JavaOne Jakarta Gathering

2002-03-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

Just so it has a new subject...

Current plan :


 OK, we need to make a decision, pronto! Let's meet at 21st Amendment (563
 2nd Street) at 7:30pm on Monday. We can take the rest from there.
 
 Martin.

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RE: JavaOne Jakarta Gathering

2002-03-24 Thread Scott Sanders

I will be there.

Scott

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 Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 3:02 AM
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 Subject: JavaOne Jakarta Gathering
 
 
 Just so it has a new subject...
 
 Current plan :
 
 
  OK, we need to make a decision, pronto! Let's meet at 21st 
 Amendment 
  (563 2nd Street) at 7:30pm on Monday. We can take the rest 
 from there.
  
  Martin.
 
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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

2002-03-24 Thread dirkx


On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:

 on 3/22/02 11:36 PM, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  OK, we need to make a decision, pronto! Let's meet at 21st Amendment (563
  2nd Street) at 7:30pm on Monday. We can take the rest from there.
 
  Martin.

 I will be there.


Thanks for making the deceision.

On foot :To get their from the Conf. Center.  Simply take Mission street
(the street which runs 'through' the conf. center's middle) and go Norht
-one- block. Turn right onto second street and follow it for 2.5 block and
you are there. Left side of the road.

Dw


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RE: Printable pages

2002-03-24 Thread Leo Simons

Berin:
   In that case, the entire Jakarta site needs to be redesigned.
   It makes use of embedded tables and font elements.  It does
   not use CSS at all.

Jon:
  Correct.

Me:
 I don't know much about anakia, but I know more about xhtml and css
 than I do about java (sadly so =). I'll volunteer.

http://www.leosimons.com/scratchpad
(note I tried to put this in CVS but have no karma so...)

Here's a design I've had lying around adapted to Jakarta. Two screen
shots using IE 5.5, one is normal the other is print preview. I should
be able to make this work (more or less, at least) in everything
from NS2.x upwards. HTML also available for browsing.

The main problem is the code sections. If the line is too long to
fit on screen or page, it causes the entire page to break out, which
is ugly. The only thing I can think of is to use a css float: left
directive with @print, which cuts of a bit of the code. That, and
adapting the pages manually to keep the line length at bay. Suggestions?

Of course, colors are adaptable to current ones if desired...

thoughts? Is this wanted?

cheers,

- Leo Simons

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RE: Printable pages

2002-03-24 Thread dion

Leo Simons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 25/03/2002 07:59:47 AM:

 Berin:
In that case, the entire Jakarta site needs to be redesigned.
It makes use of embedded tables and font elements.  It does
not use CSS at all.
 
 Jon:
   Correct.
 
 Me:
  I don't know much about anakia, but I know more about xhtml and css
  than I do about java (sadly so =). I'll volunteer.
 
 http://www.leosimons.com/scratchpad
 (note I tried to put this in CVS but have no karma so...)
 
 Here's a design I've had lying around adapted to Jakarta. Two screen
 shots using IE 5.5, one is normal the other is print preview. I should
 be able to make this work (more or less, at least) in everything
 from NS2.x upwards. HTML also available for browsing.

These look good.

 The main problem is the code sections. If the line is too long to
 fit on screen or page, it causes the entire page to break out, which
 is ugly. The only thing I can think of is to use a css float: left
 directive with @print, which cuts of a bit of the code. That, and
 adapting the pages manually to keep the line length at bay. Suggestions?
 
 Of course, colors are adaptable to current ones if desired...
 
 thoughts? Is this wanted?

I'm willing to trial this with Latka, since it uses it's own copy of 
site.xsl (I've been playing this week).

Feel like helping on the stylesheet?
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RE: JakartaOne: The Gathering

2002-03-24 Thread Marc Saegesser

I'll be there.

I'm in SF now, for the conference.  Any idea how to identify Jakarta group?
I've only met a couple in person before.


Marc Saegesser 

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 1:36 AM
 To: Jakarta General List
 Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
 
 
 OK, we need to make a decision, pronto! Let's meet at 21st 
 Amendment (563
 2nd Street) at 7:30pm on Monday. We can take the rest from there.
 
 Martin.
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:24 AM
 Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
 
 
 
   Jon, can you suggest a place that isn't too far away from 
 Moscone that
 has a
   large bar (with real beer...) we can gather in, with a 
 reasonably-priced
   restaurant that we can then have dinner in?  Cuisine can 
 be anything,
 but a
   'normal' american upscale bar menu might be the most 
 appealing to the
   majority.
  
   How about Monday or Wed night?  How about the Thirsty 
 Bear?  I don't
 know
   anything about the place - isn't that where the Jboss 
 people are holding
   court?
 
  Soapy Bear is horrid- they clean their tubes badly, use too 
 much detergent
  when they do, and as a result you get old yeast and other 
 crap. Always a
  headache the next day. I'd also be against the Irish place 
 - too noisy to
  talk :-) Other near by ones which are good to OK IMHO, have 
 good beer and
  good food are and are quiet enough to talk:
 
  Rickenbacher bar; 2nd and mission
  21st Amendment; 2nd 2 blocks down.
 
  Dw
 
 
 
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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

2002-03-24 Thread dirkx


 Thanks for making the deceision.

 On foot :To get their from the Conf. Center.  Simply take Mission street

.. me wrong: it is HOWARD street. (Thanks Martin!).

 (the street which runs 'through' the conf. center's middle) and go Norht
 -one- block. Turn right onto second street and follow it for 2.5 block and
 you are there. Left side of the road.

Dw.


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Parallel Ant (was RE: The Complete Server Platform?)

2002-03-24 Thread Tim Vernum


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 Cannot ant (like normal decent pmake/bsdmake) figure out from the
 dependencies what can be done in parallel. I am not asking for the
 awsomeness of 'make -j 8 world' of *BSD - butsomething close should be
 possible I take it - could be a nice graduade student project :-)

It's probably feasible, but hard, and arguably the wrong place to do it.

I assume that the time consuming part is the javac.
If there's another task that's taking time, then it might be worth looking
at, but for javac...

Ant gets most of its speed gains (over make) by passing all the java
code to javac at once.
If it were passing the files one at a time, then it would be relatively
easy to run two processes at once.
But doing that would slow you down in almost all cases (maybe not
on the 8-way box, but in 99% of cases it would)

So Ant would have to take the fileset you pass, and do dependency analysis
on it to produce two (or more) disjoint sets of files to pass separately to
javac.
There's a fair amount of complexity there, and I'm not sure that Ant is the
place to put it.

Since the normal cases for JavaC is to pass in multiple files at once, I 
think javac should be able to parallelise itself.

So, a better grad project, might be to hack Jikes to support parallel
compiles.

[ I think follow-ups should go to Ant-Dev ]

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RE: JakartaOne: The Gathering

2002-03-24 Thread dirkx


On Sun, 24 Mar 2002, Marc Saegesser wrote:

 I'm in SF now, for the conference.  Any idea how to identify Jakarta group?
 I've only met a couple in person before.

  OK, we need to make a decision, pronto! Let's meet at 21st
  Amendment (563
  2nd Street) at 7:30pm on Monday. We can take the rest from there.

The bar is not big. And any developer arriving early is bound to play with
the Lego bricks provided at the bar. Assume that any one who has build a
three tier or higher construct using bricks of more than one colour (of
which at least one is red) is an apache develeoper.

Dw


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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

2002-03-24 Thread Yoko

Hello, JakartaOne attandee.

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: JakartaOne: The Gathering
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:44:39 -0800 (PST)

 The bar is not big. And any developer arriving early is bound to play with
 the Lego bricks provided at the bar. Assume that any one who has build a
 three tier or higher construct using bricks of more than one colour (of
 which at least one is red) is an apache develeoper.

I'll be there on Monday night.
And I'll be JakartaOne on Tuesday night, too.

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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

2002-03-24 Thread Martin Cooper

I've printed a scaled-up copy of The Jakarta Project logo, and am hoping to
tape it up, or make it otherwise visible, somewhere in the bar, so that we
can find each other.

Alternatively, Dirk's Lego project idea might help, although it's been a
very long time since I played with Lego... :-)

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- Original Message -
From: Marc Saegesser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: JakartaOne: The Gathering


 I'll be there.

 I'm in SF now, for the conference.  Any idea how to identify Jakarta
group?
 I've only met a couple in person before.


 Marc Saegesser

  -Original Message-
  From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 1:36 AM
  To: Jakarta General List
  Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
 
 
  OK, we need to make a decision, pronto! Let's meet at 21st
  Amendment (563
  2nd Street) at 7:30pm on Monday. We can take the rest from there.
 
  Martin.
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 11:24 AM
  Subject: Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering
 
 
  
Jon, can you suggest a place that isn't too far away from
  Moscone that
  has a
large bar (with real beer...) we can gather in, with a
  reasonably-priced
restaurant that we can then have dinner in?  Cuisine can
  be anything,
  but a
'normal' american upscale bar menu might be the most
  appealing to the
majority.
   
How about Monday or Wed night?  How about the Thirsty
  Bear?  I don't
  know
anything about the place - isn't that where the Jboss
  people are holding
court?
  
   Soapy Bear is horrid- they clean their tubes badly, use too
  much detergent
   when they do, and as a result you get old yeast and other
  crap. Always a
   headache the next day. I'd also be against the Irish place
  - too noisy to
   talk :-) Other near by ones which are good to OK IMHO, have
  good beer and
   good food are and are quiet enough to talk:
  
   Rickenbacher bar; 2nd and mission
   21st Amendment; 2nd 2 blocks down.
  
   Dw
  
  
  
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Re: JakartaOne: The Gathering

2002-03-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.

On 3/25/02 1:30 AM, Yoko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello, JakartaOne attandee.
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: JakartaOne: The Gathering
 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 16:44:39 -0800 (PST)
 
 The bar is not big. And any developer arriving early is bound to play with
 the Lego bricks provided at the bar. Assume that any one who has build a
 three tier or higher construct using bricks of more than one colour (of
 which at least one is red) is an apache develeoper.
 
 I'll be there on Monday night.
 And I'll be JakartaOne on Tuesday night, too.

There will be no JakartaOne on Tuesday night.  The meeting, which is
informal, will be on Monday.

geir

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