[gentoo-amd64] reiser4 desktop - worth it?

2005-06-24 Thread Andrew Watson

I have read that its quite useable now, is anyone running reiser4 ?

Is it worth it in terms of performence and reliability?
also, is it safe to run all partitions including / on reiser4.

Im doing a fresh install (moving up to a raid system) how do I go about 
setting it up for reiser4?


Thanks


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] portage/emerge and rebooting questions

2005-06-24 Thread Alastair Murray
Tres Melton wrote:

   I was reading the minutes of the gcc summit and it seems that the
 register allocator is going to get reworked again.  Although it will be
 quite sometime for any changes to make their way down to us users when
 they do is that going to mean a complete rebuild of our systems?  If a
 function caller places its arguments in one set of registers and the
 callee uses different registers to receive the arguments in there is
 going to be problems.  Well this issue can wait until the compiler gurus
 tell us how to deal with it.

Well, I'll give a brief answer to this one: This isn't an issue. In the
cases were registers are used to pass variables between function the ABI
defines which registers should be used.  Not that registers are always used.

Basically the register allocator just decides which different
temporaries or variables shall be stored in a register at a given point
and which shall be spilled out to memory (though of course any value
which is being currently used by a calculation must be in a register).

Regards, Alastair Murray.
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] reiser4 desktop - worth it?

2005-06-24 Thread Tres Melton
On Fri, 2005-06-24 at 16:15 -0700, Anthony Gorecki wrote:
 On Friday, June 24, 2005 10:23 am, Andrew Watson wrote:
  Is it worth it in terms of performence and reliability?
  also, is it safe to run all partitions including / on reiser4.
 
 Reiser4 does not presently work with AMD64 architectures, so unless you want 
 to lose your data, don't use it on an AMD64. If you want a vanilla kernel 
 that supports Reiser4, you'll need to wait until version 2.6.13 is released.

Or later, Andrew is just considering it and has asked Hans Reiser to
remove the fs module loading stuff as he believes that it should be in
the VFS layer and not the FS layer.

 I'm considering using Reiser4 for my own desktop machine, in addition to a 
 pair of servers; I am, however, still fairly dubious about the author's 
 grounding in sane filesystem design. While Reiser4 as it is seems to be 
 usable, its future development plans (such as they are) concern me.

I believe that Hans, the author of Reiserfs, has a firm understanding of
FS design.  I also believe that he is pushing it into areas that no one
ever considered before and some of those might be dangerous to your
data.  Directories as files is definitely different from most of the
other FS's but when he gets modules going it is going to be very cool
and very scary.  Cool when you can plugin whatever encryption module you
want and scary because if there is a hiccup anywhere your data might
never be recoverable.

 Beware of Ciaran.

Yes, Ciaran loves to laugh at people that lose their data on that
particular FS.  ;-)  If a file-system became corrupt and the world was
going to end if it could not be recovered he would, in his best Nelson
for the Simpsons voice, probably say, Ha, ha.  Let the world end!

I highly suggest backups for the adventurous.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] reiser4 desktop - worth it?

2005-06-24 Thread Anthony Gorecki
On Friday, June 24, 2005 4:32 pm, Tres Melton wrote:
 Cool when you can plugin whatever encryption module you
 want and scary because if there is a hiccup anywhere your data might
 never be recoverable.

That quite accurately sums up my concerns regarding the filesystem . :)


Do you happen to know when the filesystem will be reworked to function 
correctly on AMD64 systems? I've been considering an upgrade to a pair of 
dual core Opterons, and I'd like to be able to use Reiser4 over Infiniband 
with a SAN array.


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] reiser4 desktop - worth it?

2005-06-24 Thread Tres Melton
On Fri, 2005-06-24 at 17:13 -0700, Anthony Gorecki wrote:
 On Friday, June 24, 2005 5:01 pm, Tres Melton wrote:
  mirroring the data on each Opteron
 
 This I don't understand. How can you mirror filesystem data on a CPU? The 
 motherboard (for the desktop machine) would likely be one of the Tyan dual 
 Opteron configurations.

I thought you meant dual servers.  Sorry.
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