Re: OpenOffice or OpenOffice.org
There is a pending trademark application for OpenOffice by Tightrope Interactive so I am not sure that Apache OpenOffice would be acceptable unless the pending application is turned down. Ralph On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Hi I want to know if there is any formal clearance on the way OpenOffice.org ought to be reffered as. Since the adquisition of Sun by Oracle, they start re-inciting misquotations of OpenOffice.org as OpenOffice even later they modified StarOffice as Oracle Open Office As OpenOffice.org was transfered to Apache, the proposal is quoted as Apache OpenOffice. And now new mailing lists are generated as oo instead of ooo. I understand there could be missconception as the beginning but lacking to address these issues they could become more structural as time goes by (ie. wikipage is easy to change, a mailing list is not as easy). I would want some clarification on this topic so that the apache people could make a decision. Also for reasons regarding trademark is important to avoid legal issues as time goes by. -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice or OpenOffice.org
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.comwrote: There is a pending trademark application for OpenOffice by Tightrope Interactive so I am not sure that Apache OpenOffice would be acceptable unless the pending application is turned down. I will still enoucrage that play safe according to OOo guidelines. Some information here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Logo/License and http://about.openoffice.org/index.html#logo OpenOffice.org holds all rights to be used, so why not use it like that? Ralph On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Hi I want to know if there is any formal clearance on the way OpenOffice.org ought to be reffered as. Since the adquisition of Sun by Oracle, they start re-inciting misquotations of OpenOffice.org as OpenOffice even later they modified StarOffice as Oracle Open Office As OpenOffice.org was transfered to Apache, the proposal is quoted as Apache OpenOffice. And now new mailing lists are generated as oo instead of ooo. I understand there could be missconception as the beginning but lacking to address these issues they could become more structural as time goes by (ie. wikipage is easy to change, a mailing list is not as easy). I would want some clarification on this topic so that the apache people could make a decision. Also for reasons regarding trademark is important to avoid legal issues as time goes by. -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: OpenOffice or OpenOffice.org
On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: Hi I want to know if there is any formal clearance on the way OpenOffice.org ought to be reffered as. Since the adquisition of Sun by Oracle, they start re-inciting misquotations of OpenOffice.org as OpenOffice even later they modified StarOffice as Oracle Open Office As OpenOffice.org was transfered to Apache, the proposal is quoted as Apache OpenOffice. And now new mailing lists are generated as oo instead of ooo. I understand there could be missconception as the beginning but lacking to address these issues they could become more structural as time goes by (ie. wikipage is easy to change, a mailing list is not as easy). I would want some clarification on this topic so that the apache people could make a decision. Also for reasons regarding trademark is important to avoid legal issues as time goes by. For reference, the OpenOffice trademark application can be found at http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serialentry=85298190 Ralph
Re: OpenOffice or OpenOffice.org
On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.comwrote: There is a pending trademark application for OpenOffice by Tightrope Interactive so I am not sure that Apache OpenOffice would be acceptable unless the pending application is turned down. Actually that trademark application is of deep concern to the community and it would be highly desirable for Apache to either ask Oracle to challenge it or to rapidly transfer the trademarks from Oracle and mount a challenge. S.
Re: OpenOffice or OpenOffice.org
On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.comwrote: There is a pending trademark application for OpenOffice by Tightrope Interactive so I am not sure that Apache OpenOffice would be acceptable unless the pending application is turned down. I will still enoucrage that play safe according to OOo guidelines. Some information here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Logo/License and http://about.openoffice.org/index.html#logo OpenOffice.org holds all rights to be used, so why not use it like that? Sorry, I misread your message. I don't disagree with this. However, Apache OpenOffice.org is a bit of a mouthful. Ralph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice or OpenOffice.org
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.comwrote: On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: There is a pending trademark application for OpenOffice by Tightrope Interactive so I am not sure that Apache OpenOffice would be acceptable unless the pending application is turned down. I will still enoucrage that play safe according to OOo guidelines. Some information here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Logo/License and http://about.openoffice.org/index.html#logo OpenOffice.org holds all rights to be used, so why not use it like that? Sorry, I misread your message. I don't disagree with this. However, Apache OpenOffice.org is a bit of a mouthful. Well the actual request is for the mailing list to be added an extra 'o' I doubt many people will pronouce 'ooo-user' or 'oo-user'. I just have an issue when is registered on the systems as 'oo' Ralph - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: OpenOffice or OpenOffice.org
On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.comwrote: On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: There is a pending trademark application for OpenOffice by Tightrope Interactive so I am not sure that Apache OpenOffice would be acceptable unless the pending application is turned down. I will still enoucrage that play safe according to OOo guidelines. Some information here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Logo/License and http://about.openoffice.org/index.html#logo OpenOffice.org holds all rights to be used, so why not use it like that? Sorry, I misread your message. I don't disagree with this. However, Apache OpenOffice.org is a bit of a mouthful. Well the actual request is for the mailing list to be added an extra 'o' I doubt many people will pronouce 'ooo-user' or 'oo-user'. I just have an issue when is registered on the systems as 'oo' Got it. Feel free to update the wiki. If someone disagrees they will change it to something else. Ralph
Re: OpenOffice or OpenOffice.org
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:13 PM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.comwrote: There is a pending trademark application for OpenOffice by Tightrope Interactive so I am not sure that Apache OpenOffice would be acceptable unless the pending application is turned down. Actually that trademark application is of deep concern to the community and it would be highly desirable for Apache to either ask Oracle to challenge it or to rapidly transfer the trademarks from Oracle and mount a challenge. This would be one of the first tasks of the PPMC, if and when one gets established. The VP of Brand Management, one or more actual attorneys, myself, and a number of others will assist. S. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice or OpenOffice.org
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.comwrote: On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:19 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Ralph Goers ralph.go...@dslextreme.com wrote: There is a pending trademark application for OpenOffice by Tightrope Interactive so I am not sure that Apache OpenOffice would be acceptable unless the pending application is turned down. I will still enoucrage that play safe according to OOo guidelines. Some information here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Art/Logo/License and http://about.openoffice.org/index.html#logo OpenOffice.org holds all rights to be used, so why not use it like that? Sorry, I misread your message. I don't disagree with this. However, Apache OpenOffice.org is a bit of a mouthful. Well the actual request is for the mailing list to be added an extra 'o' I doubt many people will pronouce 'ooo-user' or 'oo-user'. I just have an issue when is registered on the systems as 'oo' Got it. Feel free to update the wiki. If someone disagrees they will change it to something else. Ralph Done, notice a similar scenario with JIRA 'code'. I think the best however is to educate the Apache people about the trademark and guidelines. I have the feeling none of the Apache people have read the OOo site regarding this topic. -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
Re: OpenOffice or OpenOffice.org
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org wrote: I have the feeling none of the Apache people have read the OOo site regarding this topic. I see your name on OpenOfficeProposal. That means that you will be one of the people we will be depending on to help. That's how things work around here. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice or OpenOffice.org
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote: On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Alexandro Colorado j...@openoffice.org wrote: I have the feeling none of the Apache people have read the OOo site regarding this topic. I see your name on OpenOfficeProposal. That means that you will be one of the people we will be depending on to help. That's how things work around here. yes I woud like to think this is my way of helping. I would re-invite apache people to lurk around the OOo site specially the governability documentation structure of projects and guidelines. Best think to start is going to the main site and choosing 'about'. That should guide you to the more structural parts of OpenOffice.org. For a more specific things, the wiki might also carry information which usually is more up to date since is easier to maintain. - Sam Ruby - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org -- *Alexandro Colorado* *OpenOffice.org* Español http://es.openoffice.org
