Re: [gentoo-amd64][OT] ...you have been bouncing

2008-06-09 Thread Chris Brennan
Ya ... since when is top-posting a nono requirement of this list?

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Peter Davoust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kenneth Prugh wrote:

 On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:09:08 -0400
 Peter Davoust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Ack! Sorry, forgot.

 Daniel Iliev wrote:


 On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:47:11 -0400
 Peter Davoust [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.

 Please, avoid sending me HTML e-mails.

 :)





 Please stop top-posting.



 Wow. I didn't know I could so easily offend so many people with one e-mail.
 I understand the issue with HTML e-mails, but what's wrong with
 top-posting?

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] k3b and FLAC images

2008-04-29 Thread Chris Brennan

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But was FLAC used when you built k3b? try this to check


emerge -vpuDN k3b

this should double check all your USE flags and redisplay all of k3b's
deps.

Mark Haney wrote:
| I've received some FLAC files of a concert of a friend of mine.  The CUE
| files were included, but for some reason k3b doesn't like it.  It
| complains (not a usable image). I've got the FLAC option included in
| make.conf, so it should work, right?
|
| Am I missing something?
|
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] sudden sound loss

2008-04-10 Thread Chris Brennan

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I would check that the device is unmusted w/ alsamixer, if alsasound
didn't properly terminate on the reboot, then alsa will default to a
muted state.

Raffaele BELARDI wrote:
| On Thu, 2008-04-10 at 08:22 -0400, Mark Haney wrote:
|
| I'll do that, but it doesn't make a lot of sense for it to work
| flawlessly for over a month with the same configuration then suddenly
| stop working.  At least not without logging some sort of hardware
| problem, which I'm not seeing.
|
|
| You are right, I had missed that the problem had shown up _before_
| kernel upgrade. Sorry, no other ideas.
|
| raf
|
|
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Enabling debug info in Wine?

2008-03-07 Thread Chris Brennan

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I'm not a developer, but I use the following

Leviathan ~ # grep FEAT /etc/make.conf
FEATURES=parallel-fetch distclean ccache confcache
Leviathan ~ #

For the average user, these are a safe bet, the last two are apps you'll
need to emerge and set up as well. pretty simple and straight forward.

Mark Knecht wrote:
| On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 8:09 AM, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Hi all,
|What would be a sufficient set of actions for me to take to get
|  backtrace info from Wine that would be useful to Wine devlopers? Their
|  Bugzilla folks are are saying, correctly I think, that everything
|  necessary is stripped out and that the info I'm providing doesn't
|  help. I don't see anything specific in the Wine flags.
|
|Is this some sort of major effort required where I have to go back
|  and recompile many things on my system or is there a way to compile
|  just Wine to give them what they need?
|
|I found this page to read:
|
|  http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/backtraces.xml
|
|I do not understand the nostrip/splitdebug topic. I do not find
|  either word in man emerge or man portage. Is this a gcc thing?
|
|My current gcc flags look like this:
|
|  CFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe
|  CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
|  CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
|  MAKEOPTS=-j2
|
|Any comments about whether those are good or not for a
|  non-developer, desktop user type like me would be appreciated. I don't
|  mind changing cflags to get these folks what they want.
|
|  Thanks,
|  Mark
|
|
| OK, so this seems to be part of using the FEATURES= ...  line in
make.conf.
|
| I do not have a FEATURES line at all so I'm hesitant to just start
| throwing things in. glug...help...
|
| I've heard of things like sandbox and ccache but I've never touched
| them. Would they be good things to use all the time or are they more
| for developers?
|
| Anyway, if someone can help clear this up I would appreciate it.
|
| Thanks,
| Mark
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Wine on amd64 - is it'32-bit'?

2008-03-01 Thread Chris Brennan
Christoph Mende wrote:
 On Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:10:29 -0800
 Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ % file =wine
 /usr/bin/wine: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1
 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, dynamically linked (uses shared libs),
 stripped


This doesn't seem to work ... for my at least ...
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] revdep-rebuild keep on detecting a broken link referred to libqt-mt.so.3

2008-02-29 Thread Chris Brennan
Beso wrote:
 2008/2/28, manuel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi All,
 I've ran revdep-rebuild a couple of times this week  and each  time i
 run it it finds  a  broken link  referred  to  libqt-mt.so.3 and each
 time It emerges
 app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-soundlibs-2007112 to correct the problem!
 but the broken link is still there!?? I can't fix it! any ideas?

 thanks in advance for your help

 Manuel
 
 
 log in a terminal as user, then  do a rm /root/.revdep* and then try again
 revdep-rebuild. after you do a revdep-rebuild be always sure that no .revdep
 files are present anymore in the /root/ directory. if there are some present
 then revdep will continue to cicle through them.
 another option would be to run revdep-rebuild -i (which stands for --ignore)
 which would ignore the .revdep files in the /root/ directory. i personally
 prefer the first option since i know that there aren't any cached revdeped
 files. if it continues to cycle on the same rebuild after one rebuild then
 it might be the case of a bug like the one of the gcj use flag in gcc-4.1.
 try searching on the forum if that might be the case.
 
 
 

I'm actually having the same issue as this w/ libqt-mt.so ... my problem
this, is gimp won't build because of it. below is the output.


/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[2]: *** [test-poppler-qt] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-bindings-0.6.1/work/poppler-0.6.1/qt'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-bindings-0.6.1/work/poppler-0.6.1'
make: *** [all] Error 2
 *
 * ERROR: app-text/poppler-bindings-0.6.1 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 * environment, line 2670:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   emake || die compilation failed
 *  The die message:
 *   compilation failed
 *
 * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack
if relevant.
 * A complete build log is located at
'/var/log/portage/app-text:poppler-bindings-0.6.1:20080229-164108.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-bindings-0.6.1/temp/environment'.
 *

 * Messages for package app-text/poppler-bindings-0.6.1:

 * disabling confcache, binary cannot be found
 *
 * ERROR: app-text/poppler-bindings-0.6.1 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 * environment, line 2670:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   emake || die compilation failed
 *  The die message:
 *   compilation failed
 *
 * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack
if relevant.
 * A complete build log is located at
'/var/log/portage/app-text:poppler-bindings-0.6.1:20080229-164108.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-bindings-0.6.1/temp/environment'.
 *
 * unmounting tmpfs ...
 [ ok ]
Leviathan htdocs #
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: revdep-rebuild keep on detecting a broken link referred to libqt-mt.so.3

2008-02-29 Thread Chris Brennan
Duncan wrote:
 Chris Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 excerpted below, on  Fri, 29 Feb 2008 11:46:21 -0500:
 
 I'm actually having the same issue as this w/ libqt-mt.so ... my problem
 this, is gimp won't build because of it. below is the output.


 /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so: could not read symbols: File in wrong format
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 make[2]: *** [test-poppler-qt] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-bindings-0.6.1/work/poppler-0.6.1/qt'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/app-text/poppler-bindings-0.6.1/work/poppler-0.6.1'
 make: *** [all] Error 2
 
 Hmm... so what about /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so ?  Here, it's a symlink 
 pointing to libqt-mt.so.3, a symlink pointing to libqt-mt.so.3.3, again a 
 symlink, pointing at libqt-mt.so.3.3.8, which is the actual shared-object 
 library file.

the point was the error msg from the emerge output about wrong format.

 If you have a valid set of symlinks, pick any one of them and see what 
 readelf -h says about it.  If the class entry (right under magic) is 
 anything other than ELF64, then you have a corrupted library and probably 
 need to remerge qt (be sure you remerge qt3 not 4, if you have it merged 
 as well).  If it's ELF64 and appears to be readable, then you have other 
 deeper problems.

I have re-emerged qt-3 numerous times, here is the output of readelf

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ readelf -h /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8
ELF Header:
  Magic:   7f 45 4c 46 01 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
  Class: ELF32
  Data:  2's complement, little endian
  Version:   1 (current)
  OS/ABI:UNIX - System V
  ABI Version:   0
  Type:  DYN (Shared object file)
  Machine:   Intel 80386
  Version:   0x1
  Entry point address:   0x1b2000
  Start of program headers:  52 (bytes into file)
  Start of section headers:  7262824 (bytes into file)
  Flags: 0x0
  Size of this header:   52 (bytes)
  Size of program headers:   32 (bytes)
  Number of program headers: 6
  Size of section headers:   40 (bytes)
  Number of section headers: 25
  Section header string table index: 24
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $



 

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: revdep-rebuild keep on detecting a broken link referred to libqt-mt.so.3

2008-02-29 Thread Chris Brennan
Duncan wrote:
 Chris Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on  Fri, 29 Feb 2008
 12:24:15 -0500:
 
 [Duncan wrote...]
 Hmm... so what about /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so ?  Here, it's a symlink
 pointing to libqt-mt.so.3, a symlink pointing to libqt-mt.so.3.3, again
 a symlink, pointing at libqt-mt.so.3.3.8, which is the actual
 shared-object library file.
 the point was the error msg from the emerge output about wrong format.
 
 The problem is, wrong format can mean symlink pointed at nothing, in some
 contexts.  If the target file doesn't exist...
 
 It can also mean it's for some reason it's pointed at a text file, or a
 file of the wrong bitness, or a file-system corrupt file, or..., which
 is what the next part is about.
 
 If you have a valid set of symlinks, pick any one of them and see what
 readelf -h says about it.  If the class entry (right under magic) is
 anything other than ELF64, then you have a corrupted library and
 probably need to remerge qt (be sure you remerge qt3 not 4, if you have
 it merged as well).  If it's ELF64 and appears to be readable, then you
 have other deeper problems.
 I have re-emerged qt-3 numerous times, here is the output of readelf

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ readelf -h /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8 ELF
 Header:
   Magic:   7f 45 4c 46 01 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
   Class:   ELF32
 
 That's the problem right there.  It's trying to link a 32-bit library
 into (presumably, since this is the amd64 list/group) a 64-bit
 ELF binary.  That's just not going to work, period, and remerging
 the 64-bit qt isn't going to correct the problem either (unless it
 overwrites the file, which it obviously doesn't if you've tried it
 already).
 
 That's progress.  Now, we need to find out if any packages you have
 merged, probably emul-linux-x86-* packages since that's where the
 32-bit stuff comes from unless you are running a full 32-bit chroot,
 and I've no indication of that.
 
 equery belongs libqt-mt.so.3.3.8
 
 I didn't use the path, since lib and lib64 are normally symlinked
 one way or the other on amd64, and if you searched by path, you'd
 need to search for both paths.
 
 Here, I get one (just one) entry, but I'm running no-multilib since
 I don't do binary-only and that's about the only reason one might
 have for 32-bit.
 
 [ Searching for file(s) libqt-mt.so.3.3.8 in *... ]
 x11-libs/qt-3.3.8-r4 (/usr/qt/3/lib64/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8)
 
 So it's the 64-bit qt package that owns it, here.  What about
 there?  Do two packages own it and do both point at the same
 file, possibly thru different directory/symlink paths?  None?
 
 If none it's an orphaned file and you /should/ be able to remove
 it safely, but you may want to move it somewhere out of the
 library search path but keep it around for awhile just in case.
 
 If only the 64-bit package points to it, same thing, but
 remerge the 64-bit qt afterward, and I frankly don't know why
 remerging it with that file in place didn't fix the problem.
 
 If one and it's 32-bit, then you have a problem with the
 lib-linking search path.  First, check for updates to the 32-bit
 emul-linux-* package and try that if there are any.  Else there
 are ways to fix it but you'll need to get someone with more
 knowledge in the field to help, as I never had the problem on
 multilib myself and now am 64-bit only so haven't bothered with
 the details.
 
 If two, and both paths point to the same thing, it's something
 portage's config-protect FEATURE should have caught if you
 have it enabled.  Again, check for updates on the 32-bit
 package and try them first, then seek further help, but in
 this case it's a bug that should either be in Gentoo's bugzilla
 already or that you can file if not.
 

app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-qtlibs seems to have been the culprit, I
don't need it for anything that I can tell. It's been removed for now
and I have moved on to building the app I intended to build when all
this started (which was The Gimp). As of the writing of this, it is
building.
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Networking bridging

2008-02-21 Thread Chris Brennan
Duncan,
a routing issue does help, gives me a new place to look.


As for the device name, technically these are the real devices as
follows 

eth0 - real ethernet device
br0 - bridging device
tap0/tap1 TUN/TAP Devices

Duncan wrote:
 Chris Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on  Wed, 20 Feb 2008
 21:40:43 -0500:

   
 I am trying to set up a Bridge for Qemu to use. I followed the guide at
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/
 
 HOWTO:_Qemu#Using_TUN.2FTAP_interface_as_a_normal_user
   
 but when ever the bridge starts, I loose connectivity outside of my box
 :/ ... am I missing something 
 

 I've not done bridging or the like here so don't know the details, nor do 
 I claim to be a routing expert, but in the hope this will at least get 
 you pointed in the right direction...


 That sounds like a routing issue.   When the bridge starts, it gets 
 precedence routing and the regular eth0 interface drops back a notch.  To 
 correct it you'd need to adjust your routing table, presumably by 
 specifically setting the bridge interface routing to a lower precedence.  
 (Beyond that, I don't know, as I've simply kept note of enough info about 
 it to know where to start reading if I ever face routing issues or need 
 to setup additional interfaces.  Hopefully, it's enough to start you in 
 the right direction as well...)

 Additionally, are you sure the bridge should be setup as eth0 when you 
 already have an eth0?  As I said, I don't know a lot about it, but I'd 
 have expected it to be, say, eth1, not eth0, unless you indeed /did/ want 
 it to actually replace eth0 when it was enabled.

 Hope it helps... and that someone who better knows the subject matter 
 comes along with more help. =8^S

   
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: BT8x8

2008-02-21 Thread Chris Brennan
OK ... I think I've made a little more progress, but I think I am still
missing something

I switched to the Open Source ATI Drivers. But there are issues with this :/
1) I can't play Doom3, so if I want to, I have to switch drivers are
restart X  but that's not the bigger issue.

tvtime loads now. I figured out what modules to load to create the
/dev/video0 device


tuner  64360  0
cx8800 40124  0
cx88xx 72036  1 cx8800
ir_common  39620  1 cx88xx
tveeprom   20240  1 cx88xx
compat_ioctl32 11072  1 cx8800
btcx_risc   7432  2 cx8800,cx88xx
vivi   21716  1
video_buf  28932  3 cx8800,cx88xx,vivi
videodev   30592  4 cx8800,cx88xx,vivi
v4l1_compat14340  1 videodev
v4l2_common22336  6
tuner,cx8800,cx88xx,compat_ioctl32,vivi,videodev


modprobe vivi creates the device
modprobe cx8800 (the bttv replacement from what I can tell)
then modprove tuner

ow the problem is tvtime (and xawtv) gets stuck on screen, can't kill
the process, even after restarting X, the process is still in memory :/

So I am still missing something 

On the upside, I have YU12/YUY2 Overlays

From xine-check
[ good ] found xvinfo: X-Video Extension version 2.2
[ good ] your Xv extension supports YV12 overlays (improves MPEG
performance)
[ good ] your Xv extension supports YUY2 overlays
[ good ] Xv ports:  RGBA RGBT RGB2 YUY2 UYVY YV12 I420

so ... it's progress ... but I don't think a step forward :/ maybe a
step sideways .

Anywho .. I am going to reboot one last time to get rid of these stuck
apps and reload the fglrx driver so I can play doom3.

Any more idea's would be greatly appreciated.

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Duncan wrote:
 Chris Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 excerpted below, on  Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:55:56 -0500:

   
 And I get a GREEN overlay. But he minute I change something else, it
 goes back to a black display and stays there.
 

 Well, green overlay, that IS certainly progress.  You apparently have the 
 overlay part working now.  =8^)

 Beyond that, others with more topical experience are likely to be of more 
 help.

   
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Networking bridging

2008-02-21 Thread Chris Brennan
Issac
I found that adding the few lines I was missing from your net to
mine and then enabling the br0 device first and I was able to ping the
outside world. One problem though, this line

depend_br0() { need net.eth0 }

refused to work ... it hung my net scripts ... the RC_need_br0=(
eth0 ) seems to work though.

I will bootup my gentoo livecd shortly and see if I can ping the
outside world from with in my VM 



Isaac Conway wrote:
 Chris Brennan wrote:
 I am trying to set up a Bridge for Qemu to use. I followed the guide
 at

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO:_Qemu#Using_TUN.2FTAP_interface_as_a_normal_user

 but when ever the bridge starts, I loose connectivity outside of my
 box :/ ... am I missing something 


 I've includes the output of my /etc/conf.d/net file 


 # This blank configuration will automatically use DHCP for any net.*
 # scripts in /etc/init.d.  To create a more complete configuration,
 # please review /etc/conf.d/net.example and save your configuration
 # in /etc/conf.d/net (this file :]!).
 dns_domain=( unworldly.org )
 nis_domain=( unworldly.org )
 dns_domain_eth0=( unworldly.org )
 dns_search_eth0=( unworldly.org xaerolimit.net )
 dns_servers_eth0=( 192.168.1.1 4.2.2.1 4.2.2.2 )

 ##
 # LAN
 ##
 config_eth0=( 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.1.255 )
 routes_eth0=( default via 192.168.1.1 )

 ##
 # Bridge
 ##
 bridge_br0=eth0
 config_br0=( 192.168.1.20 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.1.255 )
 #dhcpcd_br0=-t 10
 RC_NEED_br0=net.eth0
 brctl_br0=( setfd 0 sethello 0 stp off )
 config_tap0=( 10.0.2.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 )

  
 I think what you are after is the following:

 bridge_br0=eth0
 config_br0=( 192.168.1.20 netmask 255.255.255.0 )
 routes_br0=( default via 192.168.1.1 )
 config_eth0=( null )
 depend_br0() {
 need net.eth0
 }

 You do not need an IP on the eth0 interface. This should get your
 box online with the bridge setup. (not tested, but fairly certain)
 Not totally sure what your intentions are for the tun interface. I
 would assume you would want to add it to the bridge group, so that
 it is on the same bridge as the outside world.  Or perhaps you want
 to route to the 192 IP to get to the 10. stuff  Also, make sure
 you setup /etc/init.d/net.br0 and /etc/init.d/net.tap0 and set them
 to start with the box.  Hope this helps.


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[gentoo-amd64] Networking bridging

2008-02-20 Thread Chris Brennan
I am trying to set up a Bridge for Qemu to use. I followed the guide
at
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO:_Qemu#Using_TUN.2FTAP_interface_as_a_normal_user
but when ever the bridge starts, I loose connectivity outside of my
box :/ ... am I missing something 


I've includes the output of my /etc/conf.d/net file 


# This blank configuration will automatically use DHCP for any net.*
# scripts in /etc/init.d.  To create a more complete configuration,
# please review /etc/conf.d/net.example and save your configuration
# in /etc/conf.d/net (this file :]!).
dns_domain=( unworldly.org )
nis_domain=( unworldly.org )
dns_domain_eth0=( unworldly.org )
dns_search_eth0=( unworldly.org xaerolimit.net )
dns_servers_eth0=( 192.168.1.1 4.2.2.1 4.2.2.2 )

##
# LAN
##
config_eth0=( 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.1.255 )
routes_eth0=( default via 192.168.1.1 )

##
# Bridge
##
bridge_br0=eth0
config_br0=( 192.168.1.20 netmask 255.255.255.0 brd 192.168.1.255 )
#dhcpcd_br0=-t 10
RC_NEED_br0=net.eth0
brctl_br0=( setfd 0 sethello 0 stp off )
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: BT8x8

2008-02-16 Thread Chris Brennan
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Wow ... quit a bit to absorb ... Forgive me if these next set of
questions sound a bit dumb ...

Will kaffeine and/or kmplayer know to use my /dev/video0 device? I
tried getting (g)mplayer to do this and for the life of me, I could
not figure out how to make it use that device :/

I've got a fair amount of experience in setting up X to Play video's
(of various sizes, lengths and formats) and for getting 3D games such
as Doom3/UT/Q3A (Btw, all these games work flawlessly for me, I get
good hardware audio support and all the games are usually played on
the highest settings. The exception being Doom3, I play one step down,
too many objects moving at once on screen tends to bog down my
AMD64/X2 4200+ (2.2GHz/ea). But my question is this, XVIDEO/XV/OpenGL
are all prerequisites of these games. If they are working for the
games, then shouldn't the overlay's be working for  my TV Card as well?




Duncan wrote:
 Chris Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on  Fri, 15 Feb
 2008 23:07:28 -0500:

 xawtv gives me a window and when I right click, I can choose what
 format and region and all that jazz, but I get no picture.

 tvtime produces the following error:

 [reformatted]
 *** tvtime requires hardware YUY2 overlay support from your video
 card  driver. [...]  If unsure, please check with your
 distribution to see if your *** X driver supports hardware
 overlay surfaces.

 I don't touch proprietaryware so talk to someone else about that or
 try the newest free drivers, which are supposed to support the R3xx
 series chips including 3D.

 However, I can say this based on video behavior in general (and it
 worked the same on MSWormOS 98, with Nvidia hardware when I first
 switched to Linux, and now with the Radeon R200 series stuff I'm
 running now as it was the newest with freedomare 3D support for
 awhile, so this would appear to be platform independent)...

 When the overlay is working properly, particularly when there's
 nothing playing, it should be quite apparent it's not a standard
 window.  The overlay will normally be blue-screen (tho I've rarely
 seen pink or orange or red, but always solid color), and doesn't
 obey normal window rules (no transparency, often no resizing, etc),
 as it's an overlay.

 Overlays are definitely a feature of the hardware.  Most video
 cards will have it, but some won't have the functionality exposed
 in the drivers. If you don't have it, anything that must use it, no
 other choice, will be broken on your system.

 Fortunately, while it tends to be the lowest CPU most efficient
 method of playing video, most software video players and the like
 have other choices as well.  The overlay option is Xv, but most
 software can use one or more of standard surface mapping, OpenGL,
 xshm (generally more efficient than standard surface mapping, less
 than Xv), or SDL video rendering.  (Of course SDL can in turn use
 OpenGL and a couple others.)

 Unfortunately, a lot (perhaps most?) TV capture hardware must use
 the overlay, no other choice for it.  That's reasonable as it's
 definitely most efficient and least complicated for the hardware to
 access, but if your video hardware or drivers don't support it,
 your SOL.

 So what I'd suggest is confirming that your video hardware and
 drivers support it, then trying with something like kaffeine or
 kmplayer (the video players I use).  If you can get the overlay
 working there, then you at least know it's working before you try
 to get the TV capture hardware going.

 As for your video drivers, as I said, the R3xx chip family is
 supposed to be supported with the newest open drivers, but I don't
 believe the 3D at least is fully stable, yet.  Hmm... just checked,
 they've updated, it now says quite stable, but that's still not
 just stable.  This is with pre-release xf86-video-ati (Gentoo
 package name) 6.7.19x (upstream version) with Mesa 7.0.x.

 Gentoo's packages, mesa-7.0.2 is ~arch (and I have it merged here),
 xf86- video-ati-6.7.197 is ~arch but hard-masked:

 # Joshua Baergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] (27 Mar 2007) # Release
 candidate ATI driver

 So you can try unmasking it and see how it goes if you want.  As I
 said, upstream calls it quite stable now, so it should work, tho
 there'll be further changes as it continues to develop and fully
 stabilize.

 Some Radeon links from the x.org and dri.freedesktop.org wikis.
 The first links the second but the link tends to get lost on the
 page, so I put it here, too.  The second is a portal page, with a
 bunch of links to other resources, some of which look quite
 encouraging.

 http://www.x.org/wiki/radeon?highlight=%28radeon%29
 http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/R300_Portal

 I'm /guessing/ that with the free drivers, you'll have overlay
 support without much problem.  If not, at least with them you'll be
 able to get community support, something that's not so easy to get
 (or give) when the driver's a not so well

Re: [gentoo-amd64] RE: BT8x8

2008-02-16 Thread Chris Brennan
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xawtv:
I know where to set grabdisplay, but I don't see an option for dga.

Module:
I will have to recompile my kernel for that as modules. When I had
it as modules, it wasn't creating /dev/video0

xorg.corf:
I'll fix v4l asap.

reiserfs:
how/where do I turn this option off?

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Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Samstag, 16. Februar 2008, Chris Brennan wrote:


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 oh and:
 ReiserFS: hdh1: warning: CONFIG_REISERFS_CHECK is set ON
 ReiserFS: hdh1: warning: - it is slow mode for debugging.

 why don't you turn debugging of? it is really, really slow.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: BT8x8

2008-02-16 Thread Chris Brennan
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Duncan thanks for the heads up on kmplayer and kaffine.

I'm leaning towards the fact that I've got the device built into my
kernel and I can't specify exactly what kind of card it is. So either
later tonight or tomorrow sometime I will rebuild my kernel with the
driver as modules as see what happens.

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Duncan wrote:
 Chris Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] posted
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on  Sat, 16 Feb
 2008 14:55:56 -0500:

 And I get a GREEN overlay. But he minute I change something else,
 it goes back to a black display and stays there.

 Well, green overlay, that IS certainly progress.  You apparently
 have the overlay part working now.  =8^)

 Beyond that, others with more topical experience are likely to be
 of more help.

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[gentoo-amd64] RE: BT8x8

2008-02-15 Thread Chris Brennan
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'm having a somewhat similar issue with the BT878 card I have in my
gentoo box.

Here are pastebin results of varius infomation, hope I give all the
necessary info.

dmesg - http://rafb.net/p/MVIiSg62.html
xorg.conf - http://rafb.net/p/dXz4Ry49.html
Xorg.0.log - http://rafb.net/p/LbPBZT56.html

xawtv gives me a window and when I right click, I can choose what
format and region and all that jazz, but I get no picture.

tvtime produces the following error:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ tvtime
Running tvtime 1.0.2.
Reading configuration from /etc/tvtime/tvtime.xml
Reading configuration from /home/xaero/.tvtime/tvtime.xml
xvoutput: No XVIDEO port found which supports YUY2 images.

*** tvtime requires hardware YUY2 overlay support from your video card
*** driver.  If you are using an older NVIDIA card (TNT2), then
*** this capability is only available with their binary drivers.
*** For some ATI cards, this feature may be found in the experimental
*** GATOS drivers: http://gatos.souceforge.net/
*** If unsure, please check with your distribution to see if your
*** X driver supports hardware overlay surfaces.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $

tvtime-scanner now that made my heart jump ... cause it scanned and
stored all my basic cable channels. But I still can't get a video
signal. So I am obviously missing something.

So hopefully someone can help me

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