Re: [gentoo-user] A beginner question about USE

2003-08-21 Thread Adam Scriven
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 10:20:01PM +0300, Scharf Yuval wrote:
> I think that in the last part of your e-mail you wrote something wrong.
> I found out (please correct me if I'm wrong) that emerge -pv 
> gives you the status of your USE words that the package cares about.

Yup, you're right, sorry about that.

Adam

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Re: [gentoo-user] A beginner question about USE

2003-08-21 Thread Scharf Yuval
Hello Adam,

I think that in the last part of your e-mail you wrote something wrong.
I found out (please correct me if I'm wrong) that emerge -pv 
gives you the status of your USE words that the package cares about.

Apparently this status is gathered in for different places.

Yuval Scharf


On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Adam Scriven wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 09:51:59PM +0300, Scharf Yuval wrote:
> > If I write USE="kde" in /etc/make.conf it means that if I emerge a package
> > with KDE optional KDE support the support should be installed.
>
> Correct.
>
> > If I don't add kde to USE it means that I'm indifferent to kde so I don't
> > need the optional support. Correct?
>
> No.
> Not having "kde" in your USE means you are accepting the defaults, whether that
> be ON or OFF.
>
> > But what does USE="-kde" means I found one sentence about it in the
> > documentation and I can't understand the difference between -kde and not
> > writing kde.
>
> Putting "-kde" means you are explicitly stating you DO NOT want KDE support,
> no matter what the default is.
>
> That is how Gentoo gets around people changing the make.defaults file, which
> is where these defaults are stored.
>
> > Similarly, If a package has `kde` in it, it has optional support and if
> >it doesn't have `kde` in it, it is indifferent to KDE. But what does
> > `-kde` in a package means.
> >
> >I use the term "kde in a package" to refer to the answer I get from
> > "emerge -pv "
>
> I'm not 100% sure about this, I believe it's the same thing as the USE flags,
> just for packages specifically and not for the entire system.
> So, you could want KDE generally, but NOT for a specific package, so when
> you emerge that specific package you "USE="-kde" emerge Package" first.
>
> I think.I'm pretty new to this Gentoo stuff myself, but I think I'm slowly
> getting the hang of it.
>
> Hope this helps(and I'm right!)
> Adam
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Re: [gentoo-user] A beginner question about USE

2003-08-21 Thread Adam Scriven
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 09:51:59PM +0300, Scharf Yuval wrote:
> If I write USE="kde" in /etc/make.conf it means that if I emerge a package
> with KDE optional KDE support the support should be installed.

Correct.

> If I don't add kde to USE it means that I'm indifferent to kde so I don't
> need the optional support. Correct?

No.
Not having "kde" in your USE means you are accepting the defaults, whether that
be ON or OFF.

> But what does USE="-kde" means I found one sentence about it in the
> documentation and I can't understand the difference between -kde and not
> writing kde.

Putting "-kde" means you are explicitly stating you DO NOT want KDE support,
no matter what the default is.

That is how Gentoo gets around people changing the make.defaults file, which
is where these defaults are stored.

> Similarly, If a package has `kde` in it, it has optional support and if
>  it doesn't have `kde` in it, it is indifferent to KDE. But what does
> `-kde` in a package means.
> 
> I use the term "kde in a package" to refer to the answer I get from
> "emerge -pv "

I'm not 100% sure about this, I believe it's the same thing as the USE flags,
just for packages specifically and not for the entire system.
So, you could want KDE generally, but NOT for a specific package, so when
you emerge that specific package you "USE="-kde" emerge Package" first.

I think.  I'm pretty new to this Gentoo stuff myself, but I think I'm slowly
getting the hang of it.

Hope this helps (and I'm right!)
Adam

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Re: [gentoo-user] A beginner question about USE

2003-08-21 Thread Scharf Yuval
Hello,

I apologize, I found the answers by myself.

Yuval Scharf


On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Scharf Yuval wrote:

> Hello,
>
> If I write USE="kde" in /etc/make.conf it means that if I emerge a package
> with KDE optional KDE support the support should be installed.
> If I don't add kde to USE it means that I'm indifferent to kde so I don't
> need the optional support. Correct?
> But what does USE="-kde" means I found one sentence about it in the
> documentation and I can't understand the difference between -kde and not
> writing kde.
>
> Similarly, If a package has `kde` in it, it has optional support and if
>  it doesn't have `kde` in it, it is indifferent to KDE. But what does
> `-kde` in a package means.
>
> I use the term "kde in a package" to refer to the answer I get from
> "emerge -pv "
>
> Thanks,
> Yuval Scharf
>
>
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[gentoo-user] A beginner question about USE

2003-08-21 Thread Scharf Yuval
Hello,

If I write USE="kde" in /etc/make.conf it means that if I emerge a package
with KDE optional KDE support the support should be installed.
If I don't add kde to USE it means that I'm indifferent to kde so I don't
need the optional support. Correct?
But what does USE="-kde" means I found one sentence about it in the
documentation and I can't understand the difference between -kde and not
writing kde.

Similarly, If a package has `kde` in it, it has optional support and if
 it doesn't have `kde` in it, it is indifferent to KDE. But what does
`-kde` in a package means.

I use the term "kde in a package" to refer to the answer I get from
"emerge -pv "

Thanks,
Yuval Scharf



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