Re: [gentoo-amd64] 32-bit firefox
Kow, who happens to be smarter than you, thinks: > Mark, if you get any random segfaults (FireFox 32-bit will just randomly > close down) with Flash please tell me... me and a few others have the same > problem. I want to figure out if it's situational or if it will occur for > any 32-bit Flash running in 32-bit Emulation. I have the same problem.. the netscape-flash package can be installed on ~amd64 and installs the plug-in in the common directory for both firefoxs (32 n 64) so when (i'm not sure) the 64bits firefox tries to load a 32bits library it crash. How I workaround it? Well, there is an Firefox extension called 'FlashBlock'[1] so when a page have flash it only shows a play button.. in this way i can press play button in the 32bits firefox and see the flash page, and also avoiding that 64bits firefox crash. I fine with that.. maybe netscape-flash on amd64 must install the plugin (overiding the nsplugins eclass behavior) in the /opt directory only for 32bits flash. Also you want to take a look at bug #82060 [2] [1] http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ [2] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82060 -- What hath Bob wrought? -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] 32-bit firefox
On Saturday 19 February 2005 11:43 pm, Taylor Morrow wrote: > I use flash player in the 32-bit emulation and have never had any > segfaults. Ditto here. The 64-bit firefox on the other hand has tended to be nothing but trouble. It usually segfaults when trying to autocomplete a form entry... pgpgT0kusIr0z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-amd64] 32-bit firefox
>> I use flash player in the 32-bit emulation and have never had any >> segfaults. > Ditto here. The 64-bit firefox on the other hand has tended to be nothing but > trouble. It usually segfaults when trying to autocomplete a form entry... lets hope it would be better, why did developpers not spot casting errors, and comparing of 2 varialbles with diffrence size, or when variables have limited ranges and allways being true or false, i still love my amd64 -- If Microsoft is the solution, I want my problem back. -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-amd64] nvidia question (new user)
I have emerged nvidia-glx, and am following the instructions here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml The instructions say to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config or /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the driver line to nvidia. However, I don't have either of those two files, and if I did, I don't know which one to edit (I don't know whether my system uses XFree86 or Xorg). What should I do next? Thanks -- Mark Creamer -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] nvidia question (new user)
You have emerged xorg-x11 already, right? Should be there if you have Also, you'll need nvidia-kernel too, that gives you the actualy kernel module On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:21:02 -0500, Mark Creamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have emerged nvidia-glx, and am following the instructions here: > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml > > The instructions say to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config or /etc/X11/xorg.conf to > change the driver line to nvidia. However, I don't have either of those two > files, and if I did, I don't know which one to edit (I don't know whether my > system uses XFree86 or Xorg). What should I do next? Thanks > -- > Mark Creamer > > -- > gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-amd64] Bootstrap failure
Hi, I got this error while bootstrap is compiling GCC. checking whether the C compiler works... configure: error: cannot run C compiled programs. If you meant to cross compile, use `--host'. See `config.log' for more details. make[1]: *** [configure-target-libstdc++-v3] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/gcc-3.4.3-r1/work/build' make: *** [profiledbootstrap] Error 2 !!! ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-3.4.3-r1 failed. !!! Function gcc_do_make, Line 1113, Exitcode 2 !!! make failed with profiledbootstrap !!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message. Here's my emerge --info: livecd portage # emerge --info Portage 2.0.51-r15 (default-linux/amd64/2004.3, gcc-3.4.2, glibc-2.3.4.20041102-r0, 2.6.9-gentoo-r1 x86_64) = System uname: 2.6.9-gentoo-r1 x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ Gentoo Base System version 1.4.16 Python: [2.3.4 (#1, Oct 28 2004, 03:17:30)] dev-lang/python: [Not Present] sys-devel/autoconf: [Not Present] sys-devel/automake: [Not Present] sys-devel/binutils: 2.15.92.0.2-r1 sys-devel/libtool: [Not Present] virtual/os-headers: 2.6.8.1-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64" AUTOCLEAN="yes" CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe" CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/kde/2/share/config /usr/kde/3/share/config /usr/share/config /var/qmail/control" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/gconf /etc/terminfo /etc/env.d" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -pipe" DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" FEATURES="autoaddcvs autoconfig ccache distlocks sandbox" GENTOO_MIRRORS="http://gentoo.blueyonder.co.uk"; MAKEOPTS="-j2" PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" PORTDIR="/usr/portage" SYNC="rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage" USE="amd64 acpi alsa berkdb bitmap-fonts cdr crypt dvd f77 font-server fortran gif gpm ipv6 java jp2 jpeg kde lzw lzw-tiff multilib ncurses nls nptl nptlonly opengl oss perl png python qt readline ssl tcpd tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts usb userlocales xml2 xpm xrandr xv zlib" Unset: ASFLAGS, CBUILD, CTARGET, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY Any hints? Thanks. -- Money can't buy everything. Sometimes money can't even buy a gun... -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] nvidia question (new user)
Mark Creamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have emerged nvidia-glx, and am following the instructions here: > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml > > The instructions say to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config or /etc/X11/xorg.conf to > change the driver line to nvidia. However, I don't have either of those two > files, and if I did, I don't know which one to edit (I don't know whether my > system uses XFree86 or Xorg). What should I do next? Thanks You need to `emerge xorg-x11' and then edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and also you need to `emerge nvidia-kernel' for what you are doing. With the nvidia graphics cards you can choose to use either the driver that comes with X.org, called `nv', or the driver from NVidia, called `nvidia'. `nvidia' is more difficult to keep working, but has 3-D acceleration, while `nv' probably will never give you trouble, if you do not need really fast 3-D graphics. `nvidia' also has `digital vibrance', which I consider a bad idea, but I used to use it and you may also wish to, in which case you need the `nvidia' stuff. After deciding that `digital vibrance' was a bad idea, I unmerged all the `nvidia' stuff and just use the `nv' driver that comes with X.org. 3-D graphics still works a reasonable speed, but I'm not playing video games or doing anything else like that. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.chemoelectric.org "I have directed that in the future I sign each letter." -- Rumsfeld pgpuOZuJ8wSM7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Bootstrap failure
Qian Qiao wrote: Any hints? Got the same problem at the moment. So far I've found 1 thread on the gentoo.org forums: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-283682.html - Kevin -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Bootstrap failure
kevin wrote: Qian Qiao wrote: Any hints? Got the same problem at the moment. So far I've found 1 thread on the gentoo.org forums: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-283682.html - Kevin -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list FEATURES="-sandbox" USE="multlilib" emerge gcc Worked for me. --Winston signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Bootstrap failure
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:50:28 -0600, Winston Messer > > FEATURES="-sandbox" USE="multlilib" emerge gcc > > Worked for me. > > --Winston > That solved the problem. Thanks a lot. -- Money can't buy everything. Sometimes money can't even buy a gun... -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-amd64] Recommendations for Intel Xeon
I'm getting a server with Intel Xeon CPUs that support EM64T (Intel's version of AMD64). Would you recommend sticking with i686 compile options for a production-level server? What are the benefits of compiling with 64-bit support? Is the speed difference (if any) worth the potential loss of stability? Thanks. -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] nvidia question (new user)
Sorry Drew...I accidentally replied directly rather than to the list. Anyway, I finished with the emerge of xorg-x11, but still no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 There is a xorg.conf.example though. Am I to use that and rename it? On Sunday 20 February 2005 02:35 pm, Drew Kirkpatrick wrote: > You have emerged xorg-x11 already, right? Should be there if you have > Also, you'll need nvidia-kernel too, that gives you the actualy kernel > module > > On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 14:21:02 -0500, Mark Creamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have emerged nvidia-glx, and am following the instructions here: > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml > > > > The instructions say to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config or /etc/X11/xorg.conf to > > change the driver line to nvidia. However, I don't have either of those > > two files, and if I did, I don't know which one to edit (I don't know > > whether my system uses XFree86 or Xorg). What should I do next? Thanks > > -- > > Mark Creamer > > > > -- > > gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- Mark Creamer -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] nvidia question (new user)
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:16:56 -0500, Mark Creamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sorry Drew...I accidentally replied directly rather than to the list. > > Anyway, I finished with the emerge of xorg-x11, but still no xorg.conf file > in /etc/X11 > > There is a xorg.conf.example though. Am I to use that and rename it? Xorg -configure -- Money can't buy everything. Sometimes money can't even buy a gun... -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] nvidia question (new user)
Mark Creamer wrote: Sorry Drew...I accidentally replied directly rather than to the list. Anyway, I finished with the emerge of xorg-x11, but still no xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 There is a xorg.conf.example though. Am I to use that and rename it? yes -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Recommendations for Intel Xeon
On Sunday 20 February 2005 22:07, gentoo-user wrote: > I'm getting a server with Intel Xeon CPUs that support EM64T (Intel's > version of AMD64). Would you recommend sticking with i686 compile options > for a production-level server? What are the benefits of compiling with > 64-bit support? Is the speed difference (if any) worth the potential loss > of stability? From what I've heard, Intel's x86_64 CPUs really are just x86 with added 64-bit emulation on the chip. 64-bit code therefore runs slower, etc... Might want to confirm it from someone who actually has one, though. -- Luke-Jr Developer, Utopios http://utopios.org/ -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Recommendations for Intel Xeon
In some situations the Xeons running in 64-bit mode are faster and in some situations they are not. For the full details on this, read my review here: http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/27/204232 Hopefully that will clear some things up. I am completing my review of the new Pentium 4s with the same 64-bit core. That may shed even more light onto the situation. Check LinuxHardware.org within the next week for that review. Thanks, Kris Kersey (Augustus) LinuxHardware.org Site Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux AMD64 Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 20 Feb 2005, Luke-Jr wrote: On Sunday 20 February 2005 22:07, gentoo-user wrote: I'm getting a server with Intel Xeon CPUs that support EM64T (Intel's version of AMD64). Would you recommend sticking with i686 compile options for a production-level server? What are the benefits of compiling with 64-bit support? Is the speed difference (if any) worth the potential loss of stability? From what I've heard, Intel's x86_64 CPUs really are just x86 with added 64-bit emulation on the chip. 64-bit code therefore runs slower, etc... Might want to confirm it from someone who actually has one, though. -- Luke-Jr Developer, Utopios http://utopios.org/ -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Recommendations for Intel Xeon
One of the biggest differences is that EMT64 has no IOMMU. http://lwn.net/Articles/91870/ Here is a report of a successful gentoo AMD64 install on EMT64 Xeons: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-295203-highlight-emt64.html The user concludes that the performance difference between 32 and 64bit on EMT64 is not as significant as with AMD64. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In some situations the Xeons running in 64-bit mode are faster and in some situations they are not. For the full details on this, read my review here: http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/27/204232 Hopefully that will clear some things up. I am completing my review of the new Pentium 4s with the same 64-bit core. That may shed even more light onto the situation. Check LinuxHardware.org within the next week for that review. Thanks, Kris Kersey (Augustus) LinuxHardware.org Site Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Linux AMD64 Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sun, 20 Feb 2005, Luke-Jr wrote: On Sunday 20 February 2005 22:07, gentoo-user wrote: I'm getting a server with Intel Xeon CPUs that support EM64T (Intel's version of AMD64). Would you recommend sticking with i686 compile options for a production-level server? What are the benefits of compiling with 64-bit support? Is the speed difference (if any) worth the potential loss of stability? From what I've heard, Intel's x86_64 CPUs really are just x86 with added 64-bit emulation on the chip. 64-bit code therefore runs slower, etc... Might want to confirm it from someone who actually has one, though. -- Luke-Jr Developer, Utopios http://utopios.org/ -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] nvidia question (new user)
Still no file. I must be doing something wrong. My system is configured for graphical login. So when the login prompt comes up, I choose a terminal session login. That closes the graphical login and leaves me at a command prompt login. I login as root and execute: /usr/bin/X11/Xorg -configure. The screen goes blank for a second, and then comes back, no indication of an error. A few seconds later the graphical login is back. I log in, but no xorg.conf to edit. Am I going about this wrong? On Sunday 20 February 2005 06:20 pm, Qian Qiao wrote: > On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 18:16:56 -0500, Mark Creamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry Drew...I accidentally replied directly rather than to the list. > > > > Anyway, I finished with the emerge of xorg-x11, but still no xorg.conf > > file in /etc/X11 > > > > There is a xorg.conf.example though. Am I to use that and rename it? > > Xorg -configure -- Mark Creamer -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] nvidia question (new user)
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:36:40 -0500, Mark Creamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Still no file. I must be doing something wrong. > > My system is configured for graphical login. So when the login prompt comes > up, I choose a terminal session login. That closes the graphical login and > leaves me at a command prompt login. I login as root and > execute: /usr/bin/X11/Xorg -configure. The screen goes blank for a second, > and then comes back, no indication of an error. A few seconds later the > graphical login is back. I log in, but no xorg.conf to edit. Am I going about > this wrong? My typo, should be Xorg -config that should generate /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Sry -- Joe -- Money can't buy everything. Sometimes money can't even buy a gun... -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-amd64] nvidia question (new user)
there's also a good tutorial of setting up xorg in the gentoo-wiki. Finally, I just installed xorg and nvidia on my system. (Note. It still seems to screw up the symlinking, because my PKG_CONFIG_PATH now needs to be manually set to point to /usr/lib64 as well. Something seems to be awry on my system after installing xorg.) Anyway, to cut a long story short, I commented out DRI, and set the default bitdepth to 24bit because it kept defaulting to 8 bit, and it worked great (getting around 7000 fps on glxgears). On 21/02/2005, at 2:02 PM, Qian Qiao wrote: On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 20:36:40 -0500, Mark Creamer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Still no file. I must be doing something wrong. My system is configured for graphical login. So when the login prompt comes up, I choose a terminal session login. That closes the graphical login and leaves me at a command prompt login. I login as root and execute: /usr/bin/X11/Xorg -configure. The screen goes blank for a second, and then comes back, no indication of an error. A few seconds later the graphical login is back. I log in, but no xorg.conf to edit. Am I going about this wrong? My typo, should be Xorg -config that should generate /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Sry -- Joe -- Money can't buy everything. Sometimes money can't even buy a gun... -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
