Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Keyword amd64 - x86_64
On 21-02-2008 19:40:43 +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Marius Mauch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - x64 is IMO the worst name for the architecture (originally a MS marketing term later adopted by Sun, looks too similar to x86, name doesn't make any sense really if you compare it to x86) Marius said all I wanted to say on that name. Beside, does it really changes stuff for anybody beside Intel fanboys? I guess amd64 is just as much a marketing term as x64 then, and whether or not fanboys, I don't care, but amd64-macos just doesn't make any sense to me, and em64t is just as bad as (if not worse than) amd64. I could even live with i64, even though that might get confused with ia64. Long story short, in the end it's just a keyword, so nothing life threathening. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Keyword amd64 - x86_64
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 07:40:43PM +0100, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Beside, does it really changes stuff for anybody beside Intel fanboys? I guess there may be some confusion for people installing their first amd64 on a Intel box. However, i think this sort of confusion is solved more appropiately by telling them amd64 is fine for their hardware than renaming it inside Gentoo with all the things that need changing and can easily be overlooked. cheers, Wernfried -- Wernfried Haas (amne) - amne (at) gentoo.org Gentoo Forums - http://forums.gentoo.org forum-mods (at) gentoo.org #gentoo-forums (freenode) pgpi9yd2ADUgR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Keyword amd64 - x86_64
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Beside, does it really changes stuff for anybody beside Intel fanboys? In fairness, not just for Intel fanboys. Drop by the forums some time and just try to count up all the threads asking are the amd64 stages/media appropriate for my computer? i have a core 2 and similar. Technically, x86-64 is still correct, but as Marius mentioned earlier, there would have to be a heckuva lot of documentation changes, which wouldn't make the GDP happpy. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Keyword amd64 - x86_64
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 13:37 -0800, Josh Saddler wrote: Technically, x86-64 is still correct, but as Marius mentioned earlier, there would have to be a heckuva lot of documentation changes, which wouldn't make the GDP happpy. Doubt the amd64 team, and infra would be happy either. Since likely have to make changes there as well. Lots of work for sure. Benefit little if any. No worries here, just wanted to toss it out there. Sorry for repeating this. -- William L. Thomson Jr. Gentoo/amd64/Java signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Keyword amd64 - x86_64
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 19:42 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: But I agree, rekeywording amd64 to x86_64 would probably be more work than it's worth. Can we not just hardwire an alias into the emerge codebase? I must admit, from a purely optical standpoint, the idea of saying my system is amd64 when it is nothing of the sort really grates. If, internally, it just translated x86_64 to amd64 wouldn't that be ok? AfC Sydney -- gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Keyword amd64 - x86_64
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 16:27 +1100, Andrew Cowie wrote: On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 19:42 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: But I agree, rekeywording amd64 to x86_64 would probably be more work than it's worth. Can we not just hardwire an alias into the emerge codebase? I must admit, from a purely optical standpoint, the idea of saying my system is amd64 when it is nothing of the sort really grates. If, internally, it just translated x86_64 to amd64 wouldn't that be ok? I really don't see the problem with AMD64, why it would be more wrong than ia32 or x86 (based on Intel's product numbers!). AMD64 was invented by AMD and they get to pick the name for it. The keyword amd64 in Gentoo when Intel was still dismissing AMD64... -- Olivier Crête [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Developer signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
