[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory
Samuli Suominen wrote: Joe Sapp (nixphoeni) wrote: nixphoeni09/10/27 11:21:25 Log: Directory /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse added to the repository Since when did we start adding big letters to other than perl -categories? *Very* ugly. Sorry about that, I thought it was a valid package name. I did it because it better reflects the upstream naming schemes. I suppose I could stop and move the few I've done so far back to all lowercase if there's enough consensus. Joe signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory
On Sunday 08 November 2009 08:35:10 Joe Sapp wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Joe Sapp (nixphoeni) wrote: nixphoeni09/10/27 11:21:25 Log: Directory /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse added to the repository Since when did we start adding big letters to other than perl -categories? *Very* ugly. Sorry about that, I thought it was a valid package name. I did it because it better reflects the upstream naming schemes. I suppose I could stop and move the few I've done so far back to all lowercase if there's enough consensus. it is a valid package name. if it makes your life easier, you're allowed to use the name. some people prefer to normalize everything lowercase -- if they're maintaining the package, they're free to do that. -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory
В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 09:40 -0500, Mike Frysinger пишет: On Sunday 08 November 2009 08:35:10 Joe Sapp wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Joe Sapp (nixphoeni) wrote: nixphoeni09/10/27 11:21:25 Log: Directory /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse added to the repository Since when did we start adding big letters to other than perl -categories? *Very* ugly. Sorry about that, I thought it was a valid package name. I did it because it better reflects the upstream naming schemes. I suppose I could stop and move the few I've done so far back to all lowercase if there's enough consensus. it is a valid package name. if it makes your life easier, you're allowed to use the name. some people prefer to normalize everything lowercase -- if they're maintaining the package, they're free to do that. Until it was decided differently, no, it's not: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=3chap=1#doc_chap3 The first subsection, pkg, is the package name, which should only contain lowercase letters, the digits 0-9, and any number of single hyphen (-), underscore (_) or plus (+) characters. -- Peter.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory
On Sunday 08 November 2009 10:25:56 Peter Volkov wrote: В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 09:40 -0500, Mike Frysinger пишет: On Sunday 08 November 2009 08:35:10 Joe Sapp wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Joe Sapp (nixphoeni) wrote: nixphoeni09/10/27 11:21:25 Log: Directory /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse added to the repository Since when did we start adding big letters to other than perl -categories? *Very* ugly. Sorry about that, I thought it was a valid package name. I did it because it better reflects the upstream naming schemes. I suppose I could stop and move the few I've done so far back to all lowercase if there's enough consensus. it is a valid package name. if it makes your life easier, you're allowed to use the name. some people prefer to normalize everything lowercase -- if they're maintaining the package, they're free to do that. Until it was decided differently, no, it's not: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=3chap=1#do c_chap3 The first subsection, pkg, is the package name, which should only contain lowercase letters, the digits 0-9, and any number of single hyphen (-), underscore (_) or plus (+) characters. try quoting from the PMS which has been council approved -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 08 November 2009 10:25:56 Peter Volkov wrote: В Вск, 08/11/2009 в 09:40 -0500, Mike Frysinger пишет: On Sunday 08 November 2009 08:35:10 Joe Sapp wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: Joe Sapp (nixphoeni) wrote: nixphoeni09/10/27 11:21:25 Log: Directory /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse added to the repository Since when did we start adding big letters to other than perl -categories? *Very* ugly. Sorry about that, I thought it was a valid package name. I did it because it better reflects the upstream naming schemes. I suppose I could stop and move the few I've done so far back to all lowercase if there's enough consensus. it is a valid package name. if it makes your life easier, you're allowed to use the name. some people prefer to normalize everything lowercase -- if they're maintaining the package, they're free to do that. Until it was decided differently, no, it's not: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=3chap=1#do c_chap3 The first subsection, pkg, is the package name, which should only contain lowercase letters, the digits 0-9, and any number of single hyphen (-), underscore (_) or plus (+) characters. try quoting from the PMS which has been council approved -mike For EAPI 0 there's only an approved draft but nothing final. But even as a draft it's more accurate than devrel handbook that in all reality should loose all the technical stuff in favor of devmanual. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Mike Frysinger wrote: The first subsection, pkg, is the package name, which should only contain lowercase letters, the digits 0-9, and any number of single hyphen (-), underscore (_) or plus (+) characters. try quoting from the PMS which has been council approved That's not a contradiction. There are several places where the devmanual is more restrictive than PMS. Of course the package manager must accept capital letters in names. That doesn't necessarily imply that they should be used all over the tree. Ulrich
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory
On Sunday 08 November 2009 11:42:31 Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Mike Frysinger wrote: The first subsection, pkg, is the package name, which should only contain lowercase letters, the digits 0-9, and any number of single hyphen (-), underscore (_) or plus (+) characters. try quoting from the PMS which has been council approved That's not a contradiction. There are several places where the devmanual is more restrictive than PMS. and in this case, the devmanual is irrelevant and should be deleted Of course the package manager must accept capital letters in names. right, because we've always had mixed case in the tree and anything that parses the tree/ebuilds must support both if it has any chance of working. this isnt going to change. That doesn't necessarily imply that they should be used all over the tree. if it makes maintaining a package easier (as appears to be the case for Joe), then there's no technical reason whatsoever to tell him otherwise. if you dislike mixed case, then dont use it. but Joe is free to do so. -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Mike Frysinger wrote: [...] we've always had mixed case in the tree and anything that parses the tree/ebuilds must support both if it has any chance of working. this isnt going to change. I think everyone agrees on this one. That doesn't necessarily imply that they should be used all over the tree. if it makes maintaining a package easier (as appears to be the case for Joe), then there's no technical reason whatsoever to tell him otherwise. if you dislike mixed case, then dont use it. but Joe is free to do so. Shouldn't the rationale be to make it easy for users, not for maintainers? Ulrich
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory
On Sunday 08 November 2009 12:15:44 Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Mike Frysinger wrote: That doesn't necessarily imply that they should be used all over the tree. if it makes maintaining a package easier (as appears to be the case for Joe), then there's no technical reason whatsoever to tell him otherwise. if you dislike mixed case, then dont use it. but Joe is free to do so. Shouldn't the rationale be to make it easy for users, not for maintainers? of course -- fix the package manager to do a case insensitive search when someone says `emerge foo` but the package is actually Foo. -mike signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory
Mike Frysinger wrote: if it makes maintaining a package easier (as appears to be the case for Joe), then there's no technical reason whatsoever to tell him otherwise. if you dislike mixed case, then dont use it. but Joe is free to do so. For what it's worth, this is exactly the reason. The eclass can use a trivial bash substitution to access the package name (for SRC_URI, for example) instead of requiring each ebuild to set a variable specifying how the information in the ebuild name should be capitalized. Joe signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse: - New directory
Joe Sapp (nixphoeni) wrote: nixphoeni09/10/27 11:21:25 Log: Directory /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/x11-plugins/desklet-Mouse added to the repository Since when did we start adding big letters to other than perl -categories? *Very* ugly.
