Re: [gentoo-dev] SLOTed MySQL or not?
Ramon van Alteren wrote: No dev but +1 from me. I liked slotted mysql a lot and use it extensively. It has helped us tremendously during our upgrade path and I would be very sad to see it go. Public opinion is just that, public opinion, doesn't neccesarily mean something went wrong. FWIW, I'd like to keep the slotted mysql ebuilds. If they are removed from the tree I'll re-add them to our local frozen tree for our company. We're not a hosting company BTW, we just run lots of mysql daemons ;-) Ramon Thanks to Stuart hosting it's avaiable again Browse: $ http://svn.gnqs.org/projects/gentoo-mysql-overlay/browser/slotted Checkout: $ svn co http://svn.gnqs.org/svn/gentoo-mysql-overlay/slotted slotted I did not have the time to test it, and in the near future I will also be rather busy. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] SLOTed MySQL or not?
> Maybe there needs to be an IWANTSLOTS feature or something, because the same > rationale for why I was against a slotted mysql would have other people > against a slotted kde, or slotted perl (ouch, so close to home, even if its > conceptually fictional) - I neither need nor desire having multiple copies of > the application available on one box, when i am only ever going to connect to > one running copy. Maybe I'm misreading your comment here, but I don't see how "I only want to install one version" is an argument against having the _ability_ to install multiple versions. Just because you neither need nor desire it doesn't mean it's not extremely useful to many other users. > H...a feature flag that (where applicable) disabled retaining other slots > might be nice come to think of itdisabled > for the packages you need multiples of (berkdb?) but optionally enabled for > packages like WM's and relational DB's where you just might not want more > copies...or to remember to go back and unmerge and track the stray files > for That seems like a lot of work for something that is easily done through: emerge --prune -p then emerge --unmerge signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] SLOTed MySQL or not?
> >Before to this to happen I'll try my best to close the greatest number > >of bugs still open (many already are but not committed) and manage to > >bring MySQL back to the unslotted version. > > > >[1] > >Yes. 12% [ 12 ] > >No. 75% [ 72 ] > >No preference. 11% [ 11 ] > > > I have one question: > Who answer NO on poll? Users don't always know what's right for themselves, and I'm sure a big percentage of these "nos" are because people don't want to go through the hassle of figuring out how to switch to slotted, not because it's a bad idea. This is a MUCH NEEDED feature and one I was extremely glad someone worked on. Don't get rid of it. I didn't even notice this thread until I noticed weirdness in my mysql upgrade from slotted back to unslotted. For gods sake, don't get rid of this feature just because a few users don't want to read some docs. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-dev] SLOTed MySQL or not?
Ramon van Alteren wrote: > No dev but +1 from me. > I liked slotted mysql a lot and use it extensively. > > It has helped us tremendously during our upgrade path and I would be > very sad to see it go. > > Public opinion is just that, public opinion, doesn't neccesarily mean > something went wrong. > > FWIW, I'd like to keep the slotted mysql ebuilds. If they are removed > from the tree I'll re-add them to our local frozen tree for our company. > > We're not a hosting company BTW, we just run lots of mysql daemons ;-) > > Ramon > Slotted MySQL will definitely go away from the main Portage tree, there only the normal MySQL ebuilds will remain. Atm we're setting up an overlay for MySQL, so there you'll still be able to download the slotted ebuilds and eventually if someone's intersted he can maintain them/bring them to a usable, better state or whatever, but we (MySQL Herd) won't do that at the moment and will only maintain and provide non-slotted MySQL ebuilds. -- Best regards, Luca Longinotti aka CHTEKK LongiTEKK Networks Admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gentoo Dev: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SysCP Dev: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TILUG Supporter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] SLOTed MySQL or not?
On Thursday 09 March 2006 11:00, Doug Goldstein wrote: > Don't be so hard on yourself. Everyone thinks you did a great job with > MySQL. Ditto - and I voted against a slotted mysql at that :/ Maybe there needs to be an IWANTSLOTS feature or something, because the same rationale for why I was against a slotted mysql would have other people against a slotted kde, or slotted perl (ouch, so close to home, even if its conceptually fictional) - I neither need nor desire having multiple copies of the application available on one box, when i am only ever going to connect to one running copy. H...a feature flag that (where applicable) disabled retaining other slots might be nice come to think of itdisabled for the packages you need multiples of (berkdb?) but optionally enabled for packages like WM's and relational DB's where you just might not want more copies...or to remember to go back and unmerge and track the stray files for Just my 2cents. Don't take the vote results the wrong way - at leat you know people cared enough to comment, which means your working on something worthwhile :) ~mcummings -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] SLOTed MySQL or not?
No dev but +1 from me. I liked slotted mysql a lot and use it extensively. It has helped us tremendously during our upgrade path and I would be very sad to see it go. Public opinion is just that, public opinion, doesn't neccesarily mean something went wrong. FWIW, I'd like to keep the slotted mysql ebuilds. If they are removed from the tree I'll re-add them to our local frozen tree for our company. We're not a hosting company BTW, we just run lots of mysql daemons ;-) Ramon -- To be stupid and selfish and to have good health are the three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, the others are useless. Gustave Flaubert -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] SLOTed MySQL or not?
Francesco Riosa wrote: > Luca (chtekk) Longinotti, will also take care of MySQL, on my request, > in a near future, then I'll stay as a backup maintainer for the time > coming, or leave if needed for whatever reason. Don't be so hard on yourself. Everyone thinks you did a great job with MySQL. Only reason I think people were against the slotted versions is because it meant a change and actually reading configuration docs and actually doing something. Because emerge -uD world magically didn't make everything work with the latest upstream all of a sudden. I know I avoided the slotted upgrade for a bit just cause I didn't have time to learn anything new for a couple of days but once I did it seemed good. Forget public opinion, stick to it and support it and it will catch on. And it'll show another good power of Gentoo. Example being for hosting companies like mentioned by Alexander. -- Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] SLOTed MySQL or not?
Luca Longinotti wrote: > As the title says, what would you prefer for the future of MySQL in Gentoo? > Please take a moment to read > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-438557.html and vote (and > eventually comment on it). > Thanks! http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125599 deprecation of "Slotted MySQL Upgrade and Migration Guide" -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] SLOTed MySQL or not?
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 11:28:32AM +, Francesco Riosa wrote: Before to this to happen I'll try my best to close the greatest number of bugs still open (many already are but not committed) and manage to bring MySQL back to the unslotted version. [1] Yes. 12% [ 12 ] No. 75% [ 72 ] No preference. 11% [ 11 ] I have one question: Who answer NO on poll? As for me slotted version of mysql is better for hosting companies. I can present to client anothers versions of mysql: 4.1 and 5.0 for example In php.ini for client i only change the port where mysql php module connected and client have 5.0 for example, but others client have 4.1 as default. I think it's have reason. -- WBR, Alexander Simonov (DEVL-UANIC) Ukrainian Gentoo Community Coordinator -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-dev] SLOTed MySQL or not?
Luca Longinotti wrote: > As the title says, what would you prefer for the future of MySQL in Gentoo? > Please take a moment to read > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-438557.html and vote (and > eventually comment on it). > Thanks! I've asked to Luca to have one week poll but the results [1] show already that MySQL will be unslotted at the end. Thank you to spend the time to do that I should do it _before_ to try the slotting road (and may be speak with the other MySQL maintainer before :p). Luca (chtekk) Longinotti, will also take care of MySQL, on my request, in a near future, then I'll stay as a backup maintainer for the time coming, or leave if needed for whatever reason. Before to this to happen I'll try my best to close the greatest number of bugs still open (many already are but not committed) and manage to bring MySQL back to the unslotted version. [1] Yes. 12% [ 12 ] No. 75% [ 72 ] No preference. 11% [ 11 ] Best regards, Francesco Riosa -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
