[gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for September

2008-09-01 Thread Mike Frysinger
This is your monthly friendly reminder !  Same bat time (typically
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: [RFC] What features should be included in EAPI 2?

2008-09-01 Thread Peter Volkov
В Чтв, 21/08/2008 в 19:26 -0700, Alec Warner пишет:
 src_prepare is a logically distinct action (maybe if we called it
 src_patch it would be clearer?)

We are not only patching sources there but modify them by other means
too (like sed or find .. rm \{\};). So src_prepare is the name which
better reflects intention.

В Втр, 19/08/2008 в 12:12 +0100, Steve Long пишет:
 Besides saving one line of typing, what is the benefit of adding this
 new phase?

Although this disagreement is already closed I'd like to point that
sometimes it's more than one line:

http://overlays.gentoo.org/dev/pva/browser/x11-apps/gxneur/gxneur-0.9.0_p106.ebuild

Also... well Ryan already made the point I was going to write. :)

-- 
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] PROPERTIES=live (instead of PROPERTIES=live-sources or RESTRICT=live)

2008-09-01 Thread Peter Volkov
В Сбт, 23/08/2008 в 13:39 -0700, Zac Medico пишет:
 Please consider a PROPERTIES=live value that, when set in an ebuild,
 will serve to indicate that the ebuild will use some form of live
 source code that may vary each time that the package is installed.

Does this (and previous similar threads) suggestion means that portage
will not support GLEP 54? Or how it'll be related with said glep?

-- 
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Add support for package.keywords in profiles?

2008-09-01 Thread Peter Volkov
В Пнд, 25/08/2008 в 11:40 -0700, Zac Medico пишет:
 Peter Volkov wrote:
  It's good feature for overlays, but I think we should avoid this in
  portage tree as having same information in two places can be avoided in
  this case: it's better and not so hard to write tool which will keyword
  packages based on package.keywords file and new keywords could be chosen
  like GLEP 22 suggests.
 
 I'm not sure I understand the purpose of this tool that you mention.
  Are you saying that package.keywords might be a good thing to use
 initially and then later, if we choose (maybe we will or maybe we
 won't), we have the option do an automated migrations of specific
 profiles to separate keywords like those in GLEP 22?

Yes. And by initially I meant overlays outside Gentoo tree and then this
tool could be useful during merge with portage tree.

 The question of whether or not we should implement package.keywords
 for the sake of private profiles should be considered separately from
 the question of whether or not we choose a policy to allow the use of
 package.keywords in one or more of our official gentoo profiles.

Ok, then my answer is yes.


With best regards,
-- 
Peter.




Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] PROPERTIES=live (instead of PROPERTIES=live-sources or RESTRICT=live)

2008-09-01 Thread Zac Medico
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Peter Volkov wrote:
 В Сбт, 23/08/2008 в 13:39 -0700, Zac Medico пишет:
 Please consider a PROPERTIES=live value that, when set in an ebuild,
 will serve to indicate that the ebuild will use some form of live
 source code that may vary each time that the package is installed.
 
 Does this (and previous similar threads) suggestion means that portage
 will not support GLEP 54? Or how it'll be related with said glep?
 

It seems like GLEP 54 is intended to fill a similar gap in the
ebuild metadata. With PROPERTIES=live, it doesn't seem like GLEP 54
will be much use since it seems like you can achieve essentially the
same results by using PROPERTIES=live together with the existing
version suffixes such as _pre and _p (to control ordering).
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Thanks,
Zac
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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] PROPERTIES=live (instead of PROPERTIES=live-sources or RESTRICT=live)

2008-09-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 08:08:07 -0700
Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Does this (and previous similar threads) suggestion means that
  portage will not support GLEP 54? Or how it'll be related with said
  glep?
 
 It seems like GLEP 54 is intended to fill a similar gap in the
 ebuild metadata. With PROPERTIES=live, it doesn't seem like GLEP 54
 will be much use since it seems like you can achieve essentially the
 same results by using PROPERTIES=live together with the existing
 version suffixes such as _pre and _p (to control ordering).

Er, no you can't. There is no way of using existing version components
to get the correct ordering.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh


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