[gentoo-dev] Last rites for media-libs/tunepimp
I'm sending the last rites before the p.mask this time because I'm currently occupied in the whole KDE commit so I'd rather not to mix stuff up. Later today media-libs/tunepimp is going to be masked, the musicbrainz useflag dropped, and removed in 30 days. The reason is a security issue (bug #140184) together with the fact that 0.3 and 0.4 are now obsoleted by 0.5, but we cannot add 0.5 yet as only picard (that is not in portage) supports it at this time. Please note that, whenever a 0.5.x version, non-vulnerable, would be needed/usable by software in portage, even during the 30 days masking period, it could reappear normally. *But* I would really like to wait till upstream decides on a format and an API because it was really too much in flux in the last months. -- Diego "Flameeyes" Pettenò - http://farragut.flameeyes.is-a-geek.org/ Gentoo/Alt lead, Gentoo/FreeBSD, Video, AMD64, Sound, PAM, KDE pgp98xPKOqbHe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] seamonkey -> nss vs nspr
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 17:39 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > Hi folks, > > while emerging seamonkey I've seen something strange on nspr > and nss: these packages are both imported by seamonkey, but > it seems that nss contains nspr. Do we have some duplicates here ? > Can you elaborate (maybe with a log or something by what you mean exactly) ? -- Martin Schlemmer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] seamonkey -> nss vs nspr
* Martin Schlemmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 17:39 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > while emerging seamonkey I've seen something strange on nspr > > and nss: these packages are both imported by seamonkey, but > > it seems that nss contains nspr. Do we have some duplicates here ? > > > > Can you elaborate (maybe with a log or something by what you mean > exactly) ? build or unpack both nspr and nss and then look whats laying around there. the nss sourcetree contains the nsprpub tree. cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags
* Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > On Thursday 06 July 2006 13:00, Stuart Herbert wrote: > > The one advantage of using USE flags for this is that the support can > > be controlled very easily on a per-package basis. CFLAGS is much more > > of a system-wide setting. > There is always the bashrc to set CFLAGS on a per-package basis. hmm, quite inconsitent. Would be better if we had something similar to package.use, but for things like CFLAGS. (btw: evrything that can be controlled by environment should be also available through such per-package tables in /etc/portage/) > > Are there examples where we'd want to have these CPU feature flags > > enabled for one package, but disabled for another (for performance or > > stability reasons)? > I think the main issue would be with hardened, where mmx is already a problem > on some packages, but I think this can be solved. IMHO there was some "hardened" useflag. Is it the place where such things should go ? > For any package where enabling mmx create stability problem, it's likely the > support should be removed altogether anyway, as the flag is enabled for the > majority of users already (the same goes for the other flags). hmm, for most users this should be okay. But what's w/ people who want to play around w/ this ? BTW: is there a way for masking an useflag of some package ? Lets say, we've got some package which has special mmx support. The package itself (w/o mmx) has been proven as stable, but the mmx stuff hasn't. Is it then possible to mask only the MMX stuff ? cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags
* Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb:
> Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:
> > echo | $(tc-getCC) ${CFLAGS} -dM -E - 2>/dev/null
>
> > Thoughts? Comments?
>
> How will you handle non-gcc compilers?
Maybe it goes out of gentoo's scope, but I'm developing an
universal toolchain wrapper which also supplies an gcc-style
libtool frontend:
http://wiki.metux.de/public/Universal_Toolchain
Perhaps someone likes to have a look at it.
cu
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags
* Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Non gcc compilers have never been supported and probably never will be. If someone decides to work on that topic, IMHO the best approach would be providing an gcc-style frontend, so we actually get an drop-in-replacement (at least from the command line view). I've done something similar w/ my universal toolchain project, which works compiler-independent (although I currently have only an gcc backend ;-o) and also provides an drop-in-replacement for libtool w/ gcc as an additional frontend. http://wiki.metux.de/public/Universal_Toolchain cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags
* Kevin F. Quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > Where a package does run-time detection, there's no need for any > conditional compilation as they build for everything anyway, so such > packages wouldn't use mmx/sse/sse2 etc USE flags anyway. Well, there are still valid reasons: if you *know* you'll run the binary only on non-mmx systems, you'd probably get rid of it to make the binary smaller and reduce possible points of errors. I'd consider the runtime-detection just as an extra failsafe check. > There are relatively few packages affected (<1%), so I think it's worth > a try. In the end it may be that a few packages need to deal with > stuff manually like with the current USE flags, but they'd be local USE > flags at that point. ACK. Nobody forbids some packages having their own local useflags, if really necessary. cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] seamonkey -> nss vs nspr
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 12:46 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Martin Schlemmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 17:39 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > while emerging seamonkey I've seen something strange on nspr > > > and nss: these packages are both imported by seamonkey, but > > > it seems that nss contains nspr. Do we have some duplicates here ? > > > > > > > Can you elaborate (maybe with a log or something by what you mean > > exactly) ? > > build or unpack both nspr and nss and then look whats laying around > there. the nss sourcetree contains the nsprpub tree. > Yes, but we don't install it with the nss ebuild, as our build uses system nspr. I am sure you could check with upstream, but they will probably say its intended as nss needs nspr if I remember correctly. -- Martin Schlemmer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] ethereal moved to wireshark
Daniel Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ethereal, as far as anyone can tell, is no longer being developed[3] as all > the core developers have moved to Wireshark[4]. > > To make this transition as painless as possible, a package move has been > setup > so Ethereal users should automatically upgrade to Wireshark. Is there an equivalent of (or replacement for) the command line tethereal? This can give more useful information than tcpdump and can be run in real-time on servers over an SSH connection. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-dev] ethereal moved to wireshark
As you probably read yesterday in GWN[1], Ethereal is being removed due to security vulnerabilities[2] and replaced with its successor, Wireshark. Ethereal, as far as anyone can tell, is no longer being developed[3] as all the core developers have moved to Wireshark[4]. To make this transition as painless as possible, a package move has been setup so Ethereal users should automatically upgrade to Wireshark. To keep the saved configuration from Ethereal and reuse it with Wireshark do the following for each user that has a saved Ethereal configuration: cd $HOME mv .ethereal .wireshark [1] http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20060724-newsletter.xml#doc_chap1_sect2 [2] http://security.gentoo.org/glsa/glsa-200607-09.xml [3] http://www.ethereal.com/lists/ethereal-cvs/200605 [4] http://www.wireshark.org/faq.html#q1.2 -- Daniel Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Crypto/dev-embedded/Forensics/NetMon pgpXGDbgF8RVu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] ethereal moved to wireshark
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 01:16, Graham Murray wrote: > Is there an equivalent of (or replacement for) the command line > tethereal? tshark -- Daniel Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo Crypto/dev-embedded/Forensics/NetMon pgpj1Ot1BfcHs.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] ethereal moved to wireshark
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 16:16 +0100, Graham Murray wrote: > Is there an equivalent of (or replacement for) the command line > tethereal? This can give more useful information than tcpdump and can > be run in real-time on servers over an SSH connection. tshark... =] -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead x86 Architecture Team Games - Developer Gentoo Linux signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding from Gentoo UK 2006 event
On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 16:32 +0100, Daniel Drake wrote: > I was going to send this to the trustees, but I realised that they might > be changing around soon, so I'll send it here instead: > > > Dear future trustees, > > As you might be aware, we recently held a users-and-developers meeting > in London: > > http://dev.gentoo.org/~dsd/gentoo-uk-2006/ > > This was actually our 3rd annual Gentoo UK event. > > The Gentoo Foundation were the biggest source of funds which allowed for > this year's event to take place, for which we are very grateful. > > It turns out that the event attracted over twice as many people than we > initially expected (even at short notice), some people even travelled > from other parts of Europe. > > As well as some sessions run by Gentoo developers, we had two > professionals who gave very interesting and entertaining talks: > Hanni Ali of www.ainkaboot.co.uk (Gentoo-based clustering company) > Andrew Cowie of www.operationaldynamics.com (enterprise risk management, > involving Gentoo) > > All this made for a really successful event, everyone seemed to enjoy it > immensely. > > In order to cover costs, we charged a small entrance fee, but many > people who attended were very generous. This meant that we were able to > donate over half of the funding back to the foundation (£88.23). > > I just wanted to make sure that you are now fully aware that we have > sufficient capacity to organise relatively large UK events, and I hope > that this and the fact we were able to return a lot of the money will be > considered when we apply for funding for future events. :) > > Thanks! > Daniel Is there any news on a 2007 event? This time, really, I promise I'll be in the country to attend! -- Regards, Lisa Seelye GPG: 09CF5 2D6B8 2B72B 997A7 601BC B46B5 561E4 96FC5 http://www.thedoh.com/~lisa/site signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding from Gentoo UK 2006 event
Lisa Seelye wrote: Is there any news on a 2007 event? This time, really, I promise I'll be in the country to attend! No, and you won't hear anything from me. I won't be in the country. Daniel -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding from Gentoo UK 2006 event
Lisa Seelye wrote: > Is there any news on a 2007 event? This time, really, I promise I'll be > in the country to attend! No, and you won't hear anything from me. I won't be in the country. Daniel Someone needs to step up and volunteer to organise next year's conference. Dunno about other folks, but I'd be very happy to see us return to the Resource Centre once more. I thought that it worked well as a venue, and that London is the right place to hold the conference. Best regards, Stu -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding from Gentoo UK 2006 event
On Tuesday 25 July 2006 17:34, Stuart Herbert wrote: > Someone needs to step up and volunteer to organise next year's conference. Preferably someone in or near London (or place of venue) to sort it out. As I live in a very big forest it kinda rules me out ;) > Dunno about other folks, but I'd be very happy to see us return to the > Resource Centre once more. I thought that it worked well as a venue, > and that London is the right place to hold the conference. While the location was indeed good and in easy walking distance from the tube station, the room was packed - do you know if they have larger rooms? Thanks -- Roy Marples <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gentoo/Linux Developer (baselayout, networking) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding from Gentoo UK 2006 event
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 05:34:31PM +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: > Dunno about other folks, but I'd be very happy to see us return to the > Resource Centre once more. I thought that it worked well as a venue, > and that London is the right place to hold the conference. Resource Centre was fine, maybe i'll manage to stop by next year too. I think the good financial outcome is George's fault, he forced me to donate 3 pounds. Someone make sure it goes into $MY_PROJECT ;-) cheers, Wernfried -- Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne at gentoo dot org Gentoo Forums: http://forums.gentoo.org IRC: #gentoo-forums on freenode - email: forum-mods at gentoo dot org pgpDHR6DG5RDg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding from Gentoo UK 2006 event
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wernfried Haas wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 05:34:31PM +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: >> Dunno about other folks, but I'd be very happy to see us return to the >> Resource Centre once more. I thought that it worked well as a venue, >> and that London is the right place to hold the conference. > > Resource Centre was fine, maybe i'll manage to stop by next year too. > > I think the good financial outcome is George's fault, he forced me to > donate 3 pounds. Someone make sure it goes into $MY_PROJECT ;-) > > cheers, > Wernfried > % $MY_PROJECT hmm, that returned nothing *hides the cash in my pocket* guess you didn't define the project, and your loss is my gain ;) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFExk8RSENan+PfizARAseOAKCKInf8KdbU7T+xYxkWtnbh4Rd/MgCfbUYb i1KgC7tkYmMvtP4+hsPzxNg= =Vq7R -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Replacing cpu-feature USE flags
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 02:14:46PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Ned Ludd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > > > Non gcc compilers have never been supported and probably never will be. > > If someone decides to work on that topic, IMHO the best approach > would be providing an gcc-style frontend, so we actually get > an drop-in-replacement (at least from the command line view). What would it do if a gcc-specific option is used for which the real compiler does not provide any option, even with a different name? If it would ignore it, things would break horribly (just think of -funsigned-char). If it would error out, are any options other than those already specified by POSIX (`man 1p c99`) available on all systems? (If not, no gcc-style frontend is necessary, because the options are already the same for all compilers intended to be usable as a (Unix-like-)system compiler.) -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding from Gentoo UK 2006 event
On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 10:04:17AM -0700, Joshua Jackson wrote: > hmm, that returned nothing *hides the cash in my pocket* guess you > didn't define the project, and your loss is my gain ;) Ooops - well, just don't spend it all at once. cheers, Wernfried -- Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne at gentoo dot org Gentoo Forums: http://forums.gentoo.org IRC: #gentoo-forums on freenode - email: forum-mods at gentoo dot org pgpwALtPc3jto.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] ethereal moved to wireshark
Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 16:16 +0100, Graham Murray wrote: >> Is there an equivalent of (or replacement for) the command line >> tethereal? This can give more useful information than tcpdump and can >> be run in real-time on servers over an SSH connection. > > tshark... =] Thanks -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] seamonkey -> nss vs nspr
* Martin Schlemmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > build or unpack both nspr and nss and then look whats laying around > > there. the nss sourcetree contains the nsprpub tree. > > > > Yes, but we don't install it with the nss ebuild, as our build uses > system nspr. I am sure you could check with upstream, but they will > probably say its intended as nss needs nspr if I remember correctly. So the nspr subtree in nss is dead code (for gentoo) ? Then we better should remove it - just to be sure ;-) BTW: it seems both nspr and nss are not really standalone packages, but instead snippets from CVS which requires much manual interaction (which is done by the ebuild). IMHO it would be worth investing some time into making both nspr and nss standalone packages with clean pkg-config, etc. Although I dislike autotools for some reasons (ie. crosscompiling is very ugly) we could use it until something better is available (in fact I'm working on my build tool ...). Something Xorg-modular ;-) Many distros would benefit from that. cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ - -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-dev] media-video/yanc masked for removal
yanc has not been updated for 2.5 years, has two open bugs[1][2], one of which shows a crash on startup, and no one is really interested in fixing either. The package is unmaintained upstream, though a new rewrite called 'yanc42' has a pre-release that is over half a year old. nvidia-settings may be a suitable replacement for this package, though I've never used either. The ebuilds will be yanked (hah!) in 30 days. [1]http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72498 [2]http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83773 -- Joshua Baergen signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Funding from Gentoo UK 2006 event
On 25/07/06, Wernfried Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Jul 25, 2006 at 05:34:31PM +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: > Dunno about other folks, but I'd be very happy to see us return to the > Resource Centre once more. I thought that it worked well as a venue, > and that London is the right place to hold the conference. Resource Centre was fine, maybe i'll manage to stop by next year too. I think the good financial outcome is George's fault, he forced me to donate 3 pounds. Someone make sure it goes into $MY_PROJECT ;-) cheers, Wernfried -- Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne at gentoo dot org Gentoo Forums: http://forums.gentoo.org IRC: #gentoo-forums on freenode - email: forum-mods at gentoo dot org Yeah, we didn't accept that funny money from the continent either :p Stuart expressed an interest about organising it with me but if he is leaving then I can do it myself. I thought the location was ideal and if (like uberlord says) they have bigger rooms I would like to book one. Personally I would like to book it as soon as possible so people have lots of time to sort everything out. Ideally i would like to sort it within the next month because i seem to have committed myself to 3 projects and a girlfriend which tends to mean i have no time, no money and no ability to think for myself anymore. Perhaps this time I will get some people actually responding to some questions this time George -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-dev] I'm "frilled" to present to you, a new Gentoo developer
... which brings the German Conspiracy at 38. His nick is "frilled", but in real life you'll call him "Giesen, Wolf Giesen". Shaken, not stirred. And you'll call him that in the IT department of "Aschendorff Medien", publisher of the "Westfälische Nachrichten", whatever that is. You're probably all wondering what he's good at. He likes animals, so might make a good nanny for jforman's goats. And if klieber trained them well during the holidays, frilled will not need a dog to shepHerd them. Which is good, actually, 'cause he isn't all that fond of dogs anyway. Sorry beandog, no cookies for you. He's good in languages too. German and English are two of them, C is another good one. More evil languages he speaks are C++, Perl, PHP and ba(sh) not to speak of the Sum of All Fears, Java. But programming isn't really his thing. No, he's better in speaking in public if I may interprete "Public Relations" as such. Another journalist - we will all watch more security related articles in the GWN. If not, we'll drop Larry on him. Another animal he likes. Makes me wonder if the feeling is mutual. Oh, in Gentoo, he's going to work in the Security Team, so jaervosz has finally found himself another pet slave. Sorry Koon, you'll have to share Sune now. Will he show some tricks from the Ruhrgebiet, or rather from his current location - Münster? As you all might have guessed, he mentioned his first computer (TRS-80) in his introduction, but I wasn't impressed. The older their computer, the older their mind. Look paps, no hands! Anyway, he loves books and movies too - as well as a good beer. If you ever find the time, come over to Belgium and I'll show you what *real* beers are like. You get a good 'old welcome from me, Wolf. Welcome. Wkr, Sven Vermeulen -- Gentoo Foundation Trustee | http://foundation.gentoo.org The Gentoo Project <<< http://www.gentoo.org >>> pgpP9qLCpUS0l.pgp Description: PGP signature
