*REMINDER* Re: [Apache Newsletter Draft] News as to Jakarta General Project from Aug. to Sep.
Hi, Jakarta General Mailing List Subscribers, This is a last call for additions for the Aug. to Sep. newsletter. (The Apache Newsletter -- Issue 2 -- http://www.apache.org/newsletter/) There's still time to add articles about your favorite jakarta (and jakarta-related) products to the wiki page. http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue2 The editorial deadline will be 00:00 (PDT), 11th October. # 07:00 GMT, 11th October If you have a hesitation in writing the article using Apachewiki, please directly write it and let me know. I'll upload it and pick it up as an article in the next newsletter. Yes, if you do have a hesitation on writing article via Wiki, please send e-mails to me [EMAIL PROTECTED] directly. Anticipating nice blurb :-) Sincerely, -- Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Wed, 01 Oct 2003 23:02:58 +0900 (Subject: [Apache Newsletter Draft] News as to Jakarta General Project from Aug. to Sep.) Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Jakarta General Mailing List Subscribers, Hello, Apache newsletter is in progress of preparing the second all-Apache newsletter, news from August to September 2003, which will be published in the middle of October 2003. === What is The Apache Newsletter? === http://www.apache.org/newsletter/ the 'Apache Newsletter Issue 2' will be appeared at http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200309.html and the editorial deadline will be 00:00 GMT-7000, 11th October. We lowered the barrier to entry -anyone will be able to easily contribute, as prepared the ApacheWiki (http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi). If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue2 and fill up what you want to append. (A few editors per (sub)project would be highly appreciated, indeed) Of course, if you do have a hesitation on writing article via Wiki, please send e-mails to me [EMAIL PROTECTED] directly. Probably, the former newsletter (Apache Newsletter Issue #1) might be able to give you some hints in writing the articles. cf. http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200307.html I am waiting your contributions. Please e-mail to me [EMAIL PROTECTED] whensoever you have a question about this newsletter. Hope to hear from you Sincerely, -- Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (The Apache Newsletter Issuer/Editor) http://www.apache.org/newsletter/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ Apache Software Foundation Committer: http://www.apache.org/~tetsuya/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Apache Newsletter Draft] News as to Jakarta General Project from Aug. to Sep.
Dear Jakarta General Mailing List Subscribers, Hello, Apache newsletter is in progress of preparing the second all-Apache newsletter, news from August to September 2003, which will be published in the middle of October 2003. === What is The Apache Newsletter? === http://www.apache.org/newsletter/ the 'Apache Newsletter Issue 2' will be appeared at http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200309.html and the editorial deadline will be 00:00 GMT-7000, 11th October. We lowered the barrier to entry -anyone will be able to easily contribute, as prepared the ApacheWiki (http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi). If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue2 and fill up what you want to append. (A few editors per (sub)project would be highly appreciated, indeed) Of course, if you do have a hesitation on writing article via Wiki, please send e-mails to me [EMAIL PROTECTED] directly. Probably, the former newsletter (Apache Newsletter Issue #1) might be able to give you some hints in writing the articles. cf. http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200307.html I am waiting your contributions. Please e-mail to me [EMAIL PROTECTED] whensoever you have a question about this newsletter. Hope to hear from you Sincerely, -- Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (The Apache Newsletter Issuer/Editor) http://www.apache.org/newsletter/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] The Apache Newsletter Issue #1 Released
Forgot to mention: We have decided to publish The Apache Newsletter not monthly but bi-monthly, The Apache Newsletter Issue #2 will be published around 15th October or thereabouts. To receive the newsletter in e-mail forms, please see http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-announce and follow the subscripition guideline. I'll solicit you for the articles/contributions of various projects in the ASF (apache.org) at the beginning of next month. Have a nice day -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 16:27:24 +0900 (Subject: [ANN] The Apache Newsletter Issue #1 Released) Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Apache Newsletter Issue #1 Released snip/ --- Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Accredited Herrmann Brain Dominance Instrument Facilitator) http://www.hbdi.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ANN] The Apache Newsletter Issue #1 Released
The Apache Newsletter Issue #1 Released Thanks to all the contributors/editors of the newsletter, the first The Apache Newsletter (Issue #1) has arrived at last. http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200307.html The Apache Newsletter could be published as a result of the outgrowth of Jakarta Newsletter and the newsletter can cover all the projects including infrastructure, incubator et cetera. You can read it through http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200307.html http://www.apache.org/newsletter/index.html and if you are the subscriber of the Apache Announcement List (http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-announce), the e-mail version will be arrived at this mailing list in several hours. Today, 15th August 2003, is the 58th anniversary of the end of the Pacific War (and World War II) and I am very glad to publish this newsletter in this moment. The internet and the wave of internationalization gradually reduced the boundaries of each countries, as well, this newsletter will be one of the *glue* of the communities in the ASF umbrella, beyond the artificial boundaries of technical languages etc. Hope this can gradually lead the good course of the ASF, avoiding the balkanization of each projects and keep the hand tightly with various projects. I want to thank to those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate mailing lists [1]. if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to ApacheWiki [2] or mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1] - http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html [2] - http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue2 -- The Apache Newsletter Issue #1 Issuer: The Apache Software Foundation -- 15th August, 2003 Editor: Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Please enjoy!! Best Regards, -- Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Apache Newsletter Draft] News on Jakarta in July, 2003
Hello, All (Jakarta-General Mailing List Subscribers) I am now preparing the 'The Apache Newsletter Issue 1', the first ASF-wide-newsletter of July 2003, which will be published in the middle of August 2003. -- http://www.apache.org/newsletter/ -- This Apache Newsletter will be published as a result of the outgrowth of the previous Jakarta Newsletter and Apache Newsletter can now cover all the projects under apache.org including infrastructure, incubator, xml, webservice, et cetra. 'The Apache Newsletter Issue 1' will be appeared at http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200307.html and the editorial deadline will be 00:00 GMT, 9th August. ApacheWiki (http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi) had been already set up. If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1 and fill up what you want to append in. If there's nothing news-worthy on your sub/projects, then please write something you *hope* (e.g. XX project will release FINAL version of XX product in the middle of August, etc etc). If you have been voted in warmly as a new committer in ASF the last month (July) please add your name to the list on ApacheWiki. If your project really want some ADVERTISEMENT (to recruit new comers, etc etc), please write nice and catchy blurb at the advertisement section so that it will attract the readers' attentions. Probably, the former newsletter final draft and newsletter itself (Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9) will give you some hints in writing the articles. cf. http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200305.html If you have any questions about this, please send your messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This Newsletter will be published as webpage and be announced at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the ASF-wide announcement list) To subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED], please follow this instruction: http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-announce Hope to hear from many jakarta subprojects!! (If you feel hesitation in writing articles on ApacheWiki, please write your memo in this Jakarta General mailing list or give me a note). http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1 Sincerely, -- Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. Also, your voice at Readers' Voice section will be highly appreciated. Contributions from readers are cordially invited !! - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Apache Newsletter Draft] News on Jakarta in July, 2003
Just thought I'd point out that the Apache Newsletter is sharing namespace with http://www.apacheweek.com/. I've no idea what that's relationship is to ASF. I've been getting it for years and only just realised that it's not from apache.org. So you might have some confused readers. Hen On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: Hello, All (Jakarta-General Mailing List Subscribers) I am now preparing the 'The Apache Newsletter Issue 1', the first ASF-wide-newsletter of July 2003, which will be published in the middle of August 2003. -- http://www.apache.org/newsletter/ -- This Apache Newsletter will be published as a result of the outgrowth of the previous Jakarta Newsletter and Apache Newsletter can now cover all the projects under apache.org including infrastructure, incubator, xml, webservice, et cetra. 'The Apache Newsletter Issue 1' will be appeared at http://www.apache.org/newsletter/200307.html and the editorial deadline will be 00:00 GMT, 9th August. ApacheWiki (http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi) had been already set up. If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1 and fill up what you want to append in. If there's nothing news-worthy on your sub/projects, then please write something you *hope* (e.g. XX project will release FINAL version of XX product in the middle of August, etc etc). If you have been voted in warmly as a new committer in ASF the last month (July) please add your name to the list on ApacheWiki. If your project really want some ADVERTISEMENT (to recruit new comers, etc etc), please write nice and catchy blurb at the advertisement section so that it will attract the readers' attentions. Probably, the former newsletter final draft and newsletter itself (Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9) will give you some hints in writing the articles. cf. http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200305.html If you have any questions about this, please send your messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This Newsletter will be published as webpage and be announced at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (the ASF-wide announcement list) To subscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED], please follow this instruction: http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-announce Hope to hear from many jakarta subprojects!! (If you feel hesitation in writing articles on ApacheWiki, please write your memo in this Jakarta General mailing list or give me a note). http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1 Sincerely, -- Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. Also, your voice at Readers' Voice section will be highly appreciated. Contributions from readers are cordially invited !! - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[CONCLUSION] Apache Newsletter
All, Seems that the vote (to be precise, proposal) has been passed without a dissenting voice. The ayes have it ! So, I will prepare for the Apache Newsletter from now on. (ApacheWiki, etc.) http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts and http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1 Apache Newsletter will be appeared at http://www.apache.org/newsletter/ If you have question on this, please do not hesitate to ask me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Cross-Posted to Jakarta-General, WS-General and XML-General. To WS and XML folks: please see the jakarta-newsletter example seen at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200305.html We will prepare the Apache Software Foundation Wide Newsletter. I will announce to you at all the developer list when I need help for the articles. Please please help me when the time has come. -- My Original Intention -- There are so many projects in the ASF, and it might be very hard for all the users/developers to catch up whole things what is happening to the Apache activities. The aim of the newsletter is to try and let people know what's been going on in the projects in the ASF when they have been unable to monitor all of them themselves. The editorship of the various sections and overall will probably vary which should hopefully lead to a fairly dynamic newsletter. There are many people who are *passive* as well as *active*. People in the tendency of passive will not actively see the website maybe, however, e-mail might be able to stir up the *awareness*/*imagination* for something. I hope/believe that these kind of *awareness* will come to fruition of the *cross-pollination* and *breakthrough* in technology as well as in community's growth (ASF-wide community's growth). Of course, I want to prepare the web version for the newsletter: there are many people who love e-mails as well as web pages. I am glad that this Apache Newsletter will be published as a result of the outgrowth of Jakarta Newsletter and the newsletter can cover all the projects including infrastructure, incubator et ce tra. Thanks to the all the contributors to the previous jakarta newsletter and the precursors, Rob Oxsprings and Robert Burrel Donkin's great work. We lowered the barrier to entry - users and developers will be able to easily contribute, as prepared the ApacheWiki. http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?ApacheNewsletterDrafts/Issue1 and fill up what you want to append. Anticipating nice blurb and news for the projects which you are interested in!! Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. There is still a room for the discussion about the 'frequency' and 'place to post', however, I want to do the experimentation for a while. (not so long) I think experimentation might conform to the A Patchy spirits ;-) - On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 10:33:14 -0500 (Subject: Apache Newsletter [Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003]) Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 7/11/03 6:07 AM Thom May wrote: Why the obsession with email? push vs. pull example: we are having this conversation and the information I'm sending its pushed into your mailbox. I could post this information on a weblog and then point you to it, but, in my experience, the chance that you will read it is much lower. another reason is asynchronicity. if I push it in your mailboxes, you carry it with you. maybe on a train, as it was already noted. Sure, you can download stuff from the web and carry it with you but it *requires* effort from your part. Again, the chance that you will do it is much lower. This is what I would like to see: 1) the ASF publishes a newsletter (following the very nice style used in the recent Jakarta one) that covers all the ASF endevours. Including infrastructure, licensing, security, incubation and all the non-so-project stuff. 2) the newsletter is sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) the newsletter is then archived on www.apache.org/newsletter/[date] What do you think? -- Stefano. - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Newslettter] Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 -- May-June 2003
Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 == Date: May-June 2003 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200305.html It's been another good year at the JavaWorld Tools Awards [1] for Apache. Xerces2 Java Parser 2.4 from the Apache XML Project won the Best Java-XML Tool award and Apache Ant 1.5 developed by the Apache Ant Project won the Most Useful Java Community-Developed Technology. Good work! W3C has issued SOAP 1.2 as a recommendation. This means that the SOAP 1.2 specification is now (effectively) a web standard. Apache software related to SOAP can be found in the Web Services and XML projects. The press release is now available online [3]. This newsletter is the second wiki-built newsletter. See the http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts for more details. Also, I sent the announcements to all the developers' list in jakarta. It was a bit annoying I suppose, however, this newsletter contains a lot of news from various projects, including Jakarta Related Projects. Note: Apache Ant, Avalon, James, Maven, Incubator, DB (OJB/TORQUE) are not subprojects under Apache Jakarta any longer, however, we really appreciate to hear the news from the Jakarta Related Projects. I strongly hope/believe this newsletter would be able to become one of the *liaison* for the various projects in ASF. I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list [4], if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with [NEWSLETTER] prefixed subject. [1] - http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-06-2003/jw-0609-eca.html [2] - http://xml.apache.org/xerces2-j/index.html [3] - http://www.w3.org/2003/06/soap12-pressrelease [4] - http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html Editor: Tetsuya Kitahata Special Thanks: Robert Burrel Donkin Contents Jakarta General Jakarta Commons General Jakarta Commons EL Jakarta Commons FileUpload Jakarta Commons DBCP Jakarta Commons HttpClient Jakarta Commons Lang Jakarta Commons Math Jakarta Jetspeed Jakarta JMeter Jakarta Log4j Jakarta Lucene Jakarta Poi Jakarta Struts Jakarta Tapestry Jakarta Tomcat Jakarta Turbine Jakarta Velocity Apache Ant Project Apache Avalon Fortress Apache DB OJB Apache Httpd WebServer Project Apache James Project New Committers Products avaliable as of the end of June, 2003 -- Jakarta General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Tetsuya Kitahata Discussions on general mailing list have been fairly light-weight these 2 months. The Main page of the Jakarta Site has been updated in order to arrange the Jakarta-Related projects properly. Now, Jakarta website has renewed to become one of the most powerful Java-Portal sites. The JavaOne Conference was held in June, and there seemed many atendees from jakarta participants. As Sun Microsystems set up the http://java.net/ site, there was alot of talk surrounding this issue. Jakarta Tapestry, which had been longed to become a Top Project in Jakarta, finally joined in the Jakarta Umbrella in May. The first proposal was made at General Mailing List in October last year by Howard M. Lewis Ship, so it took about a half year. We look forward to the Tapestry Team playing a more active part in Jakarta. -- Jakarta Commons General === creating and maintaining reusable Java components Editor: Robert Burrel Donkin, Tetsuya Kitahata An OnJava Article [1] covering the components in Jakarta Commons [2] has been published. If you've ever wondered about what's all these components do, this is a good place to start. Due to the diverse nature of the commons group, this section has been split up to make it easier to pick out the topics of interest. These months' stories come from the following: [1] - http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2003/06/25/commons.html [2] - http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/ Jakarta Commons EL == Editor: Robert Burrel Donkin The Commons Team is pleased to announce the 1.0 release of commons-EL. EL is the JSP 2.0 Expression Language Interpreter from Apache For more information see the EL component home page [1]. [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/el.html Jakarta Commons FileUpload == Editor: Robert Burrel Donkin The Commons Team is pleased to announce the long-awaited release of commons-fileupload 1.0. Good work Martin
Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9
Mark, The editorial deadline would be 00:00 GMT+, 6th July. Anticipating nice blurb on log4j :-) http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 20:22:06 -0700 (Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9) Mark Womack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a target date for completion? -Mark - Original Message - From: robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:28 AM Subject: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 it's about time for people to start thinking about the jakarta newsletter. once again, it will be collated on the wiki. you can find it at: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 i was the guest editor for issue 8 and (if no one else steps up) i'd be willing to edit issue 9. i seem to have a whole lot of things to do and too little time to do them at the moment so i'd be very grateful if someone else volunteered to edit issue 9. (i can supply instructions.) anyone fancy the job? - robert - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ANNOUNCEMENT] *REMINDER* last call for may-june newsletter
This is a last call for additions for the may-june newsletter. There's still time to add articles about your favorite jakarta (and jakarta-related) products to the wiki page. http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 The editorial deadline would be 00:00 GMT, 6th July. Personally, I think there are still rooms for - Jakarta Struts (Struts 1.1 FINAL released, etc.) - Jakarta Tapestry (moved up to Jakarta Top Project) - Jakarta Commons (Sandbox Components - e.g.HiveMind, etc.) - Jakarta BSF - Jakarta Cactus - Jakarta Taglibs - Jakarta Jetspeed (New Committer was voted, etc.) - Jakarta Poi - Apache Maven - Apache Avalon (New Committer was voted, etc.) - Apache DB/Torque etc. If you have a hesitation in writing the article using Apachewiki, please directly write it to this mailing list. I'll upload it and pick it up as an article in the next newsletter. Anticipating nice blurb :-) Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. I posted to all the -dev lists, one or two mails which have [JAKARTA NEWSLETTER DRAFT] prefixed subject. You can write an article on that mail tree (thread) at each -dev lists. - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[ANNOUNCEMENT] *REMINDER* last call for may-june newsletter
This is a last call for additions for the may-june newsletter. There's still time to add articles about your favorite jakarta (and jakarta-related) products to the wiki page. http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 The editorial deadline would be 00:00 GMT, 6th July. Personally, I think there are still rooms for - Jakarta Struts (Struts 1.1 FINAL released, etc.) - Jakarta Tapestry (moved up to Jakarta Top Project) - Jakarta Commons (Sandbox Components - e.g.HiveMind, etc.) - Jakarta BSF - Jakarta Cactus - Jakarta Taglibs - Jakarta Jetspeed (New Committer was voted, etc.) - Jakarta Poi - Apache Maven - Apache Avalon (New Committer was voted, etc.) - Apache DB/Torque etc. If you have a hesitation in writing the article using Apachewiki, please directly write it to this mailing list. I'll upload it and pick it up as an article in the next newsletter. Anticipating nice blurb :-) Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. I posted to all the -dev lists, one or two mails which have [JAKARTA NEWSLETTER DRAFT] prefixed subject. You can write an article on that mail tree (thread) at each -dev lists. - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[JAKARTA NEWSLETTER] News on Jakarta from May to June, 2003
Hello, All We are now preparing the 'Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9', news from May to June 2003, which would be published in the middle of July 2003. The 'Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9' will be appeared at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200305.html and the editorial deadline would be 00:00 GMT, 6th July. We lowered the barrier to entry - users and developers will be able to easily contribute, as prepared the ApacheWiki (http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi). If you have anything to be added to the ApacheWiki, please go to http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 and fill in up what you want to append. If there's nothing news-worthy on the projects, then please just write *N/A*. If you have been voted in as a new committer in jakarta or jakarta-related projects within these 2 months, please add your name to the list on ApacheWiki. Probably, the former newsletter draft (Jakarta Newsletter Issue8) would give you some hints in writing the articles. cf. http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue8March2003 If you have any questions about this, please send your messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) P.S. I wanna post these above to each projects' dev list sooner or later. - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9
hi Tetsuya do you still want the job? if so, it's yours! the first stage of the process is to think about some kind of editorial deadline (in order to concentrate the minds of potential contributors). you then need to tell everyone about it and persuade as many people as possible to contribute. this probably needs to start ASAP. - robert On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 06:53 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: I'd been off for a while, so I've read this mail a little while ago. I'd like to do the volunteer. How/When can I do this? Should this be monthly? or bi-monthly? I'll prepare the 'Products List avaliable as of the end of ' soon. (similar to what I posted to this mailing list last month) Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:28:59 +0100 (Subject: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9) robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's about time for people to start thinking about the jakarta newsletter. once again, it will be collated on the wiki. you can find it at: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 i was the guest editor for issue 8 and (if no one else steps up) i'd be willing to edit issue 9. i seem to have a whole lot of things to do and too little time to do them at the moment so i'd be very grateful if someone else volunteered to edit issue 9. (i can supply instructions.) anyone fancy the job? - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9
Robert, Okay, thanks. I'll prepare for these as soon as possible. I also have some ideas on this newsletter, however, I could not summarize the ideas... Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 22:34:36 +0100 (Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9) robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi Tetsuya do you still want the job? if so, it's yours! the first stage of the process is to think about some kind of editorial deadline (in order to concentrate the minds of potential contributors). you then need to tell everyone about it and persuade as many people as possible to contribute. this probably needs to start ASAP. - robert On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 06:53 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: I'd been off for a while, so I've read this mail a little while ago. I'd like to do the volunteer. How/When can I do this? Should this be monthly? or bi-monthly? I'll prepare the 'Products List avaliable as of the end of ' soon. (similar to what I posted to this mailing list last month) Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:28:59 +0100 (Subject: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9) robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's about time for people to start thinking about the jakarta newsletter. once again, it will be collated on the wiki. you can find it at: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 i was the guest editor for issue 8 and (if no one else steps up) i'd be willing to edit issue 9. i seem to have a whole lot of things to do and too little time to do them at the moment so i'd be very grateful if someone else volunteered to edit issue 9. (i can supply instructions.) anyone fancy the job? - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9
On Friday, June 27, 2003, at 06:53 AM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: I'd been off for a while, so I've read this mail a little while ago. I'd like to do the volunteer. cool. How/When can I do this? right here, right now! the newsletter needs to get moving very soon so unless rob oxspring (the original editor) expresses an interest to editor newsletter 9 soon, you've got the job! i promised rob that i'd create a newsletter-how-to-page on the jakarta so i'll try to put something together this weekend. Should this be monthly? or bi-monthly? originally it was monthly but it's a lot of work and the monthly editions tended to be very, very late. i switched to bi-monthly since it think that this should allow the issues to be released more promptly. really IMHO the direction of the newsletter is a matter for the community but with the editor taking the lead. i have some ideas but i'll probably post them in another email. I'll prepare the 'Products List avaliable as of the end of ' soon. (similar to what I posted to this mailing list last month) Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:28:59 +0100 (Subject: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9) robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's about time for people to start thinking about the jakarta newsletter. once again, it will be collated on the wiki. you can find it at: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 i was the guest editor for issue 8 and (if no one else steps up) i'd be willing to edit issue 9. i seem to have a whole lot of things to do and too little time to do them at the moment so i'd be very grateful if someone else volunteered to edit issue 9. (i can supply instructions.) anyone fancy the job? - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9
I'd been off for a while, so I've read this mail a little while ago. I'd like to do the volunteer. How/When can I do this? Should this be monthly? or bi-monthly? I'll prepare the 'Products List avaliable as of the end of ' soon. (similar to what I posted to this mailing list last month) Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) - On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 18:28:59 +0100 (Subject: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9) robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's about time for people to start thinking about the jakarta newsletter. once again, it will be collated on the wiki. you can find it at: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 i was the guest editor for issue 8 and (if no one else steps up) i'd be willing to edit issue 9. i seem to have a whole lot of things to do and too little time to do them at the moment so i'd be very grateful if someone else volunteered to edit issue 9. (i can supply instructions.) anyone fancy the job? - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9
otis isn't wrong but it's really at the whim of the editor. (that's why i made it bi-monthly.) if no one else step forward in the next couple of says, then i'll have to do the job and so i'll post up some sort of guidance about times. - robert On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 06:13 AM, otisg wrote: It is supposed to be a monthly newsletter, so completion would be by the end of this week or so. Otis Get your own 800 number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Mark Womack ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Is there a target date for completion? -Mark - Original Message - From: robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:28 AM Subject: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 it's about time for people to start thinking about the jakarta newsletter. once again, it will be collated on the wiki. you can find it at: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 i was the guest editor for issue 8 and (if no one else steps up) i'd be willing to edit issue 9. i seem to have a whole lot of things to do and too little time to do them at the moment so i'd be very grateful if someone else volunteered to edit issue 9. (i can supply instructions.) anyone fancy the job? - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9
it's about time for people to start thinking about the jakarta newsletter. once again, it will be collated on the wiki. you can find it at: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 i was the guest editor for issue 8 and (if no one else steps up) i'd be willing to edit issue 9. i seem to have a whole lot of things to do and too little time to do them at the moment so i'd be very grateful if someone else volunteered to edit issue 9. (i can supply instructions.) anyone fancy the job? - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9
Is there a target date for completion? -Mark - Original Message - From: robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:28 AM Subject: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 it's about time for people to start thinking about the jakarta newsletter. once again, it will be collated on the wiki. you can find it at: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 i was the guest editor for issue 8 and (if no one else steps up) i'd be willing to edit issue 9. i seem to have a whole lot of things to do and too little time to do them at the moment so i'd be very grateful if someone else volunteered to edit issue 9. (i can supply instructions.) anyone fancy the job? - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9
It is supposed to be a monthly newsletter, so completion would be by the end of this week or so. Otis Get your own 800 number Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Mark Womack ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Is there a target date for completion? -Mark - Original Message - From: robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:28 AM Subject: Jakarta Newsletter Issue 9 it's about time for people to start thinking about the jakarta newsletter. once again, it will be collated on the wiki. you can find it at: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9 i was the guest editor for issue 8 and (if no one else steps up) i'd be willing to edit issue 9. i seem to have a whole lot of things to do and too little time to do them at the moment so i'd be very grateful if someone else volunteered to edit issue 9. (i can supply instructions.) anyone fancy the job? - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PATCH] index.xml patch for introduction to related projects (was Re: [PATCH] Re: Jakarta Newsletter ...)
Hi, Robert and all. I created new one and put on http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/index.en.html This is my idea. 1. Created a new table for the introductions of related projects. (Ant, Avalon, DB, Incubator, James and MAVEN) 2. Added a direct link to related projects' site (for incubator and DB, especially it would be necessary) 3. Fixed the order of James Released and Scalab released in other news section. (Sorry, this was my mistake) 4. Fixed some typos and grammatical errors. 5. Added direct ComponentsList link in the row of Jakarta Commons' explanations (I think this is very very useful!) 6. Added Projects in Proposal for future enhancements. (Now N/A) And this is based on the newest CVS. If this would be better than the existing one, I'll re-submit patches within a couple of days. Sincerely, -- On Sun, 1 Jun 2003 12:31:06 +0100 (Subject: Re: [PATCH] index.xml patch for introduction to related projects (was Re: [PATCH] Re: Jakarta Newsletter ...)) robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i quite like the idea of adding a table giving introductions for related projects but i know some other people think that the welcome page is too big already. opinions, anybody? - robert On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 01:29 PM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: Hi, Robert and all. applied. many thanks. i hope you'll find some time to add something about BCEL (and maybe James too) to the next newsletter http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9. Thanks you very much. I confirmed. Sure, I will take care of the wiki if possible. Then, I created a new patch for 1. Correcting the order of James Released and Scalab released in other news section. 2. Adding Tapestry, in proposal, to the table of products list. 3. Creating new table for Ant, Avalon, DB, Incubator and James Projects (Jakarta-Related Projects). The look and feel of new index.html might be .. http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/index.en.html I think this will avoid the confusion for all the new comer to jakarta (and also for the elder, senior jakarta-n ;-) and will be easy introduction to the related (maybe merged into jakarta soon) projects. Sincerely, Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED] snip - Tetsuya Kitahata -- Terra-International, Inc. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.terra-intl.com/ (Apache Jakarta Translation, Japanese) http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PATCH] index.xml patch for introduction to related projects (was Re: [PATCH] Re: Jakarta Newsletter ...)
i quite like the idea of adding a table giving introductions for related projects but i know some other people think that the welcome page is too big already. opinions, anybody? - robert On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 01:29 PM, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: Hi, Robert and all. applied. many thanks. i hope you'll find some time to add something about BCEL (and maybe James too) to the next newsletter http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaNewsletterDrafts/Issue9. Thanks you very much. I confirmed. Sure, I will take care of the wiki if possible. Then, I created a new patch for 1. Correcting the order of James Released and Scalab released in other news section. 2. Adding Tapestry, in proposal, to the table of products list. 3. Creating new table for Ant, Avalon, DB, Incubator and James Projects (Jakarta-Related Projects). The look and feel of new index.html might be .. http://jakarta.terra-intl.com/index.en.html I think this will avoid the confusion for all the new comer to jakarta (and also for the elder, senior jakarta-n ;-) and will be easy introduction to the related (maybe merged into jakarta soon) projects. Sincerely, Tetsuya Kitahata [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Index: xdocs/index.xml === RCS file: /home/cvspublic/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v retrieving revision 1.188 diff -u -r1.188 index.xml --- xdocs/index.xml 24 May 2003 10:28:40 - 1.188 +++ xdocs/index.xml 24 May 2003 12:21:40 - @@ -57,9 +57,9 @@ and a href=site/elsewhere.htmlElsewhere/a/h4 ul lia href=site/news.html#20030522.122 May 2003 - b Jakarta Newsletter Issue 8/b Released/a/li +lia href=site/elsewhere.html#20030512.112 May 2003 - bJames 2.1.3 released./b/a/li lia href=site/elsewhere.html#20030505.15 May 2003 - bScarab 1.0 Beta 14/b Released By bTigris.org/b/a/li -lia href=site/elsewhere.html#20030512.112 May 2003 - bJames 2.1.3 released./b/a/li lia href=site/news.html#20030412.112 April 2003 - b POI Project News Feed/b/a/li lia href=site/elsewhere.html#200304099 April 2003 - bAnt 1.5.3 released./b/a/li lia href=site/elsewhere.html#200304088 April 2003 - bLDAPd 0.7 released./b/a/li @@ -69,12 +69,13 @@ section name=Products -pJakarta groups products in three general categories:/p +pJakarta groups products in four general categories:/p ul lia href=#toolsLibraries, Tools, and APIs/a/li lia href=#frameworksFrameworks and Engines/a/li lia href=#serversServer Applications/a/li -/ul +lia href=#proposalsProducts in Proposal/a/li +/ul table tr @@ -114,13 +115,6 @@ td valign=topA reliable, fast and extensible logging library for Java./td /tr tr -td align=right valign=topa href=http://db.apache.org/ojb;OJB/a :/td -td valign=top -ObJectRelationalBridge (OJB) is an Object/Relational mapping tool that -allows transparent persistence for Java Objects against relational databases. -/td -/tr -tr td align=right valign=topa href=./oro/index.htmlORO/a:/td td valign=topSet of text-processing Java classes that provide Perl5 compatible regular expressions, AWK-like regular expressions, glob expressions, and utility classes for performing substitutions, splits, filtering filenames, etc./td /tr @@ -146,10 +140,6 @@ th align=centerfont color=#ffstronga name=frameworksFrameworks and Engines/a/strong/font/th /tr tr -td align=right valign=topa href=http://avalon.apache.org/;Avalon/a:/td -td valign=topAvalon is component-oriented programming project consisting of: Framework, the core framework for COP; Excalibur, common utilities written as components; Phoenix, a server framework; Cornerstone, blocks for use in a Phoenix server; and, Logkit, logging facilities./td -/tr -tr td align=right valign=topa href=./cactus/index.htmlCactus/a:/td td valign=topCactus is a simple test framework for unit testing server-side Java code (servlets, EJBs, tag libraries, filters, ...)./td /tr @@ -192,10 +182,6 @@ td valign=topAlexandria is a CVS/Javadoc/Source code/Documentation management system meant for use within Open Source projects./td /tr tr -td align=right valign=topa href=http://james.apache.org/;James /a:/td -td valign=topJames is an email/news/messaging server written in Java. It uses the Avalon component framework. It currently supports SMTP, POP3 and NNTP with IMAP coming shortly./td -/tr -tr td align=right valign=topa href=./jetspeed/index.htmlJetspeed /a:/td td valign=topA Java user customizable portal system based Turbine framework/td /tr @@ -211,13 +197,90 @@ td align=right valign=topa href=./tomcat/index.htmlTomcat 4/a :/td td valign=topTomcat 4 is the official Reference Implementation of the Servlet 2.3 and JavaServer Pages 1.2 technologies./td /tr +tr +th/th +thfont color=#ffstronga name
February Newsletter - Call for content
Hi all, Could those that have items for the February newsletter try to get them to me in the next few days? If you haven't sent an item in before then let the respective dev list know that your doing it and send me the text (or a patch for the xdoc version once it's started). If you contributed last time round and don't feel a repeat effort coming on then letting the respective dev list know would be helpful to keep some sort of flow going. In terms of timescale I'll try and post drafts from Monday and hopefully arrive at a lazy concensus by Wednesday. Thanks in advance, Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003
Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 7 Date: January 2003 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200301.html The month has been quite busy for apache folks, with new apache projects, new jakarta subprojects and talk of even more. And to reassure you that the code is also coming along nicely, at least Lucene, Ant and HttpClient are expecting releases in the near future. As always, I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxspring Contents # General # Commons # db.apache.org # Lucene # POI General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring Robert Simmons kicked of a debate over the use of forum software to make it easier for users to get involved with jakarta subprojects [1,2]. The Jakarta developers seemed united in preferring mailing lists and pointed out archives [3] and services such as gmane [4] for more casual use of the lists. The Pluto subproject was proposed as a reference implementation of the Portlet API and was heavily discussed [5]. Relating to the portals theme, Charon was propsed ro implement the Web Services for Remote specification, although this recieved only a little discussion [6,7]. Dani Estermann asked for some advice on choosing a logging stratergy for future code. Some advocated using the JDK logging if Java 1.4 was guarenteed, others recommended using Log4j whatever the situation. It was also suggested that the use of a facade such as commons-logging should be limitted to situations where chioce is needed. Browse the archive for further detail [8]. Is it time for a new look Jakarta? Maybe a unified Apache site look and feel? Christoph Wilhelms suggested the use of his FakeForrest skin to give Jakarta a facelift [9]. This offers a Forrest[10] look a like and could act as a stepping stone towards the eventual use of forrest for the websites. Finally, several people have been elected as new members of the Jakarta PMC [11], they are: # Nicola Ken Barozzi # Robert Burrel Donkin # Stephen Colebourne # Martin Cooper # Henri Gomez # John Keyes # Larry Isaacs # Otis Gospodnetic # Thomas Mahler # Remy Maucherat # Glenn Nielsen # Andrew C Oliver # Rob Oxspring # Martin Poeschl # Scott Sanders # David Sean Taylor # Glen Stampoultzis # Mladen Turk # James Turner # Henri Yandell # [1] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=305266 # [2] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=309508 # [3] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ # [4] - http://www.gmane.org/ # [5] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=308677 # [6] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=308715 # [7] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=308716 # [8] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=314971 # [9] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=315699 # [10] - http://xml.apache.org/forrest/ # [11] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL PROTECTED]msgNo=14080 Commons === Due to the diverse nature of the commons group, this section has been split up to make it easier to pick out the topics of interest. This months stories come from the following: # Codec # HttpClient Codec - definitive implementations of common encodings Editor: Tim O'brien The codec project is alive again, and moving towards a release. Codec's short-term goals include: moving towards definitive implementations of common encodings such as Base64 and Hex, and developing a cohesive framework for expansion. HttpClient -- HttpClient provides client side HTTP 1.0/1.1 connectivity to any Java component Editor: Jeffrey Dever Release 2.0 Alpha 2! After many months and a great resurgence of developers, the new build of HttpClient is finally here. The new group of developers has done extensive refactoring to move the project along the new vision. The code base has reached a significant level of maturity and we expect that another released build (possibly a beta) will be ready near the end of February Also check out the new HttpClient logo on the website created by Jeff Dever with the Gimp! http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/ db.apache.org = Database Software Editior: Martin Poeschl The DB project was created to allow the collection of similar technologies into one larger subcommunity. The following jakarta projects moved to the db project # ojb # turbine-torque # commons-sql http://db.apache.org Lucene == A high-performance, full-featured
[DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003
Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 7 Date: January 2003 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200301.html The month has been quite busy for apache folks, with new apache projects, new jakarta subprojects and talk of even more. And to reassure you that the code is also coming along nicely, at least Lucene, Ant and HttpClient are expecting releases in the near future. As always, I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxspring Contents # General # Commons # db.apache.org # Lucene # POI General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring Robert Simmons kicked of a debate over the use of forum software to make it easier for users to get involved with jakarta subprojects [1,2]. The Jakarta developers seemed united in preferring mailing lists and pointed out archives [3] and services such as gmane [4] for more casual use of the lists. The Pluto subproject was proposed as a reference implementation of the Portlet API and was heavily discussed [5]. Relating to the portals theme, Charon was propsed ro implement the Web Services for Remote specification, although this recieved only a little discussion [6,7]. Dani Estermann asked for some advice on choosing a logging stratergy for future code. Some advocated using the JDK logging if Java 1.4 was guarenteed, others recommended using Log4j whatever the situation. It was also suggested that the use of a facade such as commons-logging should be limitted to situations where chioce is needed. Browse the archive for further detail [8]. Is it time for a new look Jakarta? Maybe a unified Apache site look and feel? Christoph Wilhelms suggested the use of his FakeForrest skin to give Jakarta a facelift [9]. This offers a Forrest[10] look a like and could act as a stepping stone towards the eventual use of forrest for the websites. Finally, several people have been elected as new members of the Jakarta PMC [11], they are: # Nicola Ken Barozzi # Robert Burrel Donkin # Stephen Colebourne # Martin Cooper # Henri Gomez # John Keyes # Larry Isaacs # Otis Gospodnetic # Thomas Mahler # Remy Maucherat # Glenn Nielsen # Andrew C Oliver # Rob Oxspring # Martin Poeschl # Scott Sanders # David Sean Taylor # Glen Stampoultzis # Mladen Turk # James Turner # Henri Yandell # [1] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=305266 # [2] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=309508 # [3] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ # [4] - http://www.gmane.org/ # [5] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=308677 # [6] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=308715 # [7] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=308716 # [8] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=314971 # [9] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=315699 # [10] - http://xml.apache.org/forrest/ # [11] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL PROTECTED]msgNo=14080 Commons === Due to the diverse nature of the commons group, this section has been split up to make it easier to pick out the topics of interest. This months stories come from the following: # Codec # HttpClient Codec - definitive implementations of common encodings Editor: Tim O'brien The codec project is alive again, and moving towards a release. Codec's short-term goals include: moving towards definitive implementations of common encodings such as Base64 and Hex, and developing a cohesive framework for expansion. HttpClient -- HttpClient provides client side HTTP 1.0/1.1 connectivity to any Java component Editor: Jeffrey Dever Release 2.0 Alpha 2! After many months and a great resurgence of developers, the new build of HttpClient is finally here. The new group of developers has done extensive refactoring to move the project along the new vision. The code base has reached a significant level of maturity and we expect that another released build (possibly a beta) will be ready near the end of February Also check out the new HttpClient logo on the website created by Jeff Dever with the Gimp! http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/ db.apache.org = Database Software Editior: Martin Poeschl The DB project was created to allow the collection of similar technologies into one larger subcommunity. The following jakarta projects moved to the db project # ojb # turbine-torque # commons-sql http://db.apache.org Lucene == A high-performance, full-featured
Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003
This does look to be a february item... I'm inclined to hang onto it for next time but if people disagree then we can whack it in. Thanks, Rob Daniel F. Savarese wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], robert burr ell donkin writes: (here's some bits and pieces from the commons.) Jakarta Commons === Although the newsletter is for January, here's another item for Jakarta Commons from February (Commons committers feel free to ammend this entry): Near the end of January, Robert Donkin jumpstarted Commons Net project by calling for a vote to promote it from the Commons Sandbox after a flurry of recent interest in releasing the current stable code base. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10437764903r=1w=2 The vote concluded in February, with the minimum number of +1's, an equal number of +0', and no -0's or -1's. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10443842365r=1w=2 The Jakarta Commons Team is pleased to announce that Commons Net (formerly NetComponents) has been promoted out of the sandbox into the Commons proper. Commons Net is best known for its FTP package, but it also implements a number of other Internet client protocols such as Finger, Whois, TFTP, Telnet, POP3, NNTP, SMTP, and some miscellaneous protocols like Time and Echo as well as BSD R command support. The first order of business for this Commons Net is to freeze the code and make a formal release that projects using earlier incarnations of the code, such as Ant, can migrate to. After this first release, further development will continue, adding new features, performance improvements, a test harness, and a programming guide to supplement the API documentation. Anyone interested in helping out is encouraged to contribute. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], robert burr ell donkin writes: (here's some bits and pieces from the commons.) Jakarta Commons === Although the newsletter is for January, here's another item for Jakarta Commons from February (Commons committers feel free to ammend this entry): Near the end of January, Robert Donkin jumpstarted Commons Net project by calling for a vote to promote it from the Commons Sandbox after a flurry of recent interest in releasing the current stable code base. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10437764903r=1w=2 The vote concluded in February, with the minimum number of +1's, an equal number of +0', and no -0's or -1's. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10443842365r=1w=2 The Jakarta Commons Team is pleased to announce that Commons Net (formerly NetComponents) has been promoted out of the sandbox into the Commons proper. Commons Net is best known for its FTP package, but it also implements a number of other Internet client protocols such as Finger, Whois, TFTP, Telnet, POP3, NNTP, SMTP, and some miscellaneous protocols like Time and Echo as well as BSD R command support. The first order of business for this Commons Net is to freeze the code and make a formal release that projects using earlier incarnations of the code, such as Ant, can migrate to. After this first release, further development will continue, adding new features, performance improvements, a test harness, and a programming guide to supplement the API documentation. Anyone interested in helping out is encouraged to contribute. msg07141/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Daniel F. Savarese writes: Although the newsletter is for January, here's another item for Jakarta Commons from February (Commons committers feel free to ammend this entry): Looks like I made some typing turds. Here's a corrected version: Near the end of January, Robert Donkin jumpstarted Commons Net by calling for a vote to promote it from the Commons Sandbox after a flurry of interest in releasing the current stable code base. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10437764903r=1w=2 The vote concluded in February, with the minimum number of +1's, an equal number of +0', and no -0's or -1's. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10443842365r=1w=2 The Jakarta Commons Team is pleased to announce that Commons Net (formerly NetComponents) has been promoted out of the sandbox into the Commons proper. Commons Net is best known for its FTP package, but it also implements a number of other Internet client protocols such as Finger, Whois, TFTP, Telnet, POP3, NNTP, SMTP, and some miscellaneous protocols like Time and Echo as well as BSD R command support. The first order of business for Commons Net is to freeze the code and make a formal release that projects using earlier incarnations of the code, such as Ant, can migrate to. After this first release, further development will continue, adding new features, performance improvements, a test harness, and a programming guide to supplement the API documentation. Anyone interested in helping out is encouraged to contribute. msg07142/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - August 2002
(here's some bits and pieces from the commons.) Jakarta Commons === The major subject for debate this month was the organization of the mailing lists (again): http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-devm=104376872026090w=2 Jexl Jexl was promoted from the Sandbox to the Commons this month. Jexl is a java expression language designed for easy embedding in applications and frameworks. It is an extension of the Expression Language of the JSTL (JSP Standard Tag Library). The motivation was to bring some of lessons learned by the Jakarta Velocity community about expression languages in templating to a wider audience. Those people familiar with Jelly will recognize this as the expression language used by Jelly. BeanUtils - Finally the promised 1.6 release! http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-devm=104319227016196w=2 This fixes a lot of bugs and rolls up the extra features add over the last few months. Unfortunately, some changes in this release effected some code used in maven and jelly. So expect a 1.6.1 release very soon. Digester The long awaited Digester 1.4 was released this month. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-devm=104430587104335w=2 This fixes several bugs but also has some important changes to the Rule interface that allow more sophisticated namespace-aware rules. Betwixt --- At last betwixt has a release - but it's only an alpha. There a lot o features on the to do list but first must come some internal refactoring. So, this is an alpha release since the internal API may need to change but hopefully the disruption to most users can be kept to a minimum. On a more light hearted note, it appears that betwixt now has some more competition: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-devm=104369586610737w=2 Jelly - Another busy month! Jelly has been successfully split into tag libraries and core: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-devm=104296001908752w=2 Release issues have been resolved one by one: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-devm=104353140304195w=2 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-devm=104335501905419 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-devm=104153070819002w=2 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=jakarta-commons-devm=104101557728040w=2 It's a long road but the end is now in sight. On Tuesday, September 3, 2002, at 12:44 PM, Rob Oxspring wrote: Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 3 Date: August 2002 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200208.html The third issue of the newsletter is upon us so lets have a look at what' s been happening; I've been given an apache account and so have been starting to beef up the newsletter archive page http://jakarta. apache.org/site/news/, hopefully I'll get around to a front page link soon to publicise this better. The Ant team have been resting themselves after a heavy couple of months, meanwhile the guys at Avalon have been writing C# code and the ObjectRelationalBridge developers have been tackling some bugs and features. Once again I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxspring Contents General Ant Avalon Commons Lucene ObJectRelationalBridge General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring The Gname effect was discussed at length thanks to a misdirected news posting from George Hester. The news - mail gateway is enabling people to discover and use the Jakarta mailing lists without having to look at the mailing lists guidelines [1]. A couple of solutions were offered namely adding usage information to the list's tagline, and blacklisting the gateways but no real conclusion was drawn [2]. Thanks to a couple of enterprising Japanese guys, a Japanese language version of the jakarta site is taking shape [3,4] and there was also some talk of how best to internationalise the site [5]. Sun's Scott McNealy expressed some controversial opinions about the open source approach. Sparks flew[6]. Can jakarta have members who are not linked to a particular subproject? Is the Jakarta-Site cvs module a subproject? should it be? and should it have different voting rights to the other subprojects? All these questions and more were posed and discussed with few conclusive answers forthcoming, see what you think [7]. [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html [2] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta. apache.orgfrom=210121to=210121count=27by=thread [3] - http://www.ingrid.org/jajakarta/index.html [4] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta. apache.orgby=threadfrom=219451 [5] - http
RE: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003
Here's some content: Commons Sandbox - Codec out of hiberna Tim O'Brien -Original Message- From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003 On Sun, 02 Feb 2003, Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: General Several people have been elected as new members of the Jakarta PMC, they are [1] Nicola Ken Barozzi Robert Burrel Donkin Stephen Colebourne Martin Cooper Henri Gomez John Keyes Larry Isaacs Otis Gospodnetic Thomas Mahler Remy Maucherat Glenn Nielsen Andrew C Oliver Rob Oxspring Martin Poeschl Scott Sanders David Sean Taylor Glen Stampoultzis Mladen Turk James Turner Henri Yandell Footnotes: [1] http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=general@ jakarta.apache.orgmsgNo=14080 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003
Jakarta Commons Codec :) On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, O'brien, Tim wrote: Ooops, that damn send button. Here's some short content, maybe it can go in a notices section: codec is alive again, and moving towards a release. codec's short-term goals include: moving towards definitive implementations of common encodings such as Base64 and Hex, and developing a cohesive framework for expansion. Tim O'Brien -Original Message- From: Tim O'Brien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:33 PM To: 'Jakarta General List' Subject: RE: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003 Here's some content: Commons Sandbox - Codec out of hiberna Tim O'Brien -Original Message- From: Stefan Bodewig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 1:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003 On Sun, 02 Feb 2003, Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: General Several people have been elected as new members of the Jakarta PMC, they are [1] Nicola Ken Barozzi Robert Burrel Donkin Stephen Colebourne Martin Cooper Henri Gomez John Keyes Larry Isaacs Otis Gospodnetic Thomas Mahler Remy Maucherat Glenn Nielsen Andrew C Oliver Rob Oxspring Martin Poeschl Scott Sanders David Sean Taylor Glen Stampoultzis Mladen Turk James Turner Henri Yandell Footnotes: [1] http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=general@ jakarta.apache.orgmsgNo=14080 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003
Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 7 Date: January 2003 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200301.html TODO Contents General Lucene General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring Robert Simmons kicked of a debate over the use of forum software to make it easier for users to get involved with jakarta subprojects [1,2]. The Jakarta developers seemed united in preferring mailing lists and pointed out archives [3] and services such as gmane [4] for more casual use of the lists. The Pluto subproject was proposed as a reference implementation of the Portlet API and was heavily discussed [5]. Relating to the portals theme, Charon was propsed ro implement the Web Services for Remote specification, although this recieved only a little discussion [6,7]. Dani Estermann asked for some advice on choosing a logging stratergy for future code. Some advocated using the JDK logging if Java 1.4 was guarenteed, others recommended using Log4j whatever the situation. It was also suggested that the use of a facade such as commons-logging should be limitted to situations where chioce is needed. Browse the archive for further detail [8]. Is it time for a new look Jakarta? Maybe a unified Apache site look and feel? Christoph Wilhelms suggested the use of his FakeForrest skin to give Jakarta a facelift [9]. This offers a Forrest[10] look a like and could act as a stepping stone towards the eventual use of forrest for the websites. [1] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=305266 [2] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=309508 [3] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ [4] - http://www.gmane.org/ [5] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=308677 [6] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=308715 [7] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=308716 [8] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=314971 [9] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=315699 [10] - http://xml.apache.org/forrest/ Lucene == A high-performance, full-featured text search engine Editor: Otis Gospodnetic This month's notes come straight from Lucene's CHANGES.txt file. In addition to that I'll only mention that the Lucene team is preparing for packaging the first release candidate for the 1.3 release. a. Queries are no longer modified during a search. This makes it possible, e.g., to reuse the same query instance with multiple indexes from multiple threads. b. Term-expanding queries (e.g. PrefixQuery, WildcardQuery, etc.) now work correctly with MultiSearcher, fixing bugs 12619 and 12667. c. Boosting BooleanQuery's now works, and is supported by the query parser (problem reported by Lee Mallabone). Thus a query like (+foo +bar)^2 +baz is now supported and equivalent to (+foo^2 +bar^2) +baz. d. New method: Query.rewrite(IndexReader). This permits a query to re-write itself as an alternate, more primitive query. Most of the term-expanding query classes (PrefixQuery, WildcardQuery, etc.) are now implemented using this method. e. New method: Searchable.explain(Query q, int doc). This returns an Explanation instance that describes how a particular document is scored against a query. An explanation can be displayed as either plain text, with the toString() method, or as HTML, with the toHtml() method. Note that computing an explanation is as expensive as executing the query over the entire index. This is intended to be used in developing Similarity implementations, and, for good performance, should not be displayed with every hit. f. Scorer and Weight are public, not package protected. It now possible for someone to write a Scorer implementation that is not in the org.apache.lucene.search package. This is still fairly advanced programming, and I don't expect anyone to do this anytime soon, but at least now it is possible. g. Added public accessors to the primitive query classes (TermQuery, PhraseQuery and BooleanQuery), permitting access to their terms and clauses. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003
Okay people time to add your stuff. As per usual I've CCd the previous contributers in the hope that they'll either contribute again or talk someone on their projects into taking over. If you want to write up the months gossip for a project then send it to me and I'll include it, its probably best to let the appropriate dev list know so that duplicated work can be avoided. I'm going to be offline for the next week so won't be able to respond to questions or conrtibutions but I'm sure people on the general list will be able to resolve any issues. I'll aim to collate all the input on the afternoon of the 9th and post another draft then. Thanks in advance, Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003
Commons HttpClient Release 2.0 Alpha 2! After many months and a great resurgence of developers, the new build of /HttpClient/ is finally here. The new group of developers has done extensive refactoring to move the project along the new vision. The code base has reached a significant level of maturity and we expect that another released build (possibly a beta) will be ready near the end of February Also check out the new /HttpClient/ logo on the website created by Jeff Dever with the Gimp! http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/ Rob Oxspring wrote: Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 7 Date: January 2003 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200301.html TODO Contents General Lucene General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring Robert Simmons kicked of a debate over the use of forum software to make it easier for users to get involved with jakarta subprojects [1,2]. The Jakarta developers seemed united in preferring mailing lists and pointed out archives [3] and services such as gmane [4] for more casual use of the lists. The Pluto subproject was proposed as a reference implementation of the Portlet API and was heavily discussed [5]. Relating to the portals theme, Charon was propsed ro implement the Web Services for Remote specification, although this recieved only a little discussion [6,7]. Dani Estermann asked for some advice on choosing a logging stratergy for future code. Some advocated using the JDK logging if Java 1.4 was guarenteed, others recommended using Log4j whatever the situation. It was also suggested that the use of a facade such as commons-logging should be limitted to situations where chioce is needed. Browse the archive for further detail [8]. Is it time for a new look Jakarta? Maybe a unified Apache site look and feel? Christoph Wilhelms suggested the use of his FakeForrest skin to give Jakarta a facelift [9]. This offers a Forrest[10] look a like and could act as a stepping stone towards the eventual use of forrest for the websites. [1] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=305266 [2] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=309508 [3] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ [4] - http://www.gmane.org/ [5] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=308677 [6] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=308715 [7] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=308716 [8] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=314971 [9] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=315699 [10] - http://xml.apache.org/forrest/ Lucene == A high-performance, full-featured text search engine Editor: Otis Gospodnetic This month's notes come straight from Lucene's CHANGES.txt file. In addition to that I'll only mention that the Lucene team is preparing for packaging the first release candidate for the 1.3 release. a. Queries are no longer modified during a search. This makes it possible, e.g., to reuse the same query instance with multiple indexes from multiple threads. b. Term-expanding queries (e.g. PrefixQuery, WildcardQuery, etc.) now work correctly with MultiSearcher, fixing bugs 12619 and 12667. c. Boosting BooleanQuery's now works, and is supported by the query parser (problem reported by Lee Mallabone). Thus a query like (+foo +bar)^2 +baz is now supported and equivalent to (+foo^2 +bar^2) +baz. d. New method: Query.rewrite(IndexReader). This permits a query to re-write itself as an alternate, more primitive query. Most of the term-expanding query classes (PrefixQuery, WildcardQuery, etc.) are now implemented using this method. e. New method: Searchable.explain(Query q, int doc). This returns an Explanation instance that describes how a particular document is scored against a query. An explanation can be displayed as either plain text, with the toString() method, or as HTML, with the toHtml() method. Note that computing an explanation is as expensive as executing the query over the entire index. This is intended to be used in developing Similarity implementations, and, for good performance, should not be displayed with every hit. f. Scorer and Weight are public, not package protected. It now possible for someone to write a Scorer implementation that is not in the org.apache.lucene.search package. This is still fairly advanced programming, and I don't expect anyone to do this anytime soon, but at least now it is possible. g. Added public accessors to the primitive query classes (TermQuery, PhraseQuery and BooleanQuery), permitting access to their terms and clauses. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL
Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003
Rob, do you want updates emailed to you, posted to the list, entered in the wiki?? -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Blog: http://www.freeroller.net/page/dion/Weblog Work: http://www.multitask.com.au Jeffrey Dever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 03/02/2003 11:24:27 AM: Commons HttpClient Release 2.0 Alpha 2! After many months and a great resurgence of developers, the new build of /HttpClient/ is finally here. The new group of developers has done extensive refactoring to move the project along the new vision. The code base has reached a significant level of maturity and we expect that another released build (possibly a beta) will be ready near the end of February Also check out the new /HttpClient/ logo on the website created by Jeff Dever with the Gimp! http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/httpclient/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003
On Sun, 02 Feb 2003, Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: General Several people have been elected as new members of the Jakarta PMC, they are [1] Nicola Ken Barozzi Robert Burrel Donkin Stephen Colebourne Martin Cooper Henri Gomez John Keyes Larry Isaacs Otis Gospodnetic Thomas Mahler Remy Maucherat Glenn Nielsen Andrew C Oliver Rob Oxspring Martin Poeschl Scott Sanders David Sean Taylor Glen Stampoultzis Mladen Turk James Turner Henri Yandell Footnotes: [1] http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL PROTECTED]msgNo=14080 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[DRAFT] Jakarta Newsletter - December 2002
Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 6 Date: December 2002 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200212.html As you would expect of the holiday season, not a lot was happening at Jakarta other than some discussion, and the usual steady progress in a number of projects. This issue has been delayed somewhat due to commitments to my real work, but the next issue will hopefully be a little more feature rich and prompt as plenty seems to be happening already! As always, I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxspring Contents General Lucene POI General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring if continuous integration is a good thing on a small project, why not apply it recursively and include all dependencies for which access to source is provided This has been the reasoning behind Gump [1] and since so many Jakarta folk agreed [2] it was decided to promote Gump from within alexandria to be a first class Jakarta subproject. Gump was promoted out of alexandria to be a jakarta subproject. Gump had been used to build all the latest versions of the jakarta code for a long time now, and does a great job of keeping the developers on their toes and helps maintain a high level of interoperability between subprojects. For those that like Wikis, the turbine team talked us into starting up our very own. As usual there was plenty of discussion about the pros and cons, and plenty about the implementation [3,4] but Andy Oliver decided to get the ball rolling with a simple system with minimal administration needs [5]. Should Apache move into the world of C#? Does the JCP do Java any favours? These are the general themes of this months big thread and since both topics repeatedly come up at Jakarta, it will come as no surprise to learn that opinions are mixed and conclusions are some time off. Still, its always fun guessing which way to jump! [6,7] [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/gump/ [2] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=296622 [3] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=294885 [4] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=295289 [5] - http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi [6] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=287011 [7] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=286144 Lucene == a high-performance, full-featured text search engine Editor: Otis Gospodnetic Doug Cutting added Snowball Stemmers[1] to Lucene Sandbox Repository[2]. Snowball[3] is a small string processing language designed for creating stemming algorithms for use in Information Retrieval. Snowball Stemmers for Lucene project provides pre-compiled version of the Snowball stemmers together with classes integrating them with the Lucene search engine. Previously Lucene supported only English, German, and Russian. Lucene users can now make use of the code provided by this new project and gain support for the following languages: Danish Dutch English Finnish French German Italian Norwegian Portuguese Russian Spanish Swedish [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/lucene-sandbox/snowball/ [2] - http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/lucene-sandbox/ [3] - http://snowball.tartarus.org/ POI === APIs for manipulating various file formats based upon Microsoft's OLE 2 Compound Document format Editor: Glen Stampoultzis Patch for custom palettes received. [1] Andy created a patch for a proposed refactoring of the EventRecordFactory. [2]. Ken was rather busy converting Poi to the latest and greatest Centipede. release and making it all run under gump. [3] Some idea's on refactoring the formula parser were discussed. [4] Ken let us in on the correct way to do releases. [5] Patch for recalc record comitted [6] Support for horizontal centering during print [7] Add support for setting the active cell in a worksheet through usermodel [8] [1] - http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15743 [2] - http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15660 [3] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=poi-devm=104065623 922418w=2 [4] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10397344191r=1w =2 [5] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=poi-devm=103911596 709970w=2 [6] - http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13500 [7] - http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15677 [8] - http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15537 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail
RE: [DRAFT] Jakarta Newsletter - December 2002
Sorry if there are a couple of copies of the draft posted - mail provider has just been having a bit of a hiccup and I'm not sure whats getting through yet. If you have any comments / corrections / additions for this issue then please send them, I'll wait at least 24 hrs before posting the final copy - but assuming all is well I'll get it out the door within 48. As ever if you want to contribute but don't like the timescale then let me know within it and we'll see what can be done. Rob -Original Message- From: Rob Oxspring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 January 2003 22:40 To: 'Jakarta General List' Subject: [DRAFT] Jakarta Newsletter - December 2002 Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 6 Date: December 2002 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200212.html As you would expect of the holiday season, not a lot was happening at Jakarta other than some discussion, and the usual steady progress in a number of projects. This issue has been delayed somewhat due to commitments to my real work, but the next issue will hopefully be a little more feature rich and prompt as plenty seems to be happening already! As always, I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxspring Contents General Lucene POI General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring if continuous integration is a good thing on a small project, why not apply it recursively and include all dependencies for which access to source is provided This has been the reasoning behind Gump [1] and since so many Jakarta folk agreed [2] it was decided to promote Gump from within alexandria to be a first class Jakarta subproject. Gump was promoted out of alexandria to be a jakarta subproject. Gump had been used to build all the latest versions of the jakarta code for a long time now, and does a great job of keeping the developers on their toes and helps maintain a high level of interoperability between subprojects. For those that like Wikis, the turbine team talked us into starting up our very own. As usual there was plenty of discussion about the pros and cons, and plenty about the implementation [3,4] but Andy Oliver decided to get the ball rolling with a simple system with minimal administration needs [5]. Should Apache move into the world of C#? Does the JCP do Java any favours? These are the general themes of this months big thread and since both topics repeatedly come up at Jakarta, it will come as no surprise to learn that opinions are mixed and conclusions are some time off. Still, its always fun guessing which way to jump! [6,7] [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/gump/ [2] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=gener al@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=296622 [3] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=gener al@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=294885 [4] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=gener al@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=295289 [5] - http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi [6] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=gener al@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=287011 [7] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=gener al@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=286144 Lucene == a high-performance, full-featured text search engine Editor: Otis Gospodnetic Doug Cutting added Snowball Stemmers[1] to Lucene Sandbox Repository[2]. Snowball[3] is a small string processing language designed for creating stemming algorithms for use in Information Retrieval. Snowball Stemmers for Lucene project provides pre-compiled version of the Snowball stemmers together with classes integrating them with the Lucene search engine. Previously Lucene supported only English, German, and Russian. Lucene users can now make use of the code provided by this new project and gain support for the following languages: Danish Dutch English Finnish French German Italian Norwegian Portuguese Russian Spanish Swedish [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/lucene-sandbox/snowball/ [2] - http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/lucene-sandbox/ [3] - http://snowball.tartarus.org/ POI === APIs for manipulating various file formats based upon Microsoft's OLE 2 Compound Document format Editor: Glen Stampoultzis Patch for custom palettes received. [1] Andy created a patch for a proposed refactoring of the EventRecordFactory. [2]. Ken was rather busy converting Poi to the latest and greatest Centipede. release
[DRAFT] Jakarta Newsletter - December 2002
Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 6 Date: December 2002 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200212.html As you would expect of the holiday season, not a lot was happening at Jakarta other than some discussion, and the usual steady progress in a number of projects. This issue has been delayed somewhat due to commitments to my real work, but the next issue will hopefully be a little more feature rich and prompt as plenty seems to be happening already! As always, I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxspring Contents General Lucene POI General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring if continuous integration is a good thing on a small project, why not apply it recursively and include all dependencies for which access to source is provided This has been the reasoning behind Gump [1] and since so many Jakarta folk agreed [2] it was decided to promote Gump from within alexandria to be a first class Jakarta subproject. Gump was promoted out of alexandria to be a jakarta subproject. Gump had been used to build all the latest versions of the jakarta code for a long time now, and does a great job of keeping the developers on their toes and helps maintain a high level of interoperability between subprojects. For those that like Wikis, the turbine team talked us into starting up our very own. As usual there was plenty of discussion about the pros and cons, and plenty about the implementation [3,4] but Andy Oliver decided to get the ball rolling with a simple system with minimal administration needs [5]. Should Apache move into the world of C#? Does the JCP do Java any favours? These are the general themes of this months big thread and since both topics repeatedly come up at Jakarta, it will come as no surprise to learn that opinions are mixed and conclusions are some time off. Still, its always fun guessing which way to jump! [6,7] [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/gump/ [2] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=296622 [3] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=294885 [4] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=295289 [5] - http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi [6] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=287011 [7] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=286144 Lucene == a high-performance, full-featured text search engine Editor: Otis Gospodnetic Doug Cutting added Snowball Stemmers[1] to Lucene Sandbox Repository[2]. Snowball[3] is a small string processing language designed for creating stemming algorithms for use in Information Retrieval. Snowball Stemmers for Lucene project provides pre-compiled version of the Snowball stemmers together with classes integrating them with the Lucene search engine. Previously Lucene supported only English, German, and Russian. Lucene users can now make use of the code provided by this new project and gain support for the following languages: Danish Dutch English Finnish French German Italian Norwegian Portuguese Russian Spanish Swedish [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/lucene-sandbox/snowball/ [2] - http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/lucene-sandbox/ [3] - http://snowball.tartarus.org/ POI === APIs for manipulating various file formats based upon Microsoft's OLE 2 Compound Document format Editor: Glen Stampoultzis Patch for custom palettes received. [1] Andy created a patch for a proposed refactoring of the EventRecordFactory. [2]. Ken was rather busy converting Poi to the latest and greatest Centipede. release and making it all run under gump. [3] Some idea's on refactoring the formula parser were discussed. [4] Ken let us in on the correct way to do releases. [5] Patch for recalc record comitted [6] Support for horizontal centering during print [7] Add support for setting the active cell in a worksheet through usermodel [8] [1] - http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15743 [2] - http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15660 [3] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=poi-devm=104065623 922418w=2 [4] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10397344191r=1w =2 [5] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=poi-devm=103911596 709970w=2 [6] - http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13500 [7] - http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15677 [8] - http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15537 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail
Re: [DRAFT] Jakarta Newsletter - December 2002
Shows you who the good guys are ;-) Rob Oxspring wrote: Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 6 Date: December 2002 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200212.html As you would expect of the holiday season, not a lot was happening at Jakarta other than some discussion, and the usual steady progress in a number of projects. This issue has been delayed somewhat due to commitments to my real work, but the next issue will hopefully be a little more feature rich and prompt as plenty seems to be happening already! As always, I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxspring Contents General Lucene POI General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring if continuous integration is a good thing on a small project, why not apply it recursively and include all dependencies for which access to source is provided This has been the reasoning behind Gump [1] and since so many Jakarta folk agreed [2] it was decided to promote Gump from within alexandria to be a first class Jakarta subproject. Gump was promoted out of alexandria to be a jakarta subproject. Gump had been used to build all the latest versions of the jakarta code for a long time now, and does a great job of keeping the developers on their toes and helps maintain a high level of interoperability between subprojects. For those that like Wikis, the turbine team talked us into starting up our very own. As usual there was plenty of discussion about the pros and cons, and plenty about the implementation [3,4] but Andy Oliver decided to get the ball rolling with a simple system with minimal administration needs [5]. Should Apache move into the world of C#? Does the JCP do Java any favours? These are the general themes of this months big thread and since both topics repeatedly come up at Jakarta, it will come as no surprise to learn that opinions are mixed and conclusions are some time off. Still, its always fun guessing which way to jump! [6,7] [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/gump/ [2] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=296622 [3] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=294885 [4] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=295289 [5] - http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi [6] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=287011 [7] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general@jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=286144 Lucene == a high-performance, full-featured text search engine Editor: Otis Gospodnetic Doug Cutting added Snowball Stemmers[1] to Lucene Sandbox Repository[2]. Snowball[3] is a small string processing language designed for creating stemming algorithms for use in Information Retrieval. Snowball Stemmers for Lucene project provides pre-compiled version of the Snowball stemmers together with classes integrating them with the Lucene search engine. Previously Lucene supported only English, German, and Russian. Lucene users can now make use of the code provided by this new project and gain support for the following languages: Danish Dutch English Finnish French German Italian Norwegian Portuguese Russian Spanish Swedish [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/lucene-sandbox/snowball/ [2] - http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/lucene-sandbox/ [3] - http://snowball.tartarus.org/ POI === APIs for manipulating various file formats based upon Microsoft's OLE 2 Compound Document format Editor: Glen Stampoultzis Patch for custom palettes received. [1] Andy created a patch for a proposed refactoring of the EventRecordFactory. [2]. Ken was rather busy converting Poi to the latest and greatest Centipede. release and making it all run under gump. [3] Some idea's on refactoring the formula parser were discussed. [4] Ken let us in on the correct way to do releases. [5] Patch for recalc record comitted [6] Support for horizontal centering during print [7] Add support for setting the active cell in a worksheet through usermodel [8] [1] - http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15743 [2] - http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15660 [3] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=poi-devm=104065623 922418w=2 [4] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10397344191r=1w =2 [5] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=poi-devm=103911596 709970w=2 [6] - http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13500 [7] - http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15677 [8] - http://nagoya.apache.org
Re: Newsletter - Request for content
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reduce the frequency - every 2 months has been suggested before. Has that helped to get more content into the October issue? Widen the scope - ant and Avalon have grown up to be (at least partially) outside the jakarta scope, should we include xml.apache.org? You could invite them (and anybody else) and add news for whatever (sub)project has provided input. Maybe its fine as it is? To me it is, thanks a lot. Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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As you can see the timetable has slipped a bit! However, there doesn't seem to be a lot to go in this issue (just an entry for lucene + whatever I write to summarise general@) and I was wondering whether it was worth bothering with. I realise this is to be expected with the Christmas / New Year but there has been a general decline in content volume over the months and I was wondering whether there was something that should be done to address this. A number of thoughts have been mentioned by various people and I'd be interested to hear opinions: Reduce the frequency - every 2 months has been suggested before. Format revamp - no idea how but ideas welcome - perhaps new blood is required? Widen the scope - ant and Avalon have grown up to be (at least partially) outside the jakarta scope, should we include xml.apache.org? and it's children? maybe just a simple *.apache.org? (with some appropriate rename) Maybe its fine as it is? Thanks, Rob - Original Message - From: Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jakarta General List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'James Strachan' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Henri Yandell' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Conor MacNeill' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Stefan Bodewig' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Otis Gospodnetic' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'David Sean Taylor' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Martin Poeschl' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:30 PM Subject: Newsletter - Request for content The end of the month is approaching again and I'm sure that, like me, a lot of you are focused on celebrating the new year. Once all that is over I'd like to post the December issue of the newsletter so if people can send any reports to me that would be great. Everyone is welcome to send summaries of any jakarta issues, those CC'd are so since they posted last time and are asked for a repeat effort or to try and prod others on the respective lists into taking over. In terms of timescale I'd like to pull the drafts together next weekend and post as soon as additions stop trickling in. If the timescale doesn't suit but you'd like to contribute then give me an idea of you'll have something ready and we can discuss how long we can wait. In the meantime, thanks everyone and Happy New Year! Rob P.S. Big thanks to Otis for beating the content request! As usual! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Rob Oxspring wrote: Reduce the frequency - every 2 months has been suggested before. If you have the energy, 1 month is nice. PArtecipating is not compulsory, so some projects may do it with less frequency. Format revamp - no idea how but ideas welcome - perhaps new blood is required? I like the format :-) Widen the scope - ant and Avalon have grown up to be (at least partially) outside the jakarta scope, should we include xml.apache.org? and it's children? maybe just a simple *.apache.org? (with some appropriate rename) If you have energy to bring in the xml.apache projects it would be great! Then others too, but maybe one step at a time could help. Maybe its fine as it is? Your work is very much appreciated :-) -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 12:46:25PM -, Rob Oxspring wrote: As you can see the timetable has slipped a bit! However, there doesn't seem to be a lot to go in this issue (just an entry for lucene + whatever I write to summarise general@) and I was wondering whether it was worth bothering with. I realise this is to be expected with the Christmas / New Year but there has been a general decline in content volume over the months and I was wondering whether there was something that should be done to address this. A number of thoughts have been mentioned by various people and I'd be interested to hear opinions: Reduce the frequency - every 2 months has been suggested before. Format revamp - no idea how but ideas welcome - perhaps new blood is required? How about setting up an 'ApacheNewsletter' Wiki page, let content accumulate, and publish once critical mass is achieved? I'd imagine that writing a newsletter entry is no fun at all. Probably each project has only 2 or 3 people with a broad enough understanding of the issues to 'summarize' a month's communications, identifying the signal amongst the noise. It's also a rather subjective task, with a high risk of offending someone by omitting or misrepresenting points. Using a Wiki doesn't solve the hard problems, but does lower the barrier to entry, and makes plain that it's everyone's problem to create content, not just the dedicated few listed below. Widen the scope - ant and Avalon have grown up to be (at least partially) outside the jakarta scope, should we include xml.apache.org? and it's children? maybe just a simple *.apache.org? I know Forrest has a willing contributor :) and I'm sure with some arm-twisting, one could be found for Cocoon. --Jeff (with some appropriate rename) Maybe its fine as it is? Thanks, Rob - Original Message - From: Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Jakarta General List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'James Strachan' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Henri Yandell' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Conor MacNeill' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Stefan Bodewig' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Otis Gospodnetic' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'David Sean Taylor' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Martin Poeschl' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 2:30 PM Subject: Newsletter - Request for content ... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The end of the month is approaching again and I'm sure that, like me, a lot of you are focused on celebrating the new year. Once all that is over I'd like to post the December issue of the newsletter so if people can send any reports to me that would be great. Everyone is welcome to send summaries of any jakarta issues, those CC'd are so since they posted last time and are asked for a repeat effort or to try and prod others on the respective lists into taking over. In terms of timescale I'd like to pull the drafts together next weekend and post as soon as additions stop trickling in. If the timescale doesn't suit but you'd like to contribute then give me an idea of you'll have something ready and we can discuss how long we can wait. In the meantime, thanks everyone and Happy New Year! Rob P.S. Big thanks to Otis for beating the content request! As usual! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - November 2002
Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 5 Date: November 2002 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200211.html It has been a quiet month. Commons has killed on old component and welcomed a new one, while other components have kept up fixes, features and releases. Elsewhere there has been more discussion about the infrastructure and community at Apache, and an attempt to be helpful to those developers using IDEs As always, I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxspring Contents General Ant Commons Jetspeed Lucene General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring Andrew Oliver decided to do something about the Java developers who cut their teeth on IDEs and don't understand the intricacies of the command line tools that are used under the hood. The page [1] was welcomed by many and was rapidly expanded [2] and should hopefully be a resource useful to a wide range of developers. Duplicated or pointless import statements appear over time in most Java code. This is an issue that Tom Copeland wanted to tackle, and sparked a few iterations [3] of the bad imports report [4]. [1] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]from=281536to=281536count=39by=threadpaged=f alse [2] - http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idedevelopers.html [3] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=271386 [4] - http://cvs.apache.org/~tcopeland/jakarta_bad_imports.htm Ant === Apache Ant is a Java-based build tool Editor: Stefan Bodewig The biggest news in Ant land is that Ant has been promoted to a top-level project at the board meeting in November. Much of the discussion on ant-dev has been centered around the proposed board resolution, the formation of the initial PMC and similar issues during the last months. [1,2,3] While Ant is leaving the oversight of the Jakarta PMC with this move, Ant's committers are not necessarily leaving the Jakarta community, many of us will still be around and contribute where we see fit. After the release of Ant 1.5.1 at the beginning of October, we've kept on fixing smaller bugs in the 1.5 branch, so a 1.5.2 release is getting more likely. At the same time, development in the HEAD branch is picking up momentum again as we start adding new features and experiment with some stuff [4,5] The Ant GUI, Antidote, is being revived and discussions are getting underway on the Ant-dev mailing list. If anyone wants to get involved in this project, they are most welcome. [1] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10365883356r=1w=2 [2] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10370221362r=1w=2 [3] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10377858962r=1w=2 [4] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10383492934r=1w=2 [5] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10383442511r=1w=2 Commons === creating and maintaining reusable Java components Editor: Henri Yandell Releases November saw the release of two new projects from Jakarta Commons, and the release of a bugfix for another project. Commons Validator 1.0 was mentioned in the previous newsletter. It was released on November 1st and is a validation framework from the Struts people. Commons CLI 1.0 was released on the 6th of November and is an API for parsing command line arguments. It is the direct descendant of 3 older argument parsing APIs and other APIs have affected it over mail list discussions. This gives it a very high pedigree and makes it a great choice for handling the command line. Commons Lang 1.0.1 is the first bugfix release for the Lang project. There are no new APIs or deprecated functionality, so all Commons Lang users are advised to upgrade, although the bugfixes are not earth-shattering. [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-commons/release/commons-validator/v1.0/RELEASE-NOTES.txt [2] - http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-commons/release/commons-cli/v1.0/RELEASE-NOTES.txt [3] - http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-commons/release/commons-lang/v1.0.1/RELEASE-NOTES.txt Gossip -- November was quiet for Commons, as it was for all of Apache. Indeed, the Commons mail list dropped by 35%. The Patterns project in the Sandbox has been mothballed as its code is to go into Commons Lang and Commons Util. Work has begun on moving the BeanUtils reflection code over to Commons Lang and various BeanUtils bugs were dealt with. A new database utility project has been proposed with generic JDBC(tm) utilities and lives under the name of 'DbUtils' in the sandbox and a project named 'attributes' has been proposed to handle runtime metadata attributes. [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/attributes
Re: [DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - November 2002
could you please add the following section about turbine? thanx Martin Turbine == The Turbine Team released the final releases of Turbine 2.2 and Torque 3.0. A list of changes can be found on the web-site http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine-2/changes.html http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/torque/changes.html The distributions are available at: http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-turbine/turbine-2/release/2.2/ http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-turbine/torque/release/3.0/ http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-turbine/tdk/release/2.2/ Rob Oxspring wrote: Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 5 Date: November 2002 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200211.html It has been a quiet month. Commons has killed on old component and welcomed a new one, while other components have kept up fixes, features and releases. Elsewhere there has been more discussion about the infrastructure and community at Apache, and an attempt to be helpful to those developers using IDEs As always, I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxspring Contents General Ant Commons Jetspeed Lucene General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring Andrew Oliver decided to do something about the Java developers who cut their teeth on IDEs and don't understand the intricacies of the command line tools that are used under the hood. The page [1] was welcomed by many and was rapidly expanded [2] and should hopefully be a resource useful to a wide range of developers. Duplicated or pointless import statements appear over time in most Java code. This is an issue that Tom Copeland wanted to tackle, and sparked a few iterations [3] of the bad imports report [4]. [1] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]from=281536to=281536count=39by=threadpaged=f alse [2] - http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idedevelopers.html [3] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=271386 [4] - http://cvs.apache.org/~tcopeland/jakarta_bad_imports.htm Ant === Apache Ant is a Java-based build tool Editor: Stefan Bodewig The biggest news in Ant land is that Ant has been promoted to a top-level project at the board meeting in November. Much of the discussion on ant-dev has been centered around the proposed board resolution, the formation of the initial PMC and similar issues during the last months. [1,2,3] While Ant is leaving the oversight of the Jakarta PMC with this move, Ant's committers are not necessarily leaving the Jakarta community, many of us will still be around and contribute where we see fit. After the release of Ant 1.5.1 at the beginning of October, we've kept on fixing smaller bugs in the 1.5 branch, so a 1.5.2 release is getting more likely. At the same time, development in the HEAD branch is picking up momentum again as we start adding new features and experiment with some stuff [4,5] The Ant GUI, Antidote, is being revived and discussions are getting underway on the Ant-dev mailing list. If anyone wants to get involved in this project, they are most welcome. [1] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10365883356r=1w=2 [2] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10370221362r=1w=2 [3] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10377858962r=1w=2 [4] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10383492934r=1w=2 [5] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10383442511r=1w=2 Commons === creating and maintaining reusable Java components Editor: Henri Yandell Releases November saw the release of two new projects from Jakarta Commons, and the release of a bugfix for another project. Commons Validator 1.0 was mentioned in the previous newsletter. It was released on November 1st and is a validation framework from the Struts people. Commons CLI 1.0 was released on the 6th of November and is an API for parsing command line arguments. It is the direct descendant of 3 older argument parsing APIs and other APIs have affected it over mail list discussions. This gives it a very high pedigree and makes it a great choice for handling the command line. Commons Lang 1.0.1 is the first bugfix release for the Lang project. There are no new APIs or deprecated functionality, so all Commons Lang users are advised to upgrade, although the bugfixes are not earth-shattering. [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-commons/release/commons-validator/v1.0/RELEASE-NOTES.txt [2] - http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-commons/release/commons-cli/v1.0/RELEASE-NOTES.txt [3] - http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-commons/release/commons-lang/v1.0.1/RELEASE-NOTES.txt Gossip -- November was quiet for Commons, as it was for all of Apache
Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - November 2002
Don't suppose you'd consider putting a link to XMLUnit http://xmlunit.sf.net/ in the Jelly section. It's always good to try a bit of shameless publicity seeking ;-) -- Jeff Martin Memetic Engineer http://www.custommonkey.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jeff Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't suppose you'd consider putting a link to XMLUnit http://xmlunit.sf.net/ in the Jelly section. It's always good to try a bit of shameless publicity seeking ;-) Its pretty well hidden, but there is a link in the Jelly tag reference... http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/jelly/tags.html#jelly:xmlunit as well as in the javadoc http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/jelly/apidocs/org/apache/commons/j elly/tags/xmlunit/package-summary.html so there is at least some XMLUnit publicity there :-) James --- http://radio.weblogs.com/0112098/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - November 2002
Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 5 Date: November 2002 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200211.html It has been a quiet month. Commons has killed on old component and welcomed a new one, while other components have kept up fixes, features and releases. Elsewhere there has been more discussion about the infrastructure and community at Apache, and an attempt to be helpful to those developers using IDEs As always, I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxspring Contents General Commons General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring Andrew Oliver decided to do something about the Java developers who cut their teeth on IDEs and don't understand the intricacies of the command line tools that are used under the hood. The page [1] was welcomed by many and was rapidly expanded [2] and should hopefully be a resource useful to a wide range of developers. Duplicated or pointless import statements appear over time in most Java code. This is an issue that Tom Copeland wanted to tackle, and sparked a few iterations [3] of the bad imports report [4]. [1] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]from=281536to=281536count=39by=threadpaged=f alse [2] - http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idedevelopers.html [3] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?[EMAIL PROTECTED]by=threadfrom=271386 [4] - http://cvs.apache.org/~tcopeland/jakarta_bad_imports.htm Commons === creating and maintaining reusable Java components Editor: Henri Yandell Releases November saw the release of two new projects from Jakarta Commons, and the release of a bugfix for another project. Commons Validator 1.0 was mentioned in the previous newsletter. It was released on November 1st and is a validation framework from the Struts people. Commons CLI 1.0 was released on the 6th of November and is an API for parsing command line arguments. It is the direct descendant of 3 older argument parsing APIs and other APIs have affected it over mail list discussions. This gives it a very high pedigree and makes it a great choice for handling the command line. Commons Lang 1.0.1 is the first bugfix release for the Lang project. There are no new APIs or deprecated functionality, so all Commons Lang users are advised to upgrade, although the bugfixes are not earth-shattering. [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-commons/release/commons-validator/v1.0/RELEASE-NOTES.txt [2] - http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-commons/release/commons-cli/v1.0/RELEASE-NOTES.txt [3] - http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-commons/release/commons-lang/v1.0.1/RELEASE-NOTES.txt Gossip -- November was quiet for Commons, as it was for all of Apache. Indeed, the Commons mail list dropped by 35%. The Patterns project in the Sandbox has been mothballed as its code is to go into Commons Lang and Commons Util. Work has begun on moving the BeanUtils reflection code over to Commons Lang and various BeanUtils bugs were dealt with. A new database utility project has been proposed with generic JDBC(tm) utilities and lives under the name of 'DbUtils' in the sandbox and a project named 'attributes' has been proposed to handle runtime metadata attributes. [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/attributes/ Jelly - Editor: James Strachan Here are the main changes that have happened recently on the Jelly project... XPath sorting now added to the XML library j:useBean can now construct beans with constructor parameters better reporting of JellyUnit failures, line numbers, expressions etc. XMLUnit library added for unit testing of XML inside JellyUnit So now JellyUnit can support the following XML unit testing constructs XPath based assertions via test:assert xpath=.../ schema validation via the jelly:validate library, testing XML against DTDs, XML Schema, RelaxNG etc comparing 2 documents for equality using the new XMLUnit library performing XSLT on some XML and then then performing any of the above parsing HTML via the Neko parser and treating it as XML in any of the above As well as Jexl based assertions, assertEquals and a new assertThrown tag to test for exceptions being thrown in Jelly scripts. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I was mostly off-line over the Thanksgiving weekend and have been caught up with lots of other miscellaneous tasks when I did get some computer time. I'm not going to be able to submit an Ant posting this time, sorry. Erik Rob Oxspring wrote: Hello again, We're very nearly done with another month so it's time to pester people about the newsletter again. As usual, I've cc'd those that submitted content last month in the hope that they will either submit something again, or manage to persuade someone else to take over writing for the November issue. If anybody else fancies doing a write up of the progress in some Jakarta project it then please send it in. For a inspiration on content and style you can review previous entries at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/, although new styles and ideas are welcome too. Planned timescale: Submissions sent to me by midnight Monday 2-Dec-2002. Drafts will be posted on Tuesday and Wednesday as needed for alterations and last minuters. Final copy sent out on [EMAIL PROTECTED] midday 5-Nov-2002 All times GMT. Thanks, Rob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello again, We're very nearly done with another month so it's time to pester people about the newsletter again. As usual, I've cc'd those that submitted content last month in the hope that they will either submit something again, or manage to persuade someone else to take over writing for the November issue. If anybody else fancies doing a write up of the progress in some Jakarta project it then please send it in. For a inspiration on content and style you can review previous entries at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/, although new styles and ideas are welcome too. Planned timescale: Submissions sent to me by midnight Monday 2-Dec-2002. Drafts will be posted on Tuesday and Wednesday as needed for alterations and last minuters. Final copy sent out on [EMAIL PROTECTED] midday 5-Nov-2002 All times GMT. Thanks, Rob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - October 2002
Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 4 Date: October 2002 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200210.html After a break for a month the newsletter is back. Over the last two months there has been lots of organisational discussion. After announcing the Japanese translation project last time round, a similar project in Korean has come to light - a section below has been devoted to bringing you up to speed on progress. The lucene guys have been making the usual steady progress mixing on both bugs and features while the Struts team been introducing future plans and new members As always, I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxspring Contents General Avalon Commons Korean Jakarta Lucene Struts General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring Jean-Frederic Clere was looking for a way to identify the version of the current JVM. After questioning the reliability of various options the conclusion turned out to be It really depends on what you're trying to discover [1]. Vincent Massol was wondering just who his fellow apache committers were and the results of his survey sparked a light hearted debate about what we'd learned [2]. Does apache want another web application framework? Howard Ship has put Tapestry [3] on the table and sparked off a long discussion. Can we have too many? Is it different enough? Is code more important than community? all angles are covered [4]. Is jakarta too big? Should project such as tomcat, ant and others be top level projects? All these things are under discussion along with setting up a dedicated incubator project at apache. This is just the tip of the iceberg the apache community has been discussing a big reorganisation [5, 6]. Dominic Gagne asked a slightly off topic question about the difference between Struts and Turbine and sparked off a long and light hearted discussion about various templating problems and solutions [7]. [1] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgby=threadfrom=247331 [2] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgsearchText=%22Committers%2C+who+are+we%3 F%22defaultField=subjectSearch=Search [3] - http://tapestry.sf.net [4] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgfrom=260431to=260431count=73by=threadpaged=f alse [5] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgby=threadfrom=262621 [6] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgby=threadfrom=261440 [7] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listId=19by=threadfrom=253037 Avalon == The Avalon project is an effort to create, design, develop and maintain a common framework and set of components for applications written using the Java language Editor: Leo Simons Things have been so active, I can only provide a small sampling of what's been going on :) Like many projects at apache, avalon has been busy discussing how to fit into the new structure that is currently in the works. Being one of the projects that has suffered most from 'scope creep', there is a lot to think about [1,2,3]. With avalon committers on the Incubator and Commons PMCs, there's definately a promising perspective. There have also been quite a few bug fixes and enhancements in various places (like Avalon Phoenix now providing good support for using log4j [4] and allowing customizable classloader trees [5]). There's been work integrating catalina and jo! [6] with phoenix. Following extended discussion [7,8,9], avalon also gained an implementation of the delegate design pattern. [1] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10357873406r=1w=2 [2] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10359789155r=1w=2 [3] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10354526811r=1w=2 [4] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10354693374r=1w=2 [5] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=avalon-phoenix-dev;jakarta.apache.orgby=threadfrom=268738 [6] - http://jakarta.apache.org/avalon/apps/apps/sevak/ [7] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10336429557r=1w=2 [8] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10336211462r=1w=2 [9] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10337010231r=1w=2 Commons === creating and maintaining reusable Java components Editor: Henri Yandell Releases October has seen many new releases from the Jakarta Commons project: Commons Lang 1.0 was released on October 4th, a set of very generic components for use in any Java project [1]. Commons Collections 2.1 was released on the 21st of October. Buffers and Decorators were added
Re: [DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - October 2002
I'll give this another 3 hours or so, then assuming there are no problems / additions I'll post it on announcements@jakarta Rob - Original Message - From: Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: [DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - October 2002 Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 4 Date: October 2002 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200210.html After a break for a month the newsletter is back. Over the last two months there has been lots of organisational discussion. After announcing the Japanese translation project last time round, a similar project in Korean has come to light - a section below has been devoted to bringing you up to speed on progress. The lucene guys have been making the usual steady progress mixing on both bugs and features while the Struts team been introducing future plans and new members As always, I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxspring Contents General Avalon Commons Korean Jakarta Lucene Struts General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring Jean-Frederic Clere was looking for a way to identify the version of the current JVM. After questioning the reliability of various options the conclusion turned out to be It really depends on what you're trying to discover [1]. Vincent Massol was wondering just who his fellow apache committers were and the results of his survey sparked a light hearted debate about what we'd learned [2]. Does apache want another web application framework? Howard Ship has put Tapestry [3] on the table and sparked off a long discussion. Can we have too many? Is it different enough? Is code more important than community? all angles are covered [4]. Is jakarta too big? Should project such as tomcat, ant and others be top level projects? All these things are under discussion along with setting up a dedicated incubator project at apache. This is just the tip of the iceberg the apache community has been discussing a big reorganisation [5, 6]. Dominic Gagne asked a slightly off topic question about the difference between Struts and Turbine and sparked off a long and light hearted discussion about various templating problems and solutions [7]. [1] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgby=threadfrom=247331 [2] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgsearchText=%22Committers%2C+who+are+we%3 F%22defaultField=subjectSearch=Search [3] - http://tapestry.sf.net [4] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgfrom=260431to=260431count=73by=threadpaged=f alse [5] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgby=threadfrom=262621 [6] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgby=threadfrom=261440 [7] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listId=19by=threadfrom=253037 Avalon == The Avalon project is an effort to create, design, develop and maintain a common framework and set of components for applications written using the Java language Editor: Leo Simons Things have been so active, I can only provide a small sampling of what's been going on :) Like many projects at apache, avalon has been busy discussing how to fit into the new structure that is currently in the works. Being one of the projects that has suffered most from 'scope creep', there is a lot to think about [1,2,3]. With avalon committers on the Incubator and Commons PMCs, there's definately a promising perspective. There have also been quite a few bug fixes and enhancements in various places (like Avalon Phoenix now providing good support for using log4j [4] and allowing customizable classloader trees [5]). There's been work integrating catalina and jo! [6] with phoenix. Following extended discussion [7,8,9], avalon also gained an implementation of the delegate design pattern. [1] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10357873406r=1w=2 [2] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10359789155r=1w=2 [3] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10354526811r=1w=2 [4] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10354693374r=1w=2 [5] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=avalon-phoenix-dev;jakarta.apache.orgby=threadfrom=268738 [6] - http://jakarta.apache.org/avalon/apps/apps/sevak/ [7] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10336429557r=1w=2 [8] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10336211462r=1w=2 [9] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10337010231r=1w=2
Re: [DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - October 2002
U/f I don't have time to make a better entry (with links to an archive) and no one responded for my call for help * POI put out a new development release that includes Macro support * Shawn Laubach was voted a committer * There was renewed interest in HDF our word port and several new folks expressed an interest in volunteering * Andy discovered the default encoding on Redhat 8 is now UTF-8 and not 8859-1, hence finally we have a machine to test POI with a different default encoding and can fix that bug. -Andy Rob Oxspring wrote: I'll give this another 3 hours or so, then assuming there are no problems / additions I'll post it on announcements@jakarta Rob - Original Message - From: Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: [DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - October 2002 Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 4 Date: October 2002 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200210.html After a break for a month the newsletter is back. Over the last two months there has been lots of organisational discussion. After announcing the Japanese translation project last time round, a similar project in Korean has come to light - a section below has been devoted to bringing you up to speed on progress. The lucene guys have been making the usual steady progress mixing on both bugs and features while the Struts team been introducing future plans and new members As always, I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxspring Contents General Avalon Commons Korean Jakarta Lucene Struts General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring Jean-Frederic Clere was looking for a way to identify the version of the current JVM. After questioning the reliability of various options the conclusion turned out to be It really depends on what you're trying to discover [1]. Vincent Massol was wondering just who his fellow apache committers were and the results of his survey sparked a light hearted debate about what we'd learned [2]. Does apache want another web application framework? Howard Ship has put Tapestry [3] on the table and sparked off a long discussion. Can we have too many? Is it different enough? Is code more important than community? all angles are covered [4]. Is jakarta too big? Should project such as tomcat, ant and others be top level projects? All these things are under discussion along with setting up a dedicated incubator project at apache. This is just the tip of the iceberg the apache community has been discussing a big reorganisation [5, 6]. Dominic Gagne asked a slightly off topic question about the difference between Struts and Turbine and sparked off a long and light hearted discussion about various templating problems and solutions [7]. [1] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgby=threadfrom=247331 [2] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgsearchText=%22Committers%2C+who+are+we%3 F%22defaultField=subjectSearch=Search [3] - http://tapestry.sf.net [4] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgfrom=260431to=260431count=73by=threadpaged=f alse [5] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgby=threadfrom=262621 [6] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgby=threadfrom=261440 [7] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listId=19by=threadfrom=253037 Avalon == The Avalon project is an effort to create, design, develop and maintain a common framework and set of components for applications written using the Java language Editor: Leo Simons Things have been so active, I can only provide a small sampling of what's been going on :) Like many projects at apache, avalon has been busy discussing how to fit into the new structure that is currently in the works. Being one of the projects that has suffered most from 'scope creep', there is a lot to think about [1,2,3]. With avalon committers on the Incubator and Commons PMCs, there's definately a promising perspective. There have also been quite a few bug fixes and enhancements in various places (like Avalon Phoenix now providing good support for using log4j [4] and allowing customizable classloader trees [5]). There's been work integrating catalina and jo! [6] with phoenix. Following extended discussion [7,8,9], avalon also gained an implementation of the delegate design pattern. [1] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10357873406r=1w=2 [2] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t
Re: [DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - October 2002
Thanks - will be in the final version. Rob - Original Message - From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - October 2002 U/f I don't have time to make a better entry (with links to an archive) and no one responded for my call for help * POI put out a new development release that includes Macro support * Shawn Laubach was voted a committer * There was renewed interest in HDF our word port and several new folks expressed an interest in volunteering * Andy discovered the default encoding on Redhat 8 is now UTF-8 and not 8859-1, hence finally we have a machine to test POI with a different default encoding and can fix that bug. -Andy Rob Oxspring wrote: I'll give this another 3 hours or so, then assuming there are no problems / additions I'll post it on announcements@jakarta Rob - Original Message - From: Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 12:13 PM Subject: [DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - October 2002 Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 4 Date: October 2002 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200210.html After a break for a month the newsletter is back. Over the last two months there has been lots of organisational discussion. After announcing the Japanese translation project last time round, a similar project in Korean has come to light - a section below has been devoted to bringing you up to speed on progress. The lucene guys have been making the usual steady progress mixing on both bugs and features while the Struts team been introducing future plans and new members As always, I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxspring Contents General Avalon Commons Korean Jakarta Lucene Struts General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring Jean-Frederic Clere was looking for a way to identify the version of the current JVM. After questioning the reliability of various options the conclusion turned out to be It really depends on what you're trying to discover [1]. Vincent Massol was wondering just who his fellow apache committers were and the results of his survey sparked a light hearted debate about what we'd learned [2]. Does apache want another web application framework? Howard Ship has put Tapestry [3] on the table and sparked off a long discussion. Can we have too many? Is it different enough? Is code more important than community? all angles are covered [4]. Is jakarta too big? Should project such as tomcat, ant and others be top level projects? All these things are under discussion along with setting up a dedicated incubator project at apache. This is just the tip of the iceberg the apache community has been discussing a big reorganisation [5, 6]. Dominic Gagne asked a slightly off topic question about the difference between Struts and Turbine and sparked off a long and light hearted discussion about various templating problems and solutions [7]. [1] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgby=threadfrom=247331 [2] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgsearchText=%22Committers%2C+who+are+we% 3 F%22defaultField=subjectSearch=Search [3] - http://tapestry.sf.net [4] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgfrom=260431to=260431count=73by=threadpaged= f alse [5] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgby=threadfrom=262621 [6] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta.apache.orgby=threadfrom=261440 [7] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listId=19by=threadfrom=253037 Avalon == The Avalon project is an effort to create, design, develop and maintain a common framework and set of components for applications written using the Java language Editor: Leo Simons Things have been so active, I can only provide a small sampling of what's been going on :) Like many projects at apache, avalon has been busy discussing how to fit into the new structure that is currently in the works. Being one of the projects that has suffered most from 'scope creep', there is a lot to think about [1,2,3]. With avalon committers on the Incubator and Commons PMCs, there's definately a promising perspective. There have also been quite a few bug fixes and enhancements in various places (like
[DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - October 2002
Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 4 Date: October 2002 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200210.html After a break for a month the newsletter is back. Over the last two months there has been lots of organisational discussion. After announcing the Japanese translation project last time round, a similar project in Korean has come to light - a section below has been devoted to bringing you up to speed on progress. The lucene guys have been making the usual steady progress mixing on both bugs and features while the Struts team been introducing future plans and new members As always, I want to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxspring Contents General Commons Korean Jakarta Lucene Struts General === Ideas, suggestions, and comments on the overall Jakarta project Editor: Rob Oxspring Jean-Frederic Clere was looking for a way to identify the version of the current JVM. After questioning the reliability of various options the conclusion turned out to be It really depends on what you're trying to discover [1]. Vincent Massol was wondering just who his fellow apache committers were and the results of his survey sparked a light hearted debate about what we'd learned [2]. Does apache want another web application framework? Howard Ship has put Tapestry [3] on the table and sparked off a long discussion. Can we have too many? Is it different enough? Is code more important than community? all angles are covered [4]. Is jakarta too big? Should project such as tomcat, ant and others be top level projects? All these things are under discussion along with setting up a dedicated incubator project at apache. This is just the tip of the iceberg the apache community has been discussing a big reorganisation [5, 6]. Dominic Gagne asked a slightly off topic question about the difference between Struts and Turbine and sparked off a long and light hearted discussion about various templating problems and solutions [7]. [1] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=247331 [2] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=listName=general @jakarta.apache.orgsearchText=%22Committers%2C+who+are+we%3F%22default Field=subjectSearch=Search [3] - http://tapestry.sf.net [4] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta .apache.orgfrom=260431to=260431count=73by=threadpaged=false [5] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=262621 [6] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listName=general;jakarta .apache.orgby=threadfrom=261440 [7] - http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listId=19by=threadfrom =253037 Commons === Due to the diverse nature of the commons group, this section has been split up to make it easier to pick out the topics of interest. This months stories come from the following: ... Korean Jakarta == Jakarta Site in Korean Editor: Jaechun Noh Java developers in Korea have more interests in jakarta project than all the time. But many of them have trouble directly reading original English site. Most problems we are encounterd during development using jakarta projects can be solved only if we search for site manuals. We want many people directly searching informations by their convenient languages. Currently about 35 people participate in the project, and Hangul translation of 13 subprojects is in progress. Tomcat, Struts, Ant Among those have many volunteers more than three since interests in those subprojects are higher than any others in Korea. At the end of this year, we plan to finish all documents in Tomcat 4.X, Struts 1.0.2, POI, JMeter, Ant etc. We are all working with pure purpose without any support from commercial corporation and without any reward. [1] - http://www.apache-korea.org/ Lucene == a high-performance, full-featured text search engine Editor: Otis Gospodnetic The biggest change to Lucene since Auguest was the addition of a mechanism that allows Document and Field boosting [1]. This change allows one to give additional boost to certain documents and/or fields, which results in those documents getting a higher ranking when they match a query. A new method, setPositionIncrement() in Token class was added. This permits, for the purpose of phrase searching, placing multiple terms in a single position. This is useful with stemmers that produce multiple possible stems for a word. This also permits the introduction of gaps between terms, so that terms which are adjacent in a token stream will not be matched by and exact phrase query. This makes it possible, e.g., to build an analyzer where phrases are not matched over stop
Newsletter - Request for content
Hi all, After a lapse last month its approaching time to put together another newsletter. As usual, I've cc'd those that submitted content last month in the hope that they will either submit something again, or try to persuade someone else to take over writing for the Sep-Oct issue. If anybody else fancies doing a write up of the progress in some Jakarta project it then please send it in. For a inspiration on content and style you can review previous entries at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/, although new styles and ideas are welcome too. Planned timescale: Submissions sent to me by midnight Sunday 3-Nov-2002. Drafts will be posted on Monday and Tuesday as needed for alterations and last minuters. Final copy sent out on [EMAIL PROTECTED] midday 6-Nov-2002 All times GMT. Thanks, Rob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:general-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:general-help;jakarta.apache.org
Re: Newsletter
The consensus (mainly private mails) seems to be to stick to the monthly scheme and accept September as a blip. So business as usual - I'll call for contributions covering Sep + Oct sometime next week and post drafts from the 4th. Cheers, Rob - Original Message - From: Brian Ewins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 5:33 PM Subject: Re: Newsletter As a reader, monthly is a good frequency. Maybe I'm expecting something different from the newsletter than you're looking to include? I look at the newsletter as being something like kernel traffic[1], the kernel cousins[2], or the 'eclectic' weblog[3]. It lets me keep up with the direction the community is heading in without reading all the lists. Announcements of new releases are actually the least interesting parts of the newsletter, since these get flagged up on the main news page anyway, and as you say arent all that frequent; feature-freezes and banches are more interesting. The most interesting things though are when something new appears on the horizon, a major new feature becomes usable (even if unstable), or there is a statement of the future direction of the project on the list. This kind of nugget is exactly what you need to keep abreast of the projects. Stuff like that did appear on struts dev in September - and it does every month! -, even though Sept was a light month for messages: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listId=41msgNo=10612 - the Struts-EL package was checked in http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=struts-dev;jakarta.apache.orgmsgNo=10550 - which led to David Karr becoming a committer http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=struts-dev;jakarta.apache.orgmsgNo=10547 - Craig clarified whats going on with struts and JSF (you could make the whole months struts entry just by editing down this email!) If the editorial was going to the depth of kernel traffic, rather than the paragraph or two each list gets in the newsletter, I'd also have included some of the thread voting on validator behaviour, the responses to Craigs email about JSF, and possibly some of the discussion on browser caching[4]. eh, this isnt me volunteering as editor or anything ;) - I'm just giving my perspective on what I get out of reading the newsletter. Cheers, Baz [1] http://kt.zork.net/kernel-traffic/latest.html (summarizes the linux-kernel list) [2] http://kt.zork.net/wine/latest.html - for example, this is the wine kernel cousin [3] http://weblogs.userland.com/eclectic/ - eclectic covers the xml-dev list (by the former author of xml-deviant http://www.xml.com/pub/q/xmldeviant) [4] surprised noone mentioned that because ActionServlet doesn't override lastModified() conditional GETs on struts actions arent supported - but thats by the by. Joe Germuska wrote: As the volunteer editor for Struts for the first few newsletters, I'm wondering if monthly is the right frequency for these? Maybe it's because Struts is pretty focused on killing bugs for a 1.1 release, but that doesn't make for a lot of interesting news. Of course, the fact that various projects can participate or not according to their wishes may mean that circulating the newsletter every month is sensible, but that projects shouldn't feel obliged to conjure up news every month if there isn't much to say? We could probably survive with newsletters every 2 or 3 months instead of monthly. Joe Privacy and Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this E-Mail message is intended only for the person or persons to whom it is addressed. Such information is confidential and privileged and no mistake in transmission is intended to waive or compromise such privilege. If you have received it in error, please destroy it and notify us on the telephone number printed above. If you do not receive complete and legible copies, please telephone us immediately. Any opinions expressed herein including attachments are those of the author only. i-documentsystems Ltd. does not accept responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of the information provided or for any changes to this Email, however made, after it was sent. (Please note that it is your responsibility to scan this message for viruses). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:general-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:general-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:general-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:general-help;jakarta.apache.org
Re: Newsletter
As a reader, monthly is a good frequency. Maybe I'm expecting something different from the newsletter than you're looking to include? I look at the newsletter as being something like kernel traffic[1], the kernel cousins[2], or the 'eclectic' weblog[3]. It lets me keep up with the direction the community is heading in without reading all the lists. Announcements of new releases are actually the least interesting parts of the newsletter, since these get flagged up on the main news page anyway, and as you say arent all that frequent; feature-freezes and banches are more interesting. The most interesting things though are when something new appears on the horizon, a major new feature becomes usable (even if unstable), or there is a statement of the future direction of the project on the list. This kind of nugget is exactly what you need to keep abreast of the projects. Stuff like that did appear on struts dev in September - and it does every month! -, even though Sept was a light month for messages: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listId=41msgNo=10612 - the Struts-EL package was checked in http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=struts-dev;jakarta.apache.orgmsgNo=10550 - which led to David Karr becoming a committer http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=struts-dev;jakarta.apache.orgmsgNo=10547 - Craig clarified whats going on with struts and JSF (you could make the whole months struts entry just by editing down this email!) If the editorial was going to the depth of kernel traffic, rather than the paragraph or two each list gets in the newsletter, I'd also have included some of the thread voting on validator behaviour, the responses to Craigs email about JSF, and possibly some of the discussion on browser caching[4]. eh, this isnt me volunteering as editor or anything ;) - I'm just giving my perspective on what I get out of reading the newsletter. Cheers, Baz [1] http://kt.zork.net/kernel-traffic/latest.html (summarizes the linux-kernel list) [2] http://kt.zork.net/wine/latest.html - for example, this is the wine kernel cousin [3] http://weblogs.userland.com/eclectic/ - eclectic covers the xml-dev list (by the former author of xml-deviant http://www.xml.com/pub/q/xmldeviant) [4] surprised noone mentioned that because ActionServlet doesn't override lastModified() conditional GETs on struts actions arent supported - but thats by the by. Joe Germuska wrote: As the volunteer editor for Struts for the first few newsletters, I'm wondering if monthly is the right frequency for these? Maybe it's because Struts is pretty focused on killing bugs for a 1.1 release, but that doesn't make for a lot of interesting news. Of course, the fact that various projects can participate or not according to their wishes may mean that circulating the newsletter every month is sensible, but that projects shouldn't feel obliged to conjure up news every month if there isn't much to say? We could probably survive with newsletters every 2 or 3 months instead of monthly. Joe Privacy and Confidentiality Notice The information contained in this E-Mail message is intended only for the person or persons to whom it is addressed. Such information is confidential and privileged and no mistake in transmission is intended to waive or compromise such privilege. If you have received it in error, please destroy it and notify us on the telephone number printed above. If you do not receive complete and legible copies, please telephone us immediately. Any opinions expressed herein including attachments are those of the author only. i-documentsystems Ltd. does not accept responsibility for the accuracy or completeness of the information provided or for any changes to this Email, however made, after it was sent. (Please note that it is your responsibility to scan this message for viruses). -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:general-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:general-help;jakarta.apache.org
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Hi all, You may or may not have noticed that there wasn't a newsletter at the beginning of the month. Unfortunately I was extremely busy with a release at the turn of the month and then have been ill since. All is well now though. Now that I'm back on my feet again I'm wondering what to do about the missing issue... Otis sent a lucene update, but is it worth pursuing others for contributions or should we skip September and have a bumper October issue? alternatively we could publish a mid October one and then wait another 6 weeks or so for the next. Thanks for the thoughts, Rob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Rob Oxspring wrote: Now that I'm back on my feet again I'm wondering what to do about the missing issue... Otis sent a lucene update, but is it worth pursuing others for contributions or should we skip September and have a bumper October issue? alternatively we could publish a mid October one and then wait another 6 weeks or so for the next. Bumper Halloween special, complete with ghoulishly funny jokes. I think trying to go for a Sept version will just confuse, people probably aren't expecting it as a monthly arrival yet, so you'll quite happily be able to push out a bumper October one with a simple footnote from the editor to explain the lack of Sept. Hen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newsletter
As the volunteer editor for Struts for the first few newsletters, I'm
wondering if monthly is the right frequency for these? Maybe it's
because Struts is pretty focused on killing bugs for a 1.1 release,
but that doesn't make for a lot of interesting news.
Of course, the fact that various projects can participate or not
according to their wishes may mean that circulating the newsletter
every month is sensible, but that projects shouldn't feel obliged to
conjure up news every month if there isn't much to say?
We could probably survive with newsletters every 2 or 3 months
instead of monthly.
Joe
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Re: Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
Hi Rob and everyone, Thanks for putting this together. It's going to be very helpful for those of us working in the JCP to keep track of what's happening within Jakarta. -jh- Rob Oxspring wrote: Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 1 Date: June 2002 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200206.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
Sweet! Thanks a lot! Aleksey On Thu, Jul 04, 2002 at 08:01:39PM +0100, Rob Oxspring wrote: Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 1 Date: June 2002 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200206.html Welcome to the issue #1 of the Jakarta Newsletter. The aim of the newsletter is to try and let people know what's been going on in the jakarta projects when they have been unable to monitor all of them themselves. The editorship of the various sections and overall will probably vary which should hopefully lead to a fairly dynamic monthly newsletter. So who's sending this to you? I'm a UK software developer working mainly with database webapps, with an interest in the development processes involved. My involvement at jakarta has been mainly as a user of various subprojects, a lurker on the general and commons-dev lists, a long time lurker and occasional conributor to Ant, and lately this Newsletter has become my pet project. This month we have news based contributions from several projects and a plea for requirements from Avalon. I'd like to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxspring Contents General Ant Avalon Commons Jetspeed Log4j Lucene ObJectRelationalBridge ORO POI Struts Taglibs Tomcat General === Editor: Rob Oxspring Discussions on general have been fairly light weight this month. The main points have been in regard to issue #0 of the newsletter [1] and some discussion about how best to setup the scarab installation for bug reporting [2]. The other main on topic thread regarded java.sun.com's new look. Is it time for jakarta to have a facelift? can we learn lessons from sun? The answer seems to be wait for maven or forrest but generally the familiar open source rule of your itch, you scratch it applies [3]. The same thread also discusses the idea of announced and arranged live chats about the various jakarta project with key developers on hand to help explain and assist. [1] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10232855325r=1w=2n=21 [2] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10239199531r=1w=2n=12 [3] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10252004412r=1w=2n=10 Avalon == Editor: Berin Loritsch The Avalon team is in the process of identifying the requirements for a new version of the Avalon Framework. The changes are minimal, and focus on a tighter definition of the contract between the container and the component. The container is the code that manages all the components and how to access them. The Avalon team has identified some anti-patterns related to its use, and wants to provide a way to make it easier to use correctly. What we want to find out from the community at large is: 1) Are you currently using Avalon in one of your projects? 2) If not, what would it take for you to consider using it on a future project? 3) If yes, what did you like best? What were your greatest challenges? If you could choose one way to improve Avalon, what would it be? Slated for the next version of Avalon already: 1) Enhanced Meta Data. We are unifying the way we define meta data for the components. This allows the component to be used in any Avalon compliant container with zero issues. Previously you had to find out how any one container defined meta information (like version, whether the component is threadsafe or not, etc.). 2) (Tentative but likely) Standard way of extending the component lifecycle. Avalon already has a rich lifecycle management system, but sometimes you need an application specific extension. We have plans of allowing that to happen, and use any of the existing containers. 3) Enhanced tutuorials, user documentation. The new docs (when written) will focus first on how to use Avalon (the biggest complaint about our documentation). It will then present the anti-patterns that Avalon is supposed to address, and the patterns it uses to solve those issues. Ant === Editor: Rob Oxspring Conor MacNeill introduced some documentation about his Ant2 proposal and this lead to a discussion of how we could make ant projects more object oriented and reusable, including a look at how other systems achieve a similar result [1]. In particular the Myrmidon Ant2 proposal featured with discussion moving onto whether templating could solve the problems being faced [2]. The antidote (ant gui) project has seen a small revival this month with a couple of new developers joining forces with Christoph Wilhelms to try and drive the project forward [3,4]. The cvs freeze for Beta3 went without a hitch [5,6] and in preparation for the release Erik Hatcher and Steve Loughran lead the way updating
Re: Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
Hi Rob, Nice newsletter. I have one suggestion: For each article about a subproject, please include a one liner at the beginning that describes the purpose of that subproject. Thanks, Bryan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsletter link on jakarta.apache.org?
I like the news letter. This is a good way to know what is happening in other projects without having to follow their mailing list. Is their, or should their be, a link to the newsletter on Jakarta's home page? Paul Spencer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PATCH] RE: Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
Any chance of applying the patch to bring the online copy in line with the one that went out? Cheers, Rob -Original Message- From: Rob Oxspring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 4 July 2002 20:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002 Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 1 Date: June 2002 Url: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200206.html snip/ Index: 200206.xml === RCS file: /home/cvspublic/jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/news/200206.xml,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 200206.xml --- 200206.xml 2 Jul 2002 12:24:10 - 1.1 +++ 200206.xml 4 Jul 2002 19:00:23 - @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@ ?xml version=1.0? document properties -author email=[EMAIL PROTECTED]Rob J. Oxspring/author +author email=[EMAIL PROTECTED]Rob Oxspring/author titleJakarta Newsletter - June 2002 - #1/title /properties body @@ -12,13 +12,13 @@ br/ bDate:/b June 2002 br/ -bUrl:/b a href=http://jakarta.apache.org/newletter/200206.html;http://jakarta.apache.org/newletter/200206.html/a +bUrl:/b a +href=http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200206.html;http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/200206.html/a /p pWelcome to the issue #1 of the Jakarta Newsletter. The aim of the newsletter is to try and let people know what's been going on in the jakarta projects when they have been unable to monitor all of them themselves. The editorship of the various sections and overall will probably vary which should hopefully lead to a fairly dynamic monthly newsletter./p pSo who's sending this to you? I'm a UK software developer working mainly with database webapps, with an interest in the development processes involved. My involvement at jakarta has been mainly as a user of various subprojects, a lurker on the general and commons-dev lists, a long time lurker and occasional conributor to Ant, and lately this Newsletter has become my pet project./p pThis month we have news based contributions from several projects and a plea for requirements from Avalon. I'd like to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the a href=http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html;appropriate list/a, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=[Newsletter];[EMAIL PROTECTED]/a./p -pRob Oxsping/p +pRob Oxspring/p subsection name=Contents lia href=#GeneralGeneral/a/li lia href=#AntAnt/a/li @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ lia href=#JetspeedJetspeed/a/li lia href=#Log4jLog4j/a/li lia href=#LuceneLucene/a/li -lia href=#Object BridgeObject Bridge/a/li +lia href=#ObJectRelationalBridgeObJectRelationalBridge/a/li lia href=#OROORO/a/li lia href=#POIPOI/a/li lia href=#StrutsStruts/a/li @@ -271,7 +271,7 @@ -section name=Object Bridge +section name=ObJectRelationalBridge pbEditor:/b Thomas Mahler /p pOJB joined Jakarta in June!/p @@ -296,7 +296,11 @@ p lia name=ojb1[1] - a href=http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;msgNo=274;http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;msgNo=274/a/a/li lia name=ojb2[2] - a href=http://jakarta.apache.org/ojb/jdo/jdo-proposal.html;http://jakarta.apache.org/ojb/jdo/jdo-proposal.html/a/a/li -lia name=ojb3[3] - a href=http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;msgNo=225;http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;msgNo=225/a/a/li +lia name=ojb3[3] - a +href=http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;msgId=382893;http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;msgId=382893/a/a/li + + + + /p/section -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[FINAL] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
Okay, comments have pretty much dried up now so I'm getting ready to send out the final version on announcements@... any chance of someone dropping the latest copy of 200206.xml into cvs and letting me know when things are all set? Its not a diff as I can't seem to access cvs at the moment... hopefully this is just a local problem... The zip also has a replacement index.xml that also points to the May issue #0 in case thats wanted. I'll leave that to the committer's discretion though. Rob news.zip Description: Zip compressed data -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
I'm not trying to be a PITA, but shouldn't this thread be posted on the Tomcat-Dev list where all the Tomcat developers can join in the fun? -T. I could be an idea but the proposal make reference to Avalon, so it's outside tomcat-dev and we don't want to restart a flam wars on 2 lists isn't it. BTW, Pier and others are looking at that list and may comments my resume. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
Please find attached the xdoc/html/txt versions of the the second draft (zipped). The changes: oNew sections for Jetspeed, Lucene, and Tomcat oMentions actual release of JXPath not just talk of oCeki's name is now in its full glory, as is Mike McAngus's oSwitched Mahler Thomas to Thomas Mahler Do people want the html version? if so, we could do with finalising the location and someone committing the xdoc before I send the final copy out to the wide world. If we can decide this matter and there are no more changes / submissions then I'll send this copy out tomorrow. So again - let me know of any changes you think are necessary. Rob draft2.zip Description: Zip compressed data -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
I add a /news directory and the first edition to the site2 CVS. So on the website this would be under jakarta.apache.org/site/news. But I don't know how to get the web site to checkout the new folder. cvs update ignored it. I tried creating a news directory but that didn't help. If someone can set up the website to checkout the new directory, the rest is done. -Ted. Rob Oxspring wrote: Please find attached the xdoc/html/txt versions of the the second draft (zipped). The changes: oNew sections for Jetspeed, Lucene, and Tomcat oMentions actual release of JXPath not just talk of oCeki's name is now in its full glory, as is Mike McAngus's oSwitched Mahler Thomas to Thomas Mahler Do people want the html version? if so, we could do with finalising the location and someone committing the xdoc before I send the final copy out to the wide world. If we can decide this matter and there are no more changes / submissions then I'll send this copy out tomorrow. So again - let me know of any changes you think are necessary. Rob Name: draft2.zip draft2.zipType: Zip Compressed Data (application/x-zip-compressed) Encoding: base64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
cvs up -d -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 July 2002 13:34 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: [DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002 I add a /news directory and the first edition to the site2 CVS. So on the website this would be under jakarta.apache.org/site/news. But I don't know how to get the web site to checkout the new folder. cvs update ignored it. I tried creating a news directory but that didn't help. If someone can set up the website to checkout the new directory, the rest is done. -Ted. Rob Oxspring wrote: Please find attached the xdoc/html/txt versions of the the second draft (zipped). The changes: oNew sections for Jetspeed, Lucene, and Tomcat oMentions actual release of JXPath not just talk of oCeki's name is now in its full glory, as is Mike McAngus's oSwitched Mahler Thomas to Thomas Mahler Do people want the html version? if so, we could do with finalising the location and someone committing the xdoc before I send the final copy out to the wide world. If we can decide this matter and there are no more changes / submissions then I'll send this copy out tomorrow. So again - let me know of any changes you think are necessary. Rob Name: draft2.zip draft2.zipType: Zip Compressed Data (application/x-zip-compressed) Encoding: base64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
Thanks, Danny. (Been using a GUI too long =:0) A draft archive page is now up at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news/ Once this ships, I'm thinking we could add a Newsletter section at the top of the welcome page [Jakarta Newsletter] * June 2002 [Product News] * ... And change from June to July when the time comes. We could also change the default News Status page to a portal that links to the pages we have now have for * Newsletter archive * Product News * Other Jakarta News * Elsewhere and get all this moved under the new /news folder. Sound like a plan? -T. Danny Angus wrote: cvs up -d -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 July 2002 13:34 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: [DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002 I add a /news directory and the first edition to the site2 CVS. So on the website this would be under jakarta.apache.org/site/news. But I don't know how to get the web site to checkout the new folder. cvs update ignored it. I tried creating a news directory but that didn't help. If someone can set up the website to checkout the new directory, the rest is done. -Ted. Rob Oxspring wrote: Please find attached the xdoc/html/txt versions of the the second draft (zipped). The changes: oNew sections for Jetspeed, Lucene, and Tomcat oMentions actual release of JXPath not just talk of oCeki's name is now in its full glory, as is Mike McAngus's oSwitched Mahler Thomas to Thomas Mahler Do people want the html version? if so, we could do with finalising the location and someone committing the xdoc before I send the final copy out to the wide world. If we can decide this matter and there are no more changes / submissions then I'll send this copy out tomorrow. So again - let me know of any changes you think are necessary. Rob Name: draft2.zip draft2.zipType: Zip Compressed Data (application/x-zip-compressed) Encoding: base64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY US -- Java Web Development with Struts -- Tel: +1 585 737-3463 -- Web: http://husted.com/about/services -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
Rob Oxspring wrote: Please find attached the xdoc/html/txt versions of the the second draft (zipped). Rob, in the HTML version, your name is stated as being 'Oxsping'. Regards (nice work, BTW), /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source, Java XML Competence Support Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 1 Date: June 2002 URL: http://jakarta.apache.org/newletter/200206.html Welcome to the issue #1 of the Jakarta Newsletter. The aim of the newsletter is to try and let people know what's been going on in the jakarta projects that when have been unable to monitor all of them. The editorship of the various sections and overall will probably vary which should hopefully lead to a fairly dynamic monthly newsletter. So who's sending this to you? I'm a UK software developer working mainly with database webapps but with an interest in development processes. My involvement at jakarta has been mainly as a user of various subprojects, a lurker on the general and commons-dev lists, a long time lurker and occasional conributor to Ant, and lately this Newsletter has become my pet project. This month we have news based contributions from several projects and a plea for requirements from avalon. I'd like to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxsping Contents General Ant Avalon Commons Log4j Object Bridge ORO POI Struts Taglibs General === Editor: Rob Oxspring Discussions on general have been fairly light weight this month. The main points have been in regard to issue 0 off the newsletter [1] and some discussion about how best to setup the scarab installation for bug reporting [2]. The other main on topic thread regarded java.sun.com's new look. Is it time for jakarta to have a facelift? can we learn lessons from sun? The answer seems to be wait for maven or forrest but generally the familiar open source rule of your itch, you scratch it applies [3]. The same thread also discusses the idea of announced and arranged live chats about the various jakarta project with key developers on hand to help explain and assist. [1] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10232855325r=1w=2n=21 [2] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10239199531r=1w=2n=12 [3] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10252004412r=1w=2n=10 Avalon == Editor: Berin Loritsch The Avalon team is in the process of identifying the requirements for a new version of the Avalon Framework. The changes are minimal, and focus on a tighter definition of the contract between the container and the component. The container is the code that manages all the components and how to access them. The Avalon team has identified some anti-patterns related to its use, and wants to provide a way to make it easier to use correctly. What we want to find out from the community at large is: 1) Are you currently using Avalon in one of your projects? 2) If not, what would it take for you to consider using it on a future project? 3) If yes, what did you like best? What were your greatest challenges? If you could choose one way to improve Avalon, what would it be? Slated for the next version of Avalon already: 1) Enhanced Meta Data. We are unifying the way we define meta data for the components. This allows the component to be used in any Avalon compliant container with zero issues. Previously you had to find out how any one container defined meta information (like version, whether the component is threadsafe or not, etc.). 2) (Tentative but likely) Standard way of extending the component lifecycle. Avalon already has a rich lifecycle management system, but sometimes you need an application specific extension. We have plans of allowing that to happen, and use any of the existing containers. 3) Enhanced tutuorials, user documentation. The new docs (when written) will focus first on how to use Avalon (the biggest complaint about our documentation). It will then present the anti-patterns that Avalon is supposed to address, and the patterns it uses to solve those issues. Ant === Editor: Rob Oxspring Conor MacNeill introduced some documentation aobut his Ant2 proposal and this lead to a discussion of how we could make ant projects more object oriented and reusable and looking at how other systems achieve a similar result [1]. In particular the Myrmidon Ant2 proposal featured with discussion moving onto whether templating could solve the problems being faced [2]. The antidote (ant gui) project has seen a small revival this month with a couple of new developers joining forces with Christoph Wilhelms to try and drive the project forward [3,4]. The cvs freeze for Beta3 went without a hitch [5,6] and in preparation for the release Erik Hatcher and Steve Loughran lead the way updating javadocs and manual entries for various tasks [7]. In the aftermath of Beta3 some new version checks and diagnostic information have been discussed and added to aide users in getting the appropriate help later [8]. Among the task specific issues this month was a question regarding how
Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
Hopefully you'll find attached the xdoc version of the letter and the generated html copy (zipped). I think it would be useful to have the online html version and linked to it from the newsletter so if we agree could some one put the 200206.xml file into jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/newsletter please. (or a different name location with a patch to the letter). If you have minor alterations let me know and I'll chuck them in. If there are bigger changes / additions then diffs to the xdoc would make my life easier since at the moment the text version is just a cut and paste from the html in IE. Eventually I'll get round to learning velocity and writing a template to produce the text from the xdoc. Hopefully I've not missed any contributions out... shout if I have. Ceki - I lost the umlauts(?) in your surname because they were causing the xdoc-html transition to fall over... any ideas how to fix? or is it not a problem? Pier / Henri - Care to summerise the tomcat 5 flamewars and other stuff there? or maybe find someone else to do so? I don't have the time to look into it myself so if its gonna go in then someone else needs to write it. Anyway, have a read and see what you think. If there are no -1s and there is no discussion I'll aim to send out the proper version on wednesday. Special thanks to Berin, Ceki, Thomas, Daniel, Avik, Joe and Shawn for arranging conributions and to those others who've added thoughts comments along the way. Rob - Original Message - From: Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 1:53 PM Subject: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002 Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 1 Date: June 2002 URL: http://jakarta.apache.org/newletter/200206.html Welcome to the issue #1 of the Jakarta Newsletter. The aim of the newsletter is to try and let people know what's been going on in the jakarta projects that when have been unable to monitor all of them. The editorship of the various sections and overall will probably vary which should hopefully lead to a fairly dynamic monthly newsletter. So who's sending this to you? I'm a UK software developer working mainly with database webapps but with an interest in development processes. My involvement at jakarta has been mainly as a user of various subprojects, a lurker on the general and commons-dev lists, a long time lurker and occasional conributor to Ant, and lately this Newsletter has become my pet project. This month we have news based contributions from several projects and a plea for requirements from avalon. I'd like to thank those who contributed and hope that you enjoy the read. If you would like to comment further on any of the highlighted discussions then please do so on the appropriate list, if you want to comment on the newsletter itself then please point your comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rob Oxsping Contents General Ant Avalon Commons Log4j Object Bridge ORO POI Struts Taglibs General === Editor: Rob Oxspring Discussions on general have been fairly light weight this month. The main points have been in regard to issue 0 off the newsletter [1] and some discussion about how best to setup the scarab installation for bug reporting [2]. The other main on topic thread regarded java.sun.com's new look. Is it time for jakarta to have a facelift? can we learn lessons from sun? The answer seems to be wait for maven or forrest but generally the familiar open source rule of your itch, you scratch it applies [3]. The same thread also discusses the idea of announced and arranged live chats about the various jakarta project with key developers on hand to help explain and assist. [1] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10232855325r=1w=2n=21 [2] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10239199531r=1w=2n=12 [3] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10252004412r=1w=2n=10 Avalon == Editor: Berin Loritsch The Avalon team is in the process of identifying the requirements for a new version of the Avalon Framework. The changes are minimal, and focus on a tighter definition of the contract between the container and the component. The container is the code that manages all the components and how to access them. The Avalon team has identified some anti-patterns related to its use, and wants to provide a way to make it easier to use correctly. What we want to find out from the community at large is: 1) Are you currently using Avalon in one of your projects? 2) If not, what would it take for you to consider using it on a future project? 3) If yes, what did you like best? What were your greatest challenges? If you could choose one way to improve Avalon, what would it be? Slated for the next version of Avalon already: 1) Enhanced Meta Data. We are unifying the way we define meta data for the components. This allows the component to be used in any Avalon compliant container with zero issues
Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
Ceki - I lost the umlauts(?) in your surname because they were causing the xdoc-html transition to fall over... any ideas how to fix? or is it not a problem? Save the file as UTF-8 (use vi or another tool, since some editor will put a utf-8 identifier in the beginning of the file.. Mvgr, Martin BTW The newsletter looks very good! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
The Url no works. Nice job though [from the email]. Wonder when there'll be a drive for a separate mail list just for the newsletter, or to send it to the announce list. Hen Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 1 Date: June 2002 URL: http://jakarta.apache.org/newletter/200206.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
Pier / Henri - Care to summerise the tomcat 5 flamewars and other stuff there? or maybe find someone else to do so? I don't have the time to look into it myself so if its gonna go in then someone else needs to write it. I'll try to summarise and Pier will make the necessary comments. The TOMCAT 5.0 proposal was launched by Remy. The goal was to design the next generation Tomcat, using the best parts of Tomcat 3.3 and 4.x, using an improved version of coyote (2.0) code as core, and using catalina 2.0 as servlet container. The great thing in that proposal is that members from the 2 olds teams, 3.3 and 4.x agreed on contributing and working together putting the best they learn from 3.3/4.x. There was a proposal from the Avalon team to use Avalon as core, but it was rejected by Remy, who prefer to have something more suitable and lighter for the TOMCAT core. Pier then ask for a Tomcat HA (High Availability), arguing that Tomcat 4.x (he didn't speak about 3.2 or 3.3) was too unstable so it couldn't use it in its production site. There was then a lengthy discussion about stability which should be a major goal and so on. Many people (tomcat-dev) reported having no problems with Tomcat 4.0 or 3.3. To note, the thread was conducted at the same times that many of us make extensive tests on mod_jk 1.2.0 and sus make huge tests on the connector with Apache 1.3/2.0 and Tomcat 3.3/4.0.4 to detect failure in the connector (or in tomcat), and it appears that there was no major problems with both 3.3/4.0.4. As some writers commented, the stability of a web application, depends on many parts, tomcat being one of them, the real java application and remote side (SQL/enterprise applications) being also mandatory. To summarise, I could say that all of us (tomcat developpers) want to have the stablest engine possible and the thread is open. Nota, that the latest proposal is in tomcat4-head : snipet The major goals for Apache Tomcat 5.0 are to: - improve scalability, reliability and performance over previous versions - have simpler/cleaner code, so more people can get involved - merge of the various ideas in 3.x and 4.x - get the community togheter - provide maximum modularity and compliance to the standards - make it easy to continue to maintain the existing codebases /snipet -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: Jakarta Newsletter
Quick opinion poll: Otis Gospodnetic asked whether an alternate name might be preferred. It hadn't occured to me to be more creative on the naming front at all, but the suggestions follow: Jakarta Gist Jakarta Report(er) Jakarta Informer Jakarta Informant Jakarta Monthly Jakarta Briefs You can combine some, there are plenty of other similar names. I like the first 4 more than the last 2. Otis Any thoughts / preferences? or do we stick with Jakarta Newsletter? Rob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Jakarta Newsletter
Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jakarta Newsletter informs on what it is and at a quick glance I have a great idea what to expect from it. Jakarta Jist, or some other monkier while it may be viewed as catchier it may not strike an immediate flame of recognition, especially those who do not have the relevant experience with Western or Anglo-derivative cultures. Thats the best feedback I can give on that. Lets paint the bikeshed yellow, with the word bike shed on the side of it, so that people will see it and understand its function. Exactly! Best regards Rainer Klute Rainer Klute IT-Consulting GmbH Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Körner Grund 24 Telefon: +49 172 2324824 D-44143 Dortmund Telefax: +49 231 5349423 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
Cool Avik! Nice job. This is a nice piece of work and really puts things into perspective. -Andy snip/ POI === Editor: Avik Sengupta The POI team made two releases in June. A production release of version 1.5.1 on June 17, and a dev milestone release 1.7.0 on June 24. The dev release was notable for the inclusion of a large body of formula support. This was preceeded by some expected wrestling with the undocumented parts of the excel file format [2]. The dev list was animated for a while on the issue of whether poi should have a calculation engine built in. Andy summarised the discussion [3]. To better understand how POI and its components are being used in practice, a call for case studies was made [4]. These have been put up on the project site [5]. There have been many requests for a java viewer for excel files. Andy hacked up Sucky Viewer as a GUI component built on POI/HSSF [6]. Logging has been the cause of a large number of problem reports. It was therefore decided that POI would have logging disabled by default, and thus no extra libraries would be required to run POI [7]. However, developers wou ld have the option of enabling logging at runtime using either commons logging or log4j. This decision was further validated when there were reports of significant performance hit with logging enabled [8]. As a result, the 1.5.1 and 1.7-dev versions have logging disabled. The POI team is working towards a 2.0 release that adds the functionality for formula, charting and Word documents. There are many feature requests that have been asked for, but these are the top priority at the moment [9]. [1] - http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/hssf/formula.html [2] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=poi-devm=102382900822300w=2 [3] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=poi-devm=102468743701331w=2 [4] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=poi-devm=102371435712172w=2 [5] - http://jakarta.apache.org/poi/casestudies.html [6] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=poi-userm=102476270711166w=2 [7] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10233389351r=1w=2 [8] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=poi-userm=102518419020006w=2 [9] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=poi-devm=102500927422333w=2 snip/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
-Original Message- From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 6:18 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002 The Url no works. Nice job though [from the email]. Wonder when there'll be a drive for a separate mail list just for the newsletter, or to send it to the announce list. How about now? ;-) For people who are not necessarily involved with Jakarta, but want to keep tabs on what's going on here, I think either of these would be good. I don't have a strong preference for one or the other. A separate list is commonly used for newsletters elsewhere, but then again, people who want to keep tabs on what's going on here are likely to be subscribed to announcements@ already. -- Martin Cooper Hen Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 1 Date: June 2002 URL: http://jakarta.apache.org/newletter/200206.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Fw: Jakarta Newsletter
+1 -Original Message- From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 7:56 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Fw: Jakarta Newsletter Any thoughts / preferences? or do we stick with Jakarta Newsletter? Rob Jakarta Newsletter informs on what it is and at a quick glance I have a great idea what to expect from it. Jakarta Jist, or some other monkier while it may be viewed as catchier it may not strike an immediate flame of recognition, especially those who do not have the relevant experience with Western or Anglo-derivative cultures. Thats the best feedback I can give on that. Lets paint the bikeshed yellow, with the word bike shed on the side of it, so that people will see it and understand its function. -Andy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002
JEdit (free, GNU, java) works well with UTF8. Then, if it's transformed to XHTML add to the top. ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd Or just HTML, try this in the head. meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8 / BTW - The newsletter is very welcomed. Martin van den Bemt wrote: Ceki - I lost the umlauts(?) in your surname because they were causing the xdoc-html transition to fall over... any ideas how to fix? or is it not a problem? Save the file as UTF-8 (use vi or another tool, since some editor will put a utf-8 identifier in the beginning of the file.. Mvgr, Martin BTW The newsletter looks very good! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ellis Teer www.sitepen.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jakarta Newsletter
Firstly, apologies for the cross post but I wanted your attention (and conribtutions). Any discussion following that should involve me should probably go on general@ or cc me directly - the whole point of the newsletter is that I have niether the time nor the inclination to join all the -dev lists myself... read on. The idea is to try and produce a Jakarta Newsletter to let developers know what has been going on in the other projects, without having to monitor each of them. Hopefully this will allow people to spot discussions and subprojects that are important to them but were happening within a foriegn list, the net result should be better cross-pollination of ideas and increased awareness through jakarta generally. Enough of the high aims - a proof of concept issue was put out and discussed on general@ (http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL PROTECTED]. orgmsgId=353518) and so I'm now trying to gather information for a proper issue #1. What I'm after is a volunteer from each group to edit together summaries of the intersting / important discussions within their own group over the course of June, and send me the result by the end of Sunday. It would be good (though not essential) if you could let me know that someone will be taking on the task for your project, so that I can reduce the general pestering in later mails . Any groups that submit nothing will simply not feature as I have not got the time to browse and edit the discussions myself. Thanks in advance, Rob For background regarding the newsletter, check out any/all of the mails here: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=listName=general@jakar ta.apache.orgsearchText=newsletterdefaultField=subjectSearch=Search -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PROPOSAL] Newsletter Submissions
Also you could add that mod_jk 1.2.0 is in final stage and will be release in the next 2 weeks - Henri Gomez ___[_] EMAIL : [EMAIL PROTECTED](. .) PGP KEY : 697ECEDD...oOOo..(_)..oOOo... PGP Fingerprint : 9DF8 1EA8 ED53 2F39 DC9B 904A 364F 80E6 -Original Message- From: Ignacio J. Ortega [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 10:04 AM To: 'Jakarta General List' Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Newsletter Submissions Hola Rob: Another history from tomcat-dev: jk2 ( the next version of jk connector) is reaching Alpha state, there is not dates in our plan, but doesnt seem very dare, to say that will be ready for release in 2 months or so, more or less in september.. will be apr based, supporting ( in his first release ) at least the 3 major webservers, Apache 1.X, Apache 2.X and IIS 4.0 and up.. Saludos , Ignacio J. Ortega -Mensaje original- De: Rob Oxspring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: 25 de junio de 2002 12:47 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: [PROPOSAL] Newsletter Submissions Id like to propose the following time scale for the June newsletter and similar setup for subsequent ones. 1)Content submissions in by end of sunday (midnight) 2)I'll pull together whats there and post a draft copy to general@ on the Monday (1st July) 3)Then await edits and a lazy consensus and post final copy to announcements@ on the Wednesday (3rd July) Content should aim to summerise what's been going on in the various groups throughout June, I used the most active threads for issue #0 (http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=general@j akarta.apache. orgmsgNo=12130) but this may miss out the occasional worthy decision / change / vote, YMMV. It would also be good to all be using the same reference source so nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse for links to mail archives where possible? I guess submissions might as well go directly to me so that the draft has something new for people to read. Although as Ted Husted suggested - discussion of content in the respective -dev lists would probably be a good step prior to submission, and some sort of [news] subject prefix would be appreciated for filtering. If projects want to further subdivide (e.g. commons / avalon) then they should organise it amongst themselves. Could I have volunteers to organise / edit / submit on behalf of each -dev list for June? I'd like to avoid a cross-post invitation to all -dev@ if at all possible. Rob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PROPOSAL] Newsletter Submissions
Id like to propose the following time scale for the June newsletter and similar setup for subsequent ones. 1)Content submissions in by end of sunday (midnight) 2)I'll pull together whats there and post a draft copy to general@ on the Monday (1st July) 3)Then await edits and a lazy consensus and post final copy to announcements@ on the Wednesday (3rd July) Content should aim to summerise what's been going on in the various groups throughout June, I used the most active threads for issue #0 (http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL PROTECTED]. orgmsgNo=12130) but this may miss out the occasional worthy decision / change / vote, YMMV. It would also be good to all be using the same reference source so nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse for links to mail archives where possible? I guess submissions might as well go directly to me so that the draft has something new for people to read. Although as Ted Husted suggested - discussion of content in the respective -dev lists would probably be a good step prior to submission, and some sort of [news] subject prefix would be appreciated for filtering. If projects want to further subdivide (e.g. commons / avalon) then they should organise it amongst themselves. Could I have volunteers to organise / edit / submit on behalf of each -dev list for June? I'd like to avoid a cross-post invitation to all -dev@ if at all possible. Rob -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PROPOSAL] Newsletter Submissions
Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could I have volunteers to organise / edit / submit on behalf of each -dev list for June? I'd like to avoid a cross-post invitation to all -dev@ if at all possible. If you wan't to mention it, Pier's flamewar of the month is about having a more reliable tomcat, rather than a feature overloaded one... Pier -- [Perl] combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion of different sublanguages in one monolithic executable. It combines the power of C with the readability of PostScript. [Jamie Zawinski - DNA Lounge - San Francisco] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PROPOSAL] Newsletter Submissions
Could I have volunteers to organise / edit / submit on behalf of each -dev list for June? I'd like to avoid a cross-post invitation to all -dev@ if at all possible. If you wan't to mention it, Pier's flamewar of the month is about having a more reliable tomcat, rather than a feature overloaded one... yes, I think you should add the Tomcat 5.0 proposal thread to the newsletter. A very interesting thread, for a very interesting proposal about using the best of TC 3.3/4.x to make a better tomcat for jakarta community. Side effect TC 3.3/4.0 members (not all ;), seems to agree on working together and share their experience of both projects. As I said, it's not so bad -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002
From: Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would actually prefer no peer review (or at least no binding peer review). If people want to have a say what goes into it then they should get off their butts and write something for it ;) +1 Great job, hope you keep hanging on ;-) -- Nicola Ken Barozzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) - -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002
+1 on no biding peer review But the sequence of events Pier suggested seems fine (1) The volunteer list editors post submissions to the general list and copy their own DEV list. [NEWS] July 2002 - Struts copy/ (2) The volunteer newsletter editor collects the submissions together and sends it out on announcements like a digest. If there were comments, it would be up to the newsletter editor that month to decide whether to commit them to the newsletter or not; perhaps consulting with the committers for the product first. -Ted. Peter Donald wrote: I would actually prefer no peer review (or at least no binding peer review). If people want to have a say what goes into it then they should get off their butts and write something for it ;) I am sure that the writers will be at responsible enough (and if not we can yank their privlidges to post it to announcement list) At 04:19 PM 6/5/2002 +0100, you wrote: Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 0 Date: May 2002 Great job... I'd like to propose the following: peer review on this mailing list, vote request, and then send it off on announcements... This can be done every month if Rob is willing to keep up with the pace of my flamewars. Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY US -- Developing Java Web Applications with Struts -- Tel: +1 585 737-3463 -- Web: http://husted.com/about/services -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002
+1 Paulo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 8:42 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002 On Thu, 6 Jun 2002, Peter Donald wrote: I would actually prefer no peer review (or at least no binding peer review). If people want to have a say what goes into it then they should get off their butts and write something for it ;) +1 Costin I am sure that the writers will be at responsible enough (and if not we can yank their privlidges to post it to announcement list) At 04:19 PM 6/5/2002 +0100, you wrote: Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 0 Date: May 2002 Great job... I'd like to propose the following: peer review on this mailing list, vote request, and then send it off on announcements... This can be done every month if Rob is willing to keep up with the pace of my flamewars. Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002
GREAT job Rob. I like the level of detail very much. For me it should be no less detailed: if it is to save me the hassle of following a list, the newsletter MUST have some detail. I am not expecting a management digest - I am a developer and not a manager. I am talking in the first person but I am guessing that we do not have many of those managers that like to avoid the technical details around. The mail archive URLs are also very nice. Regards, Paulo Gaspar -Original Message- From: Rob Oxspring [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:41 AM To: 'Jakarta General List' Subject: RE: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002 Thanks Erik, I think its gonna take a few of us keeping it high priority to get the ball rolling properly - it took me long enough to get around to this one (though whats 6 months between software engineers) - i.e. although a calendar alarm has been set for next month, prods and reminders are definitely appreciated :) You are probably right re the level of detail - its partially just my style showing through but also because I thought it'd look a bit empty with just general, ant and commons on there. I think a lot of this sort of thing will vary with the style of the individual column authors and the level of activity within each project, IMHO this variation should make it a more interesting read and should be encouraged - at least for the first few months while we don't know what's best. Rob -Original Message- From: Erik Hatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 5 June 2002 23:45 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002 Rob, Very nice. I've been keeping this idea high on my to-do list and I'm glad to see you finally get to it. This is more detailed than future ones probably should be, and that would likely be the case when other projects get incorporated anyway. Great job, and you can count on me assisting you with this in any way possible in the future. Erik - Original Message - From: Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:57 AM Subject: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002 Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 0 Date: May 2002 A Jakarta newsletter has been mentioned a few times on the general list and so I figured it was high time that one was produced. The discussions previously seemed to settle on a monthly affair with a a regular change of editorship. The aim is that for the future, different people will take over different sections for a limited period so that nobody gets bogged down with the chore unless they want to - some lists may have a series of volunteers step up, other projects may choose to add newsletter editing as a regular responsibility for each of their active committers. Hopefully this will lead to a dynamic monthly newsletter that can be sent out on the announcement list (or a new newsletter one) and try to keep people informed of what all the projects are up to without having to monitor all the projects This issue is entirely edited my myself rather than a set of developers and as a direct result is limited to the dev lists I monitor properly. With luck others will help out future issues providing a varied style and more complete content. Rob Oxspring General === This month saw the first ever veto of a new committer in the Tomcat subproject. [1] The resulting threads from this discussed how much a person should have to do before being given committer rights [2] and what they should have had to do. This in turn lead to a proposed rethink of the current rights and roles at Jakarta - can non-coders be committers? should people be given voting rights without CVS access? - should they be given CVS access without the hassle of voting rights? The answers seemed to be probably, possibly and probably not respectively [3] On a similar note, there was a brief look at how best to welcome and nurture volunteers to keep Jakarta growing and progressing [4] An announcement of a new in house mail archive using EyeBrowse [5] lead to a few threads regarding the infrastructure available at Jakarta. The main focus was on whether to switch from Bugzilla to Scarab [6,7] although Subversion was also mentioned with anticipation. There was also discussion of the best way to measure project activity and how useful such a metric would be [8]. Related to the infrastructure and to project activity, Maven was advocated by Jon Scott Stevens as a build system we should all be using. The ensuing flame war included a lot of Centipede vs Maven, XSL vs Velocity, and other Ego clashes. The result seems
Re: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002
Great stuff! +1 How would you like us to submit articles/notes to you? On 6/5/02 9:57 AM, Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 0 Date: May 2002 [SNIP] -- Geir Magnusson Jr. Research Development, Adeptra Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-203-247-1713 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002
Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 0 Date: May 2002 A Jakarta newsletter has been mentioned a few times on the general list and so I figured it was high time that one was produced. The discussions previously seemed to settle on a monthly affair with a a regular change of editorship. The aim is that for the future, different people will take over different sections for a limited period so that nobody gets bogged down with the chore unless they want to - some lists may have a series of volunteers step up, other projects may choose to add newsletter editing as a regular responsibility for each of their active committers. Hopefully this will lead to a dynamic monthly newsletter that can be sent out on the announcement list (or a new newsletter one) and try to keep people informed of what all the projects are up to without having to monitor all the projects This issue is entirely edited my myself rather than a set of developers and as a direct result is limited to the dev lists I monitor properly. With luck others will help out future issues providing a varied style and more complete content. Rob Oxspring General === This month saw the first ever veto of a new committer in the Tomcat subproject. [1] The resulting threads from this discussed how much a person should have to do before being given committer rights [2] and what they should have had to do. This in turn lead to a proposed rethink of the current rights and roles at Jakarta - can non-coders be committers? should people be given voting rights without CVS access? - should they be given CVS access without the hassle of voting rights? The answers seemed to be probably, possibly and probably not respectively [3] On a similar note, there was a brief look at how best to welcome and nurture volunteers to keep Jakarta growing and progressing [4] An announcement of a new in house mail archive using EyeBrowse [5] lead to a few threads regarding the infrastructure available at Jakarta. The main focus was on whether to switch from Bugzilla to Scarab [6,7] although Subversion was also mentioned with anticipation. There was also discussion of the best way to measure project activity and how useful such a metric would be [8]. Related to the infrastructure and to project activity, Maven was advocated by Jon Scott Stevens as a build system we should all be using. The ensuing flame war included a lot of Centipede vs Maven, XSL vs Velocity, and other Ego clashes. The result seems to have been that some commons projects have switched to maven and that several people have begun to think about what is and isn't provided by the Forest / Gump / Maven / Centipede projects - Surely good things will come. Instead of pointing to specific threads here I'll just suggest that you search the archives for the countless threads along the lines of Quick! convert all your projects to maven!, You make the decision, You guys are so funny, and [PROPOSAL] Centaven and Friends. It was noted that the general list seems to be targeted for advertising Jakarta support but that there should be a better place for this. The discussion [9] lead to a new page on the web site listing providers of Jakarta support [10]. Should database related technology have its own Apache project? the theme of a language per project at Apache could be lost, but is this a problem? Read the full thread [11] and see what you think. [1] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10222159092r=1w=2n=11 [2] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10222634452r=1w=2n=24 [3] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10222816225r=1w=2n=99 [4] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10222976112r=1w=2n=11 [5] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10204510812r=1w=2n=23 [6] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10204574701r=1w=4n=14 [7] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10219434461r=1w=2n=10 [8] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10211291743r=1w=2n=12 [9] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10212772502r=1w=2n=27 [10] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10213983331r=1w=2n=12 [11] - http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10203755791r=1w=2n=53 Ant === The first beta of version 1.5 was released this month, provoking lots of bug fixing and doc patching [12]. A difference causing some confusion this time round was that the optional.jar is now included as the main distribution [13] and this also moved into discussions of how to repeat the builds and how the rpm version should be created and installed [14]. By the time you read this the second beta should have been released. As well as having to decide whether to include the optional.jar file, the jaxp implementation also cropped up. The crux of the discussion revolves around whether we should be distributing Xalan as well as Xerces, and indeed, whether we are allowed not to? See the discussion [15,16] for the breakdown of pros and cons. Checking for compatibility with Mac OS X is important for the next release as there were some problems to be fixed [17
RE: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002
Yup, this is great stuff. Kind of like kernel-traffic (http://kt.zork.net/kernel-traffic/latest.html) for Jakarta. Thanks much, Tom -Original Message- From: Leo Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 9:09 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002 So is it worth bothering with each month? Feedback wanted! :) yeah. I enjoyed it ;) 1) Should we have an archive on the web site (xdoc copy attached as my +1) of course, though the easiest way to archive is to link to the mail archive. 2) Which list should it post to? - its aimed at people that aren't subscribed to too many of the lists so announcements seems the most likely current option, although maybe a separate newsletter@ would be the way forward - eitherway I'd guess replies should go to general@. newsletter@ if this proves to be a success. Keep it on general for now... 3) Editors for the various sections will be required - I'm sure I didn't do commons justice and editing is far from what I'm good at anyway - so please step forward if you want to edit for a project. not stepping forward just yet (hoping someone else will), but I can handle all of avalon. 4) I guess I'll put out a request for content around the 28th and aim to release in the week of July 1st. cool beans. thanks for doin' this! - Leo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002
Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 0 Date: May 2002 Great job... I'd like to propose the following: peer review on this mailing list, vote request, and then send it off on announcements... This can be done every month if Rob is willing to keep up with the pace of my flamewars. Pier -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jakarta Newsletter - May 2002
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002, Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So is it worth bothering with each month? Feedback wanted! :) Great job! I second Pier's suggestion to peer-review here and send the newsletter to announce after that. Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
