Re: [gentoo-dev] Touching profiles
W dniu 03.02.2011 08:39, Torsten Veller pisze: * Theo Chatzimichos tampak...@gentoo.org: For the record, Kacper told me today that every developer is allowed to touch ppc/ppc64 profiles. Archies that don't want others to touch their profiles should mention it in the devmanual. I was not aware of that, I thought that !arch member is not allowed to touch arch-specific profiles. Just to be clear I was talking about package.mask file. Kitten-forbid you tweak e.g. make.defaults. Honestly, I don't see the reasons why dev should be forbid to *add* pkgs to package.mask file for other profiles that inherit base. *Removing* is quite different, but again common sense advise you shouldn't lift it until reason for masking is gone. That you cannot verify if you're not an arch member. The situation is complicated: snip - Some arch teams don't want other devs to touch their profiles: DON'T TOUCH THIS FILE. Instead, file a bug and assign it to... But this arch is neiter mentioned in the handbook nor in the manual: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2chap=5#doc_chap4 http://devmanual.gentoo.org/archs/index.html Clearly if something is written in bold and at the very top of the file you should respect. I'm sure there are reasons for it and I've never seen that particular arch being unresponsive. - The devhandbook[2] is also kind of unmaintained. Devmanual and -handbook are waiting for a merge AFAIR. - And there is already a stalled bug[3] about Developer Handbook should document how/when to touch arch profiles' files Summary: You do it wrong either way. The problem actually boils down to asking... Arch team members are out there on irc, have mail aliases, etc. This very thread was started due to lack of communication. It could have looked like that: KDE: I would like to unmask KDE-4.6.0 in base, but that requires mask in ppc64/package.mask. Can I do it? PPC64: Sure, go ahead. and it would have taken approx. 30s Cheers, Kacper signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Touching profiles
On Thursday 03 February 2011 10:00:11 Kacper Kowalik wrote: KDE: I would like to unmask KDE-4.6.0 in base, but that requires mask in ppc64/package.mask. Can I do it? PPC64: Sure, go ahead. and it would have taken approx. 30s Hi Kacper, I'm really glad you are taking care of this now, it improves the situation enormously. (Some months ago, I tried to do exactly what you suggested. * I filed a bug, * tried to ping the arch on irc about a week later, * and sent two e-mails to the arch alias (as far as I remember). None of this elicited ANY response at all. Which, understandably, leads to some frustration if the issue could be cleared up in 30s.) Cheers, Andreas -- Andreas K. Huettel Gentoo Linux developer dilfri...@gentoo.org http://www.akhuettel.de/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-dev] Touching profiles
* Theo Chatzimichos tampak...@gentoo.org: For the record, Kacper told me today that every developer is allowed to touch ppc/ppc64 profiles. Archies that don't want others to touch their profiles should mention it in the devmanual. I was not aware of that, I thought that !arch member is not allowed to touch arch-specific profiles. The situation is complicated: - The devmanual[1] reference is wrong. I wonder where it comes from. The devmanual wasn't considered policy (mainly because it was started by ca connection devmanual - policy creeps in. *shrug* - Some arch teams don't want other devs to touch their profiles: DON'T TOUCH THIS FILE. Instead, file a bug and assign it to... But this arch is neiter mentioned in the handbook nor in the manual: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=2chap=5#doc_chap4 http://devmanual.gentoo.org/archs/index.html - The devhandbook[2] is also kind of unmaintained. Devmanual and -handbook are waiting for a merge AFAIR. - And there is already a stalled bug[3] about Developer Handbook should document how/when to touch arch profiles' files Summary: You do it wrong either way. [1] http://devmanual.gentoo.org [2] http://devrel.gentoo.org/handbook [3] https://bugs.gentoo.org/304435 -- Thanks
