Re: [gentoo-user] Can't reach directory of Apache 2.0.47

2003-10-04 Thread Terry Churchill
My pet monkey insists that on Oct 04 2003 at 10:39AM
enrico [EMAIL PROTECTED] warbled:

 I'm new to this list and hope someone can help me to solve this problem:
 
 I'm trying to configure Apache (version 2.0.47) on my machine, but I 
 cannot reach the folder prova (which means test in italian), 
 containing some .png's, from the internet.
 
 Either the folder prova and files I put in have 777 permissions.
 
 My machine (where Apache is installed) is connected to the internet by
 modem, using PPPOE.

SNIP

What do apache's error logs say? I've not got apache on this box, but I
suspect you'll find them in /var/log/apache

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] gentoo vs. the FHS

2003-09-25 Thread Terry Churchill
My pet monkey insists that on Sep 25 2003 at 04:09PM
Stephen Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] warbled:

 they arent letting others suggest standards? 

Erm, yes they are:

http://bugs.freestandards.org/

I for one support the FHS, and certainly don't support proposals to make it
'Windows' like.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up ../distfiles from make.conf

2003-09-23 Thread Terry Churchill
My pet monkey insists that on Sep 23 2003 at 01:36PM
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 But if I intend to keep a local Gentoo mirror in my little network? (I *do*
 have a PC with a large harddisk. Well, even two, actually. ;-)
 
 Then I may need to keep the distfiles on my Gentoo Gateway server, but I
 could use and throw away the distfiles on my 'Client' PCs. (*If* the client
 PCs could be told to throw them away, that is.)

Simply mount /var/portage/distfiles/ via nfs on the clients. There's no need
to throw any distfiles away then.

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Re: [gentoo-user] bittorrent

2003-09-23 Thread Terry Churchill
My pet monkey insists that on Sep 23 2003 at 01:57PM
Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] warbled:

 This is worse than downloading a single mirror. If every body did that the 
 stress on the mirrors would be much worse than it is already. The good thing 
 about bittorrent is that clients would get better speeds than they are 
 currently with only a tiny amount of extra stress put on the mirrors. 
 Depending on how nice clients are on average, it could actually lessen the 
 stress on the mirrors while still increasing overall bandwidth of downloads.

TBH I don't see what bittorrent has got overly a properly configured
make.conf. I used mirrorselect way back when I originally installed gentoo 
have never had less than around 250Kb from the mirrors.

Sure, the mirrors need a lot of bandwidth, but I'm sure they understand that
when setting them up.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cleaning up ../distfiles from make.conf

2003-09-23 Thread Terry Churchill
My pet monkey insists that on Sep 23 2003 at 02:06PM
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 Or, I share the single ../distfiles directory between all 13 computers,
 with all potential concurrency problems that would bring in to the soup.
 (Oh, what a nightmare that may become. ;-)

How would this be a nightmare? It's exactly what I do here. You are only
sharing distfiles, not build locations or anything where having more than one
machine accessing it at a time would cause a problem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] bittorrent

2003-09-23 Thread Terry Churchill
My pet monkey insists that on Sep 23 2003 at 02:48PM
Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] warbled:

 Similarly, I get about 600Kb. But the point is scalability; what happens when 
 there's 10 times as many users as there are now? Any system administrator 
 will tell you that the issue of scalability is best handled proactively.

Absoloutely, but I don't agree that bittorrent is the way to go.

But - it should be an option for those who do want to use it, and are willing
to open the required ports on firewalls, etc. However, I suspect that you'll
see users running it long enough to download whichever files they are
interested in  then stopping it. Until there is a way around this I don't see
it as an answer.

I'd actually like to see public web-cache like machines that interface
directly with the gentoo mirrors  hold the most requested files. I don't see
that as a longterm solution though.
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[gentoo-user] Gnome 2.4

2003-09-15 Thread Terry Churchill
Hi,

I emerged gnome 2.4 overnight with:

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge gnome

I had to manually unmerge a few packages that were blocking, but it
seemed to go OK  I'm running it now.

How to I fix this?

atuin root # emerge -UpD world
 --upgradeonly implies --update... adding --update to options.
 
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
Calculating world dependencies /
!!! all ebuilds that could satisfy =x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r3 have been masked.!!!
(dependency required by x11-libs/gtk+-2.2.4-r1 [ebuild])
 
!!! Problem with ebuild gnome-base/gconf-2.2.1
!!! Possibly a DEPEND/*DEPEND problem.
 
!!! Depgraph creation failed.

I'm a bit new to portage, but I guess I need to unmask some packages,
but I can't find xfree-4.3.0-r3 in package.mask...

TIA
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Re: [gentoo-user] post emerge config changes

2003-09-15 Thread Terry Churchill
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 08:23, bob bob wrote:

 Surely there is a better way to update shit.. possibly some sort of script 
 that compares the two files and only shows what is different between the 
 two.. that way we can make faster easier changes/decisions..

That's exactly what etc-update does. I used it last night to update 72
config files. Easy as pie.

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Re: [gentoo-user] post emerge config changes

2003-09-15 Thread Terry Churchill
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 09:03, Joshua Banks wrote:
 Hey Terry,
 
 Which option do you usually choose?
 -1
 -3
 -5

I think it was -1, whichever one overwrites the current one with the new
one. I scan the list first to make sure there's none that I do want to
keep first though.

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome 2.4

2003-09-15 Thread Terry Churchill
On Mon, 2003-09-15 at 09:22, Jason Stubbs wrote:

 I would suggest not using -U at all - use -u instead. If your running ~x86 
 then things rarely get downgraded. If your not, it's better to copy the ~x86 
 packages you want to your overlay directory and change the ~x86 to x86 there.

Thanks, that makes sense. Whilst on this subject, is it safe to upgrade
to ~x86, or is this better done during the initial installation?

 The problem is in x11-libs/gtk+-2.2.4-r1. Look at the following:
 
 # Need this specific xfree version to get bugfree xinput support (#20407)
 RDEPEND==x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r3
 
 I had a quick look at the bug and it does indeed have to do with xinput. It 
 would seem that this is a mistake and it should read:
 
 RDEPEND==x11-base/xfree-4.3.0

Yep, found that. Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge iproute errors

2003-09-13 Thread Terry Churchill
Hi,

On Sat, 2003-09-13 at 01:27, Greg Donald wrote:
 I get errors when trying to emerge iproute:

See:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28241

basically ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge iproute

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] searching 'rsync' with emerge

2003-09-12 Thread Terry Churchill
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 00:12, Christian Küsters wrote:

 when I search ports in the portage tree containing the word 'rsync' using
 #emerge -s rsync
 I get a couple of results, but when I try to do the same with search on 
 descriptions using
 #emerge -S rsync 
 it starts to sync against a rsync server. Is it a bug or a feature ? :-)

I'd call that a bug, and I've reported it as such:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28498

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u system going haywire...

2003-09-12 Thread Terry Churchill
Hi,

On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 05:18, HvR wrote:
 i use one emailer for all my emails. at work people will send me html
 emails so it is nice to send html back. so my default setting is use
 html and yes i can turn it off (as you can see here) but to much trouble
 to do for each email. anyway evo sends the email both as html and as
 text so if you can see text only it will work. yes i know a waste of
 bandwith but nothing compared to sending a word document which only
 contains text...

I use Evolution at work too, in an environment dominated by Exchange 
Outlook. People send me html mails, but I don't see the need to respond
in the same format. All you are doing is exasperating the issue - html
mail is just plain *bad*

However, I don't want to start a flamewar here, but you should note that
sending anything other than plain text to a mailing list in consider bad
'netiquette'.

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -u system going haywire...

2003-09-11 Thread Terry Churchill
Hi,

On Thu, 2003-09-11 at 03:18, Collins Richey wrote:

 Yes, html mail is an abomination.  Many people use text-only, non-gui
 email handlers.  If evolution can't suppress html mail, then it's time
 to find a new mailer!

Evolution can be configured not to send HTML email, I know - I'm using
it.

AFAICS there is *never* a need to send HTML mails, just turn it off.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Remove TLS from Qmail

2003-09-11 Thread Terry Churchill
My pet monkey insists that on Sep 11 2003 at 03:01PM
Gentoo LB [EMAIL PROTECTED] warbled:

 So after figuring that i probably dont need TLS, i did not intentionally
 instal it, i dont know how to configure it and i dont know how to create a
 certificate, i would just like to disable/remove TLS so that i dont have
 these problems with sf.net or any other mail that may be trying to get to
 me.
 Note: i have never had an instance where i didnt receive mail that was sent
 to me .. at least not to my knowledge ..
 
 thanks for the help of anyone willing to help configure or disbale this TLS
 .. thanks ..

I don't use qmail, but I suspect USE=-ssl emerge qmail may help...

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RE: [gentoo-user] Default file attributes

2003-09-10 Thread Terry Churchill
Hi,

On Wed, 2003-09-10 at 06:23, Jeffrey Smelser wrote:

 System wide is in /etc/profile.. I need a specific user to be different.. 

Add the command to the users ~/.bashrc

Then add:

source ~/.bashrc

to ~/.bash_profile

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] RE: A problem with sound card

2003-09-09 Thread Terry Churchill
My pet monkey insists that on Sep 09 2003 at 02:44PM
gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] warbled:

 On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 09:27, Nicholas Potter wrote:
  I have the same card on a laptop (i810), and it seems to be loaded in the
  kernel, but I will be damned if I can get the sound to work at all.  The
  driver is compiled into the kernel, and dmesg gives that it is loading
  properly, but I can't get any sound.
 
 it sounds like a terrible solution, but here it is: go out and buy
 another sound card.  they're like $20 these days (for an ok one) and the
 time and energy i poured into getting mine to work (it never did) was
 just not worth it.

I suspect that's quite difficult when it comes to a laptop ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome install

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Churchill
My pet monkey insists that on Aug 13 2003 at 10:01PM
Chris I [EMAIL PROTECTED] warbled:

 That is the correct method.

Thanks.

 One thing you may wish to do is change the xmms ebuild, or emerge it 
 manually. IIRC, some part of gnome depended on xmms, which (if you have 
 the gnome USE flag set, which you probably do) wanted to pull in alot 
 of older gnome 1.4 bits.

Yeah, I suspect it may have been xmms merging control-center-1.4.x that broke
my previous install.

Thanks for your help.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome install

2003-08-14 Thread Terry Churchill
My pet monkey insists that on Aug 13 2003 at 10:01PM
Chris I [EMAIL PROTECTED] warbled:

 One thing you may wish to do is change the xmms ebuild, or emerge it 
 manually. IIRC, some part of gnome depended on xmms, which (if you have 
 the gnome USE flag set, which you probably do) wanted to pull in alot 
 of older gnome 1.4 bits.

Sorry if I sound a bit thick, but I've worked out that:

USE=-gnome emerge xmms

Would emerge it without the older gnome stuff. Should I just set -gnome in
make.conf to ensure other packages don't pull in older stuff? What do I stand
to lose if I do that?

TIA
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