[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaBoardReport-March2005

2005-03-15 Thread general
   Date: 2005-03-15T01:50:47
   Editor: RoryWinston
   Wiki: Jakarta Wiki
   Page: JakartaBoardReport-March2005
   URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-March2005

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Change Log:

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@@ -68,6 +68,8 @@
 
  Commons Net 
 
+Commons Net 1.3.0 was released in late December. This release contained a 
large number of enhancements and bug fixes, but the most important change was 
the addition of NTP/SNTP support. Since 1.3.0, there have been more 
enhancements to the FTP parser (currently in CVS), with the ultimate aim of 
making the FTP client configuration much more flexible and comsequently being 
able to support different locales seamlessly. This, plus other bug fixes 
currently in the works, will form the basis of the 1.4 release.
+
  Commons Transaction 
 
  Cactus 

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[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaBoardReport-March2005

2005-03-15 Thread general
   Date: 2005-03-15T01:51:42
   Editor: RoryWinston
   Wiki: Jakarta Wiki
   Page: JakartaBoardReport-March2005
   URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-March2005

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Change Log:

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@@ -68,7 +68,7 @@
 
  Commons Net 
 
-Commons Net 1.3.0 was released in late December. This release contained a 
large number of enhancements and bug fixes, but the most important change was 
the addition of NTP/SNTP support. Since 1.3.0, there have been more 
enhancements to the FTP parser (currently in CVS), with the ultimate aim of 
making the FTP client configuration much more flexible and comsequently being 
able to support different locales seamlessly. This, plus other bug fixes 
currently in the works, will form the basis of the 1.4 release.
+Commons Net 1.3.0 was released in late December. This release contained a 
large number of enhancements and bug fixes, but the most important change was 
the addition of NTP/SNTP support. Since 1.3.0, there have been more 
enhancements to the FTP parser (currently in CVS), with the ultimate aim of 
making the FTP client configuration much more flexible and consequently being 
able to support different locales seamlessly. This, plus other bug fixes 
currently in the works, will form the basis of the 1.4 release.
 
  Commons Transaction 
 

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[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaBoardReport-March2005

2005-03-15 Thread general
   Date: 2005-03-15T02:08:20
   Editor: RobertBurrellDonkin
   Wiki: Jakarta Wiki
   Page: JakartaBoardReport-March2005
   URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/JakartaBoardReport-March2005

   no comment

Change Log:

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@@ -66,6 +66,9 @@
 
  Commons Logging 
 
+Alpha release containing improved memory recycling during hot deployment in 
containers without explicit support for JCL.
+Pushing towards a full 1.0.5 release.
+
  Commons Net 
 
 Commons Net 1.3.0 was released in late December. This release contained a 
large number of enhancements and bug fixes, but the most important change was 
the addition of NTP/SNTP support. Since 1.3.0, there have been more 
enhancements to the FTP parser (currently in CVS), with the ultimate aim of 
making the FTP client configuration much more flexible and consequently being 
able to support different locales seamlessly. This, plus other bug fixes 
currently in the works, will form the basis of the 1.4 release.

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Javadoc management

2005-03-15 Thread Henri Yandell
Interested in finding out if anyone else thinks this would be a good idea.
Rather than have each subproject managing their release javadocs 
separately, I think it would be good if we treated the javadoc more like 
the releases. Located in a central location, perhaps mirrored, all 
versions available and perhaps with additional tools like ashkelon or 
multidoc to bring them together.

Subprojects would still be hosting their latest cvs head javadocs 
internally, but they would deploy a versioned javadoc as a part of 
releasing, and we wouldn't end up with the issue where users cannot view 
the latest released javadoc due to a site rebuild etc.

Javadoc seems less important for some projects, Taglibs and Tomcat leap to 
mind, so it may not apply for all (though seeing a tag doc in javadoc 
style would rock).

Anyway. Looking for community interest. If there, I'd make it my 2005 Q2 
task, probably along with trying to hassle on LGPL stuff again.

As it's my current weapon of choice, I'd probably end up with an xml/xslt 
solution much like the download stuff, so feel free to point out that that 
wasy crap.

Hen
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Re: Javadoc management

2005-03-15 Thread Martin Cooper
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:49:08 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Interested in finding out if anyone else thinks this would be a good idea.
 
 Rather than have each subproject managing their release javadocs
 separately, I think it would be good if we treated the javadoc more like
 the releases. Located in a central location, perhaps mirrored, all
 versions available and perhaps with additional tools like ashkelon or
 multidoc to bring them together.

Sounds good to me (assuming you mean all *released* versions
available). On download pages, we could have binaries, sources and
javadocs, with options for javadocs being download or view online (a
bit like Sun's download pages). We might not need to mirror right away
- we could wait to see how much this gets used.

I'm not familiar with ashkelon or multidoc. What would they bring to the party?

--
Martin Cooper


 Subprojects would still be hosting their latest cvs head javadocs
 internally, but they would deploy a versioned javadoc as a part of
 releasing, and we wouldn't end up with the issue where users cannot view
 the latest released javadoc due to a site rebuild etc.
 
 Javadoc seems less important for some projects, Taglibs and Tomcat leap to
 mind, so it may not apply for all (though seeing a tag doc in javadoc
 style would rock).
 
 Anyway. Looking for community interest. If there, I'd make it my 2005 Q2
 task, probably along with trying to hassle on LGPL stuff again.
 
 As it's my current weapon of choice, I'd probably end up with an xml/xslt
 solution much like the download stuff, so feel free to point out that that
 wasy crap.
 
 Hen
 
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Re: Javadoc management

2005-03-15 Thread Henri Yandell

On Tue, 15 Mar 2005, Martin Cooper wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 00:49:08 -0500 (EST), Henri Yandell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Interested in finding out if anyone else thinks this would be a good idea.
Rather than have each subproject managing their release javadocs
separately, I think it would be good if we treated the javadoc more like
the releases. Located in a central location, perhaps mirrored, all
versions available and perhaps with additional tools like ashkelon or
multidoc to bring them together.
Sounds good to me (assuming you mean all *released* versions
available). On download pages, we could have binaries, sources and
javadocs, with options for javadocs being download or view online (a
bit like Sun's download pages). We might not need to mirror right away
- we could wait to see how much this gets used.
Yep. Unsure if the download page would be the best place for the view 
online option though.

I'm not familiar with ashkelon or multidoc. What would they bring to the party?
Ashkelon is an alternative to javadoc really. You load the javadoc into a 
database and it gives you a searchable system and a slightly more 
descriptive version of javadoc. I've a basic version running at:

http://issues.osjava.org/ashkelon/apis.do
while http://www.jdocs.com/ have a more customised version. It requires a 
db and a tomcat server.

Multidocs is a hack of mine. It scrapes from various existing javadoc urls 
and builds a wrapper around them:

http://www.apache.org/~bayard/multidoc/commons-multidoc/
I also had it doing src xref, test coverage etc.
Low cost, but all it really adds is a nicer way for the user to find the 
javadoc they want.

Hen
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[site] kill proposal.html page

2005-03-15 Thread Henri Yandell
The following page looks very dated, and I suspect utterly dead:
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/proposal.html
I'd like to kill it, and will do if I hear no -1's by Friday evening.
Hen
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[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: SiteInfo

2005-03-15 Thread general
   Date: 2005-03-15T23:07:55
   Editor: HenriYandell
   Wiki: Jakarta Wiki
   Page: SiteInfo
   URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/SiteInfo

   Split into DONE and TODO sections

Change Log:

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@@ -1,5 +1,28 @@
 = Plan for the future of the Jakarta site =
 
+== TODO ==
+
+ 1. Delete content:
+  a. Vendor page
+  a. Newsletter Editor page
+  a. Reference library
+ 1. Flatten Project Guidelines and all the other 'how to' pages into a 
shallower structure.
+ 1. Removal of dead pages:
+  a. packageversioning* (nothing links to this)
+  a. versioning.html (nothing links to this)
+  a. idedevelopers.html (nothing links to this)
+ 1. Move JSPA stuff to www.apache.org. ''Geir''.
+ 3. [EMAIL PROTECTED] considerations. Indexing systems for javadoc, jars, 
downloads etc. IRC channel? Java-based reference pages?
+ 5. Translation sites. What to do about them. 
+ 6. Removal of information that may be found at [http://www.apache.org/dev/], 
the Incubator or other ASF locations.
+ 7. Download improvements:
+  a. Update to include nightly snapshots athttp://cvs.apache.org/snapshots/
+  a. Change filenames from 1.0.zip to project-1.0.zip. Do this by making the 
name equal the filename if no name is specified.
+  a. Remove Commons from Commons components? 
+ 1. Migration of reference pages into Foundation. ''Robert'' - '''ONGOING'''
+
+== DONE ==
+
  0. 2005 copyright update. - '''DONE'''
  0. Cleanup of dead parts of the site. - '''DONE'''
  1. Removal of Anakia build and usage of Ant/XSL as the only build system. - 
'''DONE'''
@@ -15,15 +38,11 @@
  1. Tighter front page (tighter welcome message, new text under Products) - 
'''DONE'''
  1. Delete content:
   a. Remove licence renewal and news blog from Headlines section. Rename 
Headlines to News.  -'''DONE'''
-  a. Vendor page
   a. Acknowledgements page - Redirect to 
http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html
-  a. Elsewhere news - ''Hen''
+  a. Elsewhere news - '''KEEPING'''
   a. Our Mission -'''DONE'''
-  a. Newsletter Editor page
-  a. Reference library
   a. Related project table -'''DONE''' (site/java_at_apache.html)
  1. Rename Graduated to Ex-Jakarta.  - '''DONE'''
- 1. Flatten Project Guidelines and all the other 'how to' pages into a 
shallower structure.
  1. Removal of silly pages:
   a. jon.html (and images) - '''DONE'''
   a. love.html - '''DONE'''
@@ -32,22 +51,11 @@
  1. Removal of dead pages:
   a. methodology.html (nothing links to this) - '''DONE''' (redirect added)
   a. jakarta-site-*.html (4 pages, with various links to them; however the 
content is bad) - '''DONE''' (rewritten)
-  a. packageversioning* (nothing links to this)
-  a. versioning.html (nothing links to this)
-  a. idedevelopers.html (nothing links to this)
- 1. Move JSPA stuff to www.apache.org. ''Geir''.
  1. Move Legal link from navbar to bottom of page. -'''DONE'''
  1. Migrate to Subversion - [Site2 Conversion Instructions]. - '''DONE'''
- 1. Migration of reference pages into Foundation. ''Robert'' - '''ONGOING'''
- 2. Improvement of download pages. Creation of cgi pages. - ''Hen'' - 
[DownloadPages]
+ 2. Improvement of download pages. Creation of cgi pages. - ''Hen'' - 
[DownloadPages] - '''DONE'''
   a. Remove other-releases.html page. - '''DONE'''
-  a. Update to include nightly snapshots athttp://cvs.apache.org/snapshots/
-  a. Change filenames from 1.0.zip to project-1.0.zip. Do this by making the 
name equal the filename if no name is specified.
-  a. Remove Commons from Commons components? 
- 3. [EMAIL PROTECTED] considerations. Indexing systems for javadoc, jars, 
downloads etc. IRC channel? Java-based reference pages?
  4. SVN information in addition to CVS information. - '''DONE'''
- 5. Translation sites. What to do about them. 
- 6. Removal of information that may be found at [http://www.apache.org/dev/], 
the Incubator or other ASF locations.
- 7. Posting of board reports to the site. - '''READY TO GO LIVE''' - 
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/pmc/board-reports.html
+ 7. Posting of board reports to the site. - '''DONE''' - 
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/pmc/board-reports.html
  8. Move 'In Memoriam' to the whoweare.html page in Feb 2005. - '''DONE'''
  9. Switch google link to a form. - '''DONE'''

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[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: SiteInfo

2005-03-15 Thread general
   Date: 2005-03-15T23:12:19
   Editor: HenriYandell
   Wiki: Jakarta Wiki
   Page: SiteInfo
   URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/SiteInfo

   New site tasks.

Change Log:

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@@ -2,17 +2,17 @@
 
 == TODO ==
 
- 1. Delete content:
+ 1. Delete:
   a. Vendor page
-  a. Newsletter Editor page
-  a. Reference library
- 1. Flatten Project Guidelines and all the other 'how to' pages into a 
shallower structure.
- 1. Removal of dead pages:
+  a. Newsletter Editor page - move to wiki? kill?
+  a. Reference library - partly to a generic Java page and partly to a generic 
CVS page.
   a. packageversioning* (nothing links to this)
   a. versioning.html (nothing links to this)
   a. idedevelopers.html (nothing links to this)
+  a. proposal.html (way out of date)
+  a. faqs.html
+ 1. Flatten Project Guidelines and all the other 'how to' pages into a 
shallower structure.
  1. Move JSPA stuff to www.apache.org. ''Geir''.
- 3. [EMAIL PROTECTED] considerations. Indexing systems for javadoc, jars, 
downloads etc. IRC channel? Java-based reference pages?
  5. Translation sites. What to do about them. 
  6. Removal of information that may be found at [http://www.apache.org/dev/], 
the Incubator or other ASF locations.
  7. Download improvements:
@@ -20,6 +20,10 @@
   a. Change filenames from 1.0.zip to project-1.0.zip. Do this by making the 
name equal the filename if no name is specified.
   a. Remove Commons from Commons components? 
  1. Migration of reference pages into Foundation. ''Robert'' - '''ONGOING'''
+ 1. Update mail.html page. Some lists may be dead and the stated noise of each 
list is incorrect.
+ 1. Generated project info pages to replace mail, cvs/svn, 
jira/bugzilla/scarab, wiki parts. Would also link to the download page for said 
project. Could grow to cover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+ 1. Javadoc index/directory.
+ 3. [EMAIL PROTECTED] considerations. Indexing systems for javadoc, jars, 
downloads etc. IRC channel? Java-based reference pages?
 
 == DONE ==
 

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[Jakarta Wiki] Updated: SiteInfo

2005-03-15 Thread general
   Date: 2005-03-15T23:13:06
   Editor: HenriYandell
   Wiki: Jakarta Wiki
   Page: SiteInfo
   URL: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/SiteInfo

   no comment

Change Log:

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@@ -2,6 +2,8 @@
 
 == TODO ==
 
+(''Hen'' unless otherwise stated or volunteers step forward)
+
  1. Delete:
   a. Vendor page
   a. Newsletter Editor page - move to wiki? kill?

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