng Wu 于2024年3月17日周日 18:34写道： > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日 周日16:59写道： > > >> > > >> Hi Sheng, Xuanwo, > > >> > > >> Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat. > > >> > > >> Sorry for any confusion caused, we have updated the proposal to indicate > > >> that TanCloud will sign SGA. Dromara is an open source community > > >> organized by a group of open source enthusiasts, and it does not own the > > >> copyright of projects. > > >> > > >> We will clean up related copyright issues and documents according to the > > >> requirements of the incubator. > > > > > > > > > Please make sure at least vendor trademark, platforms are not included. > > > The foundation is vendor neutral. > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> Best wishes, > > >> Tom > > >> > > >> On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote: > > >> > Hi IPMC members, > > >> > > > >> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat. > > >> > > > >> > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring > > >> > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance > > >> > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring > > >> > and status page building capabilities.
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Hi Sheng, The https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat code repository contains documentation code in the “home” directory. All our open-source code, frontend, backend, and official website are housed within this single repository. As you can see, the Tancloud website is nearly the same as Hertzbeat. We will rebuild Tancloud’s official website later to distinguish it from Hertzbeat. Tancloud is a company registered by the founder of Hertzbeat to build SAAS. This company has only one employee, which is myself. We will ensure that the vendor is completely okay with donating the entire project to the foundation. Additionally, we will distinguish between the brands, logos, and other elements of Hertzbeat and Tancloud. We will sign an SGA and address any related copyright issues. Regarding the setup of the incubation time of duration, we referred to other incubation projects. However, this is an estimated timeframe that may change depending on the actual progress of the incubation. We will be patient in participating in incubation. Regarding other entities using Hertzbeat to build SAAS, we believe it’s acceptable, subject to the foundation’s rules. Best wishes, Tom On 2024/03/17 12:34:28 Sheng Wu wrote: > I have more questions around this project. > > I saw from the proposal, https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is the > only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs go? > > With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and > https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, page > style, etc. > Who will be the owner of those pages? > From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code > base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally fine > with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts in > the future. > But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? What > is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company > rebuild their home page before the donation? > > I also read the introduction page(in Chinese), > https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1 > It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat. > Will the company OK to say we are only a kind of cloud service powered > by Apache HertzBeat(Incubating)? This also means, other entities could > use Apache HertzBeat to build the SAAS too once the donation is done, > and even used the same statement `powered by Apache HertzBeat` like > TanCloud do. > > Project mentors, and initial committers, how many of you are in the > company, that could you confirm all above are granted by the company' > legal part? > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > Sheng Wu 于2024年3月17日周日 18:34写道： > > > > > > > > > > Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日 周日16:59写道： > >> > >> Hi Sheng, Xuanwo, > >> > >> Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat. > >> > >> Sorry for any confusion caused, we have updated the proposal to indicate > >> that TanCloud will sign SGA. Dromara is an open source community organized > >> by a group of open source enthusiasts, and it does not own the copyright > >> of projects. > >> > >> We will clean up related copyright issues and documents according to the > >> requirements of the incubator. > > > > > > Please make sure at least vendor trademark, platforms are not included. The > > foundation is vendor neutral. > > > >> > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> Tom > >> > >> On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote: > >> > Hi IPMC members, > >> > > >> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat. > >> > > >> > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring > >> > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance > >> > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring > >> > and status page building capabilities. > >> > > >> > Here is the proposal - > >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal > >> > > >> > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the > >> > project > >> > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean > >> > (jmcl...@apache.org). > >> > > >> > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator. > >> > > >> > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ > >> > > >> > -- > >> > > >> > Zhang Yonglun > >> > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere > >> > > >> > - > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > > >> > > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail:
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
I have more questions around this project. I saw from the proposal, https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat is the only code repository included, no other part. Then where the docs go? With docs, I can see https://tancloud.cn/ and https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ are using nearly the same content, page style, etc. Who will be the owner of those pages? >From what I understand, the simple SGA for this one repository(code base) is not enough. You need to make sure that vendor is totally fine with donating the whole thing to the foundation to avoid conflicts in the future. But this is the homepage of the company, are they OK with this? What is the plan for these existing pages and the name? Will the company rebuild their home page before the donation? I also read the introduction page(in Chinese), https://support.qq.com/products/379369/team#story-1 It mentioned, TanCloud is actually the SAAS version of HertzBeat. Will the company OK to say we are only a kind of cloud service powered by Apache HertzBeat(Incubating)? This also means, other entities could use Apache HertzBeat to build the SAAS too once the donation is done, and even used the same statement `powered by Apache HertzBeat` like TanCloud do. Project mentors, and initial committers, how many of you are in the company, that could you confirm all above are granted by the company' legal part? Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 Sheng Wu 于2024年3月17日周日 18:34写道： > > > > > Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日 周日16:59写道： >> >> Hi Sheng, Xuanwo, >> >> Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat. >> >> Sorry for any confusion caused, we have updated the proposal to indicate >> that TanCloud will sign SGA. Dromara is an open source community organized >> by a group of open source enthusiasts, and it does not own the copyright of >> projects. >> >> We will clean up related copyright issues and documents according to the >> requirements of the incubator. > > > Please make sure at least vendor trademark, platforms are not included. The > foundation is vendor neutral. > >> >> >> Best wishes, >> Tom >> >> On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote: >> > Hi IPMC members, >> > >> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat. >> > >> > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring >> > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance >> > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring >> > and status page building capabilities. >> > >> > Here is the proposal - >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal >> > >> > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project >> > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean >> > (jmcl...@apache.org). >> > >> > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator. >> > >> > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Zhang Yonglun >> > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > >> > >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日 周日16:59写道： > Hi Sheng, Xuanwo, > > Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat. > > Sorry for any confusion caused, we have updated the proposal to indicate > that TanCloud will sign SGA. Dromara is an open source community organized > by a group of open source enthusiasts, and it does not own the copyright of > projects. > > We will clean up related copyright issues and documents according to the > requirements of the incubator. Please make sure at least vendor trademark, platforms are not included. The foundation is vendor neutral. > > Best wishes, > Tom > > On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote: > > Hi IPMC members, > > > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat. > > > > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring > > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance > > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring > > and status page building capabilities. > > > > Here is the proposal - > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal > > > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the > project > > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean > > (jmcl...@apache.org). > > > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator. > > > > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ > > > > -- > > > > Zhang Yonglun > > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
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We also need a update about salaried developers and current deserve status as this is mostly a vendor project, we hope the project owners could provide honest status. You don't need to worry about we don't have many developers, that is the purpose of the incubating. And I want to ask, why do you set up the period of estimated incubating is 1 year. 1 year is a short time, and most of you are not that experienced about ASF. I would like to ask you to be patient and learn slowly. Sheng Wu 吴晟 Apache SkyWalking Twitter, wusheng1108 Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日 周日16:59写道： > Hi Sheng, Xuanwo, > > Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat. > > Sorry for any confusion caused, we have updated the proposal to indicate > that TanCloud will sign SGA. Dromara is an open source community organized > by a group of open source enthusiasts, and it does not own the copyright of > projects. > > We will clean up related copyright issues and documents according to the > requirements of the incubator. > > Best wishes, > Tom > > On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote: > > Hi IPMC members, > > > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat. > > > > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring > > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance > > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring > > and status page building capabilities. > > > > Here is the proposal - > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal > > > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the > project > > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean > > (jmcl...@apache.org). > > > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator. > > > > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ > > > > -- > > > > Zhang Yonglun > > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Hi Sheng, Xuanwo, Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on HertzBeat. Sorry for any confusion caused, we have updated the proposal to indicate that TanCloud will sign SGA. Dromara is an open source community organized by a group of open source enthusiasts, and it does not own the copyright of projects. We will clean up related copyright issues and documents according to the requirements of the incubator. Best wishes, Tom On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote: > Hi IPMC members, > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat. > > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring > and status page building capabilities. > > Here is the proposal - > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean > (jmcl...@apache.org). > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator. > > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ > > -- > > Zhang Yonglun > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
I have the similiar questions as Sheng Wu. Based on the page at https://gitee.com/dromara: > 所有捐赠给 Dromara 社区的项目均保留原有项目的所有权利及商业化行为 which can translated as: > All projects donated to the Dromara community retain all rights and > commercialization of the original project. I'm unsure about the copyright details inside, so I'd like to inquire: Will TanCloud submit a SGA or CCLA for this project? Is this company ready for this? On Sun, Mar 17, 2024, at 12:04, Sheng Wu wrote: > I did a simple review on the docs page of this project. > > The documents include a lot of parts leading user for TanCloud Inc. > cloud service and their social connection platforms. > Such as > - Vendor Cloud SAAS, https://console.tancloud.cn/passport/login > - https://console.tancloud.cn/ > - https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat?tab=readme-ov-file#-join-discussion > - Bilibili page is owned by an individual. > > Is this company good to remove all these information and transfer the > ownership to the foundation and trademark? > > I can see the company owned this project, as LICENSE/NOTICE says so > from https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat/blob/master/NOTICE >> Copyright https://www.hertzbeat.com https://www.tancloud.cn All Rights >> Reserved. > > And in the proposal, it never mentioned there is developers paid by > TanCloud, is that correct? I doubt on this. > > What is the relationship between dromara org, TanCloud, and the project? > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日周日 10:31写道： >> >> Hi Fanning, Dave >> >> I am tom from hertzbeat community. >> >> Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on hertzbeat. >> >> We have do a PODLINGNAMESEARCH and there are no other projects discovered >> using this name hertzbeat through patent inquiry. >> >> Regarding the car rental company brand Hertz you mentioned, we think there >> is a clear difference between hertz and hertzbeat. We can find hundreds of >> trademarks containing hertz. Hertz is not only a car rental company brand, >> but also a common noun - the SI unit of frequency >> >> We check hertzbeat has not been registered as a trademark in class 9. The >> hertz trademark has 38 results in class 9, such as hertz, hertzEagle, >> hertzstuck, nuhertz, TeraHertz+ and so on. These trademarks related to Hertz >> do not conflict with each other, so why not hertzbeat? >> >> For this, we can pay more attention to using the hertzbeat brand as a whole >> in future documents and publicity, distinguish it from hertz, and clearly >> distinguish it in materials such as logos. >> >> We have been using this name for nearly three years, and it is widely known >> and loved by the community and users. We hope to keep this name if possible. >> Thanks! >> >> Best wishes, >> Tom >> >> On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote: >> > Hi IPMC members, >> > >> > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat. >> > >> > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring >> > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance >> > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring >> > and status page building capabilities. >> > >> > Here is the proposal - >> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal >> > >> > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project >> > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean >> > (jmcl...@apache.org). >> > >> > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator. >> > >> > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Zhang Yonglun >> > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere >> > >> > - >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > >> > >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- Xuanwo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
I did a simple review on the docs page of this project. The documents include a lot of parts leading user for TanCloud Inc. cloud service and their social connection platforms. Such as - Vendor Cloud SAAS, https://console.tancloud.cn/passport/login - https://console.tancloud.cn/ - https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat?tab=readme-ov-file#-join-discussion - Bilibili page is owned by an individual. Is this company good to remove all these information and transfer the ownership to the foundation and trademark? I can see the company owned this project, as LICENSE/NOTICE says so from https://github.com/dromara/hertzbeat/blob/master/NOTICE > Copyright https://www.hertzbeat.com https://www.tancloud.cn All Rights > Reserved. And in the proposal, it never mentioned there is developers paid by TanCloud, is that correct? I doubt on this. What is the relationship between dromara org, TanCloud, and the project? Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 Chao Gong 于2024年3月17日周日 10:31写道： > > Hi Fanning, Dave > > I am tom from hertzbeat community. > > Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on hertzbeat. > > We have do a PODLINGNAMESEARCH and there are no other projects discovered > using this name hertzbeat through patent inquiry. > > Regarding the car rental company brand Hertz you mentioned, we think there is > a clear difference between hertz and hertzbeat. We can find hundreds of > trademarks containing hertz. Hertz is not only a car rental company brand, > but also a common noun - the SI unit of frequency > > We check hertzbeat has not been registered as a trademark in class 9. The > hertz trademark has 38 results in class 9, such as hertz, hertzEagle, > hertzstuck, nuhertz, TeraHertz+ and so on. These trademarks related to Hertz > do not conflict with each other, so why not hertzbeat? > > For this, we can pay more attention to using the hertzbeat brand as a whole > in future documents and publicity, distinguish it from hertz, and clearly > distinguish it in materials such as logos. > > We have been using this name for nearly three years, and it is widely known > and loved by the community and users. We hope to keep this name if possible. > Thanks! > > Best wishes, > Tom > > On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote: > > Hi IPMC members, > > > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat. > > > > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring > > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance > > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring > > and status page building capabilities. > > > > Here is the proposal - > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal > > > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project > > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean > > (jmcl...@apache.org). > > > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator. > > > > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ > > > > -- > > > > Zhang Yonglun > > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Hi Fanning, Dave I am tom from hertzbeat community. Thank you very much for your attention and feedback on hertzbeat. We have do a PODLINGNAMESEARCH and there are no other projects discovered using this name hertzbeat through patent inquiry. Regarding the car rental company brand Hertz you mentioned, we think there is a clear difference between hertz and hertzbeat. We can find hundreds of trademarks containing hertz. Hertz is not only a car rental company brand, but also a common noun - the SI unit of frequency We check hertzbeat has not been registered as a trademark in class 9. The hertz trademark has 38 results in class 9, such as hertz, hertzEagle, hertzstuck, nuhertz, TeraHertz+ and so on. These trademarks related to Hertz do not conflict with each other, so why not hertzbeat? For this, we can pay more attention to using the hertzbeat brand as a whole in future documents and publicity, distinguish it from hertz, and clearly distinguish it in materials such as logos. We have been using this name for nearly three years, and it is widely known and loved by the community and users. We hope to keep this name if possible. Thanks! Best wishes, Tom On 2024/03/16 13:22:11 Zhang Yonglun wrote: > Hi IPMC members, > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat. > > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring > and status page building capabilities. > > Here is the proposal - > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean > (jmcl...@apache.org). > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator. > > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ > > -- > > Zhang Yonglun > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Hi - It’s not a branding conflict unless Hertz has a trademark in class 9. The champion or mentors could do a PODLINGNAMESEARCH and see what VP, Brand thinks. After all hertz is a well known unit of measure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz Best, Dave > On Mar 16, 2024, at 7:51 AM, PJ Fanning wrote: > > Would there be any chance that you could reconsider the name? Hertz is > a very well known international car rental brand. > > On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 at 14:24, Zhang Yonglun wrote: >> >> Hi IPMC members, >> >> I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat. >> >> HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring >> system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance >> clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring >> and status page building capabilities. >> >> Here is the proposal - >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal >> >> I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project >> through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean >> (jmcl...@apache.org). >> >> We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator. >> >> [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ >> >> -- >> >> Zhang Yonglun >> Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Incubating Proposal for HertzBeat
Would there be any chance that you could reconsider the name? Hertz is a very well known international car rental brand. On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 at 14:24, Zhang Yonglun wrote: > > Hi IPMC members, > > I would like to propose a new project to the ASF incubator - HertzBeat. > > HertzBeat[1] is an easy-to-use, open source, real-time monitoring > system. It features an agentless architecture, high-performance > clustering, Prometheus compatibility, and powerful custom monitoring > and status page building capabilities. > > Here is the proposal - > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/HertzBeatProposal > > I would be the Champion of the project. I will mentor and help the project > through the incubator with Yu Xiao [xia...@apache.org], Justin Mclean > (jmcl...@apache.org). > > We are open to hearing the feedback from the incubator. > > [1] https://hertzbeat.dromara.org/ > > -- > > Zhang Yonglun > Apache ShenYu & ShardingSphere > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
