RE: Project idea
I think it's time for it as well. Oracle, DB2, Sybase are planning on cashing in even bigger now. The .com crazy is over and people are going to start to develop and market information rich websites and services that reach out to cell phones/PDA's etc. There hasn't been much innovation going on in the Relational DB world. It'd be nice to see an Open Source project catch up, innovate, and outperform the Big Name DB vendors. An Open Source java DB by a trusted Open Source Name (Apache) would allow anyone to have a high end database solution without being a big money making enterprise. Obviously I think this is a good idea. Why don't we create a list for Open Source DB's to evaluate? Also some criteria. I've already mentioned. 1. Object or Object/Relational DB. 2. Support for SQL/OQL 3. Support for the SUN JDO spec. -Original Message- From: David Duddleston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 11:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Project idea There is a pretty good Java SQL Relational DB called Mckoi, but the darn thing is GPL and I have sent about 6 emails trying to get them to change the license to an ASL or equivalent, but I have had no luck. They won't even change to LGPL. hsql Database on sourceforge has a good license and works well for small projects, but I don't know if I would trust it for anything important. Hopefully it will pick up some momentum. I know Jetspeed (a Jakarta project) uses Hypersonic SQL (now hsql Database), or at least used it the last time I check which was a long time ago. I would love to see a solid Java RDBMS under a business friendly license. Maybe someday ;-) -david > -Original Message- > From: Tal Dayan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 5:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Project idea > > > > Does Jakarta has anything close to an embedded pure Java > relational data base ? > > If not, a project like that will be a great > addition to the Jakarta family. > > > Tal > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Project idea
There is a pretty good Java SQL Relational DB called Mckoi, but the darn thing is GPL and I have sent about 6 emails trying to get them to change the license to an ASL or equivalent, but I have had no luck. They won't even change to LGPL. hsql Database on sourceforge has a good license and works well for small projects, but I don't know if I would trust it for anything important. Hopefully it will pick up some momentum. I know Jetspeed (a Jakarta project) uses Hypersonic SQL (now hsql Database), or at least used it the last time I check which was a long time ago. I would love to see a solid Java RDBMS under a business friendly license. Maybe someday ;-) -david > -Original Message- > From: Tal Dayan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 5:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Project idea > > > > Does Jakarta has anything close to an embedded pure Java > relational data base ? > > If not, a project like that will be a great > addition to the Jakarta family. > > > Tal > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Project idea
Cory L Hubert wrote: > > Why not. A relational/ohject database. One that may be queried with > standard SQL and OQL. It should probably work with the up and coming Sun > Microsystems JDO spec. > > -Original Message- > From: Tal Dayan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 5:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Project idea > > Does Jakarta has anything close to an embedded pure Java > relational data base ? > > If not, a project like that will be a great > addition to the Jakarta family. > > Tal > If you are looking for good database engines you can check: HypersonicSQL: http://sourceforge.net/projects/hsql/ ozone: http://www.ozone-db.org I'm not sure how the current project teams would feel about bringing them under Apache. I don't even know what the process is to even try and find out. So that's about all the help I can offer. /mike -- ** Mike Dougherty -- Java Software Engineer ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Project idea
Why not. A relational/ohject database. One that may be queried with standard SQL and OQL. It should probably work with the up and coming Sun Microsystems JDO spec. -Original Message- From: Tal Dayan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 5:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Project idea Does Jakarta has anything close to an embedded pure Java relational data base ? If not, a project like that will be a great addition to the Jakarta family. Tal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Project idea
Does Jakarta has anything close to an embedded pure Java relational data base ? If not, a project like that will be a great addition to the Jakarta family. Tal - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lucene acceptance in Jakarta
+1 (back at home recovering from J1). Craig On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Ted Husted wrote: > Was there a post with a [VOTE] header? > > +1 > > I think Craig and Geir are tied up with Java One this week. > > Jon Stevens wrote: > > > > Re: Lucene being added as a Jakarta Project. > > > > 5 of 10 (not counting Duncan) of the PMC members voted +1. The rest haven't > > voted (shame on you). Can I please get the rest of the people to cast a > > vote? > > > > thanks, > > > > -jon > > > > +1 > > "Daniel F. Savarese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Ceki Gülcü <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Peter Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Jon S. Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > No vote: > > Pierpaolo Fumagalli > > Ted Husted > > Geir Magnusson Jr. > > Craig McClanahan > > Sam Ruby > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Lucene acceptance in Jakarta
Did you consider that we were out of functional email reach? +1 from me - I haven't used it, but it comes highly recommended from a source I trust (besides you...) geir Jon Stevens wrote: > > Re: Lucene being added as a Jakarta Project. > > 5 of 10 (not counting Duncan) of the PMC members voted +1. The rest haven't > voted (shame on you). Can I please get the rest of the people to cast a > vote? > > thanks, > > -jon > > +1 > "Daniel F. Savarese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Jason van Zyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ceki Gülcü <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Peter Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Jon S. Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > No vote: > Pierpaolo Fumagalli > Ted Husted > Geir Magnusson Jr. > Craig McClanahan > Sam Ruby -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ You have a genius for suggesting things I've come a cropper with! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
