Re: [gentoo-dev] depend.apache.eclass and EAPI=6

[Kent Fredric]

On Sat, 1 Oct 2016 00:48:52 +0200
Kristian Fiskerstrand  wrote:

> > However I *want* the message to be loud and obnoxious.
> > We need  eblinkwarn ... :o)
> >  
> 
> I don't see why users should be bothered with maintainer mistakes that
> doesn't affect them (in this particular circumstance)

Sounds like a job for a repoman QA check && autorepoman


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Re: [gentoo-dev] depend.apache.eclass and EAPI=6

[Kristian Fiskerstrand]

On 10/01/2016 12:45 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2016, 00:12:26 schrieb Kristian Fiskerstrand:
>> On 10/01/2016 12:09 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
>>> Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2016, 00:01:54 schrieb Kristian Fiskerstrand:
> This *will* break the following ebuilds:
>
> www-apps/bugzilla-4.4.12
> www-apps/bugzilla-5.0.3
> www-apache/mod_limitipconn-0.24-r2
> www-apache/mod_nss-1.0.12-r1
> app-eselect/eselect-php-0.9.1
> net-analyzer/pnp4nagios-0.6.25-r3
> net-analyzer/icinga2-2.4.10-r1

 Several of these ebuilds are in stable, so I strongly oppose any action
 that breaks existing ebuilds.
>>>
>>> Right. So instead I'll ad a big fat and ugly ewarn message, but I'll do
>>> that right now. :)
> 
>> As its not user-breaking/affecting, I believe ewarn is wrong as well.
>> Should just open bug reports towards the affected packages with a tracker
> 
> I agree that what we really need here is eqawarn ...
> 
> However I *want* the message to be loud and obnoxious.
> We need  eblinkwarn ... :o)
>

I don't see why users should be bothered with maintainer mistakes that
doesn't affect them (in this particular circumstance)


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Re: [gentoo-dev] depend.apache.eclass and EAPI=6

[Andreas K. Huettel]

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Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2016, 00:12:26 schrieb Kristian Fiskerstrand:
> On 10/01/2016 12:09 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> > Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2016, 00:01:54 schrieb Kristian Fiskerstrand:
> >>> This *will* break the following ebuilds:
> >>> 
> >>> www-apps/bugzilla-4.4.12
> >>> www-apps/bugzilla-5.0.3
> >>> www-apache/mod_limitipconn-0.24-r2
> >>> www-apache/mod_nss-1.0.12-r1
> >>> app-eselect/eselect-php-0.9.1
> >>> net-analyzer/pnp4nagios-0.6.25-r3
> >>> net-analyzer/icinga2-2.4.10-r1
> >> 
> >> Several of these ebuilds are in stable, so I strongly oppose any action
> >> that breaks existing ebuilds.
> > 
> > Right. So instead I'll ad a big fat and ugly ewarn message, but I'll do
> > that right now. :)
> 
> As its not user-breaking/affecting, I believe ewarn is wrong as well.
> Should just open bug reports towards the affected packages with a tracker

I agree that what we really need here is eqawarn ...

However I *want* the message to be loud and obnoxious.
We need  eblinkwarn ... :o)

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Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer 
dilfri...@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/

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Re: [gentoo-dev] depend.apache.eclass and EAPI=6

[Michael Orlitzky]

On 09/30/2016 05:58 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> 
> app-eselect/eselect-php-0.9.1

Waiting on stabilization of the fixed version:

  https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=592968

arm, hppa, ia64, ppc, ppc64, sparc, and x86.

Re: [gentoo-dev] depend.apache.eclass and EAPI=6

[Kristian Fiskerstrand]

On 10/01/2016 12:09 AM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2016, 00:01:54 schrieb Kristian Fiskerstrand:
> 
>>> This *will* break the following ebuilds:
>>>
>>> www-apps/bugzilla-4.4.12
>>> www-apps/bugzilla-5.0.3
>>> www-apache/mod_limitipconn-0.24-r2
>>> www-apache/mod_nss-1.0.12-r1
>>> app-eselect/eselect-php-0.9.1
>>> net-analyzer/pnp4nagios-0.6.25-r3
>>> net-analyzer/icinga2-2.4.10-r1
> 
>> Several of these ebuilds are in stable, so I strongly oppose any action
>> that breaks existing ebuilds.
> 
> 
> Right. So instead I'll ad a big fat and ugly ewarn message, but I'll do that 
> right now. :)
> 

As its not user-breaking/affecting, I believe ewarn is wrong as well.
Should just open bug reports towards the affected packages with a tracker

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Re: [gentoo-dev] depend.apache.eclass and EAPI=6

[Andreas K. Huettel]

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Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2016, 00:01:54 schrieb Kristian Fiskerstrand:
>
> > This *will* break the following ebuilds:
> > 
> > www-apps/bugzilla-4.4.12
> > www-apps/bugzilla-5.0.3
> > www-apache/mod_limitipconn-0.24-r2
> > www-apache/mod_nss-1.0.12-r1
> > app-eselect/eselect-php-0.9.1
> > net-analyzer/pnp4nagios-0.6.25-r3
> > net-analyzer/icinga2-2.4.10-r1
> 
> Several of these ebuilds are in stable, so I strongly oppose any action
> that breaks existing ebuilds.
> 

Right. So instead I'll ad a big fat and ugly ewarn message, but I'll do that 
right now. :)

> I made my thoughts on this clear during the last council meeting, I
> believe the correct action is a pro-active approach where we require
> eclasses to have a defined set of approved EAPIs set and updated by the
> eclass maintainer in order to not require an audit by each ebuild
> maintainer inheriting the eclass. This was discussed on the last council
> meeting but did not get to a vote.

You get my vote for that...

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Gentoo Linux developer 
dilfri...@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/

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Re: [gentoo-dev] depend.apache.eclass and EAPI=6

[Kristian Fiskerstrand]

On 09/30/2016 11:58 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> during fiddling with mod_perl I stumbled across bug 575252 - in short,
> depend.apache.eclass doesn't work properly with EAPI=6.
> 
> So, I'm going to add in a few days a default chunk of code at its start, which
> will die in EAPI=6.
> 
> This *will* break the following ebuilds:
> 
> www-apps/bugzilla-4.4.12
> www-apps/bugzilla-5.0.3
> www-apache/mod_limitipconn-0.24-r2
> www-apache/mod_nss-1.0.12-r1
> app-eselect/eselect-php-0.9.1
> net-analyzer/pnp4nagios-0.6.25-r3
> net-analyzer/icinga2-2.4.10-r1
> 

Several of these ebuilds are in stable, so I strongly oppose any action
that breaks existing ebuilds.

I made my thoughts on this clear during the last council meeting, I
believe the correct action is a pro-active approach where we require
eclasses to have a defined set of approved EAPIs set and updated by the
eclass maintainer in order to not require an audit by each ebuild
maintainer inheriting the eclass. This was discussed on the last council
meeting but did not get to a vote.

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