Re: doinking around with a logo
On Thu, 14 Jun 2001, bill parducci wrote: > "Pier P. Fumagalli" wrote: > > > > bill parducci at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > >> The little thinghie over the latter "a" is Copyright by Sun... > > > > > > it is LIKE it, but not the same. so i would disagree. > > > > I wouldn't want to even _raise_ the question with Sun... :) > > > > Pier > > well, yeah, there is that. then again, who knows with those guys? you > might find them monitoring the list ready to make you put '(r)' every > time you use java in an e-mail! :o) > You should see what the Sun lawyers made us do on our JavaOne session slides ;-). > > b > Craig McClanahan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: doinking around with a logo
bill parducci at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > well, yeah, there is that. then again, who knows with those guys? you > might find them monitoring the list ready to make you put '(r)' every > time you use java in an e-mail! :o) One of those guys, errr, ehemmm, well... It's me... :) No, seriously, logos and so on are a _very_ serious matter... A couple of years ago we ran into troubles because we used the sketch of an Native American Indian sitting in front of a cup of coffee for Java.Apache.ORG (well, also the name was kind of a pain, got into "troubles" for that too). You know where you start, you never know where you end up to... (It's a f***ed up world, indeed, but...) Pier - who likes Java(TM) :) :) :) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: doinking around with a logo
"Pier P. Fumagalli" wrote: > > bill parducci at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> The little thinghie over the latter "a" is Copyright by Sun... > > > > it is LIKE it, but not the same. so i would disagree. > > I wouldn't want to even _raise_ the question with Sun... :) > > Pier well, yeah, there is that. then again, who knows with those guys? you might find them monitoring the list ready to make you put '(r)' every time you use java in an e-mail! :o) b - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: doinking around with a logo
bill parducci at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> The little thinghie over the latter "a" is Copyright by Sun... > > it is LIKE it, but not the same. so i would disagree. I wouldn't want to even _raise_ the question with Sun... :) Pier - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: doinking around with a logo
> Oh, yes, and not to mention the fact that that logo is following the "style" > of the ASF (check out the foundation logo)... And I really love sharp edged > fonts (that one should be a Trebouchet Bold, one of my favourites) :) as is the case with most all of the subprojects, but what the heck, i was just doinking around like i said. fyi the font is Calligraph421 BT b - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: doinking around with a logo
> The little thinghie over the latter "a" is Copyright by Sun... > > Pier it is LIKE it, but not the same. so i would disagree. b - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Response to appeal
Greetings, In just 24 hours, over sixty individuals have responded with their personalized request to Sun. Their requests as well as my critique of JSR47 can be found at http://jakarta.apache.org/log4j/docs/critique.html I am very happy about both the volume and quality of these requests but I am sure we can do better. It is becoming increasingly evident that no one will be happy about the upcoming logging API from Sun. I invite you to join our community in protest against the pollution of the Java environment with dubious APIs. Thank you in advance, Ceki Gülcü - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reponse to my appeal
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Re: How times change !!
> From: Alex =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fern=E1ndez?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I wonder: when Microsoft announces things like those, do they even > take it seriously (since everyone knows they'll cancel it later)? Do > they hire people? Allocate time for the tasks using Project? Even > draw a PowerPoint or two to show around? LOL;)) -- Arnaud Vandyck -- "Je ne l'avais jamais revu depuis sa mort" - (Paul Hervieux - La figure filante) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How times change !!
> From: Alex Fernández [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > I wonder: when Microsoft announces things like those, do they > even take > it seriously (since everyone knows they'll cancel it later)? Do they > hire people? Allocate time for the tasks using Project? Even draw a > PowerPoint or two to show around? Actually, I think all of the products mentioned in the article materialized. The COM support in the MS JVM was (and still is) really cool. The IDE mentioned has several features that NetBeans still lacks (like syntax checking as-you-type and a startup time shorter than Ellison's droning speech at J1). Compared to VB or VC++, J++ was pretty nice. It (and the MS JVM) are pretty antiquated these days, but the products looked like they had a bright future before the Sun lawsuit pushed them into the development of .NET. Jeff - Suddely realizing that he said something polite about MS, and that the room got very, very quiet :-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How times change !!
I wonder: when Microsoft announces things like those, do they even take it seriously (since everyone knows they'll cancel it later)? Do they hire people? Allocate time for the tasks using Project? Even draw a PowerPoint or two to show around? Alex. "Pier P. Fumagalli" wrote: > > Jon Stevens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > on 6/13/01 7:38 AM, "Conor MacNeill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> I cam across this old article while searching for something. It gave me a > >> little chuckle. > >> > >> http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-04-1996/jw-04-newsbriefs_p.html > >> > >> Conor > > > > Woah! I didn't even know about that. :-) > > > > Nice find and the humor is indeed great. :-) > > That article gives me rashes :) :) :) Itchyy :) :) :) > > Pier > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]