[gentoo-user] Re: wine'ing some games
William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I dont regard this as a free speech issue, but about common decency. As do I. I might be annoyed by people using bad language, too, (not necessarily "bad" words, but when people don't bother to express their problems/opinions understandably), but I don't write snipe people in public forums about it. What we need to get along on this kind of list is tolerance, not a bad word list. That way lies censorship. -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ ICQ: 82945879 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: wine'ing some games
Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > #2. I did not berate him. I merely pointed out that I and perhaps > others find his choice of words unexceptable. If that was actually your intention, you should have mailed him personally, and not the list. (Maybe you think I should heed my own advice here. But then again, my intention is to berate.) > #3. I am nowhere near a language bigot, At least not a good one, since you doesn't even care to spell acceptable correctly. > but I am a gentleman. Well, then show it and don't metaphorically lambaste people in public forums in the future. Especially not for bagatelles like this one. -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ ICQ: 82945879 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: wine'ing some games (OT)
"Chris Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here's a new concept for you: If you want people to respect you, then > try to respect them. If you don't respect others, you deserve what you > get. It's your choice. > > In public, people normally follow a code of rules called 'ethics'. In > private you can do whatever you like. I think THIS is fair. I'm pretty sure that what words I use or not has nothing to do with my ethics. Seeing the word CENSORED hasn't harmed anyone. If you think you (or your over-protected daughters) might be the first, then make a appropriate procmail rule, and stop buggering us about it. -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ ICQ: 82945879 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: which type of access to a webserver?
"Matthias F. Brandstetter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ok, and how can I chroot SFTP only (ie. not SSH), and only for some > users (ee. not root)? Give them ssh access, but a restricted login shell, in which they can only run sftp, and make a wrapper for sftp, that runs it chrooted. There's a bunch of restricted shells out there, there should be something that does what you want. -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ ICQ: 82945879 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: which type of access to a webserver?
"Matthias F. Brandstetter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have a question to all of you: What do you think, which would be the > "best", ie. "most secure" access to a webserver, so that users can > update their sites? > > To be more specific: I can't allow ssh login for most of this users > for several reasons, that's why I set /bin/false as login shell for > them. Ok, so no ssh, no ftp (sidenote: I hate [S]FTP[S] for several > reasons, ee. firewall issues and so forth). Use ssh with a restricted shell. Restrict them to sftp only. Firewall issues? Fix the firewall. -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ ICQ: 82945879 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: zlib broke
Mike Arrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>>> Install zlib-1.1.4-r2 into /var/tmp/portage/zlib-1.1.4-r2/image/ category sys-libs > /usr/lib/portage/bin/dolib: libz.so.1.1.4 does not exist > chmod: failed to get attributes of `libz.so.*': No such file or directory I had this too. That's when I'm glad I keep old tbz2's for a while. -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Gnus problems
Valentino Volonghi aka Dialtone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Another problem I have is how to download group list, I can't find the > command string to do so. fetchnews -vv doesn't seem to work properly. > Watching my logs I get this: man fetchnews. Read about the -f option. > Oct 28 08:16:09 [leafnode] config: "create_all_links=0" found in > section of server news.cis.dfn.de, please move it in front of any > server declaration > Oct 28 08:16:09 [leafnode] config: "filterfile=/etc/leafnode/filters" > found in section of server news.cis.dfn.de, please move it in front of > any server declaration Do what it says. > Oct 28 08:16:30 [su(pam_unix)] session opened for user root by > dialtone(uid=1000) > Oct 28 08:16:38 [xinetd] START: nntp pid=12238 from=127.0.0.1 > Oct 28 08:16:38 [xinetd] FAIL: nntp address from=127.0.0.1 > Oct 28 08:16:42 [su(pam_unix)] session closed for user root > - Last output repeated twice - > Oct 28 08:25:47 [xinetd] START: nntp pid=16284 from=127.0.0.1 > Oct 28 08:25:47 [xinetd] FAIL: nntp address from=127.0.0.1 > Oct 28 08:26:54 [su(pam_unix)] session opened for user root by > dialtone(uid=1000) I hope you are only trying to connect as root for testing. -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo noob here
Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 04:39:20PM -0400, Kwame Opam wrote: >> Just curious. How long would a full online install take? It occurs to >> me that I have some things to do by the week's end, but having >> everything optimized is what I really want to see. Should I expect a >> 24 hour install on broadband? > > Totally depends on your system. On a K7-900 with 512mb ram on > broadband it was probably a 6 hour install to the end of make system > (ie: no desktop stuff installed). For a full KDE on the same system > it was probably 16 hours approx (ie: wild ass guess), and less than > that for a full gnome install. Openoffice takes about 24 hours to > install on that machine. One thing that might speed things up a bit during the initial install is to run emerge with the -f option, starting a while before compiling. That way, you will download sources continuously. (emerge --help for details on the -f option) -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Really off topic question: Matrix Reloaded
Norberto Bensa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So far, I've rent "The Matrix: Reloaded" three times in three > different stores now, and I can't watch it. When I put the DVD disc in > the drive, the drive does some "clack, clack, clack" sounds and then > nothing; It behaves like if I didn't load any disc at all. I can > however watch the second DVD disc "the making of..." without any > problems. Maybe your DVD drive has taste? -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Sudo question
Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Could you please provide more detail how to acheive it. I expect to > send and receive email in User=satimis account not as root. The > recipient can't recognize the emails coming from root. Beside in case > of virus attack root will not be affected. You can read how to do it in the Exim FAQ (http://www.exim.org/exim-html-4.20/doc/html/FAQ.html), question 0401. -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Sudo question
Stephen Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > As ROOT I carry out adminstration work but I communicate with outside > World as USER. Occasionally while doing administration I need to > refer to data on emails. Make root an alias for your normal user name instead. Myself I run exim and have a *: bkhl in my aliases, that makes mail to anyone not mentioned in the aliases go to me. (Makes sense on a mostly single user system.) -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: runat ?
raptor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And u have to be root to do it, No, you don't. > and i dont want to run command every day but just once..etc.. :") That's a valid reason to use at instead. -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: darcs or arch as CVS alternative
Gour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Yup. I remember your post (was it Ruby list? :-) That's completely possible. > There is quite some time since I discovered Subversion, but it looks > like overkill for my local needs - many components are needed for > install, while bith darcs & arch are very simple and powerful > replacement for CVS' limits. If you like simplicity of installation, you might want to try arch (dev-util/tla) first, since it's a C program, with a single binary, while darcs is written in Haskell. (Not that it's very hard to install Haskell, just that you wont have to if you decide you like arch). Also, I think arch has a larger user base, which might not mean much to you directly, but it means it's likely that bugs will be discovered and fixed quicker etc. -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: darcs or arch as CVS alternative
Tom Eastman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I don't know anything at all about either of those two... but I've > been a loyal fan of Subversion [1] ever since I discovered it a year > ago. It might be worth looking into it as well. If you decide to try it, keep good backups though. I used it for a little while, but stopped since it kept messing up the database. As I understand it there's still a problem with that. -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: OT: How many of you are 100% Linux?
Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Fine as an fyi, but the poster was complaining about the dearth of > music software for l-i-n-u-x. No amount of mucking around will > overcome this deficit. Sure, but I just wanted to point out that you can make music without having bleeding edge software. Don't get me wrong, I would like good free audio software, too. Also I think we're getting there. The Linux sound system (OSS) has been a mess to work with, but the new one (ALSA) promises to change that radically. (Mostly when it comes to driver uniformity and support for high-end sound cards.) -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: OT: How many of you are 100% Linux?
tony Scharf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I personaly would love to see linux compete in the audio realm, but > with the current hardware support being as abysmal as it is, and the > simple fact that the music apps are VERY far behind, I dont see it > happening anytime soon. I am currently emersing myself in C++ so that > I can eventually contribute to these projects. I'm also a musician, but I'm running only Linux on my desktop machine. For sequencing I use a Macintosh Classic II with a good sequencer program from 1993 on it, and a hardware multitracker for recording. No mucking about with Windows or MacOS X for me. -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo distfiles - how much space
Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Seeing the thread was originally about a server environment, I want to > add just one small possible problem in this scenario. What if two > computers are trying to fetch the same file at the same time? What > happens is that they both fail. Just playing the devil's > advocate... for the most part, this situation is easy to avoid but one > must be aware of it before actively avoiding... That should be cool, given all the MD5-sum checking. Would NFS not do the right thing, you will get a sensible error and can try again. -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo distfiles - how much space
Andrew Gaffney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > For my LAN, I have 1 computer that has /usr/portage shared via NFS. On > all the other computers, I have this NFS share mounted as > /usr/portage. I have a cron job that runs every night that does > 'emerge sync' and 'emerge -uDf world' on the main computer. This way, > they all have access to the same portage tree and the same > distfiles. Also, if I want to install a new package on one of the > computers, If I download it on any one of the other computers, it > saves it to the shared /usr/portage/distfiles, so all the other > computers have access to it. If the machines are similar enough, you can even share the binary packages in /usr/portage/packages· That would save you some CPU cycles. -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Book
"Matthias F. Brandstetter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > -- quoting Frederic SOSSON -- >> Maybe an "allready" asked question: is there a Gentoo book available? > > I know of none (printed) Gentoo book, but under [1] you'll find a wide > spectrum of (Gentoo related) documentation (in several languages). > > HTH! Greets, Matthias > > footnote: > [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml Also, LFS might be of interest. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo distfiles - how much space
Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Monday 20 October 2003 15:47, Björn Lindström wrote: >> Erwin Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > thanks, but how much space needs ALL of them (if i synchronise them >> > from a mirror)? >> >> a) Why on earth would you do that? (Unless you're setting up a public >> mirror, that's a good thing.) >> >> b) ~10Gb > > Ahem? I just checked ftp://ftp.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp/GENTOO/distfiles size > and found it to be 12375 files and 22.7gb. Ehem, I guess it's grown a bit since I last checked, then. (If you mean 22.7Gb, at least ;-) -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo distfiles - how much space
Erwin Lang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > thanks, but how much space needs ALL of them (if i synchronise them > from a mirror)? a) Why on earth would you do that? (Unless you're setting up a public mirror, that's a good thing.) b) ~10Gb -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Turning off emerge's xterm title setting
emerge's habit of setting the titles of xterms breaks my ratpoison setup. Is there some way to turn that feature off? -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: (mozilla) firbird 0.7 released
Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well the latest firebird is out, but the download site seems to be > pegged; I can't get there yet. What looks slicker-n-snot is the > ability to bookmark a set of open tabs and reopen all automatically > later. You can do that already in 0.6.1. It's certainly slick, though. -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: galeon 1.3
Chris Bare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Now that I've upgraded to gnome 2.4, galeon 1.2 won't run unless I > start gconfd-1 manually first. So I thought I'd try galeon 1.3 since > other distros like Mandrake have been shipping 1.3 for quite a while. > I set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" and did emerge -p galeon. I was > surprised to see that it wanted to upgrade gcc to 3.3.1. Other than > the obvious reason that *everything* depends on gcc, why does galeon > have a specific dependency on 3.3.1? I tested other ~x86 packages, > like openoffice 1.1 and they did not want to upgrade gcc. Instead of setting ACCEPT_KEYWORDS, try to give the ebuild version explicitly. Something like: $ emerge -p /usr/portage/net-www/galeon/galeon-1.3.9.ebuild -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ Download the new *Elektrubadur* demo from http://elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] info error at emerge
I get this error after each emerge. What is up with that? install-info: menu item `Bash' already exists, for file `bash' * Processed 86 info files; 1 errors. -- Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://bkhl.elektrubadur.se/ Download the new *Elektrubadur* demo from http://elektrubadur.se/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: PPP line sharing
Björn Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030308 20:32]: > I recently got a lodger who wish to share my modem ISP > connection. Since I pay per minute I wish to do the following: > > a) Have my Gentoo box act as a gateway to the net for his Windows >box. (This I can handle myself, I guess). > > b) Track our usage, so that we can pay a fair amount of the bill. >Maybe have him use PPP-over-ethernet, then subtract his >connection time from mine. (I don't pay any startup fee for >each connection, which should simplify things). > > How do you people suggest I go about this? (Mainly (b)) Is there really noone here that has done anything like this? -- Björn K. H. "Schwa" -><- Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home page ---> http://hem.fyristorg.com/bkhl/ Blog ---> http://bkhl.livejournal.com/ Elektrubadur demo ---> http://hem.fyristorg.com/bkhl/elektrubadur/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] PPP line sharing
I recently got a lodger who wish to share my modem ISP connection. Since I pay per minute I wish to do the following: a) Have my Gentoo box act as a gateway to the net for his Windows box. (This I can handle myself, I guess). b) Track our usage, so that we can pay a fair amount of the bill. Maybe have him use PPP-over-ethernet, then subtract his connection time from mine. (I don't pay any startup fee for each connection, which should simplify things). How do you people suggest I go about this? (Mainly (b)) -- Björn K. H. "Schwa" -><- Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home page ---> http://hem.fyristorg.com/bkhl/ Blog ---> http://bkhl.livejournal.com/ Elektrubadur demo ---> http://hem.fyristorg.com/bkhl/elektrubadur/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: text mode email program
Louis C. Candell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030308 12:39]: > Mutt is a *great* mail client and is pretty much good to go > from the moment you emerge it from portage. You can find > *great* ready made muttrc files out on the net, or I can > provide you with a nice muttrc (as I'm sure other mutt users > would if you asked) if you like. I'm not saying that you _have_ to tweak Mutt in order to get it to work. I guess I myself would prefer "default"-Mutt over Pine. The bad part is that in order for Mutt to work as a high-volume mailer, you need to use procmail, which has the suckingest syntax I ever saw in a rc-file. I know there are some replacements for procmail, such as maildrop, but they somehow all seem to inherit the syntax stupidity from procmail. (On a side note, I am thinking of making a Ruby module that would make it easy to roll your own procmail replacement, with rules embedded. With a good example file, this might make a newbie-friendly replacement for procmail, which would also encourage people to start learn programming.) -- Björn K. H. "Schwa" -><- Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home page ---> http://hem.fyristorg.com/bkhl/ Blog ---> http://bkhl.livejournal.com/ Elektrubadur demo ---> http://hem.fyristorg.com/bkhl/elektrubadur/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: text mode email program
Mike Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [20030308 08:21]: > I hear good things of mutt, but never used it myself. There is > something based on/around emacs I believe (gnus ?) But my > personal fave is pine. Mutt is really good (I'm using it right now (or rather I'm using Vim in Mutt right now)). On the other hand it has a quite large learning curve. You really have to get into heavy conf-file editing to unleash its full power. This is by the way the only one of these three that handles PGP in an RFC-compliant way. Pine works and has simple configuration, and a simple build-in editor (pico), but has some misfeatures, such as non(but almost)-standard mailboxes and not being free software. Some people might also like the build-in newsreader. Gnus is a story by itself. It's really a newsreader, that can read mail by some tweaking. I guess the harm is already done if you're using emacs, though. (But you can of course use emacs with both Pine and Mutt, if you want to). -- Björn K. H. "Schwa" -><- Lindström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home page ---> http://hem.fyristorg.com/bkhl/ Blog ---> http://bkhl.livejournal.com/ Elektrubadur demo ---> http://hem.fyristorg.com/bkhl/elektrubadur/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
