Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update all installed packages - emerge -uDpv world (don't work)
Hi Robert, Am Dienstag, 5. August 2003 21:56 schrieb Robert Kruus: But how often would you want to update all the packages on your system? Look at the output of emerge --depclean -p to see how many packages are installed. The emerge --deep -upv takes care of most those files not listed in the world file but needed by installed packages. The emerge -e can be used to update all the dependencies of a given package if you want to do that. And finally, the emerge -upv (qpkg -I -nc) takes care of all the installed packages. It really just depends how much time you want to spend with your computer recompiling things that aren't broken/up to date.. I get it now! The description of depclean was the information I needed. The worldfile are only contain the packages are explizit installed. But nevertheless, their should be an option to scan the world file recursive. e.g. There is package called A which have a critical bug and is not listed in the world file. Moreover it doesn't belongs to a package in the world file. This package will never be updated unless you do it explicitly. If I'am wrong please correct me! /CrPy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: update all installed packages - emerge -uDpv world (don't work)
Hi, Am Dienstag, 5. August 2003 17:31 schrieb Robert Kruus: It is rumored that CrPy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi ml, Am Montag, 4. August 2003 12:51 schrieb CrPy: Hi, there are a concern, I like to have cleared and dicussed. 1. Why does emerge -upv $(qpkg -I -nc) != emerge -uDpv world? The first try to update all packages. All installed package are updated. The second try to update all packages in world 'deep'. But the irst and the second are not the same. World 'deep' is less than $(qpkg -I -nc). Where is my mistake, or is it a bug? BTW regenworld don't change anything /CrPy Are there nobody interessed in? Or what ... ?!? Maybe I do not understand what world mean. But as far as I can see not all installed packages are in world. That's right, the system packages are not included in world. They would however be included in the qpkg -I command. IFAIK, dependencies for emerged packages also do not necessarily end up in the world file (i.e. if you and install of gentoo then do emerge gnome ...), but I'm not sure about that, though they should get caught with the -D option. Thanks of reply :) OK. Thats true. But I think it is a bug. Because all the packages that are not updated by emerge -uDpv world, are in the list of emerge -e world. Thats strange isn't it? It would be fine if same guys of there, would try if the output of emerge -upv $(qpkg -I -nc) is different output than emerge -uDpv world. If so, take a look if these package are in the output of emerge -e world. So if there is a different between emerge -upv $(qpkg -I -nc) and emerge -uDpv world and the package are in emerge -e world, then it should be a bug in the update mechanism of portage. Or I'am wrong? /CrPy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: update all installed packages - emerge -uDpv world (don't work)
Hi ml, Am Montag, 4. August 2003 12:51 schrieb CrPy: Hi, there are a concern, I like to have cleared and dicussed. 1. Why does emerge -upv $(qpkg -I -nc) != emerge -uDpv world? The first try to update all packages. All installed package are updated. The second try to update all packages in world 'deep'. But the irst and the second are not the same. World 'deep' is less than $(qpkg -I -nc). Where is my mistake, or is it a bug? BTW regenworld don't change anything /CrPy Are there nobody interessed in? Or what ... ?!? Maybe I do not understand what world mean. But as far as I can see not all installed packages are in world. /CrPy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] update all installed packages - emerge -uDpv world (don't work)
Hi, there are a concern, I like to have cleared and dicussed. 1. Why does emerge -upv $(qpkg -I -nc) != emerge -uDpv world? The first try to update all packages. All installed package are updated. The second try to update all packages in world 'deep'. But the irst and the second are not the same. World 'deep' is less than $(qpkg -I -nc). Where is my mistake, or is it a bug? BTW regenworld don't change anything /CrPy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Good NFS for laptop?
Hi donnie, Am Donnerstag, 31. Juli 2003 08:23 schrieb donnie berkholz: [...] As it turns out, rsync is quite a useful tool for this, although it's obviously not a filesystem. In my ~/.bashrc: alias home-up=rsync -avz -e ssh --exclude downloads/ ~/ master:~/ alias home-down=rsync -avz -e ssh --delete --exclude downloads/ --exclude ogg/ music/ master:~/ ~/ I type 'home-down' when I'm taking my laptop away, and 'home-up' when I bring it back to sync with other things. I don't care to have a bunch of stuff cluttering up my laptop so I exclude a few directories when downloading. did you know unison? You should take a look! /CrPy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems connecting to internet
Hi ml, cat /etc/resolve.conf nameserver 66.114.79.40 Looks good. Maybe use a second one. Ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:90:27:BB:34:3E inet addr:192.168.0.102 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::290:27ff:febb:343e/10 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:16 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 RX bytes:436 (436.0 b) TX bytes:1093 (1.0 Kb) Interrupt:11 Base address:0x5000 loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) OK. Your Net-Device is up and configured. Route -n --- Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG1 0 0 eth0 The routes are OK as well. = take a look at your router and try to ping a IP-address e.g. your nameserver. Is it possible with other maschiens to use the router? /CrPy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems connecting to internet
Hi ml, Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 10:42 schrieb Michael Schreckenbauer: Hello, Am Mittwoch, 23. Juli 2003 09:30 schrieb CrPy: Hi ml, cat /etc/resolve.conf nameserver 66.114.79.40 Looks good. Maybe use a second one. Sorry for jumping in, but shouldn't this one be /etc/resolv.conf (without the 'e')? Yes, of course. I haven't seen it. I don't look at at file names. But pinging with IP's should work, if this was the problem, what it is probably. /CrPy Michael -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list /CrPy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Starting Zope via xinetd
Hi
Am Montag, 14. Juli 2003 18:14 schrieb Thorsten Kampe:
Hi,
I want to start Zope on my one computer via xinetd. This is obviously
not as trivial as [1] as the startup scripts /etc/init.d/zope-2_6_1
and /etc/conf.d/zope-2_6_1 are rather long and complicated.
Does anyone know how to achieve this?
Thorsten
[1] service zope
{
type= UNLISTED
port= 8080
socket_type = stream
protocol= tcp
wait= no
user= zope
server = python z2.py
Where shoud python search? Try to use the full path to $ZOPE_HOME
server_args = whatever
disable = no
}
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Re: [gentoo-user] [DEBATE] Gentoo on laptops
Hi ng, Am Freitag, 11. Juli 2003 14:36 schrieb MAL: ... ext3 can also be set to commit the journal less frequently, (30 mins instead of 5 mins). To be honest though, unless you want the hard drive to sit in power saving mode all the time, the small write required to write a journal every 5 minutes will use almost no power. That is afaik not correct. The min should be seconds and e.g. noflushd doesn't work with journaling filesystems. It is right that you can change the commit frequency (afaik since 2.4.20), but this don't really solve the problem, with noflushd. I hope this helps. If you like to use noflushd you should you ext2, which is rock solid, but don't have journaling support. /CyPy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] File Sharing between Linuxes
Hi ng, I like shfs, which is secure as well. You only need a sshd runningon the box you like to mount. If you only like to copy a file I would use scp. = ssh + sshd is all you need. /CrPy Am Dienstag, 1. Juli 2003 18:18 schrieb Paulo Jorge de Oliveira Cantante de Matos: Hi all, I have two computers running gentoo and they are connected through network cards. How can I share files between them? Best regards, Paulo J. Matos -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables error?
Hi, ip_conntrack_tftp.o != ip_conntrack_ftp.o You need to activate the module in your kernel config. /CrPy Am Samstag, 21. Juni 2003 02:09 schrieb Jorge Almeida: On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, Norbert Kamenicky wrote: Jorge Almeida wrote: unable to load module ip_conntrack_ftp ip_nat_ftp: error registering helper for port 21 Can somebody tell me what this means? I'm using kernel 2.4.21 vanilla. Let's have look to /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter if you have these modules ... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list localhost root # ls /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter arp_tables.o arptable_filter.o ip_conntrack_amanda.o ip_conntrack_irc.o ip_conntrack_tftp.o ip_nat_amanda.o ip_nat_ftp.o ip_nat_irc.o ip_nat_snmp_basic.o ip_nat_tftp.o ip_queue.o ip_tables.o ipt_DSCP.o ipt_ECN.o ipt_LOG.o ipt_MARK.o ipt_MASQUERADE.o ipt_MIRROR.o ipt_REDIRECT.o ipt_REJECT.o ipt_TCPMSS.o ipt_TOS.o ipt_ULOG.o ipt_ah.o ipt_conntrack.o ipt_dscp.o ipt_ecn.o ipt_esp.o ipt_helper.o ipt_length.o ipt_limit.o ipt_mac.o ipt_mark.o ipt_multiport.o ipt_owner.o ipt_pkttype.o ipt_state.o ipt_tcpmss.o ipt_tos.o ipt_ttl.o ipt_unclean.o iptable_filter.o iptable_mangle.o iptable_nat.o -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables error?
Hi Jorge, there is no Problem, because you have it in your Kernel and not as Module. This means that shorewall fails to load it as module. You have to do one of this: 1. live with the error message. 2. configure it as module (kernel) 3. change the shorewall skript I would prefer to make it as module, to have a minimalistic kernel. /CrPy Am Samstag, 21. Juni 2003 11:45 schrieb Jorge Almeida: On Sat, 21 Jun 2003, CrPy wrote: Hi, ip_conntrack_tftp.o != ip_conntrack_ftp.o You need to activate the module in your kernel config. /CrPy Well, it seems that it should be there! Maybe some option of uninformative name is missing ... localhost root # ls /lib/modules/2.4.21/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter|grep ftp ip_conntrack_tftp.o ip_nat_ftp.o ip_nat_tftp.o localhost root # cat /usr/src/linux/.config|grep CONN CONFIG_IP_NF_CONNTRACK=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_CONNTRACK=m localhost root # cat /usr/src/linux/.config|grep FTP CONFIG_IP_NF_FTP=y CONFIG_IP_NF_TFTP=m CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_FTP=m CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_TFTP=m localhost root # ls -l /usr/src total 26844 (...) lrwxr-xr-x1 root root 12 Jun 20 21:50 linux - linux-2.4.21 (...) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: extend a running shell command
Hi ng, first of all thanks for the discussion. I'm think that there is no build-in function in bash, now. I thougth there could be an key-combination to handle that, like the ctrlz (of course you do not need alt). Moreover I think this could really be a security issue. The trick with the shell script could work of course, but it is not so nifty I thougth it would be. ;-) To extend a running command, we have found some solutions that are working I think. But to edit an entered command line is tricky and not trivial. The only solution I see is to extend the shell functionallity. Maybe there is an other shell that have this bug/feature, but don't know one. THX /CrPy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iputils
Am Mittwoch, 18. Juni 2003 23:34 schrieb yLothar: * DATA mercoledì 18 giugno 2003 * ORA 23:06 [] Finne Boonen [] #USE=acpiacpi4linux docevogb [] Finne Boonen [] gnomedb mozacces mozcalendar mozinterfacecompose [] Finne Boonen [] moznocompose moznoirc moznomail moznoxft mozp3p [] Finne Boonen [] mozsvg mozxmlterm nas vim-with-x -cups -kde [] Finne Boonen [] [] Finne Boonen [] to [] Finne Boonen [] [] Finne Boonen [] USE = gnome moznocompose moznomail [] Finne Boonen [] [] Finne Boonen [] but don't really know wich one did the trick :( I guess it's nas... No it is doc. try USE=-doc emerge -u iputils /CrPy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] extend a running shell command
Hi ng, I'm using linux for many years, but there is a concern I have never solved. Assuming, I have a command running in my nice bash shell and I do not know, how long it will run. Now, I like to append an additional command , which starts running after the first command has finished. How can I do this? Or is it possible to do this at all? - After all it is Open Source ;-) Here us an simplified example of what I want to do: # sleep 100h How long will it run? OK, I know it. But now, I like to halt my maschine after the command has finished. And actually what I really want to have is this: # sleep 100h; halt Can I somehow extend the command line, after sleep is already running? THX /CrPy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: extend a running shell command
Hi ng, sorry, but I think you don't get the problem. Type sleep 100h Enter in your shell. And now don't kill it or stop it. Now imagine that you actually forgot what you really wanted: To halt the machine after the program (that already runs and may be it will need to run for some hours because it is a compile process or similar). And imagine that you don't want to sit all the time behind your computer and wait until the program finishes to be able to halt the computer. So, what I want is, to append to the aready running command line a new command without stopping the old (because then it would have to start it from the beginning). I think, it would be ok to suspend the running program temporarily and to resume it after a short time where I append the additional command to it. After all it should look like i never executed sleep 100h but sleep 100h; halt One solution I have is to suspend the command with ctrlaltz and type fg; halt But what if I have a longer queue of commands and I like to edit the command line. e.g. make clean make dep make bzImage make module make modules_install And now I see that I have a typo in the line (the make module - make modules). How can I change the entered command line while excuting this command line? Sorry, it was not easy for me to explain it in a way that somebody else could understand it. Maybe it is more clear now. THX /CrPy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
