[gentoo-dev] New category for version control

2010-03-04 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi,

as dev-util is really crowded, maybe splitting off a category for
source code management systems would be a good idea.  They are more
important today than some years ago.
 Are any of you against such a split? My proposal would be to call it
dev-scm and put all version controls, direct frontends, plugins and the
like into that.  Diffing tools or programs that only have some kind of
binding to a scm should stay in dev-util.

V-Li

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for version control

2010-03-04 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Christian Faulhammer wrote:

> My proposal would be to call it dev-scm and put all version
> controls, direct frontends, plugins and the like into that.

Better call it dev-vcs to avoid confusion with both the Scheme
language and with software configuration management.

Ulrich



Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for version control

2010-03-04 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:32:47 +0100
Ulrich Mueller  wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Christian Faulhammer wrote:
> > My proposal would be to call it dev-scm and put all version
> > controls, direct frontends, plugins and the like into that.
> 
> Better call it dev-vcs to avoid confusion with both the Scheme
> language and with software configuration management.

And this is why the move wasn't done five years ago: by the time we'd
worked out everything we'd need to do by hand because epkgmove was
broken, the whole thing got bikeshedded to death.

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Ciaran McCreesh


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Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for version control

2010-03-04 Thread Alex Alexander
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 10:32:47AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Christian Faulhammer wrote:
> 
> > My proposal would be to call it dev-scm and put all version
> > controls, direct frontends, plugins and the like into that.
> 
> Better call it dev-vcs to avoid confusion with both the Scheme
> language and with software configuration management.

Nice idea, +1.

I too prefer dev-vcs as the category name.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for version control

2010-03-04 Thread Petteri Räty
On 03/04/2010 11:35 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:32:47 +0100
> Ulrich Mueller  wrote:
>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Christian Faulhammer wrote:
>>> My proposal would be to call it dev-scm and put all version
>>> controls, direct frontends, plugins and the like into that.
>>
>> Better call it dev-vcs to avoid confusion with both the Scheme
>> language and with software configuration management.
> 
> And this is why the move wasn't done five years ago: by the time we'd
> worked out everything we'd need to do by hand because epkgmove was
> broken, the whole thing got bikeshedded to death.
> 

I would let the people maintaining the packages in the new category
decide what to call it.

Regards,
Petteri



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Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for version control

2010-03-04 Thread Dirkjan Ochtman
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:28, Petteri Räty  wrote:
> I would let the people maintaining the packages in the new category
> decide what to call it.

As the primary maintainer for mercurial, hgsubversion and hg-git, I
would prefer dev-vcs.

I wonder, would a Python re-implementation of git libraries belong in
dev-vcs or in dev-python (it's currently dev-python/dulwich)?

Cheers,

Dirkjan



Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for version control

2010-03-04 Thread Ben de Groot
On 4 March 2010 10:58, Alex Alexander  wrote:
> Nice idea, +1.
>
> I too prefer dev-vcs as the category name.

My thoughts exactly.

Cheers,
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Ben de Groot
Gentoo Linux developer (qt, media, lxde, desktop-misc)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for version control

2010-03-04 Thread Antoni Grzymala
Ulrich Mueller dixit (2010-03-04, 10:32):

> > On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Christian Faulhammer wrote:
> 
> > My proposal would be to call it dev-scm and put all version
> > controls, direct frontends, plugins and the like into that.
> 
> Better call it dev-vcs to avoid confusion with both the Scheme
> language and with software configuration management.

+1 for vcs for the above reason. Also, I think vcs is a more popular
acronym than scm (don't quote me on this, though :)).

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for version control

2010-03-04 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:35:28 +
Ciaran McCreesh  wrote:

> And this is why the move wasn't done five years ago: by the time we'd
> worked out everything we'd need to do by hand because epkgmove was
> broken, the whole thing got bikeshedded to death.


https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56967



Re: [gentoo-dev] New category for version control

2010-03-04 Thread Sebastian Pipping
On 03/04/10 10:35, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:32:47 +0100
> Ulrich Mueller  wrote:
>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Christian Faulhammer wrote:
>>> My proposal would be to call it dev-scm and put all version
>>> controls, direct frontends, plugins and the like into that.

I like the idea, +1 from me


>> Better call it dev-vcs to avoid confusion with both the Scheme
>> language and with software configuration management.

Agreed, "scm" is a bad choice.


> And this is why the move wasn't done five years ago: by the time we'd
> worked out everything we'd need to do by hand because epkgmove was
> broken, the whole thing got bikeshedded to death.

So that's a great chance for all of us to prove we can do better this
time.  We have at least two more names in the pool:

  VCS = version control system/software
  RCS = revision control system/software

The former seems more common to me though the second seems prefered in
wikipedia:
- "Version_control" forwards to "Revision control"
- "Comparison of revision control software"
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_revision_control_software

I'd still propose "dev-vcs", unless someone spots something bad about it.



Sebastian