[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Linux preinstalled

2005-10-14 Thread Duncan
Stefan Schweizer posted
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
below,  on Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:33:57 +0200:

> I want to preinstall Gentoo Linux on some devices for customers. Do
> you have any tips for preinstallation, any scripts? What is the
> correct prcedure of doing so?
> Anyone knows of something like a "sysprep" script for linux that will
> ask the costumer for user  and passwort setup when he first switches
> on the PC?
> 
> On the technical side what I am currently doing is taking a normal
> setup, cleaning up distfiles, /usr/src, /tmp, /home, creating a new
> usser without any files of my own ;)
> cleaning out all my passwords of /etc.
> partimageing the partition, and dd'ing grub and sfdisking the partition table.
> Then playing back the images on the HDs I want to put into the devices later.

This is what the catalyst application does -- allow one to make their own
customized LiveCD installers*, just like Gentoo does with each periodic
snapshot release. The ebuild is in portage, and there's a catalyst
specific mailing list, should you have any questions.

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* Presumably, they don't have to be CDs or CD images, but I've never used
it personally and haven't chanced to see that specifically stated in
threads such as this that I've come across, so can't say for sure.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Linux preinstalled

2005-10-14 Thread notopic . hppa
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:33:57 +0200
Stefan Schweizer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I want to preinstall Gentoo Linux on some devices for customers. Do
> you have any tips for preinstallation, any scripts? What is the
> correct prcedure of doing so?
> Anyone knows of something like a "sysprep" script for linux that will
> ask the costumer for user  and passwort setup when he first switches
> on the PC?

what kind of hardware and his goal ?
what kind of users ?
here are the most important questions. For me, it will be a must to create
a "stage4" (stage3+all apps need). Do a normal install with all the currents
apps used or will be used by the customer and tar.bz2 it ;)

> 
> On the technical side what I am currently doing is taking a normal
> setup, cleaning up distfiles, /usr/src, /tmp, /home, creating a new
> usser without any files of my own ;)
> cleaning out all my passwords of /etc.
> partimageing the partition, and dd'ing grub and sfdisking the partition table.
> Then playing back the images on the HDs I want to put into the devices later.
> 
> Regards,
> Stefan
> 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Linux preinstalled

2005-10-14 Thread Alexander Simonov

What about mass instalation Gentoo?
Now it's how i know impossible, it's get more time.
Any one know technology for mass instalation Gentoo?
W/ NFS,HTTP or FTP instalation.
W/ X server, KDE or Gnome ?
W/ Office packages?
How i know RH and SuSE have this.
Thank you for ansver.


On Fri, 14.10.2005 10:12, Duncan wrote:
> Stefan Schweizer posted
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
> below,  on Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:33:57 +0200:
>
>> I want to preinstall Gentoo Linux on some devices for customers. Do
>> you have any tips for preinstallation, any scripts? What is the
>> correct prcedure of doing so?
>> Anyone knows of something like a "sysprep" script for linux that will
>> ask the costumer for user  and passwort setup when he first switches
>> on the PC?
>>

> This is what the catalyst application does -- allow one to make their own
> customized LiveCD installers*, just like Gentoo does with each periodic
> snapshot release. The ebuild is in portage, and there's a catalyst
> specific mailing list, should you have any questions.
>
> ---
>
> * Presumably, they don't have to be CDs or CD images, but I've never used
> it personally and haven't chanced to see that specifically stated in
> threads such as this that I've come across, so can't say for sure.
>

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling compatible multi tools

2005-10-14 Thread Simon Stelling
What would we gain with such a change? You have two tools installed that are 
nearly equal, so why would one want to have two of them?


*me scratching head*

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling compatible multi tools

2005-10-14 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Friday 14 October 2005 10:17, Simon Stelling wrote:
> What would we gain with such a change? You have two tools installed that
> are nearly equal, so why would one want to have two of them?
Testing, for once.
How many people have both vim and nano installed?
Or xine and mplayer?

I don't see much difference from this to having two tar

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling compatible multi tools

2005-10-14 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Friday 14 October 2005 00:33, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> I already tried preparing a list, but right now, they are probably limited
> to tar and mpg123/mpg321 ... sort of.

Add sys-apps/star to your list.

> * don't install the symlink in src_install
> * in pkg_postinst, look at ${ROOT}/bin/tar.. if it does exists, and it
> points on something existing, don't touch it, otherwise, make it a link to
> the current tar
> * in pkg_postrm, if ${ROOT}/bin/tar points to something non existant,
> remove it

The only problem I see with this are concurrent emerge processes (not 
supported now, but hopefully in a future Portage version). Apart from that it 
is a bit ugly to have this code in every affected ebuild, so maybe using a 
CHECK_SYMLINK="${ROOT}/bin/tar" variable and having the rest of the code in 
an eclass would be a good idea.


Carsten


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Handling compatible multi tools

2005-10-14 Thread Simon Stelling

Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:

How many people have both vim and nano installed?
Or xine and mplayer?


well, i wouldn't say nano is doing the same as vi. There's a pretty big 
difference. Also, those people who have both installed probably don't use both, 
they just installed vi and didn't care to remove nano. And about xine/mplayer, 
they're pretty different as well. I'm surely not stopping you from implementing 
your idea, I just lack to see a real benefit.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Linux preinstalled

2005-10-14 Thread Preston Cody
The Gentoo Installer will be able to do mass installations very soon
using a secure XMLRPC server and nice web interface and all that
jazz.  
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/releng/installer/
you can grab experimental livecds with the installer on them from the mirrors.
-CodemanOn 10/14/05, Alexander Simonov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What about mass instalation Gentoo?Now it's how i know impossible, it's get more time.Any one know technology for mass instalation Gentoo?W/ NFS,HTTP or FTP instalation.W/ X server, KDE or Gnome ?W/ Office packages?
How i know RH and SuSE have this.Thank you for ansver.On Fri, 14.10.2005 10:12, Duncan wrote:> Stefan Schweizer posted> <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted> below,  on Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:33:57 +0200:>>> I want to preinstall Gentoo Linux on some devices for customers. Do
>> you have any tips for preinstallation, any scripts? What is the>> correct prcedure of doing so?>> Anyone knows of something like a "sysprep" script for linux that will>> ask the costumer for user  and passwort setup when he first switches
>> on the PC?>>> This is what the catalyst application does -- allow one to make their own> customized LiveCD installers*, just like Gentoo does with each periodic> snapshot release. The ebuild is in portage, and there's a catalyst
> specific mailing list, should you have any questions.>> --->> * Presumably, they don't have to be CDs or CD images, but I've never used> it personally and haven't chanced to see that specifically stated in
> threads such as this that I've come across, so can't say for sure.>--  WBR, Alexander Simonov  Ukrainian Gentoo Community Coordinator--gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
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[gentoo-dev] Request that as many developers as possible test with FEATURES="collision-protect"

2005-10-14 Thread Petteri Räty
There have been quite a few collision-protect bugs
http://tinyurl.com/9pw4o so I think it would be great if as many
developers as possible added collision-protect to their FEATURES. That
way we can react to errors caused by collision-protect in FEATURES
before committing. Is there already a page about recommended make.conf
settings somewhere where this could be added or if such a page does not
exists do we think that one should be created?

Regards,
Petteri Räty (Betelgeuse)



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