[gentoo-amd64] Re: Slideshow screensaver with multiple monitors

2007-07-13 Thread Duncan
Hamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on  Fri, 13
Jul 2007 22:28:31 +0100:

> They're useful to lock the screen. My laptop lives on my desk @ work
> during the day. Since I work in a security area the computers have to be
> locked when we step away from them.
> 
> Using a screen saver for this is handy, because not only does KDE have a
> useful lock button, it also timesout and starts when KDE has bene idle
> for a time so if I get distracted it does it for me.
> 
> It also means my screen isn't viewable by passers by if I'm not in front
> of it...

That's what the "blank" screensaver's for! =8^)  Set it to activate/lock 
1 minute before the power turns off, or at the same time.

However, at least once one switches to LCDs so the energy burn isn't so 
high, in a public place, yes, a tasteful screensaver can be nice.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Slideshow screensaver with multiple monitors

2007-07-13 Thread Hamie
On Friday 13 July 2007 19:02, Duncan wrote:
> Hamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
> [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on  Fri, 13
>
> Jul 2007 17:59:13 +0100:
> > Has anyone managed to get the screensaver (KDE) when in slideshow with
> > photos to display a whole photo per monitor, rather than trying to
> > display a single photo spread out over multiple monitors?
> >
> > Other than that it works fine... But since my monitors are different
> > sizes & dpi it would look a great deal better if each screen had its own
> > photo (This is running X in either real xinerama, or pseudo xinerama
> > modes).
>
> FWIW, while I'm a KDE guy, I don't normally run screensavers.  Rather, I
> have the system put my monitors to sleep.  Or sometimes I run amarok or
> kaffeine with visualizations (on one or both screens, they're 21 and 22
> inch, so close enough, and both 1600x1200) and don't have them go to
> sleep.  The amarok corona visualization can be quite restful.
>
> To each his own, of course, but I just never found most screensavers
> useful or interesting after the novelty wore off, in part due to issues
> such as the one you mention.
>

They're useful to lock the screen. My laptop lives on my desk @ work during 
the day. Since I work in a security area the computers have to be locked when 
we step away from them. 

Using a screen saver for this is handy, because not only does KDE have a 
useful lock button, it also timesout and starts when KDE has bene idle for a 
time so if I get distracted it does it for me.

It also means my screen isn't viewable by passers by if I'm not in front of 
it...

Hamish.


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Files installed to /lib or /usr/lib?

2007-07-13 Thread Olivier Crête
On Fri, 2007-13-07 at 16:52 -0400, Daniel Gryniewicz wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 22:01 +0200, Sven Köhler wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > what's the current way of dealing with the folders /lib and /usr/lib
> > which are symlinks to /lib64 or /usr/lib64 on amd64 systems?
> > 
> > Here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185126#c3
> > one of the gentoo devs (Jakub) thought, that paths like /usr/lib
> > shouldn't be hardcoded. Hmm - to me, this statement only makes sense, if
> > ebuilds installing files to /lib or /usr/lib are actually disliked.
> > 
> > But actually, very fundamental stuff like udev, grub-static, etc.
> > still install there files to /lib or /usr/lib instead of /lib64 or
> > /usr/lib64.
> > 
> > So should these packages be fixed?
> > Or is it intentional or at least legal, that they install files to /lib
> > or /usr/lib on amd64?
> > 
> 
> binary libraries should not be installed to /usr/lib or /lib (and will
> fail multilib-strict checks, if they are).  Anything else, such as
> python files or text files, can be installed in /usr/lib and /lib.

Even then, anything that is different between architectures should be
in /usr/lib.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Files installed to /lib or /usr/lib?

2007-07-13 Thread Daniel Gryniewicz

On Fri, 2007-07-13 at 22:01 +0200, Sven Köhler wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> what's the current way of dealing with the folders /lib and /usr/lib
> which are symlinks to /lib64 or /usr/lib64 on amd64 systems?
> 
> Here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185126#c3
> one of the gentoo devs (Jakub) thought, that paths like /usr/lib
> shouldn't be hardcoded. Hmm - to me, this statement only makes sense, if
> ebuilds installing files to /lib or /usr/lib are actually disliked.
> 
> But actually, very fundamental stuff like udev, grub-static, etc.
> still install there files to /lib or /usr/lib instead of /lib64 or
> /usr/lib64.
> 
> So should these packages be fixed?
> Or is it intentional or at least legal, that they install files to /lib
> or /usr/lib on amd64?
> 

binary libraries should not be installed to /usr/lib or /lib (and will
fail multilib-strict checks, if they are).  Anything else, such as
python files or text files, can be installed in /usr/lib and /lib.

Daniel

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] 2.6.22 and the rt2500/rt2x00 wireless drivers

2007-07-13 Thread Marc Redmann
> Starting with kernel 2.6.22, NET_RADIO is apparently no longer a
> configuration parameter, so I can't compile the rt2500 legacy driver,
> nor can I compile the newer rt2x00 driver which also depends on NET_RADIO.

Just guessing: Maybe your problem has something to do with the newly 
introduced WLAN stack starting with 2.6.22 ...

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[gentoo-amd64] Files installed to /lib or /usr/lib?

2007-07-13 Thread Sven Köhler
Hi,

what's the current way of dealing with the folders /lib and /usr/lib
which are symlinks to /lib64 or /usr/lib64 on amd64 systems?

Here: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185126#c3
one of the gentoo devs (Jakub) thought, that paths like /usr/lib
shouldn't be hardcoded. Hmm - to me, this statement only makes sense, if
ebuilds installing files to /lib or /usr/lib are actually disliked.

But actually, very fundamental stuff like udev, grub-static, etc.
still install there files to /lib or /usr/lib instead of /lib64 or
/usr/lib64.

So should these packages be fixed?
Or is it intentional or at least legal, that they install files to /lib
or /usr/lib on amd64?


Thanks,
  Sven



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Re: [gentoo-amd64] gcc64 use flag

2007-07-13 Thread Mark Knecht

Thanks!
- Mark

On 7/13/07, Drake Donahue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


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To: 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 1:51 PM
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] gcc64 use flag


> Hi all,
>   This morning I was looking at doing some updates and noticed the
> gcc64 use flag on linex-headers. Although this is an AMD64 machine
> I've not been using this flag and am wondering if I should be? What
> exactly does it do?
>
> [ebuild U ] sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.21 [2.6.17-r2]
> USE="(-gcc64%)" 4,287 kB
>
>
> lightning ~ # emerge -pv =sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.17-r2
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R   ] sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.17-r2  USE="(-gcc64)" 0 kB
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
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An old friend said:

The USE flag is only effective on ppc64 and sparc where the kernel sometimes
is the only code that is compiled 64bit and therefore a seperate, much
smaller version of gcc is used to build the kernel. The flag should in fact
be masked everywhere except for those profiles, which is what bug 144535 [1]
deals with.
[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144535

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] gcc64 use flag

2007-07-13 Thread Drake Donahue


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Knecht" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 1:51 PM
Subject: [gentoo-amd64] gcc64 use flag



Hi all,
  This morning I was looking at doing some updates and noticed the
gcc64 use flag on linex-headers. Although this is an AMD64 machine
I've not been using this flag and am wondering if I should be? What
exactly does it do?

[ebuild U ] sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.21 [2.6.17-r2]
USE="(-gcc64%)" 4,287 kB


lightning ~ # emerge -pv =sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.17-r2

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.17-r2  USE="(-gcc64)" 0 kB

Thanks,
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An old friend said:

The USE flag is only effective on ppc64 and sparc where the kernel sometimes 
is the only code that is compiled 64bit and therefore a seperate, much 
smaller version of gcc is used to build the kernel. The flag should in fact 
be masked everywhere except for those profiles, which is what bug 144535 [1] 
deals with.

[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144535

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] gcc64 use flag

2007-07-13 Thread Ken
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Mark Knecht wrote:
> Hi all,
>   This morning I was looking at doing some updates and noticed the
> gcc64 use flag on linex-headers. Although this is an AMD64 machine
> I've not been using this flag and am wondering if I should be? What
> exactly does it do?
> 
> [ebuild U ] sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.21 [2.6.17-r2]
> USE="(-gcc64%)" 4,287 kB
> 
> 
> lightning ~ # emerge -pv =sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.17-r2
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R   ] sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.17-r2  USE="(-gcc64)" 0 kB
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark

The flag seems to be disabled so it seems you shouldn't be using it. I
am not sure what it exactly does, but the Gentoo use flag page says "Use
64-bit kernel compiler" for gcc64. I'd assume since it's unchangeable at
this point it doesn't matter anymore.

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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Slideshow screensaver with multiple monitors

2007-07-13 Thread Duncan
Hamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on  Fri, 13
Jul 2007 17:59:13 +0100:

> Has anyone managed to get the screensaver (KDE) when in slideshow with
> photos to display a whole photo per monitor, rather than trying to
> display a single photo spread out over multiple monitors?
> 
> Other than that it works fine... But since my monitors are different
> sizes & dpi it would look a great deal better if each screen had its own
> photo (This is running X in either real xinerama, or pseudo xinerama
> modes).

FWIW, while I'm a KDE guy, I don't normally run screensavers.  Rather, I 
have the system put my monitors to sleep.  Or sometimes I run amarok or 
kaffeine with visualizations (on one or both screens, they're 21 and 22 
inch, so close enough, and both 1600x1200) and don't have them go to 
sleep.  The amarok corona visualization can be quite restful.

To each his own, of course, but I just never found most screensavers 
useful or interesting after the novelty wore off, in part due to issues 
such as the one you mention.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] emerge madwifi-ng

2007-07-13 Thread Jeffrey Gardner
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Tonko Mulder wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> when I want to emerge madwifi-ng it fails for some reason.

I see you're using a 2.6.22 kernel.  Something has fundamentally changed
within that kernel so that madwifi-ng-0.9.3* will no longer build.
I've had success by stepping outside portage and installing from the
latest madwifi svn, but it's on mactel hardware, and there I'm relying
heavily on overlays and things I've manually installed.
My advice is to either go back to a 2.6.21 kernel for awhile, or use the
madwifi subversion repository.

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[gentoo-amd64] gcc64 use flag

2007-07-13 Thread Mark Knecht

Hi all,
  This morning I was looking at doing some updates and noticed the
gcc64 use flag on linex-headers. Although this is an AMD64 machine
I've not been using this flag and am wondering if I should be? What
exactly does it do?

[ebuild U ] sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.21 [2.6.17-r2]
USE="(-gcc64%)" 4,287 kB


lightning ~ # emerge -pv =sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.17-r2

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-kernel/linux-headers-2.6.17-r2  USE="(-gcc64)" 0 kB

Thanks,
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[gentoo-amd64] Slideshow screensaver with multiple monitors

2007-07-13 Thread Hamie
Hi.

Has anyone managed to get the screensaver (KDE) when in slideshow with photos 
to display a whole photo per monitor, rather than trying to display a single 
photo spread out over multiple monitors?

Other than that it works fine... But since my monitors are different sizes & 
dpi it would look a great deal better if each screen had its own photo (This 
is running X in either real xinerama, or pseudo xinerama modes).

TIA
  Hamish.




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[gentoo-amd64] 2.6.22 and the rt2500/rt2x00 wireless drivers

2007-07-13 Thread Vladimir G. Ivanovic
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Kernels before 2.6.22 could be configured with "CONFIG_NET_RADIO=y"
which would allow the rt2500 legacy driver for the Ralink wireless
chipset to compile. I've had this combination working now for over a year.

Starting with kernel 2.6.22, NET_RADIO is apparently no longer a
configuration parameter, so I can't compile the rt2500 legacy driver,
nor can I compile the newer rt2x00 driver which also depends on NET_RADIO.

Has anyone gotten a rt2500/rtx00 driver to compile with 2.6.22? What
patches are needed? Is there a HOWTO somewhere? (The Gentoo Wiki
articles "rt2500 on AMD64" and "rt2x00" don't seem to address my
issue. In any case, neither the latest CVS of rt2500 (2007051606) nor
the latest ebuild (net-wireless/rt2500-1.1.0_pre2007020911) compile
with KERNDIR=/usr/src/linux-.6.22-gentoo-r1. The latest ebuild
compiled just fine with kernels before 2.6.22.)

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins

2007-07-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 13 July 2007 15:55, Christoph Mende wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:44:12 +0100
>
> Peter Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Any ideas on why I get (-nsplugin) on all these? I have USE=nsplugin
> > in /etc/make.conf, but it's being overridden. What's doing that? Have I
> > inadvertently got no-multilib somehow? I've followed the java upgrade
> > guide and its friends, but they shed no light on this one.
>
> They are (-nsplugin) because they're masked on amd64, for the 32bit
> browser plugin use emul-linux-x86-java. Blackdown had a 64bit plugin,
> it still exists, but is masked too because of security issues.

Ah, I see. Thanks. (Just fetching that 60MB file now.)

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[gentoo-amd64] Re: Identifying CPUs in the kernel

2007-07-13 Thread Duncan
Peter Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on  Fri, 13 Jul
2007 15:01:46 +0100:

> So I can't put a case together to raise a bug report, and I'll have to
> accept just-one-of-those-things.

Yeah, that happens.  It can definitely be frustrating, especially since 
because you don't know what caused it, you haven't the foggiest whether 
it'll be back and when. =8^(  However, I've come to the conclusion that 
sometimes you just don't look that horse in the mouth, and chances are, 
it'll be your trusty steed for some time. =8^)

BTW, had a list connectivity glitch and didn't get this reply tacked on 
your last post, but re: Irix/Solaris mode, it seems the manpage says the 
reverse of what it actually does.  Having never used either of the named 
platforms, I can't say whether the manpage or the app is correct in what 
it claims for the modes, but yes, Irix mode ON seems to result in what 
the manpage calls Solaris mode, while Irix mode OFF results in what the 
manpage calls Irix mode.  So at least that part isn't unique to your 
(old) system, as that's the way it works here as well.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins

2007-07-13 Thread Christoph Mende
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:44:12 +0100
Peter Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any ideas on why I get (-nsplugin) on all these? I have USE=nsplugin 
> in /etc/make.conf, but it's being overridden. What's doing that? Have I 
> inadvertently got no-multilib somehow? I've followed the java upgrade guide 
> and its friends, but they shed no light on this one.
> 
They are (-nsplugin) because they're masked on amd64, for the 32bit
browser plugin use emul-linux-x86-java. Blackdown had a 64bit plugin,
it still exists, but is masked too because of security issues.


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[gentoo-amd64] Java Firefox plugins

2007-07-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
Time for another problem  :-(

On this newly installed system (amd64, not ~amd64) I have both 32- and 
64-bit Firefox browsers, and I can't get java plugged into either of them.

$ eselect java-nsplugin list
Available 32-bit Java browser plugins
Available 64-bit Java browser plugins
$ java-config-1 -L
The following JDKs are available for generation-1:
*)  Blackdown JDK 1.4.2.03 [blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03]
$ java-config-2 -L
The following VMs are available for generation-2:
1)  Blackdown JDK 1.4.2.03 [blackdown-jdk-1.4.2]
2)  Sun JDK 1.5.0.11 [sun-jdk-1.5]
*)  Sun JRE 1.6.0.01 [sun-jre-bin-1.6]
$ grep -r nsplugin /etc/* 2> /dev/null
/etc/make.conf: logrotate mono  mp3 mpeg nls nptl nsplugin nvidia ogg opengl 
pdf png sdl smp spell svg truetype unicode usb
/etc/make.profile/no-multilib/package.mask:net-www/nspluginwrapper

(That make.conf line is a continuation of the USE= line. I don't believe 
this is a no-multilib system.)

$ ls -l /etc/make.profile
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 50 2007-07-09 
17:56 /etc/make.profile -> ../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2007.0
$ sudo emerge -1av sun-jre-bin blackdown-jdk sun-jdk

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] dev-java/sun-jre-bin-1.6.0.01-r1  USE="X alsa (-nsplugin)" 0 
kB
[ebuild   R   ] dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03-r15  USE="-doc (-nsplugin)" 
0 kB
[ebuild   R   ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.11  USE="X alsa -doc -examples -jce 
(-nsplugin)" 0 kB

Any ideas on why I get (-nsplugin) on all these? I have USE=nsplugin 
in /etc/make.conf, but it's being overridden. What's doing that? Have I 
inadvertently got no-multilib somehow? I've followed the java upgrade guide 
and its friends, but they shed no light on this one.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Identifying CPUs in the kernel

2007-07-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 13 July 2007 15:01, I wrote:

[various things]

I meant also to say that I started out on this new build using the same CD as 
I'd used before: 2006.1 minimal. When I'd installed a bare system it booted 
OK and seemed healthy enough, but then if I ran "emerge -e system", the 
resulting system would not load the Ethernet module properly, so I was 
incommunicado. I did this several times (until I tired of banging my head 
against that wall), including recompiling the kernel before the remerge, 
after it or both or neither, before giving up and downloading a 2007.0 ISO. 
That one worked fine.

This year is full of puzzles. I don't like mysteries.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Identifying CPUs in the kernel

2007-07-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 23 June 2007 10:52, Duncan wrote:

> Let me know how this goes [...] as I'd like to follow it too.

Well, after quite a bit more work, I'm still none the wiser. I've built a 
new installation from scratch without the ~amd64 key word, and I've tried 
many combinations of kernel parameters. Once or twice I thought I'd found 
it: for instance, it seemed that removing I2C completely caused the faulty 
behaviour to appear, but then putting it back in didn't correct it.

The new system is as independent of the original as possible. The old one 
was on /dev/hd[a,b] and the new is on /dev/sda, which is a SATA disk. I've 
changed the BIOS to boot from SATA first, though I couldn't hide the old 
disks completely - the IDE optical disks /dev/hd[c,d] were then hidden as 
well.

I started with a genkernel kernel, remembering to enable SATA in it 
first  ;-) , then switched to compiling manually, progressively stripping 
out all the extraneous modules and inbuilt features until I had a 
reasonably well tuned kernel. it works just fine.

I also reverted the BIOS to an optimised set of defaults and changed one 
thing at a time to reach (what I think is) the optimum for me. The system 
is working as it should. Soon I'll erase the old partitions - when I'm sure 
I don't need anything else off them.

So I can't put a case together to raise a bug report, and I'll have to 
accept just-one-of-those-things.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: 3200+ -> X2 4000+

2007-07-13 Thread Beso

try using powerthend as a daemon with userspace governor under linux, and in
winzoz download the cpu program for dual core daemon from amd site
powethend gives you the power you need when you need it, and for i have
learned it is able to handle both cores

2007/7/12, Thanasis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


on 07/12/2007 01:17 PM Bernhard Auzinger wrote the following:
 bogomips: 3611.22
 TLB size: 1024 4K pages

 bogomips: 1603.39
 TLB size: 1024 4K pages

 2) Just curious: Why is there such a big difference between the 2
CPUs'
 bogomips values reported?
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>
> There has to be no difference between the two cores on dual-core
processors.
> That's because the bogomips-benchmark is a "calculated" benchmark that
> depends mostly on the clock frequency and since the two cores on
dual-core
> athlons/opterons use the same clock, it's not possible to have different
> values on that type of dual-core processor. I've absolutely identical
values
> (4825.77 bogomips) for both cores of my Athlon64 X2 4600+.
>
> If you have two processors (f.ex. two single-cores) on your mainboard,
than
> you will have two slightly different values because of the slightly
different
> clock of the two processors. In your case it seems that the second
processor
> has a decreased clock. I'm sure you have enabled cool'n'quiet.
>
> Rgds

Actually I had never changed the CPUs freq/governor states, and they
were set to 800MHz/userspace.
After I changed their state using gnome applet, and from then on,  the
two CPUs' bogomips values  where equal.
For governor set to performance here they are:
#cat /proc/cpuinfo |grep -E 'proc|MHz|bogomips'
processor   : 0
cpu MHz : 1800.000
bogomips: 8125.24
processor   : 1
cpu MHz : 1800.000
bogomips: 8125.24

However, if I boot into M$ windblows (dual boot system), then boot into
linux without touching the CPUs' freq/gov state the MHz/bogomips values
are changed back to:
processor   : 0
cpu MHz : 800.000
bogomips: 3611.94
processor   : 1
cpu MHz : 800.000
bogomips: 1603.39

The 800 MHz is because I have compiled with
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_DEFAULT_GOV_USERSPACE=y
CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_USERSPACE=y


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[gentoo-amd64] emerge madwifi-ng

2007-07-13 Thread Tonko Mulder

Hello all,

when I want to emerge madwifi-ng it fails for some reason.
Attached is the build.log, one error I do not understand is: "!!!
Unable to make  KERNELPATH=/lib/modules/2.6.22-gentoo-r1/build all."

Could someone help me with this?

Thanks in advance,
Tonko Mulder


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