Re: [gentoo-user] 25: Installation Complete???????'s
Thanks for all the info Jason. JBanks --- Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 05 September 2003 22:07, Joshua Banks wrote: > > Awesome. No all I have to do is get KDE and Mozilla installed so I can > > configure my dialup connection to get out to the net and update... > > > > I hope they have an FAQ for that. I did a stage 3 GRP install..my friend > > just burnt these cd's last friday so hopefully my poor dialup connection > > isn't going to need to download to much stuff. > > Can't help you with using GRP - I did a stage 1 over a modem! - but for > dial-up I'd suggest editing /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0 and then running "etc-update > add net.ppp0 default". > > You can configure it for dial-on-demand so that you don't have to initiate the > connection manually every time. You may find, however, that the connection > will be started for no apparent reason. If your not confident in tracking > down the reason and preventing it, kppp might be the way to go... > > Jason > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 25: Installation Complete???????'s
On Friday 05 September 2003 22:37, Ernie Schroder wrote: > On Friday 05 September 2003 09:18 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > > Can't help you with using GRP - I did a stage 1 over a modem! > > Wow! How long did that take? Downloading took nowhere near as long as it did to compile it all. About 48hrs downloading (including kde) and about double that to compile. 'tis alright though, I've got frequent access to a 100mb/s connection now. ;-) > - but > > > for dial-up I'd suggest editing /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0 and then > > running "etc-update add net.ppp0 default". > > isn't that "rc-update add net.ppp0 default" ?? Yeah, rc-update is correct right. Starting to get a little bit tired - been a long day. Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 25: Installation Complete???????'s
On Friday 05 September 2003 09:18 am, Jason Stubbs wrote: > On Friday 05 September 2003 22:07, Joshua Banks wrote: > > Awesome. No all I have to do is get KDE and Mozilla installed so > > I can configure my dialup connection to get out to the net and > > update... > > > > I hope they have an FAQ for that. I did a stage 3 GRP install..my > > friend just burnt these cd's last friday so hopefully my poor > > dialup connection isn't going to need to download to much stuff. > > Can't help you with using GRP - I did a stage 1 over a modem! Wow! How long did that take? - but > for dial-up I'd suggest editing /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0 and then > running "etc-update add net.ppp0 default". isn't that "rc-update add net.ppp0 default" ?? > You can configure it for dial-on-demand so that you don't have to > initiate the connection manually every time. You may find, however, > that the connection will be started for no apparent reason. If your > not confident in tracking down the reason and preventing it, kppp > might be the way to go... > > Jason > > -- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Regards, Ernie 100% Microsoft and Intel free -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 25: Installation Complete???????'s
On Friday 05 September 2003 22:07, Joshua Banks wrote: > Awesome. No all I have to do is get KDE and Mozilla installed so I can > configure my dialup connection to get out to the net and update... > > I hope they have an FAQ for that. I did a stage 3 GRP install..my friend > just burnt these cd's last friday so hopefully my poor dialup connection > isn't going to need to download to much stuff. Can't help you with using GRP - I did a stage 1 over a modem! - but for dial-up I'd suggest editing /etc/conf.d/net.ppp0 and then running "etc-update add net.ppp0 default". You can configure it for dial-on-demand so that you don't have to initiate the connection manually every time. You may find, however, that the connection will be started for no apparent reason. If your not confident in tracking down the reason and preventing it, kppp might be the way to go... Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 25: Installation Complete???????'s
Cool. Thanks Jason.. I didn't realize that it needed the cd still to shut everything down. After it shut down I was able to eject the cd and it booted off the HD and I'm at my login prompt now.. Awesome. No all I have to do is get KDE and Mozilla installed so I can configure my dialup connection to get out to the net and update... I hope they have an FAQ for that. I did a stage 3 GRP install..my friend just burnt these cd's last friday so hopefully my poor dialup connection isn't going to need to download to much stuff. Any suggestions helpful for the noob... Appreciate everyones time. Thanks, JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 25: Installation Complete???????'s
ok lets... do these things one by one ... 1) were u using more then one console,that is other then that fancy screen by using Alt-f2,Alt-f3 and Alt-f4, if not fine, if yes then make sure u are not currenty working in that mounted folder, just typing "exit" in all console once should do the trick. 2) cd to root , type # cd / 3) do these steps in sequence ,one by one : # umount /mnt/gentoo/boot # umount /mnt/gentoo/proc # umount /mnt/gentoo it should be able to do the trick, one more thing..once u do the exit as stated in step one u should be able to use the cd-rom,but u won't be able to eject it. tell me if it doesn't work :-) RJ From: Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 25: Installation Complete???'s Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:50:19 +0900 On Friday 05 September 2003 21:31, Joshua Banks wrote: > # umount /mnt/gentoo > unmount: /mnt/gentoo: device is busy. So I wait for 10 minutes. Come back > and get the same thing, over and over. Perhaps you had something still mounted under /mnt/gentoo? If you had of typed "mount" at the prompt it would have shown you all your mounts. The only possibility is if you were in fact cd'd into /mnt/gentoo. There's no daemons, etc. running during install so the only possibilities are something your doing at the time or a mount. Perhaps your in the directory on another terminal? > The other strange thing is I cannot eject the dam CD. The eject button > doesn't frigging respond now. Why is the cd all of the sudden not > respondingAhhrggg. When Linux mounts a CD-ROM it locks the door on the cdrom. The only way to open it is to umount it first. The eject command will umount and then eject the cdrom if it's not in use. > # reboot > (Don't forget to remove the bootable CD) It means to eject and remove the CD between the time that the installation CD reboots and the time that your computer starts booting from your cdrom/fdd/hdd. Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list _ Hey there, NRIs! Send money home. http://server1.msn.co.in/msnleads/citibankrca/citibankrca2.asp?type=txt Use Citibank RCA -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 25: Installation Complete???????'s
Jason Stubbs wrote: On Friday 05 September 2003 21:31, Joshua Banks wrote: # umount /mnt/gentoo unmount: /mnt/gentoo: device is busy. So I wait for 10 minutes. Come back and get the same thing, over and over. Perhaps you had something still mounted under /mnt/gentoo? If you had of typed "mount" at the prompt it would have shown you all your mounts. The only possibility is if you were in fact cd'd into /mnt/gentoo. There's no daemons, etc. running during install so the only possibilities are something your doing at the time or a mount. Perhaps your in the directory on another terminal? Try running the following command: lsof |grep "/mnt/gentoo"| grep -v grep This should show you, which processes are still unsing /mnt/gentoo The other strange thing is I cannot eject the dam CD. The eject button doesn't frigging respond now. Why is the cd all of the sudden not respondingAhhrggg. When Linux mounts a CD-ROM it locks the door on the cdrom. The only way to open it is to umount it first. The eject command will umount and then eject the cdrom if it's not in use. # reboot (Don't forget to remove the bootable CD) It means to eject and remove the CD between the time that the installation CD reboots and the time that your computer starts booting from your cdrom/fdd/hdd. Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 25: Installation Complete???????'s
On Friday 05 September 2003 21:31, Joshua Banks wrote: > # umount /mnt/gentoo > unmount: /mnt/gentoo: device is busy. So I wait for 10 minutes. Come back > and get the same thing, over and over. Perhaps you had something still mounted under /mnt/gentoo? If you had of typed "mount" at the prompt it would have shown you all your mounts. The only possibility is if you were in fact cd'd into /mnt/gentoo. There's no daemons, etc. running during install so the only possibilities are something your doing at the time or a mount. Perhaps your in the directory on another terminal? > The other strange thing is I cannot eject the dam CD. The eject button > doesn't frigging respond now. Why is the cd all of the sudden not > respondingAhhrggg. When Linux mounts a CD-ROM it locks the door on the cdrom. The only way to open it is to umount it first. The eject command will umount and then eject the cdrom if it's not in use. > # reboot > (Don't forget to remove the bootable CD) It means to eject and remove the CD between the time that the installation CD reboots and the time that your computer starts booting from your cdrom/fdd/hdd. Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 25: Installation Complete???????'s
YaThanks for the usefull tips...appreciate it. Thanks, JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 25: Installation Complete???????'s
Yes, that made sense..appreciate it man. Man...I get right to the end and now its crapping out on me...WHY ME Okso now what the heck is going on. # etc-update This runs fine. Nothing to update. # exit This is fine.. (This exits the chrooted shell; you can also type ^D) # cd / was already there. # umount /mnt/gentoo/boot Worked fine.. # umount /mnt/gentoo/proc Worked fine... # umount /mnt/gentoo unmount: /mnt/gentoo: device is busy. So I wait for 10 minutes. Come back and get the same thing, over and over. What do I need to do here..? Any suggestions Shoot to Kill The other strange thing is I cannot eject the dam CD. The eject button doesn't frigging respond now. Why is the cd all of the sudden not respondingAhhrggg. Ok, so how do I recover from this...and what could be causing this? What do I need to do to recover and reboot. My hole experience with Linux in general has always been able to get to the very end and thats usually when things crap out...this has happened to me many times when I go with default install settings. # reboot (Don't forget to remove the bootable CD) How can I forget now. PaperClip time...cyber Mygiver AHHHrrr.Please help.insane laughter. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 25: Installation Complete???????'s
On Friday 05 September 2003 19:38, Joshua Banks wrote: > [quote]Warning: etc-update can provide you with a list of configuration > files that have newer versions at your disposal. Verify that none of the > configuration files have a big impact (such as /etc/fstab, /etc/make.conf, > /etc/rc.conf, ...). Merge the files that don't have such a big impact, > remove the updates of the others or view the diff and manually update the > configuration file. [/quote] etc-update is utility you should use when portage tells you that there are config files that need updating. When portage updates or installs something that would ordinarily overwrite a config file, portage will instead install the file to ._cfg. etc-update will scan your directories and tell you which of these files exist. It allows primitive merging however most people use it to get a list of what files (may) have changed and update what they have previously changed manually and then delete the ._cfg files.. Once that is done, etc-update can be used to replace any (remaining) configuration files with the default installed version. Hope that made sense! Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 25: Installation Complete???????'s
Joshua Banks wrote: Thanks again Peter. I will give a shot. But before I do just another question if you could be so helpful.. From the install guide 25>Installation Complete [quote]Warning: etc-update can provide you with a list of configuration files that have newer versions at your disposal. Verify that none of the configuration files have a big impact (such as /etc/fstab, /etc/make.conf, /etc/rc.conf, ...). Merge the files that don't have such a big impact, remove the updates of the others or view the diff and manually update the configuration file. [/quote] Must have missed this part in the docs ;-) Anyway I had no troubles with etc-update when I installed gentoo 1.4 on my notebook. But to be sure you should at least check /etc/fstab if it matches your partition layout. make.conf should be ok but you should check it also according to the docs to make sure that you won't have troubles installing ebuilds later. I'm also new to gentoo so I don't know if etc-update gives you warnings if it changes some of the config files. I don't understand the above what so ever :o Can anyone tell me what I actually need to do here in noobian terms :) [quote]Code listing 26.1: Rebooting the System # etc-update # exit (This exits the chrooted shell; you can also type ^D) # cd / # umount /mnt/gentoo/boot # umount /mnt/gentoo/proc # umount /mnt/gentoo # reboot (Don't forget to remove the bootable CD)[/quote] That parts pretty straight forward :wink: There shouldn't be any problems with this part :-) [quote]Note: After rebooting, it is a good idea to run the update-modules command to create the /etc/modules.conf file. Instead of modifying this file directly, you should generally make changes to the files in /etc/modules.d. [/quote] Uh.. Huh... huhhh... Again this is greek to me. I'm not sure what I need to do exactly. In modules.d and modules.autoload.d you'll find files describing which modules to load (and the alias names for them). You should get In my case I had only to add the NIC in order to get it loaded during boot. Maybe it would be a good idea the send a new post to this list to get the attention of the real pro's Cheers, Peter Thanks, :oops: __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] 25: Installation Complete???????'s
Thanks again Peter. I will give a shot. But before I do just another question if you could be so helpful.. >From the install guide 25>Installation Complete [quote]Warning: etc-update can provide you with a list of configuration files that have newer versions at your disposal. Verify that none of the configuration files have a big impact (such as /etc/fstab, /etc/make.conf, /etc/rc.conf, ...). Merge the files that don't have such a big impact, remove the updates of the others or view the diff and manually update the configuration file. [/quote] I don't understand the above what so ever :o Can anyone tell me what I actually need to do here in noobian terms :) [quote]Code listing 26.1: Rebooting the System # etc-update # exit (This exits the chrooted shell; you can also type ^D) # cd / # umount /mnt/gentoo/boot # umount /mnt/gentoo/proc # umount /mnt/gentoo # reboot (Don't forget to remove the bootable CD)[/quote] That parts pretty straight forward :wink: [quote]Note: After rebooting, it is a good idea to run the update-modules command to create the /etc/modules.conf file. Instead of modifying this file directly, you should generally make changes to the files in /etc/modules.d. [/quote] Uh.. Huh... huhhh... Again this is greek to me. I'm not sure what I need to do exactly. Thanks, :oops: __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
