[gentoo-dev] Re: New global use flag: vpx or vp8
lör 2010-07-31 klockan 13:37 +0200 skrev Hanno Böck: vpx for supporting googles vp8 codec used in webm. At the moment this is only mplayer and ffmpeg, but it's pretty obvious that apps supporting vp8 will start popping up everywhere (currently working on arista ebuild which will support it). Though we might discuss if vpx is really a good name or it shouldn't be vp8. This feels like the standard discussion about a use flag for function versus a use flag for dependencies. Myself I think this should follow the most commonly for ssl found nameing convention which is that: USE=ssl provides ssl support in all packages. If a package has optional ssl-support they should have this flag. USE=gnutls openssl nss ... finetunes which implementation of ssl to use. They should never exist without USE=ssl unless they package has unconditional ssl support. Of course there are people who think otherwise even for ssl/tls, and so you cannot be sure that you have ssl/tls support even if you have USE=ssl. For example if you cannot connect with vnc using tls to your qemu virtual machine then you have to look up that ebuild to see that tls is only enabled if you have USE=gnutls. I think that is suboptimal and confusing for the user. So I think a USE=vp8 or USE=webm (probably the first) to enable decoding, and USE=vpx should be used to fine tune what implementation to use. Having USE=vp8 (no USE=vpx specified) in make.conf should give you support for vp8 in all packages and the implementation should be the maintainers preference for that package.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Add --hash-style=gnu to LDFLAGS
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:35:57AM +0200, Christian Faulhammer wrote: Hi, Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org: sounds like someone needs to update/extend the arch testing documentation. random e-mails posted to random dev lists are quickly forgotten. new arch testers however should be reading the arch tester documnt. It has been added to the x86 AT guide. V-Li -- Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project URL:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode URL:http://gentoo.faulhammer.org/ Could someone guide me to add --hash-style=gnu to default/linux/amd64/dev profile? I don't want to break anything Thanks -- Markos Chandras (hwoarang) Gentoo Linux Developer Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org Key ID: 441AC410 Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410 pgpi99CkxXDSC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] keepdir /var/run/package/?
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:40 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Eray Aslan wrote: It will be somewhat more work but instead of the above, we can say tmpfs might be used for /var/run and /var/lock and the init scripts should handle this correctly. It feels (for want of a better word) better. i certainly use a tmpfs on /var/run to minimize disk writes. packages that break i file bugs for and/or fix myself. it isnt that hard. plus, it's just good behavior. if /var/run gets removed for whatever reason, people have to re-emerge a bunch of packages to simply create a subdir ? that's silly. for people who do wish to improve their init.d scripts, recreating a dir is easy if your init.d runs after localmount: [ ! -d /var/run/foo ] install -d -m 755 -o fowner -g fgroup /var/run/foo if your init.d runs before localmount, you'll have to resort to normal mkdir/chown/chmod, but i dont think there are many (any?) scripts that'll hit this set of requirements -mike
Re: [gentoo-dev] keepdir /var/run/package/?
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: for people who do wish to improve their init.d scripts, recreating a dir is easy if your init.d runs after localmount: [ ! -d /var/run/foo ] install -d -m 755 -o fowner -g fgroup /var/run/foo oh, and for the very few cases that need to create a file with specific ownership ahead of time (because their daemon sucks and doesnt drop root properly), then you can do: install -m 644 -o fowner -g fgroup /dev/null /var/run/foo-file -mike
Re: [gentoo-dev] keepdir /var/run/package/?
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:40:31 -0400 Mike Frysinger vap...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Eray Aslan wrote: On 08/12/2010 09:48 PM, Samuli Suominen wrote: It says Files under this directory, not Files and directories under this directory. Fair enough. So our policy basically is tmpfs is not supported for /var/run (and also for /var/lock I suppose). it may have been in the past, but it's best to move forward and not sit in the past It will be somewhat more work but instead of the above, we can say tmpfs might be used for /var/run and /var/lock and the init scripts should handle this correctly. It feels (for want of a better word) better. i certainly use a tmpfs on /var/run to minimize disk writes. packages that break i file bugs for and/or fix myself. it isnt that hard. plus, it's just good behavior. if /var/run gets removed for whatever reason, people have to re-emerge a bunch of packages to simply create a subdir ? that's silly. Bug #332633 tracks ebuilds (284) and eclasses (currently none) that run keepdir /var/run*. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=332633 jer
Re: [gentoo-dev] keepdir /var/run/package/?
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Mike Frysinger wrote: for people who do wish to improve their init.d scripts, recreating a dir is easy if your init.d runs after localmount: [ ! -d /var/run/foo ] install -d -m 755 -o fowner -g fgroup /var/run/foo Why not checkpath -d -o fowner:fgroup -m 0755 /var/run/foo? This also corrects wrong owner and permissions for an existing dir. Ulrich
Re: [gentoo-dev] keepdir /var/run/package/?
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Mike Frysinger wrote: for people who do wish to improve their init.d scripts, recreating a dir is easy if your init.d runs after localmount: [ ! -d /var/run/foo ] install -d -m 755 -o fowner -g fgroup /var/run/foo Why not checkpath -d -o fowner:fgroup -m 0755 /var/run/foo? i thought there was something. that was the whole point of Bug 192682. if we dont get openrc out the door, i'll have to add to baselayout-1. -mike
[gentoo-dev] Re: Add --hash-style=gnu to LDFLAGS
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:11:42 +0300
Markos Chandras hwoar...@gentoo.org wrote:
Could someone guide me to add --hash-style=gnu to default/linux/amd64/dev
profile? I don't want to break anything
The thing is, you can't right now. :D LDFLAGS don't stack, meaning you'd
have to do something like
--- targets/developer/make.defaults 26 Jul 2010 19:15:05 - 1.9
+++ targets/developer/make.defaults 14 Aug 2010 03:31:18 -
@@ -12,3 +12,6 @@
# Log eqawarn messages
PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=${PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES} qa
+
+# Help find packages not respecting LDFLAGS
+LDFLAGS=-Wl,--hash-style=gnu ${LDFLAGS}
Which breaks boost-build (bug #293652). That's why I suggested just putting
a message in targets/developer/profile.bashrc (which is otherwise completely
useless).
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[gentoo-dev] Re: Add --hash-style=gnu to LDFLAGS
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 21:43:35 -0600
Ryan Hill dirtye...@gentoo.org wrote:
The thing is, you can't right now. :D LDFLAGS don't stack, meaning you'd
have to do something like
--- targets/developer/make.defaults 26 Jul 2010 19:15:05 - 1.9
+++ targets/developer/make.defaults 14 Aug 2010 03:31:18 -
@@ -12,3 +12,6 @@
# Log eqawarn messages
PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=${PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES} qa
+
+# Help find packages not respecting LDFLAGS
+LDFLAGS=-Wl,--hash-style=gnu ${LDFLAGS}
Oops, I guess that should be default/linux/amd64/dev/make.defaults.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Add --hash-style=gnu to LDFLAGS
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Ryan Hill wrote:
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:11:42 +0300 Markos Chandras wrote:
Could someone guide me to add --hash-style=gnu to default/linux/amd64/dev
profile? I don't want to break anything
The thing is, you can't right now. :D LDFLAGS don't stack, meaning you'd
have to do something like
--- targets/developer/make.defaults 26 Jul 2010 19:15:05 - 1.9
+++ targets/developer/make.defaults 14 Aug 2010 03:31:18 -
@@ -12,3 +12,6 @@
# Log eqawarn messages
PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES=${PORTAGE_ELOG_CLASSES} qa
+
+# Help find packages not respecting LDFLAGS
+LDFLAGS=-Wl,--hash-style=gnu ${LDFLAGS}
Which breaks boost-build (bug #293652). That's why I suggested just putting
a message in targets/developer/profile.bashrc (which is otherwise completely
useless).
that's crap. fix the package or at least work around it:
LDFLAGS=`echo ${LDFLAGS}`
we shouldnt be forced to add random hacks throughout the tree because
of one or two random broken packages
-mike
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